TTC AFTER Late Loss/Recurrent Miscarriage/ Stillbirth

Hi lovely ladies

There aren't many of us non-pg ones left in here now! :D But it's nice that Teagz, Megan and Beata will be around to give us moral support and show us that good things are possible after the tragedies we have had in our lives. Thanks girls :grouphug:

Aries - sorry, I forgot to post a reply to you about what other people think about you and DH TTC again. I don't think it is anyone's business. It is up to you and DH to decide what is the right thing to do in your heart. People have no right to judge your personal decisions. We have avoided the topic by not telling people that we are trying again, mostly to try to reduce the pressure on us. It took us such a long time to conceive Ryan and we didn't tell people then either. Nothing has changed really in that respect.

Bec - sorry to hear you are feeling down. Hopefully you will find some happiness in your life very soon :hug:

Jo - not sure where you're at at the moment, but hope you're doing ok

AFM, not much change. More EWCM this morning so I did an O test (bought the digital kind at lunchtime) and it was negative, so maybe the CM is a sign that AF is on her way. I am craving chocolate, and that's a sign for me, so hopefully she'll visit very soon!

Gotta go and cook dinner. Take care all.
oxo

Hi ladies,

Samcougar, thanks hun! Hopefully this thread with be empty soon as we'll all be UTD! I'm praying very hard :pray:

Cheryl, it's sure a good sign in here with the BFPs, I always thought July was going to be a good month for us all. If not for all, bring on August I say! I've been on belly since Dec 2008 and I have found so much support here, especially this thread, I am ever so grateful. Although there is not many of us here now, I know there will be more success stories out of this thread soon and I can hardly wait for all the BFPs.

Big hugs to all my beautiful girls :grouphug:, I'll be back soon with some more persies.

Love always
B xxx

Hi Ladies

OMG! A very feint BFP for me! Very feint but DH sees it too, so I am not imagining it! Will do another in the morning. I am scared, excited, nervous & ecstatic all at once.

Will keep you posted for sure..... sorry for the personal post I just cannot think straight atm!!!!!

xoxox

OMG Aries!!! I just logged on and saw your post!!!! I am so excited for you hun, a second line is a second line, no matter how faint! I think you have a BFP sweetheart!
Will start my celebratory little dance now :leap: Congratulations hunni!!!!!

Our very next BFP! Told you July was going to be a good month!!!!!! Bring it on I say!!!!!

Love and lots of big hugs
B xxxoooo

Thank you Beata.... starting to calm down now :hooray:

So scared thats its all a dream you know? I had an inkling as I have had ovary pain for the last 2 days and that was my indicator with Alex.

Big deep breath and some sleep... sounds like a plan!

Love to everyone

xox

I know hun, I still think I'm going to wake up from mine! lol. Take it easy hunni, your head is going to spin for a few days but you have a BFP!!! You deserve it so much, so enjoy every minute of it. Wishing you a long & boring & uneventhful 9 months!

Big kiss
Bxxxxx

Aires, that's great CONGRATS!!!

Keep spreading that baby dust round girls! :pink-babydust: :bluedust:
And lots of special AF dust to Cheryl to get your cycles moving too :pray:

AFM, Fertility friend thinks I already ovulated on day 10 this cycle. I used my maybe baby for the first time and did get ferning which has now gone. And I had EWCM which has also now gone. So maybe it's right. Not much of a temp rise really though. Lucky we BDed once... On that day though so might be too late.

I wouldn't be surprised if FF is wrong anyway. It was day 15 last month and 16 the month before that. Better keep up the BDing just in case :redface: If DH ever gets home from footy training!

Had a very down day yesterday. My friend from work had her baby boy a few days ago and yesterday she put his photos on facebook. He looks so like Luca, except he is a beautiful pink alive colour. It was one of those things out of the blue that I would not have thought would effect me so much. Also spent time with two friends with Luca aged babies. Sigh.

Yay again Aires, let us know how it goes tomorrow.

xx Bec.

Bec, I'm sending you a big hug darling :hug: I think there will always be little moments when we remember our beautiful angels. Our angels are never far away :comfort:.

Big hugs hun and I pray you've caught that sticky eggie! :pray:

B xxxxxxooooooo

Good morning Ladies

FMU today turned up a negative :dunno:

So I may have jumped the gun a little? Oh so confused now...... will test again if AF doesnt show up on Sunday or Monday.

