Trying To Conceive After Stillbirth/Late Loss/Recurrent Miscarriage August 2008

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Just sending everyone good vibes :)
cindee xxxxxx

Hope everyone has a good weekend. i might not be on over the weekend, as im babysitting and going through junk so i can move. its amazing how much accumulates over the years. getting excited though a house of my own is good:lol:
anyway wish everyone a great weekend:grouphug::loveshower:
cindee xxxxxxxxxx

I'm happy to be fanatical. Rozzie, when I catch the preggy bug off you guys I'm buying a Doppler immediately. You too Paula? I'm so happy that you're going to be TTC-ing with me.

Sue, I got all warm and fuzzy reading about your bean and imagining what s/he would look like. I didnt' realise they moved much at 8wks. How cute!

Hi to all!

Hi all - well I am back in Melbourne. I was very sad saying bye to my mum as it has been so lovely to spend this past week with her. She kept telling me how much it has meant to have me there so I really feel like I have given her a lift. She is seeing the surgeon this afternoon and he will confim what treatment she needs - radiation and possibly chemo. I am exhausted and we have a party to go to tonight and I still need to clean up a bit before our friends arrive tomorrow. I am feeling sorry for myself! On a plus point...the baby has been moving around a lot. I even started wondering today if I may end up going early - not too early but before 40 weeks. Probably just wishful thinking on my behalf.

Helen - if you end up having twins then I will take credit for having psychic abilities. Though truth be told it was either writing 'he/she' or 'they' plus I think you have a couple of little babies waiting for their turn here on earth with you. I would like to think we all do - a couple of earth babies and our special angel babies looking after all of us.

Sue - so happy about your scan. Such a boost for the weekend.

Jo - I am sorry that you have not had any answers for Maddison's passing. My ob Mark has told me though that he has only had 1 patient have 2 late losses without finding a reason and she then went on to have healthy babies. He specialises in high risk, so I take that as good odds for all of us moving forward especially when they find no reason for the death. :hug: as I know how hard it is to not know why your baby did not make it. I hope you are doing ok. I am here if you need to chat. Thanks also for offering a shoulder and an ear in regards to my mum. I really do appreciate it.

Lanie - I hope you find this thread as inspirational as I have. It helped me through some dark days.

Rozzie - you are obviously good with your doppler finding the HB so quickly. I had my own doppler in the form of my Obs ultrasound when I had my weekly appointments!!! :) I think though that a doppler would have been difficult for me because I carry my babies low in the early part of pregnancy and this time I had an anterior placenta so I know even my ob at times had trouble finding a heartbeat. I think if it gives you peace of mind, then go for it.

Well I have to get cleaning so more hellos later. Hi to Cindee, Tildy, Lan, Paula and anyone else I have missed. :grouphug:

Quick note from me...

I've been to the doc's. Baby, cervix, everything look fine. There is no explanation for the bleeding or the pain (she saw no hematoma or placental abruption, and since I bleed every 1.5 - 2.5 weeks it can't be breakthrough bleeding), neither of which has stopped, and it's been a week now. So I'm glad that everything looks fine at the moment, but I cannot relax and stop worrying. She just said that I should take Cyklo-F (a medicine to lessen bleeding) and call again if the bleeding becomes heavy again.

Beiron's EDD is coming up in a week and a half, as well as the anniversary week of losing him coming up 3 weeks from now. So the next month or so is going to be very, very tough with all this nonsense going on.

I'm feeling VERY ill all of a sudden the last couple days, so I can't stick around and write more now. I'm going to keep myself in bed and try to rest up.

Hi Tildy, so relieved to hear that Kebab is doing good. One of my friends lost so much blood during childbirth that she had to have a blood transfusion. But 1.5yrs on she is fine and her little girl is fabulous. They never worked out where the blood she lost came from either!

Katie, 35 wks! Yay!

Hugs to all :-)

We have a very interested buyer in our apartment who keeps kicking us out of home for a "final look". It's becoming very unfunny now. Humph! We're supposed to go home to CBR this weekend but we're still sitting here waiting for them. Hisss!

Roz, I'm going to PM you my mobile. Can you pls PM me yours? Maybe we can catch up in CBR if you're free. My mum actually started some intensive medical treatment last Thurs so I'm home to keep her company (I know, just like Katie's!) but she's doing good so far so I'm happy.

Tildy - great news, your bub is such a fighter! Watch out! I hope that was the last of your troubles and now you can start to enjoy things. Easier said than done, I know.

