AWWWW, she is so sweet Katie! THANK YOU!!
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AWWWW, she is so sweet Katie! THANK YOU!!
Just as well you posted some more pics of Anna, Katie. I'm feeling all boo hoo for myself and really needed a little inspiration. Who do you think she looks more like? I'm thinking maybe your DH? I didn't know that babies this young smiled! How's the b/f going?
Laney, congrats on discovering that you're having a boy. I didn't know they could see willies that early. Tee hee. How cute! Sooo in about two weeks you'll start feeling movement based on your previous babies. That's even more exciting.
Rozzie, I'd be afraid to buy anything in case of jinxing things too. I bought practically nothing for Hamish. Why don't you try buying something little like a bib and see how that makes you feel?
Tildy, for some reason I imagined Swedes to be all loving pacifists and was surprised to hear you say that they can also be racist. I always thought that they say not to have any alcohol in pregnancy here too but then once in a while a report will pop up to say that maybe one glass of red is actually better than none. I don't drink anyway so I don't pay attention but I am fanatical about eating loads of fruit and vegies and organic meat etc. Made me giggle to hear that you're still having the fibre issue. Heee.
Jo, Jo, where are you? Probably being worked off your feet in this Christmas rush? Just want to hear that you're doing OK.
TM, thinking of you and hoping that you're hanging in there.
Sue, morph scan this Friday! Soooo exciting. Remember to ask for a DVD of the scan.
Hi Paula, Diana, Megan, Helen and everyone else. I'm working this weekend (writing a tender submission, it's a team effort: me doing the writing and 4 other people doing the panicking about the deadline - go team!) but couldn't help popping in.
Hi all,
Tildy, the alcohol thing is not clear cut here I think... I don't think the official advice is not complete abstinence, just that there is no proven safe level of drinking, which is sort of similar I guess... The most recent thing I heard was a study found that women who drank low amounts of alcohol (1 or 2 per week) actually had better pregnancy outcomes than those who abstained!!! Confusing. Anyway I have a glass of wine every two or three weeks and there doesn't seem to be a stigma here about low levels of consumption.
Katie, Anna is such a cute little button, you look so at ease with each other, easy to say that from a pic when she's not crying I guess!!
Laney, I think I may be with you on the weak pelvic floor thing... I'm not leaking as such but do if I sneeze and sometimes when I stand up after using the toilet. We must be determined with our pelvic floor exercises!!
Helen, after a brief tryst 5 weeks ago I'm abstaining again... just don't feel like it and found it mildly uncomfortable last time. But I do feel a bit guilty, Dh is so wonderful and patient. I hope you get great cervix measurements and can go to town!!
Issy, congrats on the levels, they sound very encouraging and very different from your recent M/C experiences, hope you start feeling very nauseous very soon!
TM, I hope your M/C is finished and was fast and merciful... I've not been through one so can't offer any advice or imagine how painful it must be to say goodbye. Take care of yourself.
Sue, pretty sure you still haven't answered whether you will find out the sex and if you'll be letting the world know???
Hi to eveyone else.
The wedding thing was OK, except there were a couple of baby boys there, typical. I managed to avoid Alec's grandfather's girlfriend for most of the night, though she did manage to get one thing in which really upset me. She said 'we were so sorry to hear of... but now everything's good!!' Why do people think that because I'm pregnant again that makes everything better??!?!! I wouldn't go up to someone who lost a 5 year old child and say it's all good because they're pregnant or because they have other children... Even my mother, who's usually a very sensitive person and has rarely upset me, responded to news of my pregnancy by whipping out photos of my new niece as somehow I would have changed how I felt overnight. Anyway, I know it doesn't come from a bad place, just find it a bit insulting to the memories of our lost babies to imply their loss doesn't matter now we're having new children.
DH and I went to the library yesterday and borrowed a heap of books on caring for babies- it seemed like a good compromise between buying things and doing nothing LOL!! Also I gave a guy from work a lift home on Friday, and he goes 'I have to ask, are you pregnant?' I said yes and he offered me some baby clothes and things that he and his wife don't need anymore (they're having a girl in Feb but have way too much from their two kids). He did this the first time round as well, and I guess he asked if I were pregnant because of what happened last time... as it is very obvious I'm pregnant, I have a belly and am in maternity uniform! Anyway, buying some second hand clothes doesn't seem like too much of a statement/commitment so I'll do that :)
Big hugs to everyone and lots of babydust to our randy tryers!!!