Big hugs and thanks to you all xo

Hi darling, leave the testing until sunday and use Early Response HPT as this test is very sensitive and it picks up HCG up to 6 days before AF is due. GL sweetie :crossfingers: I have everything crossed for you :pray:

B xxx

Hi Aries, that's a disappointment and yes, so confusing. I'm still hoping for you though. I never give up hope until AF actually arrives!

xx Bec.

Hi ladies

Aries - Bec is right - don't give up hope. Did you use a different pg test from the first one? They do have different sensitivity levels. If you can hang out until Sunday morning, maybe test then. Try to stay positive but I know where you are at at the moment. Sending you lots of :bluedust::pink-babydust: :hug:

Bec - thanks for thinking of me. No AF yet :doh: Have just picked up another set of herbs, different formula to use through AF until O. Which is great, now if only that would happen :wall: Anyway, trying to stay positive, not dwell on it too much and keep being healthy and exercising. Makes me sound like I'm a saint, which I definitely am NOT ;)

Megan, Beata and Teagz - hope your little bundles are growing nicely and not causing too many nasty symptoms for you all.

:hello: to Samcougar and ALM. Hope you have a nice relaxing weekend planned.

AFM, I have a uni assignment to write to be submitted before we go overseas in 2 weeks, so I have this weekend and next weekend to write and submit it. I am trying very hard to not be obsessive with it and just do enough to get me a pass. I think anything more would be great, but I just want to feel like I have accomplished something this year which is why I have gone back to study, even though the uni said I could have another leave of absence on compassionate grounds.

DH and I went out for dinner tonight. He hasn't been doing so well recently and had a very down day during the week. He finally told me how he is feeling and why. He can see that I am getting better, getting back into exercise, losing weight, working full time and studying again, so he can finally feel like he doesn't have to be strong for me, so consequently he is starting to turn in on himself and think about all that has happened these past 4 months or so. I see myself in him now where I was a few months ago - stressed, grieving and tired, to the point of exhaustion. He has negotiated with his boss to work only a few days over the next 2 weeks so that he can have some time to look after himself and hopefully that time together with our 5 weeks overseas will see him feeling better soon. It is amazing that he is able to see all of this himself and not fall into a crumpled mess. He is such a beautiful person it hurts me to see him so upset, but I am sure he will come through it in his own time, just as I did.

Anyway, :hug: to everyone. Hope you all have a great weekend.
Take care
oxo

Hi Girls,

Cheryl, big hugs for your hubby :hug: I know how awful my DF felt after our loss, but he wouldn't let me see it as he was trying to be strong for the both of us. Our beautiful, stong men, they they are so worried for us yet they don't let us be there for them! I really hope you have the greatest time o/s on your holiday, I think it will be so good for the both of you. Relax and anjoy it hun, it will give you a much needed boost.
BTW, what are you studying at uni? I have thought of going back myself, I'd love to study psychology.
Sending you lovely 'AF' vibes, hope it's not too far away!

Aries, hope 'AF' is staying away hun, fingers and toes crossed hunni! :pray:

Bec, hope you're feeling a bit better hun. Remember to stay positive and I hope a BFP visits you very soon!

Megan, how are you going hun? When is your scan? Big hugs hun xx

Samcougar, Teagz & Jo :hello: ladies, I hope you're going well.

Sending lots of :bluedust: & :stickyvibesgirl: to all my beautiful girls TTC, I hope we'll see some nice BFPs in here soon!!! :pray::pray::pray:

AFM, I'm off to the Dandenongs tonight, looking forward to spending some romantic time with DF.

Hope everyone has a great weekend!

Love & hugs
B xxx

Hi Beata

I'm doing a Masters of science & tech in aviation. It is very much work related but it does interest me. I would love to do some uni study in acupuncture and chinese herbal medicine but since I don't live in Sydney or Melbourne and therefore can't do one of the uni courses there, it's not much point as I wouldn't be accredited by AACMA who are the leading industry body. But that may change once a registration board is implemented from 1st July 2012. So I will wait on that one for a bit and try to finish my Masters instead.

Hope you and DF have a lovely weekend in the Dandenongs!

oxo

Hi lovely ladies

Thanks for your thoughts, I am pretty sure that AF is on her way.......... I am having a crappy afternoon.
My niece has spent the last two hours asking questions about Alex - where is your baby, how long til the baby comes out etc & although I am pleased she remembers and cares it has made me so sad. I just took a long walk and realised I would be two weeks away from maternity leave and 6 weeks away from his birth. I should be fat with a preggy belly!!! The emotions are so full on at the moment which is another reason I feel AF is on her way.
I want to be pregnant so much but I have to admit I am also very scared to do it all again. Maybe Im not ready yet....... I thought I was being so strong and dealing really well but in actual fact I am a mess.