Hammi - Gosh, is your mum OK? You have had a rough trot lately with people around you. I hope you get a sale soon for your place. Are you going to by a house or another unit? or just rent for a while?

Cindee - How is the packing going? We are looking at selling up next year, but have no real idea whether we will stay in Brizzy or head up north for a bit of a country change, I am from the country so I do like some space. I find the real estate game quite exciting! I have been to 4 open houses this morning!

Katie - Glad you are back safe and sound and I am sure your mother is feeling better just from having you there. Will she be able to come see you when your bubba is born?

I have started to get anxious about my appt on Mon, can't wait to have the pregnancy 'confirmed' and of course checked out. We told my inlaws yesterday, because my MIL came around with a bottle of bubbles for happy hour at our place, and there was no way I could have fooled her about not drinking! They are ecstatic, only problem is they leave to go back to NZ on the 16th. They are from there, but spend 6 months here a year, won't be back until May, bugger.

Hi Ladies,
I am new to the TTC page. I know a few names in here from the pregnancy after loss page. For those of you that don't know me...We lost a son at 22 weeks. Everything looked great one week and the next he was gone with no reasons found. We just lost our daughter at 28 weeks. She was measuring a little small at 17 weeks. I went to a high-risk doctor for weekly scans and they told me that she was going to die any day. She held on for 11 more weeks. I was 2 days away from having a c-section to give her a better chance on the outside. There is still no known reason for my losses. They found massive clots in the placenta but no clotting disorder.

I was pregnant for the 3rd time last month but we lost the baby at 5 weeks. I am now taking daily aspirin and heparin. We are going to TTC in the next few weeks. I am not ready to give up yet! I really don't know how I am going to be able to emotionally handle another pregnancy. My second was even more heart breaking than the first.
I am going to need a lot of support ladies, please!

Parker 7/27/07 @ 22 weeks :angel:
Shelby 5/27/08 @ 28 weeks :angel:
Bean 9/5/08 @ 5 weeks :angel:

Welcome Laney I hope we can give you :comfort:, we lost our son at 23+5wks in April and we re just 5 wks along now, and praying like crazy this journey doesn't end again. I can't imagine the horrible time you have had, you are extremely strong and amazing to not give up. I hope this time your journey brings you a gorgeous baby home. I am sure I speak for all of us when I send you this :grouphug:
Helen

hey girls!
hope you weekend has been good to you!
Laney - I am so happy you are over here with us! You might remember my story from the preg forum-very similar to yours but with Madison even with all the invasive tests this time on her and i, they found nothing. I see the head of obstetrics at Monash on the 16th so we will see what he has as options for me to do in terms of the future. And i agree the next loss def hit much harder than the first, i think in part because i was still grieveing for jack and then had to cope with madison passing also. And like you, i was told even if she was alive at the ultrasound it would have been a matter of time until she died as there was nothing they could have done. But i guess as mothers, we will always hold onto that small glimmer of hope -we have to! We are all here for you!
hgirs - good luck tomorrow for your "confirmation". YAY!
Katie - glad to hear you got home ok! And that you are so close to the end! Its so exciting!! And with the way you run around -i honestly would'nt be surprised if bubs came early! You never know.....;)
tildy -i am so glad you got home safely and that they have said all is ok. i was getting so worried about you! You do have a little fighter in there!
hammi -you have so much going on too. Hope your mum will be ok! please take care of you too!!! your pre preg counselling was in early nov????? was trying to remember!
cindee - make sure you take time out of your busy packing! it is exciting tomove and you will have so much to be excited about!!!!! hope your kids are feeling better!!
rozzie -good on you for finding the heartbeat so quickly! i swear if i had one while i was preg i would probably never take it off!!! i would find myself a bit addicted!!
lanie -hope you are ok! I am hopeless with anything computers so i'll join your stupid club too! ha ha!!!!
sryan - i am so glad you found your ultrasound so wonderful with the baby! It is so amazing what they show up but i think it is wonderful for all of us as we need those images so much!!!!
i am being kicked off! Visitors over!!
take care everyone! xjo

