Trying To Conceive After Stillbirth/Late Loss/Recurrent Miscarriage August 2008

Hi Ladies,

Thanks for welcoming me into your group. I also wish I never had a reason to join!!!!!
Sryan, I have found repromed good and bad, my first specialist Dr Mudge debated with me that my first pregnancy was a miscarriage and even after my third when I specifically asked for blood work to be done he denied there was further tests I could do. I really am upset about that becuase when I met with Dr McClean she told me that considering I'm young and so many m/c's I probably should have been tested.

Dr McClean has been absolutely brilliant, she has taken a step back and looked at my general health and from that links are starting to be established. It just frustrates me that policy and procedures and all that red tape prevented me from accessing medical help which may have prevented the outcome of my last m/c. Sigh...... Sorry I could rant and rave but it won't get me anywhere!! lol.

I am currently in the two week wait and could't be more excitied about the prospect that I am doing things different this time and that theres a little more hope!

I wish you every success for your appt on Wed!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for all being so lovely, can't wait to keep you posted with the events that will unfold over the next two weeks :D

P.S If someone has a blood clotting disorder and has used heparin and aspirin could you please tell me what it's like
P.P.S I don't know how to put up those thingy's to let you know my age so I'll just type it in

Me 28 My fiance 26!!

Hi Lani,

I'm on aspirin and heparin (may/may not have clotting disorder, long story) and it's fine. I don't feel any different, the only bad thing is my stomach has bruises from the injections, but then I always bruised really easily anyway. Other than that I don't have any side effects and once you get used to injecting yourself it becomes second nature.

Sorry to hear about your miscarriages :(
We've all done the 'what ifs', hard not to, but in the end as you say it doesn't get you anywhere.

Sue, good luck for Wednesday!!

Helen, official and confident congrats!!!

Lan, you are next!!! BFPs seem to be contagious in here, so stick around!!!

Tildy, hope you are in a better place than the weekend. Big hugs.

Paula, congrats on being a lawyer!!! I understand it being a bittersweet moment for you, I'm sure we all think of our angels when something significant happens in our lives.

Jo, hope all goes well for your appointment, I'm sure you have lots of questions to ask. I look forward to a debrief, I'm sure with all our different experience someone will probably have a similar story.

Katie, I hope your Mum is doing well. I'm sure having you and your lovely big belly there is a boost for her.

As for me, everything is going well. Last time I had a bleed on last Friday (am on the same week schedule this time), no sign of it yet which I know medically means nothing, but psychologically it's important. Anyway, it's after 8pm, time for bed!!!!

Love Rozzie

Here I am, alive and kicking! :p

Thank you for all your lovely posts of concern and preggers Helen for checking up on me.:grouphug:

DH is OK. He does a lot of martial arts and he said all the conditioning he's done on his neck over the years probably saved him from a more serious injury. I told his parents and his mum said that his dad tends of pass out when ill too. And yes, he still refuses to see a doctor but I'm watching him.

So Helen....
:hooray::hooray::hooray: and can I say "I told you so" now? I TOLD YOU SO :lol:

Hello Lanie, I'm sorry for all your losses but you'll not only find the women here extremely supportive but on a pretty good roll with :bfp: I'm hoping I'll catch the sticky baby bug in December.

Rozzie and Tildy, how will we celebrate your promotion to 2nd tri after next week. Simultaneous consumption of ice-cream?

Katie, hope everything is OK in Brisbane. Is it weird seeing your belly wobble? Have you seen little imprints of baby parts against your skin? I've heard of that but never actually seen it.

Jo, how are you coping with Thursday looming. Will DH be with you? We will.

Sue, only two sleeps till your scan then you'll see a big thumping heartbeat and know that you've got one less milestone to worry about. Yay! :crossfingers:

Paula, congratulations on becoming a lawyer. All the more for getting through that hefty degree with all the heartbreaks you've faced. You're awesome!

Flowerchild, thanks for your comforting words. You're like a hot chocolate, once a while you come by and bring calm, comfort and understanding. Thank you.