Anyhow.......

Chez - Good luck with your assignment. Having your trip coming up must be a great motivation to get it done!

Hi to all - sorry not much motivation to do personals today, I hope you are all well and will check in later :grouphug:

Take care xox

Hi all,

Aires, that must have been so hard. It is only natural for you to have ups and downs in your grief, especially before your due date and when milestones like when you should be going on maternity leave come along. I was lucky in a way, only have to wait 5 weeks to my due date, but I still kept looking down at my tummy wondering where my baby had gone. Grief has been described like waves. Something triggers a stronger wave of grief and you feel worse again. But in time, even though you still have times of feeling worse, they become shorter (you feel better quicker) and further apart. Can you tell I love to read books LOL. Sometimes it helps, and nothing helps, all at the same time!

Cheryl, I'm busy studying this weekend too. I have a presentation at uni on monday. I am anxious about it though - some people who were in classes with me last year will be there and I'm sure someone will ask how my baby is and I'll have to tell them he died, right before I have to give my talk. Hope your assignment is coming together without too much trouble. I kept going at uni this year for a similar reason, though I partly regret it - it's been really hard. I'm looking forward to finishing my masters in October though!!
I think it's meant to be quite common for men to have their turn to grieve after we pull ourselves together a bit. This hasn't happened with my DH but maybe that's because I haven't pulled myself together! Is there a men's group he could go to? SIDS and Kids run them in melbourne - not sure about elsewhere. DH doesn't got but he comes to the perinatal loss ones with me and I think he finds it helpful. SIDS and Kids have a large booklet with stories men have written which might help him too - I'm sure they would send a copy. I think it's called men grieve too.

Beata, have fun in the Dandenongs! Should be lovely. You'll have to rug up though!

Bec, big hugs to you too. I've forgoten where you are in your cycle sorry.

Hi to anyone I missed.

AFM, still looking like I ovulated on day 10. But we're still BDing just in case. Would anyone be ale to check our my chart and tell me what you think? It's doing my head in. This cycle is just so different to usual and it worries me.
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xx Bec.

Bec, I don't know a thing about charts so i can't help you there but i'm sending you a huge hug hun, i'm praying you caught that little eggie.:pray:

Cheryl, Goodluck on your assignment hun, they can be so stressful. I'm sorry DH is feeling down, My DH did the same thing and i think it shocked him a bit. You just have to be there for him like he is for you, Bec is right, is there somewhere he can go to talk to help him out? My DH talked to a few friends who are fantastic, eventhough they haven't been through the same thing i think it helped that he could talk to someone else. I hope i made sense, I tend to babble alot!! :rolleyes:

Aries, Huge hugs hunni, that must have been so hard, I don't know what else to say. Bec's right grief sneeks up on you like waves, you think they are gone and then you find yourself bowled over again. Keep looking for the light hun, it is there no matter how far away it seems.:hug:

Beata, I hope you had a lovely relaxing weekend.

so AFM I think im on about 12dpo, so i did a HPT and got a BFN which was what i was expecting, but it still made me feel a little sad. anyway maybe next time. So AF should be here on Tuesday and I am so sick of her I never ever had pain when i had her, but now it's that bad it's not funny! Sorry if it's TMI. and i have the flu which is making me feel grumpy!! :cold: oh well...:)

My love to all :grouphug:

Bec

Hi ladies

BB just ate my post :wall:

Aries - sending you lots of :hug: I understand completely where you are at at the moment. If only we could have the choice about choosing our lives as they are now or choosing to still be pg, counting down the days until we could hold our babies in our arms. Hopefully this experience makes us stronger, better people. It is little comfort I know but I am trying hard to take the good out of a bad situation. I hope you can too. I am sorry that your niece had so many questions about Alex which made you feel sad. I am sure she didn't mean to upset you. Maybe you can ask her mum/dad to talk to her about Alex and how it makes you sad to talk about him at the moment. I am sure she would understand. Then you can talk to her about him when you have the strength. I understand about wanting to be pg again too. I am sure it will happen for both us, it is just something that we can't rush and maybe we will be better off for the time in between our loss and our next pg, even though it feels so painful at the moment. It has only been such a short time since you lost Alex, be kind to yourself and don't expect too much too soon. :hug: Take care hun.