Love Rozzie
Thank you Katie, she is just too cute and you just look too pleased with yourself!!! How lovely for us all to see you looking so content with a gorgeous bundle of joy in your arms. I'm with Lan, it is a real inspiration.
Lan, try not to feel Boo Hoo although working on a Sunday is enough to make anyone feel boo hoo! I had another detox bath today. They told me it gets worse before it gets better and they were right. YUCK! But I just kept thinking how lovely and pure I'll be for ttc in a few weeks. I'm not sure how the wine i've just put in the fridge factors into that equation though! DH and I were thinking xmas carols and wine down the beach tonight.
Tildy: great to hear from you. Sounds like you have a bit to do before now and Kebab's arrival. I know with Ethan I left everything till the last minute. And that was when I thought all pregnancies ended well!
Hi to everyone else. Updates please!!!
Paula
Rozzie: our posts crossed over. Im glad the party wasn't too bad. It seems like no matter where we go there will always be someone with something inappropriate to say. It sounds like your work mate at least has some tact. I can't believe your ticker is at week 24. FLYING!
OMG Katie, Anna is absolutely gorgeous - your pictures are beautiful. Though keep them coming. I expect to see Anna in a Christmas outfit soon... he he he
DD207 - How did you go at the party??? Hoping everything went well and that you felt OK there.
Paula - Your detox baths sounds interesting - never heard of them before. Is it meant to get all the bad toxins out???
Tildy - Well alcohol while pregnant they say not to do it at all, but most Ob says the occasional glass is OK. Very confusing sometimes, but again, I would only have a glass occasionally. I think I am working up to my next glass for my birthday in February.
Laney - what pregnancy does!!! I am also in need of working on the pelvic muscles. I also lose some urine when I sneeze and it is very frustrating. I have tried when urinating to stop half way and hold it, but it doesnt seem to be working. OK girls what other things can I do to strenthen those muscles!!!!
Lan - Need to check, where are you in your cycle. I wish sometimes that you were still charting, so I could see what was happening - I know thats selfish!!!!!
Rozzie - Yep DH and I want to know what we are having, if bubs allows us!!! I like to personalise things and when I rub my belly, I want to say its name. We are also not keeping it a secret, so everybody will know. So hopefully Friday, I will be able to tell you guys.
Well all, I had a worrying weekend, last week I could feel bubs quite a bit and then Friday to Sunday, didnt feel bubs hardly at all. I know I am early stages to feel movement, but the worrying about lack of movement has started already. Must admit, I am so glad I am seeing the Ob on Thursday and then having morphology scan on Friday - I really need to see bubs, it has been so long (since 13 weeks). Actually too long for my liking and I think I will tell the Ob that. I think that they treat everybody the same and my fears (I think) are greater than some others. Anyway I have felt bubs this morning, so I am a little happier.
Hoping everyone had a good weekend.
xxx Sue xxx
Sue, I'm glad bubba is moving for you this morning, you have made me want to voice my fears about movement! Girls I need some 'Don't be silly' inspiration! When I was pregnant with Cooper, I had movement from 14 weeks (Corey was from about 18 wks) being 2nd time around they all say you feel it earlier. Well I am now over 15wks and haven't felt a THING!! It is driving me insane, I now it is still early etc but I really thought being the 3rd that I would have felt something by now, it is starting to really play on my mind. I am wondering maybe I will make an appt with my GP next week if I still haven't felt anything just to hear the heartbeat again.
Helen, I'd go see the Dr just to reassure myself. Although Baby 3 is still very small and might've decided to migrate to the back of your uterus like Tildy's baby. Don't be naughty baby, come out and kick mummy some good ones!