Jo- I do remember you and your little Madison. It would be hard to forget. Your story was so similar to mine. I didn't want to scare you with too much of my story when you were pregnant with Madison, so I didn't write very much to you. IUGR that starts as early as it has for you and I usually doesn't end well. My doctors were pretty straight about it right from the start.
I am sorry to hear that you do not have an answer either. I wanted a reason but I knew that I wasn't going to get one. I wanted something that they could fix. Did they take a closer look at the placenta? They did not find anything when we lost Parker but because Shelby held on so long the clots formed large sections of scar tissue on the placenta. It gives me a little hope for the heparin. I am almost positive that they will advise you to take the daily heparin shots as well. My regular OB told me that he would have given them to me even if my high risk doctor didn't find clots. I am happy that we will be TTC and pregnant around the same time. Most likely taking heparin shots together as well. :hug:

Parker 7/27/07 @ 22 weeks :angel:
Shelby 5/27/08 @ 28 weeks :angel:
bean 9/5/08 @ 5 weeks :angel:

Good morning everyone,

Sorry havent been on lately. Had mum and sister down, so it has been a bit busy.

Everything is fine with me, been feeling really nauseus at night, when I start organising dinner etc, it sets in and I can't eat much. So I have been filling up during the day (for just in case).

Hammi - how did you go with the buyer for the apartment???

Katiegirl - glad you are back safe and sound. How is your mum????

Laney - welcome to our group. Sorry to hear about your losses. I look forward to getting to know you.

Helen - how are you feeling???

Tildy - Glad everything is going well. You must be very mentally tough!!!! Will be thinking of you for Beirons EDD.

Hello to Cindee, Jo, Lanie and Rozzie - hoping all is well for you all.

xxx Sue xxx

Hi Girls

I've been away for a few days over the weekend. DH had a golf weekend and the organiser offered to put us up in some s****y accom for the weekend. I took full advantage and spent saturday by the pool before going to have 2.5hrs worth of massage and facial etc. The best bit is, my girlfriend is coming up next weekend and we are going to a spa retreat in Bryon for a couple of nights for more massages and facials. Some of us have to live the good life, it might as well be me for a few weeks!

Glad to hear everyone is well and all bubs are travelling along niceley. Keep up the good work.

Laney, welcome and I am so sorry to hear of your story. No matter how good I think I am doing after losing Charlie whenever I hear of someones loss the pain floods back as if it all happened yesterday. I think that is why it is so supportive in here, because everyone can emphathise so much and understands your pain. To suffer 3 losses the way you have must have been so heartbreaking but I am pleased you have not given up and I am sure you will find great ttc support here!

Anyway, I am off to the shops now. I am finally starting work tomorrow and have just realised that after 7 weeks holiday none of my clothes fit!! I am still carrying a bit of PG weight as well (I never seem to lose it the way my friends do). It is not good when you don't have a bub to show for it. So silly really, if I had a 3mo baby I wouldn't be so hard on myself about not having lost all the weight and yet because I haven't I feel like such a loser. Anyway, have been eating well and exercising heaps and it is slowly but surely coming off. Am hopying once my thyroid medication arrives that it may help a little as well. Oh well, a good excuse to shop I guess!

hi girls!
well, i have now got my 2nd AF. And the good news is that it has come around the same time as last month which is a good thing going forward for my body but at the same time it sucks as it is hard to think about the fact if Madison was alive i would'nt be having it right now! I am alot more prepared this time around, esp due to having no answers and so are writing dates and lengths and all sorts of things down, probably because i want to have as much info as possible to give to whoever i see. I have ben fnding myself very emotional these last few days. Dan spoke to the DH of girl who came into to work with her preg belly (the one who had her first loss same time as me) and i completely ignored by going on a break in the backroom cos i did'nt want to deal with the belly. Well, the DH said to dan that she had said i did'nt seem all there when she saw me (i was trying to fight back tears) and Dan told me he had told her DH about losing Madison but he had'nt told her as they were already so nervous and that would upset her too much. So her Dh was fine and understanding but she will still think i am a freak!
Laney - When i re-read my "i'm so happy your here!" post to you i cringed a bit and hope that you know i meant being here for support!!!! The girls are so so wonderful over here that i think you will gain as much from them as i have! And, about the shots -the OB i saw at Monash last week said that it was a possiblity next time around and that is why i have to see the professor Ob as he will let me know what path to look at. My body is'nt good with meds, i can get headspins of a panadol at times and really try to avoid things like that at all! But i am willing to work with anything at this stage -i honestly don't think i could cope with another loss. My heart is so fragile now. This happening twice is my worst nightmare came true.
mrs robbo - you are living a good life and so you should! You have been a big of a jetsetter lately! How did it feel going back to work? I hope you had a easy break in day!
syan - nausea is exciting for you...your little bubs is growing away in there! eat where you can - i find when i am preg that i am not much of a eater at night either for some reason and i have a HUGE appetite always! we always feel we have to compensate tho!
hammi -i am going to ask too - how is the buyer (:pray:) going? My parents move down near us next week and i am so excited to have them close again! They planned the move after we did and they only moved to stay close to us so it has been a big deal leaving their house of 17 years!
tildy -hope you are going ok! I'll have my arms around you in a cyber hug for the next few weeks!
katie - getting closer.................:dance::dance::dance:
hi to cindee, rozzie, hgirs, lanie - hope your all ok!!!!!
take care! x jo