Samcougar - sorry you got a BFN and that you are feeling grumpy - send AF my way instead! And to have the flu as well.... you poor thing. Have you considered any alternative therapies for AF pain? or maybe just take the day off work and snuggle in with a hot water bottle instead? :hug: Hope you are feeling better very soon.

Bec - I hope your study is coming along nicely and good luck with your presentation tomorrow. Is there some way you can avoid talking to people beforehand? I don't think I could have that conversation and then stand up and give a presentation - I would be a mess. You are so strong to have continued with uni through this year. I had considered withdrawing from my course completely but I am half way through so I decided I would continue. I guess it shows my stubborness at not giving in!

Thanks everyone for your thoughts and advice about DH. I have suggested a S&K group to him in the past but he is not interested. He has spoken to some work friends last week but I am not sure how much information they had but he did find that helped a bit. Both of them are parents so I guess they do understand in some way. At the moment I am just trying to give him his space but also letting him know that I am here if he needs me. It is a tricky balancing act!

AFM, still waiting for AF. I thought maybe she would show up this weekend as I have had lots of ab pains and twinges and sore BBs on and off, along with chocolate cravings, but nothing yet. I wouldn't be surprised if this continues until Ryan's EDD in August, which is while we are away. But I am going to be prepared - I am taking a stack of OPKs with me as I think temping while travelling will be very hard. I am really hoping that I O while we are overseas!

Anyway, enough procrastination, back to study.

:grouphug: to all

oxo

Bec

I forgot to say I had a look at your chart and I understand what you mean. Your temps seem a little strange. Why don't you ask the FF experts to have a look at it for you? You can access them through the Contact Us - Support menu bar in FF.

Hopefully they might be able to look at your chart and also answer any questions you might have. When my chart went haywire they contacted me with some information.

Good luck!
oxo

Hi Ladies

Thank you all so much for your kind words and understanding. As predicted its cycle day 1 for me today, with AF rearing her ugly self. I actually am ok with it all today, yesterday was a terrible day (hormones are wonderful!) but I think I needed it all the same. I threw myself back into work so quickly after Alex was born that I put everything to the back of my mind - thinking that I was doing really well but in actual fact it was doing more damage than good. I have a weeks holiday coming up in 2 weeks so I am looking forward to some time out.
On the plus side I have just realised that I am now on a 28 day cycle, knowing when I ovulated to the day of AF. I am quite proud of myself as I have NEVER had a regular cycle, maybe my body is sorting itself out properly.
I think DH and I are going to have a little break for a while - work on us and our situation & where we are headed. So I might back off a little from this thread, but will lurk for our next BFP's!
I really do wish you all the very best with your TTC journey and for your journeys in general. Thank you for your support - it really does help in every possible way.
To our ladies who are awaiting thier precious bundles, enjoy and take care of yourselves!

All my love xoxox

Hi Aries, that's great news about your 28 day cycle. All the very very best of luck working out what is best for you re timing of TTC. If you feel like reading something, there is a booklet on the SIDS and Kids website about chosing when to TTC Sids and Kids

The grief is really so difficult. In a way I felt worse than ever at around 4 months after Luca died. Now, just over 6 months on, I still have some very difficult days and try to deal with them by 'carving out time to grieve' as I read was helpful early on. One thing that makes me feel a little better is trying to think of the sad days as an opportunity to feel love for Luca and remember him. I don't think there's any one way to deal with grief. You might have gotten some positives out of going back to work early, as well as difficulties. I hope the week off is very healing for both of you and really refreshes your relationship with one another too. It's hard work regaining hope for the future.

Cheryl, thanks for looking at my chart for me. I had cramps today, so I hope I ovulated today even though the temps aren't normal. I'll see what happens over the next few days. Can't do anything about it anyway!

Bec, hope you get better soon. I get worse cramps with AF now too. I've been trying to exercise as it's supposed to help. It's supposed to help lots of things but I still find it hard to get around to LOL.

xx Bec.

Hi Girls,

Aries, I'm sorry AF arrived :hug: but wishing you all the best when you're TTC again. Great news about the 28 day cycle though, looks like things are back on track.
I'll be thinking of you on your due date, I hope the day is gentle and peaceful for you, look after yourself hun.

Cheryl, the AP and CHM studies interest me too, I really hope you get to study them one day. Praying for AF to visit you soon :pray:

Samcougar, if AF shows, GL with your next cycle hun. And I am getting a cold too, I am so not happy!!!!!!! Hope you feel better soon :hug:

Bec, I'm really not good at reading charts, I tried them and could not work out half the time when I actually ovulated, sorry! GL with this current cycle hun, it would be very nice to see a BFP in here soon! :pray:

Megan, Teagz, Diana :hello: lovelies!