Sue I think it's really lovely to know your baby and call him/her by name. One of my friends is expecting her first baby in March and when we talk about the baby, it's really nice to say his name. Have you got names picked out yet? Oh, I'm on CD11. I got into trouble with my homoeopath recently. Last time we TTC-ed until about CD15 then I broke out in rash, got stomach pains and started waking up at 3am every night so we stopped. Then I was explaining to my homoeopath about all the reasons why we can't TTC this month either and she told me that I'm just putting up obstacles to get pregnant and all my physcial symptons are me freaking out about TTC. It's true now that she's pointed it out. I'm more insane than I thought! But I'm giving it a good go this time.
Diana, glad you made it through the party OK and enjoyed the chance to dress up. I'll PM you.
Paula, how many detox baths are you going to have? At what interval? Does the water turn totally black? Did you do the Christmas carols and wine on the beach last night? Sounds terribly romantic... sure you're not TTC-ing ;-)
Rozzie, that woman is the most annoying 85yo I've ever heard of. They're supposed to be cute and warm and crocheting at that age, not running around sticking their foot into their mouth. Have you started reading the baby books yet? The only after pregnancy book I have is Baby Love and that's really easy to read. The stuff she talks about don't seem easy to do though. Like bathing the baby and breastfeeding. Tricky!
Wow, someone's sailing on the harbour. Jealousing!
Hugs to all.
Katie, Anna is soooo beautiful and you look blissfully happy.
Lan, gotta love that team work! Sorry you are feeling boo hoo. Hope today is a little better for you.
Laney, isnt it funny we are happy it is wee - no-one else would ever understand :D
Rozzie, I dont know how you stopped yourself from clobbering that woman. Sorry she upset you but unfortunately there are so many like her out there that do not understand us.
Sue, oh thank God bubs is moving around for you. It must have been very scary.
Helen, dont be silly !! Doesnt work does it? I am sure everything is fine but if you are concerned, call your OB. I am sure he will fit you in for a reassurance check.
Party went well, it was actually nice to dress up and go out. I sat near a girl 32 weeks pregnant. At first I couldn?t breathe but I settled in and really enjoyed myself.
Big hugs to all.
Hi ladies!!!
Yes, that woman is a very annoying 85yo... I'm pretty sure his grandfather knows she's annoying but after his wife passed a few years back it's good he has some company. She's really loud (with a peircing, cackling laugh) and opinionated too, and he's so lovely, I don't know how he puts up with her.
Lan, of course you shouldn't force yourself to TTC if you're not up to it but I also think that in our situation there will never be a perfect time to conceive or to be pregnant... sometimes you just have to give it a go and trust your body will know the right time. I read a bit of the baby books, I wanted baby love but couldn't find it, will have to reserve it.
Helen, I think that your bub is still a little small to worry, the placenta may be in a more cushioning position or your baby may like a certain position that was different to Cooper. So get checked out for peace of mind, but don't worry too much in the meantime!!
Sue, can't wait to find out the sex!! are you also going to tell us the name? Also try not to worry about bub's movement, easier said than done I know... my bub had a quiet weekend but is back at it again today (right in the bladder and cervix!) it's happened a couple of times too, I think it's normal.
Laney, don't think I've congratulated you yet on your little baby boy!!! Wonderful news.
Paula, these detox baths sound intriguing... how do they work?
How are you travelling Stickybaby?
I am so OVER work!!! I am soooo unproductive. I don't think my boss even cares either. I'm having 2 weeks off and he's having 4, and I said to him today that we should sit down and work out what I should do while he's away, seeing as I have a few meetings lined up and want to make sure we're on the same page... he said not to worry too much as he doesn't expect me to solve many issues while he's away... he's very considerate, I think he realises that work stress is not in my capacity at present!! He and other people in the office have heaps on so feel bad... but not for long hehehe. The Air Force has had more than its pound of flesh from me in the past few years so it can accommodate me for a little bit I figure.
Looking forward to some more sex announcements (baby wise I mean!!) from Sue and perhaps Helen.
Love Rozzie
Hi Ladies
Firstly DD: glad the party went well. Was thinking of you and you can feel relieved that you have overcome another milestone on the road to recovering from such a sad loss. Well done!
Sue: yay for bubs moving and I'm so excited now to find out the sex. it will help us all visualise your little one making his/her safe arrival into this world.