Good morning girls,

Hoping everyone is well. It is an absolutely gorgeous day in Adelaide and I am on holidays..... yippee.

Anyway Lanie, so sorry to hear about your experiences at Repromed. Dr Mudge I have not seen, but before he went to Repromed, my friend had him as her Ob and thought he was good.

I am seeing Prof Norman who is an older gentleman, but is quite mondernised in his approach. I am also on asprin, but I dont have the blood clotting disorder, but he thought it wouldnt harm me to take asprin as I seem to bruise and the bruises stay a long time. I am also on Metformin, which is used for insulin resistance.

I wish you all the best in your 2ww. I hope to hear some good news.

It is funny that when I increased my metformin tablets and started taking asprin, I seemed to have gotten pregnant naturally. Maybe there is something in that.

A big hello to everyone else.

xxx Sue xxx

Lan - You are a cheeky bugger! But thanks for telling me so!

Lanie - go into your profile and edit your signature, you can add all your info there.

Sue - I will be thinking of you tomorrow, 1st of the month, sounds like a great day to have a great scan. Now make sure you get some sleep!

Big congratulations both to Helen and to Paula. I'm really happy for both of you.

Welcome, Lanie. I hope we can get to know you and help you through good and bad times.

Yes, Sue, unfortunately I've had more bleeding, so Spain hasn't been fun. This time the bleeding and clot-passing and pain haven't stopped like they have before, so I'm currently just crossing my fingers to get through the plane ride and everything, getting home about 12 hours from now, without anything happening. I wasn't able to get in to a doctor before this coming Friday morning. I just so wish I knew what a healthy pregnancy was supposed to be like and feel like so that I could seperate between what I'm feeling that's normal and what's not.

What a great 3 weeks off of work -- bleeding, worrying, bleeding, worrying, rushing the cat to the vet right before leaving for Spain, and a week of rain, rain, rain in Spain while Sweden was sunny and warm for the first time in a month and a half. :( I'm not a happy Tildy.

Oh Tildy, I hope everything settles down for you and you have an uneventful trip back home. I don't know what else to say.
Hugs

hi everybody hope everthing is well. been dealing with sick kids so havent been able to get on the computer. anyway seen my ob the other day things are going ok so far. still pretty scared though. but such is life, anyway id better go..
xxxx cindee

Hi everyone. I have been reading but not had the time to post. Thank you for all your lovely messages of support for my mum. She is doing ok and we will know more when she sees the surgeon on Friday. At the moment we are waiting to find out if she will need chemo as well as radiation.

Sue - good luck with your scan today. I have been thinking of you this week and I will say a prayer that all goes well and you are given a wonderful boost of confidence and hope when you see our little one's heartbeat.

Helen - huge congratulations. I kept looking at your chart thinking how good it looked...and we were all right!!! I wish you a healthy and uneventful 9 months and I hope we can all help you through what may be some tough milestones.

Lanie - I am very sorry to read of the losses of your babies. I hope you find wonderful support, understand and comfort here as you begin your TTC journey again. Here's hoping the 2WW does not feel too long for you. Welcome. :hug:

Tildy - I am so sorry that you have had another scare especially as you have been away in Spain and not able to see your dr. I am hoping and praying like mad that this is another haematoma and your dr will once again give you the all clear. Maybe you will need to take another rest break from work, as I am sure this holiday has been anything but relaxing. Take care and I hope the journey home is uneventful. Please let us know how you are when you get back to Sweden. :hug:

Cindee - sorry to hear you have had sick children to deal with. Great news that your your preg is going well. Stay positive but lean on us if you need some extra support.

Lan - glad to hear your DH is ok but how typical of men to not seek help. It does my head in every time. My DH would rather complain about a headache than simply take a tablet! Men....aagghhhh December is not far away - so your TTC journey will begin soon. That is exciting!

Paula - congratulations on your graduation. It is a massive achievement especially given the heartbreak you have also had to deal with. It is only natural that your graduation has bought up memories. I know I found this to be the same this year, when I would realise that I should have been holding my baby at the same time. It is only natural that you relate things back to what 'should have been' and that it hurts all over again. Take care and take pride in all that you have achieved.