AFM, the Dandenongs were very nice and relaxing. Unfortunately I opted not to have the spa as I was too paranoid about rising my body temp too much and for bubbles to go up my poonanie. So my DF had the spa and I promissed him a massage, except when he got out I was asleep! Hehe, he missed out. BUT, I am not very happy with him ATM. On Friday night I went out to dinner with a couple of close GF, and I asked DF to pick me up on the way back from the football. He did, but his son was coughing like a trooper in the car all the way home and I wasn't impressed. Basically he gets sick all the time cos he was a premmie, and he catches colds very easily. He also smokes which puts a lot more pressure on his lungs. So I told my DF that he should have just called me and told me Nick was sick and I would have found my own way home. Now I have a big tickle in my chest and throat, I am now coughing like a trooper, and I am absolutely terrified of getting a fever as that's dangerous in early pg. Sorry for the vent, he just doesn't think sometimes....:wall: To top it all off, I think I have thrush. Great!

I hope everyone has a good week, and I'm spreading more :bluedust: & :stickyvibesgirl: in here!

B xxx

Aries, I am sorry that AF arrived, but am glad that you had a 28-day cycle, getting your cycle 'back to normal', really is a great step forward. All the very best for when you decide to ttc and good on you for taking time out with your DH, your relationship is the most important thing, so all the best hun.

Beata, glad you had a nice break, annoying about getting a cold, I am sure that bubs will be fine in there, don't worry too much, just see your doctor if your temps start to rise. Plenty of sleep and good nutrition will help a lot I'm sure. Also, I hope its not thrush. I got a bit 'dry' early in my pg (well, it still is early really :D), cotton undies (no g-string) help and my dr said sorbolene cream is safe to use to relieve dryness. Good luck.

Bec, I had a look at your chart, and I have to say it doesn't look strange to me, similar to what some of mine looked like. I think you O'ed on CD10 as well, but it doesn't hurt to keep BD'ing to be safe, its what we did as well. I noticed that some of your charts had a LP of 10 days or less, I think you were the one that gave me advise on this? so you would know that its important that your LP is 11 days or longer. Have you tried Accupuncture at all? Your last 2 cycles look much better, which I am sure is a really good sign, so maybe for you its a matter of your cycle 'returning to normal' as well. Hope I didn't stick my nose too far, you did only say to look at your currrent chart :redface:

Samcougar, there is still a chance for a BFP. I dont' think I would ever had got a BFP until I was late. I tested the day after AF was due this time and the line was quite faint, so you never know. Good luck.

AFM, had my parents with me for the weekend, which was great. We told them our news and they are very excited and praying with us that this little gorgie will be a healthy baby and make it to full term :pray: Just very tired at the moment and still get m/s most days, but not very badly. Sending lots of :bluedust: and :stickyvibesgirl: to you all.

Berry, thank you very very much for your chart analysis! I don't mind at all.

Beata, bummer about the spa. I remember going away and missing out on spas during both my pregnancies. Better safe than worrying!
Hope your cough just goes away. It's horrible being sick when you're pregnant.

xx Bec.

Thanks girls :grouphug: Mum is on the way wth some chicken soup, panadol and a cough mixture & some fruit. She's my personal doctor ;) although she always gives me a hard time when I get sick. Why do you go out out in the cold, why don't you wear more clothing, why do you work in an open office so when people are sick you get sick?? Blah blah blah. She loves me!

Hugs to all :grouphug: I am off to bed now...:cold:

B xxx

Hi girls

Beata - glad you enjoyed your weekend away. I think DH should have given you the massage since you missed out on the spa, at least a shoulder and neck massage anyway just to be safe. Sorry that you're not feeling well today. It must be nice to have your mum around to play doctor though - I bet she loves it :)

Aries - sorry that AF has finally arrived but good news that your cycle is sorting itself out. It's good to have someone like Megan around to give you some charting tips. I am just a beginner using FF myself. And I hope you and DH enjoy your time off soon. It's important to work on our relationships and ensure that the ttc 'science' doesn't overwhelm everything. We have had to do the same thing ourselves, usually because it was doing my head in and making me into a crazy lady!

Megan - yay on being able to share the news with your parents. It makes that little more real doesn't it? I hope m/s isn't too bad for you. Have you had a scan yet? I could pop into the pg threads and stalk you but I'm not strong enough to do that yet... it's all too real for me at the moment.