Helen: try not to worry too much re the movement. I never felt Ethan or Charlie until after 16 weeks and even then it was so slight that I wasn't really sure. I think from memory it was closer to 18 or 19 weeks when I felt really confident about movement with Ethan. With Charlie I had a couple of definite sessions with her wriggling around before she passed so that would have been around the same time. In short at 16 weeks 'don't be silly girlfriend', you have nothing to stress about!!
Rozzie: its so good to hear that your boss is being considerate of your situation and you have every right to put yourself first. Its not just you but bub as well so you deserve to have it a little easier than you might normally.
As for Lan, Sue and Rozzie and your Q's re the detox. I think the way they work is that they put this thing on your arm which sends negative (or positive I can't remember) ions into your body that attract the toxins. Then as your feet are so porous they have another thing in a foot bath which draws the ions out with the toxins attached. It takes 30 minutes and the water goes from clear to freakishly gross! As the toxins are released they react with the air and change shape, color etc so the therapist can tell you what your body is releasing. The first time I had a bit of everything, but this time it was mostly in relation to my reproductive system which of course I found very interesting.
You are not supposed to do it when pregnant so I thought I might do one more just before AF is due this month and then that's it before ttc. They suggest having it done about every 2 weeks to eliminate the continuous onslaught of toxins our body accumulates. I'm not sure if I would do that ongoing but the first few sessions are supposed to get most of the crap out and then its just maintenance.
Lan: re the romantic evening. We didn't end up going but had a bottle of wine (whoops about the detoxing) and a lovely dinner. Then I had a fight with my Mum and it kind of killed any frisky vibes we had going. DH was loving my Mum right about then!!
Paula -- that detox bath thing sounds interesting, and kinda gross! You guys have all these different therapies that you're doing that I've never heard of. I've been to the chiropractor today, that's about as far out as I've gotten! Sorry to here you and your mom had a dust; some moms can be good at ruining a person's day (or week or month in my case...).
I know what you mean about being over work, Rozzie. I have my "personal development" talk with my boss on Friday, and I have no idea what I'm going to say. You're supposed to talk about what you want to do in the coming year, what you want to work with, what you want to do better or learn etc. I'm feeling just kind of like "I barely belonged here to begin with, and I so don't give a crap." :P I think he might actually understand if I say that my vocational development hasn't exactly been on my mind, though. What do I plan on doing next year? Being on maternity leave! :P
DD - wow, good job about that party. It can't have been easy to be sitting near a girl would was 32 weeks. I wouldn't have faulted you if you hadn't been able to stay! When we had a good friend's wedding in June, we made sure I had a "way out" in case I felt the need to leave. The fact that it was a social party was bad enough -- I'm normally crowd-shy and after the miscarriage it escalated to actual severe panic-fear of other people -- but one of my best friends, 37 weeks pregnant at the time, was there as well. I eventually ended up using the way out (our non-drinking Buddhist friend who rode down with us said "Screw the overnight, it's time for Lori to go home," heh) because I just kept going away from the party to hide and cry. So anyway, what I'm saying is, I think it's nothing to sneeze at that you were able to enjoy yourself at the party!
Lan -- it's definitely right that there will never be a "perfect" time to TTC or be pregnant. I think your homeopath is right, that it's important that you give it all you've got now -- you've been working so hard to get here! I know it's going to be rough, but coming out on the other side of that roughness feels awesome -- I feel like I already have!
Helen -- I'll be happy to say "Don't be silly!" if you'll actually allow that. :D Of course, I don't actually think you ARE silly, as I know how the thinking process works and that it's easy to worry about anything. But that's why it's good that we all have each other -- we're super good at worrying ourselves about things we know are nothing to worry about. I agree with everyone else -- NOTHING wrong with going in to get it checked out to ease your mind, but I bet everything is just fine and that it's still too early for you to feel anything strong yet.
Sue -- yeah, I have also heard about that study that said 1-2 glasses of wine a week or something like that was shown to have a good effect on the pregnancy (was it a British study?). I don't drink much, and to be perfectly honest, when I do, it's intentionally to get a buzz, since I HATE the taste, so I'm not suffering from the total abstinence thing. But what I'm missing right now is Gl?gg -- it's a spiced, warm wine they drink here in Sweden during Christmas season. You put raisins and blanched almonds in it and drink it with ginger snap cookies. The most popular gl?gg brand puts out a special flavor every year, and this year it's blueberry! I thought, damn, it can't be THAT bad, as it's only 10% alcohol and you have a very small glass and it's even cooked up and boiled, for crying out loud, but darned if the midwife didn't say no no no! And it would be no fun hiding in a corner drinking a cup of gl?gg all by myself, as that's what I'd have to do in order to not have people go "OMG, you can't have that!"