Rozzie - wow 13 weeks. Well done. Passing milestones are wonderful! I have several - 12 weeks (for obvious reasons) 14 weeks (because that is when I had a bleed with Nathaniel), 15 weesk (because that is when they believe he passed away) and 20 weeks (because that is when we found out at the scan). It is a wonderful feeling to pass those milestones and to also realise that your baby is a different child and is doing things differently. :hug:

Jo - I had my DH express post to you on Monday the tests that I had done earlier this year. so I hope you received them. Good luck with your appointment tomorrow.

Have I missed anyone? If so, huge apologies.

As for me, I am doing well. The baby is moving well and I love seeing my belly move around. I don't think I can tell body parts yet, but there are definite bumps and hard bits sticking out. Poor thing must be getting squashed. I fly back on Friday and we have a party that night and then friends' staying Saturday night and going out to dinner with them - why I do this to myself I will never know. I am guessing by Sunday or Monday I will crash! Just know I am taking good care of my little girl and it is starting to sink in how close her arrival is. I am wanting to get back home as the nesting is finally starting to happen and I want to get everything ready. Alright off to make my mum a cup of tea. Have a lovely day everyone. :grouphug:

Oh no Tildy. I hope it is just the haematoma. Please let us know when you're home.

Good luck with your scan today Sue.

:stickyvibesboy::stickyvibesgirl: to you both.

Super hugs to Jo for tomorrow.

:grouphug: to you all.

hi guys!
katie - you and your mum have continued to be in my thoughts! I am glad you are taking care of yourself but as usual you have a mountain of things happening in your social life! be careful ok! And i got your package yesterday - as least i have somnething to make comparisons to with mine! thanks to you and your dh for doing that for me!
hammi - glad your dh is going ok! and how are you going??? anymore on the house hunting yet?
lani - its horrible that you have to join us in this way but we are all here for each other so please be welcomed! wishing you the best of luck on your 2ww!
sue -will be thinking of you today -can't wait to get on tonight and see how you went!!!! i know what you mean about stages, every little thing for us is another hurdle jumped over. its what scares me about "next time" - i now have a 1000 hurdles to pass before i get past the big one for me which will be at 5.5months when madison passed! I was bad with her preg after Jack!you have been so positive so far! keep in that mindframe!
tildy -am worried about you! Try to get in to see the doc before fri if poss -call you never know! keep us updated! Just get home and put your feet up!
mrs robbo -:dance: good for you! thats so exciting! congrats on your graduation! Know that you need to have a moment of pride as it is such a huge thing to have achieved. your angels would have been looking down on you! Don't do what if's -they will tear you apart!(try not to -we all do!) and 2009 is just around the corner!
rozzie -so happy all is going well for you!

as for me -thurs is all i can think about and i laid in bed last night thinking that tonight will be my night before etc. i am nervous, a bit scared and glad it is finally here so i can hopefully get something! i pick up her ashes tomorrow also so it is a big day all round! Dan won't be with me but i'll be driving straight back to mums after so i'll have an offload then. So now its not just seeing monash its getting her ashes, as i have never forgotton my immense horror and heartache at hearing jacks ashes swishing around as i carried it. i was a little annoyed tho as the funeral place had said they would call me when they had come in from Lilydale crematorium as they had organised it so i would'nt have to go there again and i had been leaving calling them as i thought they would call ME. But too much time had passed and i called them yesterday and the lady goes 'oh yes they are here" like i had asked if i had ordered something in! So it annoyed me that i did'nt call earlier and have her back at home with jacks. GRRR!
anyway -will check in later for sue!
take care guys! Hope i did'nt miss anyone!
x jo
p.s cindee -knew i had left someone out! hope you are taking some timeout for yourself with all your sick kids! its hard work so look after you too!

Good morning all,

Tildy - You poor thing with the bleeding. It must be so stressful, especially being away and not being able to get reassurance. Hope with be thinking of you and hoping all is OK.

Rozzie - understand about the psychological thinking of it all, I feel that when I start to feel comfortable about the pregnancy, something happens. Like last time, I got to 12 weeks and right on the dot of 12 weeks, I had bleeding and that was it.....