Bec - how did your uni presentation go today? I'm sure you rocked!

:hello: to Samcougar, Jo and everyone else.

AFM, woke up like a bear with a sore head this morning. I am hoping that it is a sign that AF is on her way. Although last Monday morning I felt the same. I have had EWCM over the weekend and today as well. I haven't bothered to do an OPK as I don't have the energy to. I know that sounds slack but I just want this cycle to be finished with. I just have no idea what my body is doing. I am considering going to my GP to see if there is anything that she can do. I have read that sometimes a progresterone injection is given but I don't really know the specifics of this. Does anyone know of anything? I will post something on one of the other threads as well. I am feeling very frustrated and annoyed and just want to move forward!

Anyway, gotta go.
Take care all
oxo

Just a quick one for Cheryl. Hun, sometimes enough is enough, you have been waiting for AF for such a long-time. I support your thoughts on seeing your Dr. I totally support the 'natural way', but there is a place for medicine and perhaps it is at least worth a visit to see what they have to say?

I haven't had a scan as yet, but am seeing the geneticist at the hospital on Thursday and will see if they can do one then.

Beata, take care and enjoy being looked after.

Take care everyone and stay away from people with colds :D Did I mention that my boss currently has Chicken Pox - fabulous!

Thanks Megan

I am feeling like cr@p today. Headache and nausea so have come home from work early. I am going to piggyback onto my DH's doctor's appointment this afternoon (he's got a sore eye) to see if we can get the ball rolling on some tests on me. My TCM thinks I am likely to be menopausal. I just don't understand how I can go from a natural pregnancy and a regular cyle last year to being menopausal now... And it seems way to early. I have only just turned 42!

Anyway, hopefully I will get some more information today. Now am heading off to rest.

oxo

Hi ladies

I managed to get a couple of hours sleep but I still have a headache and am not feeling 100% :(

Saw my GP. She has ordered a stack of b/t which I will get done first thing tomorrow morning and an u/s to check lining and ovaries etc. I was very lucky and managed to get an appointment at 9.30 tomorrow which had just been cancelled by someone else, otherwise it would have been next week. So testing day tomorrow and then back to the doctor on Friday morning for the results.

My GP is lovely. She thinks it is highly unlikely that I am menopausal when I have no family history of early menopause and given the recent pg. She thinks it is more likely to be stress related. So, I am considering chucking in uni altogether. It would mean the pressure is off the rest of this year. Alternatively I could take a leave of absence this semester and decide early next year whether to continue or not. What do you think? I would appreciate your input into this as I feel like you ladies know so well what I have been through these last 4 months or so. What would you do in my situation? I need to make a decision in the next few days so I would appreciate your opinions.

Many thanks and :hug: to all.
BBL
oxo

Yay Chez, that's hopeful.

With uni I think go the leave of absence. Keep your options open. Then you don't have to worry about decision making until then - it's a less difficult decision to make now.

xx bec.

Hi Cheryl,

Great news that you were able to see the Dr so quickly and get the ball rolling. Agree with the dr that the funny cycle is likely to be stress related, or your body just hasn't 'normalised' v's menopause. Are you going to continue with a/p or do you think it might be worth giving it a rest? Taking a break from uni, I think is a really good idea, you absolutely can never underestimate what stress can do to the body. I am with Bec in suggesting you take a leave of absence, that way nothing is determined here & now, you have options next yr when you can evaluate where you are at then. I'm not sure how far you are through your course, but you don't want to throw away all your hard work.

I think you are taking some really positive steps here :hug: I pray that things all fall into place for you Cheryl.

Hi Girls,

Cheryl, I'm sorry you're not feeling 100% :hug: I do believe your body is still under substantial emotional and physical stress, so I would be postponing your uni like the other girls have suggested, and take it easy hun! I know your upcoming holiday will do you both a world of good, so bring it on! Thinking of you hun and sending you big huggies!

Megan, did you have your geneticist app. already? How about your scan? Sorry hun, bit hard to keep up these days but just wanted to check how you are going. I have my fingers and toes (and everything else too! lol) crossed for you sweetie :crossfingers:. I hope your results are good.

Aries, hope you're going OK hunni, take care and can't wait to see you TTC again soon hun!

:hello: to Bec, Samcougar, Jo & Teagz, hope you ladies are well. Anyone testing soon?????? I pray for more BFPs in here soon!! :pray: :pray::pray:

AFM, I have been really sick all this week with a cold. Managed to see the doc on Tuesday and he wouldn't give me anything, even said to be careful with panadol...!!! Hellooooooooooooooooo!! My head felt like it was gonna explode so I took some. Bugger that for a joke! Feeling a bit better now, not as congested and just a bit of a cough now.