Hi everyone

Hope the long weekend (for those who had it) was good to you all.

My mum is doing OK. She had a blood transfusion in her teens and contracted Hep C from it. She wasn’t diagnosed until a few years ago and just started treatment for it. The doctors said that some patients suffer from severe side effects in the first 6 weeks but so far my mum is doing OK. Fingers crossed that it’ll stay that way.

We also sold our apartment but I’m holding off on celebrating until our solicitor confirms that everything is in order. So, a mini yay.

Jo, your memory is good! I have my preconception counselling on 7 Nov. I’m really looking forward to it. When do you see the big kahuna Ob?

Laney, welcome to our little group. Your story is so, so hard. I hope you catch the vibe from all the BFPs we’ve been getting in here and that this next pregnancy will be The One.

I met the lovely Rozzie and her husband yesterday. So nice to be able to sit down and chat face-to-face after all these posts. I hope to be able to meet you all eventually… well, maybe not Laney in the US!

Hugs to all.

Hi Ladies, Thank you for the welcome. I really hesitated to move from the pregnancy page to TTC. It usually get pregnant the first month we try. After my early loss I figured I would be too nervous to let the world know that I was pregnant again right away. I think I will be sticking around for a little while.

Jo, I knew what you were trying to say, no need to explain. I wanted to let you know that I am the same way about taking any sort of medication. I can't even take cold medicine, it makes me very dizzy and tired. The one time a doctor gave me painkillers I couldn't stop getting sick and then I passes out. The heparin and aspirin combination never bothered me at all. I feel great, except for a few bruises. I was a little worried about taking it but I decided that I would try anything.

Parker 7/27/07 @ 22 weeks :angel:
Shelby 5/27/08 @ 28 weeks :angel:
bean 9/5/08 @ 5 weeks :angel:

Hi all - sorry I have been so slack. DH has been doing a huge assignment for uni and I have had to sacrifice my computer time.

Laney - welcome to this little group. I know it must be hard to be in the TTC thread again after all you have been through. I know you will find a lot of support and understanding here.

Jo - whilst it is good to hear that your cycle has returned, I know it is hard to accept that your body is returning to 'normal' and is no longer pregnant. I remember the torment that came with it - on one hand I was desperate for my AF to arrive so I knew I could move forward, but on the other it was a reminder that Nathaniel was no longer with me. :hug: I am not sure why your DH's friend decided not to tell his wife. I would feel terrible if I found out someone did not tell me about losing their baby just because of what had previously happened to me. I have tried very hard this pregnancy to not 'own' other people's grief and to always seperate the grief I feel for people like you and Mel from the feelings I have towards my own pregnancy this time. It means I can still offer you the sympathy and support you need without then 'owning' your grief and thinking that this will happen to me. I hope that makes sense. Anyway, you are not a freak and your friend will find out one day what happened with Madison and she will probably feel awful that she was not able to help you.

I saw the ob yesterday and all is good. Bubs is head down and engaged which makes me very happy. I have to go and eat some lunch but will come back and write more soon. Thank you all so much for the support you have offered me regarding my mum. She is doing well and we will find out on Monday when her treatment will start.

Hi everyone, just in quickly, had bloods done on Monday and having follow up done tomorrow to check levels are OK. Must seem like a paranoid mother, but this time I haven't had any MS or symptoms at all really. Not like with my boys I was sick by 5 wks, not that it is a bad thing it just doesn't feel real at all! So I have decided after getting my results on Friday I will tell my mum, feels like a big step. Got my referrals sent off to the hospital and Maternal Fetal Medicine, so let the journey begin! Still a bit concerned about not having a cervical stitch placed, but I will talk to the OB more about it I think. I am just crossing my fingers that it was ONLY the infection that let Cooper down and not IC.

I hope everyone is well, have to fly, Tildy how are you?