Jo - thinking of you....

Helen - How are you feeling??? has it sunked in yet??? I am so happy for you.

Katiegirl - make sure you look after yourself, you have special cargo in there and try and get as much rest as possible. Will be thinking of you and your mum on Friday...

A big hello to Lan, Cindee and Lanie, hoping all is well for you all.

Well with me, very nervous today.... Can't stop thinking about it and preparing myself for the worse. I dont know how I will cope if they can't find a heartbeat.

and of course I am concerned with everything, like the last few days my bb's arent as sore, I havent put on any weight at all etc etc.

I know I am being silly, but I suppose today is the telling story and in some ways I want to go and in others I dont. My appointment is not until 5.30 pm, so I have a long wait ahead of me....

Going mad.......

xxx Sue xxx

Tildy, I wish you were home and could get in to see someone straight away. It sounds like you had such a terrible time and just need to be home and comfortable. I will keep everything crossed that all is ok. I wish there was more I could do!

Sue... 5:30pm... omg you poor thing. That is going to be an horrendous wait... for all of us!! I am wishing and hoping with all my powers that you get good news and come out feeling reassured. I am sure you will but I know how you must be torn between hoping for the best and preparing for the worst. Again, I will have everything crossed.

Jo... let's hope you get some 'good' news tomorrow. I guess any kind of explanation will help a little. I can't believe you didn't get a call about Madison's ashes. Try not to get too upset about it, she will be home with you and her family soon and that is all that matters. I hope it doesn't sound morbid but I often get Charlie's ashes out when I am home by myself just to spend time with her. I always thought people who kept loved ones ashes were a bit weird but now I know better!

As far as I go I am expecting Charlie's death certificate to arrive in the mail today or tomorrow. We had a similar situation to Jo with the funeral place not calling us to say it had arrived. The first we knew it was in was a nasty letter they sent us asking why we hadn't collected it and that we owed them the $30 it cost them to order it for us. As if we wouldn't have picked it up immediately if they had called us. It was like they were suggesting we had deliberately not picked it up to avoid paying the $30... what a joke. Anyway, of course we paid the $30 straight away and they are posting the certificate out to us. I just couldn't go back there to pick it up, especially after the letter they sent.

Otherwise, all is good and I'm off for one of my final dvd on the couch days before starting work next week. Will also be getting back to the gym next week, I thought 7 weeks of holidays would be all exercise and health kicks... hahaha!!

hi!
sryan - i am still thinking of you and have just read your appointment was at 5.30! its like a day long tease! will have to log on later or tomorrow morning to hear your news!
mrs robbo - can i ask you about charlies death certificate? I was told by our funeral place that we did'nt need one? but when i checked charlie was a week younger than madison? does that make a difference, how did you get one and should i be double checking that? orginally they were doing it but then she came back and said we did'nt need it? I think i just went in circles but i hope you get what i mean!
x jo

Sue, just got home, thrown my bag on the floor and logged on to check on you but you haven't yet posted. Here's hoping for a glowing report soon.

Jo, I was told that the hospital completes the death certificate. I'm not sure if that's just NSW but I've never seen one for Hamish. Only his birth certificate.

I can't believe the problems you and Paula went through to get your babies' ashes. GRRRRRR!

Hi girls,

I am back with good news.

I saw my bubs, with a heartbeat of 172 bpm.

I can not believe it, anyway still trying to not get to excited and wait until 12 weeks.

Thank you everyone for your positive vibes.

Yippee

xxx Sue xx

Sue - :leap::hooray::leap::hooray::hooray::leap: Fantastic!

Jo - We got a death certificate for Cooper, the funeral home organized it. It really hit me for a six, I wasn't really expecting it, it arrived in the mail a couple of weeks after he died. But that is in QLD, maybe give Births, Deaths and Marriages a call, or ask at your appointment tomorrow they may be able to tell you.:grouphug: for tomorrow, I hope you get some answers. Try to get some sleep tonight.

Tildy - I hope you are doing OK, are you home yet?