Hope everyone has a good day!

Love and hugs

Bxxx

Hi girls

Thanks very much for your replies. I think I will take the leave of absence. It will take away that sense of having to do study when all I want to do is rest and be with DH. I'll put the app in tomorrow to formalise it.

I went for b/t and ultrasound this morning. The u/s looked good. There is a nice healthy 18mm follie on the right ovary and several smaller follies on the left. Lining was only 4 to 5mm which I thought was a bit thin. From memory don't the FS like to have the lining at 8 to 10mm for a transfer? So I am guessing that is what the body should be at for ovulation? Does anyone know more about this?

Anyway, I am hopeful that physically things are ok. My chiro did some more adjustments today to stimulate my pituatary gland and also gave me some selenium supplements as his testing showed I am deficient in it. I'll take them for a few days only as I know that it can be dangerous to take more than 100mcg/day for any length of time. He's going to reassess on Monday. Apparently selenium is needed for ovulation and to regulate cycles. Farmers in Canberra give animals salt licks with added selenium because we have very low levels of it in the soils in this area - interesting to be compared wtih sheep and cows!

Anyway, enough of me...

Megan - hope your geneticist visit went well today. Did you get to see your little one on a scan? How exciting!

Beata - sorry to hear that you haven't shaken that cold. Poor thing :hug: Your dr is very cautious to suggest that you should be careful about panadol as well... I mean sometimes you just have to have something!

:hello: to Samcougar, Aries, Bec, Jo and Teagz. I hope you're all doing well.

6 working days left until our holiday :dance:

oxo

Cheryl, I am glad you have made a decision re: uni and are getting this moving straight away. I am sure you'll relax even more on your holiday knowing you don't have to come back to study. Very exciting that your holiday is just around the corner :D

Beata, I hope you recover quickly. I hope you are taking some time off work. Any news on Diana? I hope her & bubs are ok.

AFM, I saw the geneticist today (thanks for asking girls) and we made a 'plan' for my care, she was really really nice and I felt good about the next steps. She even managed to get me in for a scan and yes we saw a beautiful heartbeat, you couldn't wipe the smile off my face :D The dates are right on target at 8-wks today. So very pleased and feeling very blessed. I really pray all of you get your BFP's soon, you ladies really deserve it :grouphug:

Take care.

Magan, yay!!!!!!! :leap: That is so beautiful to see that heartbeat. I'm so glad you're happy with the lady you saw and have a plan. That must make you feel like you're in good hands hun! Good on you hun!
Diana is doing very well, her cervix has been behaving itself and she is now allowed to do a bit more at home. I keep telling her to continue to take it easy. I think she's around 25 weeks now! Can you believe it??

Cheryl, only 6 days to go hun!!! Woohoo! You must be getting super excited now! I really hope you have the best time :D

Big hello to everyone else :hello:

I am feeling a bit better now, but started to have that annoying cough now. You know the one when you can't stop and then you actually dry retch? Hmm, must be the tail end of the cold. I'm still off work tomorrow, plan to go back on Monday.

My love and hugs to all :grouphug:

B xxx

Hi ladies

Megan - How exciting seeing that little heartbeat fluttering away on the monitor! I am so very pleased for you and happy that you have a plan and sounding very positive and confident. I really hope that you have a very normal and boring pg :pray: in the absolute best way of course!

Beata - bummer about the cough, but hopefully you'll be into full recovery mode very soon. And great news about Diana. 25 weeks - it's amazing how quickly it has gone!

AFM, faxed my leave of absence request off today to uni - yay! Feeling more relieved already! Saw my GP this morning. All good news. Ultrasound showed everything normal - how I love that word :dance: when it comes to physical stuff. B/t were excellent. FSH has plummeted back to where it was 3 years ago before my first IVF cycle. LH and estrogen are also excellent and put me right on track for the follicular phase of my cycle. My GP reckons on O in about a week or so, which by my calculations will likely end with a period due around Ryan's EDD. I think that is amazing that my body has done this. DH thinks it's just a coincidence. We're so different when it comes to that sort of stuff but so similar in so many other ways. I guess that's what keeps it interesting!