Wonderful pictures, Katie! Anna is so beautiful (and so are you)!
Okay, I don't know if you guys will think it's weird if I share this with you, as you might not have the same morbid interest in catharsis as I do, but I just wrote a blog post about an article I found in the newspaper today regarding an incident with a pregnant woman and an idiot doctor. If you don't want to read about how very stupid doctors can be or read my swear-laden response, then please don't read it, but I thought you guys might be interested: The Pessimist's Cookbook: Boiling Point . I wish I could find out who the woman was and give her a big hug.
Hi Ladies,
I have a bunch of posts to catch up on. You ladies have been so busy over the past couple of days. Once and a while I read the pregnancy thread posts and they might have a week without a single one. I would love to post over there but I don't have anything to respond to. I guess it is because most of us pregnant ladies have not wanted to leave this active thread.
I stopped taking my progesterone cream last week. My doctor didn't tell me that I was going to feel so awful after I did. I have had headaches, cramps, diarrhea, nausea, and a tiny bit of spotting. I feel much better now but it took a few days. It was a bit much for me on top of the leaking urine problem. I have spent a few days taking it easy and sleeping in. I have another doctor's appt. on Friday. I know when they see me coming they say "here comes that crazy pregnant woman again".
I am glad to hear that I am not the only one with weak pelvic muscles. It does sound like I have it a bit worse though. I first noticed the problem when I caughed. Now if I even get to the point where I feel like I need to take a trip to the bathroom I feel a leak. I know, TMI. I just can't believe how fast it went from a tiny problem to a big one. It isn't a big enough problem that I wouldn't go through it a few more time if it means bringing home earth angels.
I think that I might be feeling this little boy kick a few times a day. It is an obvious something. It is not gas. I have felt this twice before but I am still not too sure.
sorry for the all about me post, I will be back later for personals.
Hi, everybody, ran out of time for personals, but wanted to spread some :bluedust: and :stickyvibesgirl:.
M/C hasn't started yet, so I'm just going about my normal (whatever that means) business and waiting. I have to get bloodwork tomorrow to make sure the hcg is decreasing. But I have sluggish hormones. It could be awhile. But I'm not in any (physical) pain, so I'm not really in a rush.
Hi all,
Helen - I know exactly where you are coming from with the movement stuff. If you need reassurance, please get it!!! You are early, but I totally understand, as I went to the GP a couple more times, just to hear the heartbeat.
Lan & Rozzie - Yes we do have names picked out. If it is a girl, we are naming her Lily and if it is a boy, we are naming him Blake. Rozzie, I am exactly the same at work, waiting for Christmas to have some days off. Today I have been officially at my work for 23 years (can you believe it!!!). I think they are very fortunate to have a long standing commited employee. Another girl at work is pregnant and about the same stage as me, at the beginning of her pregnancy she was very sick and took 3 weeks off sick etc etc.
Paula - the Detox sounds interesting, especially with the water turning black. Do you feel better from having it???
Tildy - Your "personal dev" talk, is what we call at work our "performance appraisals" and yes it is very hard when you really arent going to spend much time at work during the next 12 months. I put in that my goal, after the baby was born, is to do more website development etc.
Laney - How are you feeling??? you poor thing with coming off the progesterone and having cramps and spotting - it must have been very scary.
Tempus moriendi - great to hear from you and hoping you are all OK. You are in my thoughts.
dd0207 - I am very proud of you. It must have been hard sitting next to the pregnant lady at the party.
Stickybaby - thinking of you and hoping you are OK.
Katie - How's our gorgeous Anna??? hoping you are going well with the BF.
Jo - Havent heard from you for a while. Hoping you are OK.
Well with me had an interesting night. I think I felt more definate movement. When I sleep on my left side, I push the top leg right over and party squash part of my belly. Well each time I did that, I could feel bubs moving and kicking and it would wake me up. So that was very reassuring. Though I felt like I was squashing bubs and would move over to my right side and then my hip would hurt!!!!
xxx Sue xxx
Thanks for being proud of me and patting my shoulder girls, I know only you can understand. DH was great and said at any time I felt I did not want to be there, we would leave. At first it wasnt easy but after learning how to breathe again, it was fine and she had a beautiful belly. Yes Paula, I guess it is another milestone on my road to recover that I have overcome. Never thought about it that way.
Helen, hope bubs is making his/her presence felt. Please update us asap!
Paula, that detox thing, although gross as you put it, sounds amazing. I imagine you would feel quite cleansed afterward. I may have to look into it.
Tildy, good luck with your "personal development" talk. I had my "performance review" just after I lost my little boy and when my boss asked me what I wanted for myself the coming year, I said "a baby". It just came out! I had to do some serious back peddling after that but Im sure he saw right through me. Hmmm that drink you are describing sounds delicious! Perhaps just a sip?
I cannot believe that article!! I am shell shocked with the negligence of the doctor, not to mention the fact they did not think it was a big deal. How bloody infuriating. I dont think you cursed enough in your very articulate and direct blog! Good on you, very proud.
Laney, sorry you were feeling crampy and yuk, glad you are feeling better now.
TM sending you big hugs. Hope you are doing ok considering.
Sue, such beautiful names. How very exciting to feel those kicks. I would put my hip out to ensure I felt movements all the time! Congratulations on your 23 years at work!
Lan, it is a very emotional and scary time but we will all be there holding your hand every step of the way - infact we are going to be birthing buddies remember! Well pacing corridors together at least!
Rozzie, glad your boss is being considerate and hope all is well with you.
Jo, where are you?
Hi Katie, hope you and precious little Anna are doing well.
My P4 results are 25. The nurse told me this morning they are looking for a level of at least 35 but when I asked her about it now that she called with the result, she said my FS is happy with this number. I also asked about prog support but she said I didnt need it. Oh am so confused. Paula, I bet you have been waiting anxiously for this result so pleeeeease analyse away!
Hey Girls, glad to see you've all been busy today...
Laney: yay for kicks but sorry you have been feeling so crappy since coming of the progesterone. Heres hoping it helps you sort everything out.
DD: re the P4 results I am not sure if this is the same test as what I had. My test results just say 'progesterone' but they were 23.9 so not dissimilar to yours if they are the same test. My dr said that is definitely at the low end of normal. The range is between 12-90 so that may be why you've had conflicting advice. Your results are officially normal but at the low end of normal. My dr said that it wouldn't hurt to try because on the natural progesterone cream you can't really OD or anything. The fact that my usually horrid pms vanished as did my period pain etc indicates that i really needed a boost!. If I were you I would maybe chat to a couple of other drs. My dr does phone consults and I'm happy to give you his number if you like. He then sends a script through to a compounding chemist close to you so you can pick up the cream. Do you get pms etc, if so then I would definitely try it. You could always get an appointment with your FS and really push him on the point, ask if it would do any harm. I have read so many horror stories related to low progesterone and pregnancy loss, with a result of 25 I would definitely investigate a little further, it can't hurt. Sorry to go on about it, its just that my entire life has changed virtually overnight once I got hold of this cream and if thats your problem then I'd hate to think of you suffering when the solution is so simple.
TM: glad you are doing ok. keep your chin up. If you don't mind me asking, how come they are making you wait. It seems very cruel for you to have to sit around just waiting for the miscarriage to occur. Have they given you a reason?
Sue: OMG 23 years at your job. I hope they are giving you 12 months paid maternity leave. They should even give you 9 months paid pregnancy leave!! And how exciting about the movement. I know with Charlie I always felt her when I lay on a particular side. I think your names are gorgeous. DH and I have Lily shortlisted if we have a girl next time round. Its such a pretty feminine name isn't it.
Tildy: yay for maternity leave next year. I think you should definitely put that in your development review in big bold red letters!!
Hi to Lan, Berry, Sticky, Helen, Rozzie, Issy, Katie (and Anna) I hope you are all well.