So now we just wait. I think I might go back to temping (am I crazy?) to see if we can catch this eggie. :crossfingers:

My GP also gave me a script for Tamiflu and a heap of masks to wear on the plane trip next weekend. Apparently swine flu is so common in the UK that women are being advised not to fall pg because of the risks. So I have a dose of drugs with me just in case I am unlucky enough to catch it. I am hoping my immune system is in pretty good shape, I have run into at least 2 people this week who had high fever with sore throat/dry cough which are the key symptoms and so far so good I am not sick. Just a headache but I think that has been stress related... I can be a bit of a worry wart :rolleyes:

Anyway, take care all. 5 working days to go...
oxo

Cheryl, you are well on your way hun!!!!!! Yay for all your great results! I am so happy for you hun. It is amazing though how everything is falling into place with Ryan's EDD approaching. I am like you, I don't believe in coincidences too much :rolleyes:
Pleeeeeeese take it easy hun and wear that mask! You can't be too careful I say. 5 more days to go, woohoo!!! I am sooo jealous hun!

A big hi to all my other lovely girls, and I hope everyone has a great weekend :grouphug:.

AFM, feeling almost back to normal, except m/s has kicked in big time. I so don't want to complain because I am so grateful for this pg, but I am such a sook sometimes!!! My DF has bought me ginger beer and some travel sickness natural remedy stuff, apparently OK to take when pg. I really hope it works :crossfingers:

Love and huge hugs to all and lots and lots and lots of :bluedust: & :stickyvibesgirl: to you lovelies.

B xxx

Cheryl, well done for getting the leave for uni in. Does that mean you finish uni for the semester before you go away? Also, great news on all the tests you've just had, really really positive. I say forget temping at least until you return from holiday. What's this about expecting AF to arrive, hopefully you catch the egg this O and get a special holiday baby! Is there any reason why you can't try this time, or does the Dr want you to wait a cycle?

Beata, glad you are starting to feel better. I can relate on the m/s front, although I am better than I was a week or two ago. Try ginger tea as well. Great news about Diana, I am so pleased that her cervix is 'under-control'. If your reading Diana, I hope you are feeling more relaxed & can enjoy the pg (I know that's easy to say :D)

I am starting to feel very 'fat', unfortunately I had a bit more weight on me this time when I fell pg and my tummy has popped out really quickly this time, last time I didn't show until 14-wks (although Jas was 2-wks behind in size), and I am already showing!! I just look really fat rather than pg at the moment, and given noone really knows I am, makes me feel worse iykwim? Anyway, I shouldn't complain, its the least of my worries really.

Hoping all of you ladies are doing well. Baby dust to those ttc & sticky vibes to those UTD :D

Hello Girls,

Cheryl, Well things sound like they are moving along very well and with the weight lifted off your shoulders from Uni you can really relax. Not long now till your holiday! How exciting!!! oh and please be carefull while your away!!!:hug:

Beata, I hope your feeling better soon, I know how you feel with the cold but it's worse not being able to take anything for it.

Berry, I'm so pleased you and bub are doing well and i don't blame you for not being able to keep the smile off your face after seeing that beautiful heartbeat!!

Well AFM sorry i have been MIA, I've had a long week, AF came and went, DH has been home all week sick (My goodness men are suck sooks when they're sick!!):rolleyes:, I still have a cold and it's driving me mad, I've also been flat out all week at work, can't wait till Monday...ahhh a day off!!! oh well off to bed now i start at 6am tomorrow.

:hello: to everyone out there and lots of :pink-babydust: and :stickyvibesboy: to everyone

My love to all :grouphug:

Hi girls

Thanks for all of your support through my never ending cycle :hug: I know I probably did my fair share of whinging :redface: Anyway, I am feeling much happier and positive now that I know what's going on... Now to catch this eggie. But DH is travelling this week for work and and will be away for 3 days/2 nights. I really hope that I don't ovulate while he is away :pray: That would be unfortunate timing. As for ttc this cycle, my Dr didn't say not to try, in fact she gave me the masks and Tamiflu just in case I am pg when we go away. So I am back temping again, and doing OPKs to try to maximise our chances this time around.

We have been busy this weekend preparing for our trip. DH has just come back from the shops loaded up with heaps of antiseptic hand cleanser and small first aid items as well. It's not like him to think of those things, so I am very pleased that he did.

It's been nice to pack up my study stuff now until next year. It has felt like a load has been lifted off my shoulders. Now to get the washing and ironing finished so I can put my feet up!

Samcougar and Beata - hope you are over your cold quickly.

Megan, don't worry about what people are thinking. It's not important. They will know well enough in a few months time why you are looking a little heavier than usual.

:hello: to everyone. Hope you are all having a great weekend.

oxo