TTC after Recurrent Miscarriage/Stillbirth or Loss after the first trimester Sept '07

Hi Jlk. Nice to see you here.

Well ladies I am not sure if this is the thread I should have posted in.

I can see alot of you have had stillborns and for that I am deeply sorry.

I guess of recent times I have come more to grips with my m/c's as I know that m/c is definitely better then a stillbirth.

I just had a d&c on the 31st of August 07 for what appeared to be twins (identical). This is the 2nd lot of twins I have m/c, one set before the pregnancy of my son Lachlan. Now he was a very eventful pregnancy with lots of red profuse bleeding and huge clots were passed, but amazingly he is here.

I have been having a hard time trying to deal with the fact that I have lost 4 babies now and I am so confused as to why my body keeps producing them if I can't obviously carry them. So I am praying and hoping for a single healthy non-complication pregnancy, when I fall pregnant next. Although my gyno has mentioned of my high risk of having another twin pregnancy but doesn't ever believe they will be successful.

I have been beating myself up that I have a healthy son (other then some major issues with severe reflux) and I should be ever so grateful and I am but why do I still hurt. I know there are people out there far worse then my situation which makes me feel guilty for being so sad at times.

I thought I wouldn't feel so bad this time as I have proven I can have a child whereas the first time there was always doubt if I could ever have children.

Anyway sorry if I have posted in the wrong area and sorry again to those who have had stillborn babies. It touches my heart that life can be so cruel at times.

Love to all.

Hey Sheree

You are most welcome here, & I am so sorry for the loss of your twins, I'm sure the other ladies in this thread will welcome you too, they are the most supportive bunch I've ever met!

CeCe - How dare that woman say that to you! Some people......

Klee - Any news?

Kat & Mel - How are you both?

Hello to everyone else!

morning ladies, gee there is a lot of catching up today.
CeCeSays - how ignorant of your so called friend, you did well to keep your composure. we know violence is no option, although i'm sure a pie in the face would have sufficed, so i guess next best thing is wit, just go with whatever your thinking, don't regret it because people don't regret what they say to us. i don't know if that helped at all
sheree - welcome, i am so sorry for your losses, don't think you aren't welcome each loss is a loss no matter how far along we are, all our babies are much wanted and thats what makes us all the same, and with you a loss of 4 would be disheartening to say the least. i hope to see you around a bit more

i'm sorry ladies but i'm going to have to keep you in suspense a little longer, couldn't get app til this afternoon for the results, i'll get mel or kat or someone to update you this afternoong cause i wont be able to get online tonight. i had a loverly weekend, yes loverly, lol don't know where that came from, spent most of it supervising the boys making a chicken shed, which in all likeliness has fallen to pieces, it was quite entertaining to say the least. mil said something interesting though, i was taking the dog for a walk just me and :) and she said hello you three, i went huh, maybe she knows something i don't yet. i feel like crap though y'day i had a cold, now today i've got a pain in my throat, its an odd feeling, not really a sore one, just in one spot.
anyway hi to everyone else, i will get back on shortly and do a catch up, mel and kat yours will take a day in itself lol

hi jo, how you feeling this morrning? feeling ok? i saw that you were down late last week, hugs to you hon

Hey Klee, glad the weekend went well. Wow maybe MIL does knows something, some people seem to be able to just feel something sometimes.
I'm feeling a bit better at the moment, just a bit lonley i guess, living in a small country town where there are no support groups, I guess i'm finding it hard to find people to talk to!

I'll have all my fingers & toes crossed for this arvo! I so hope its positive!

we are here anytime you need to talk, i can pm my phone number if you like, if you ever need to chat. it would be difficult in a small town not having the support groups as such. have you thought about ringing sids or bonnie babes or something? just to have that outlet?
thanks hon, the test the dr did came back with a faint line, but she seemed pretty positive, but i just don't want to jinx myself iykwim

Welcome sheree! I am so sorry for your losses. I will be thinking good thoughts for your recovery both in the physical and emotional.

Jlk-- I understand the isolation thing. I was born and raised in Texas and am living in a small country town in Ohio while my husband goes to seminary to become a pastor. We will be in this state and away from friends for 3 more years. I'd offer to take you out for tea, but the 18 hour flight would be a bit much. Hang in there hun, you are a survivor and have a great heart.

Klee-- I am super excited for you! Its still Sunday here in the US so its nice to have good news just in time for sunday dinner! I am sure you know that most doc's offices use pee tests that are somewhat cheaper than the otc on you can buy at the stores. The ones at the hospital I used to be a nurse at test pos at something like 125 MiU. Just in case you might be worried about a faint line at the office. If you had saved all your pee pee for the doc and brought in one from drug store to pee on in front of them it prolly would have turned almost black I am in NO way wanting to jinx you but I will be that irritating woman who reminds you to celebrate when the news comes.

As for me.. I am over the rude bitty from y'day... I am peeing on OPKs and hoping against all hopes that I ovulate sometime soon. Its funny how I can be so opimistic for you all with ALL sincerity. And I am just a bit negative about my own chances of success. I, personally, love seeing the pregnancy tickers-- makes me feel like there is hope, even for me.

Blessings to you all!

thanks cece - i did aks her what strength she used, she gave me a funny look, i couldn't think of the right word to use, she said the ones they use usually show up around 1 to 2 weeks late so must be like you said, so i guess that was reassuring to hear. i am feeling a little nervy today and making myself feel ill, this might make you laugh i think df has been turned into a piac addict, he asked me this morning what my line was like, i hadn't even considered doing one this morning until he asked me.
as for the being negative about your own chance, i think we are all feeling that for ourselves, its fantastic to hear when its someone else, but you just get thinking maybe it wont happen, sort of a i don't think i'll ever be happy mentality, i think we just have to turn it around and get thinking maybe it will happen, i know thats easier said then done though.

klee-- making yourself ill? hmmm. Feeling yucky is a GREAT sign! I am so happy for you and for future reference, I have a LOT of wonderful happy ended stories from working Labor and Delivery that started just like yours. The same wonderful women I cried with months earlier.. I cried and cheered with when they delivered healthy happy bundles. I am praying for you. I hope thats ok... I am a praying woman. If you need to let this all soak in... thats understandable.. but just know that I am cheering for you alllll the way across the world :)

Hi Sheree and welcome.. it is a stillbirth and reucrrent m/c group so you are most welcome here. I only post on the Den and here now lol.

Cece I would have been cometely dumbstruck at a comment like that. I guess until peole have walked in our shoes then it means nothing to them.Good luck with approaching O :)

Klee ah my, making us wait.. and yeah Drs tend to use a 50miu test which is why they hardly ever want to see pateints until they are a week or two late. With Ethan I had no line at all in the Drs rooms and yet my beta 20 mintues later came back at 143 ....

Jo I don't talk to anyone about Annabelle or our TTC. Nobody understands so I just don't bother. I don't have a big circle of friends so no party plan parties fo rme lol.. I'd have nobody to invite. We are only 7km out o ftown but you have to go up a high hill/small mountain then down the other side and it puts people off.

Kat how far out of town are you? You sound to be a ways out.

Aunty M how are you?

How is everyone else? I am past O now. Had pos OPK on Satruday morning, afternoon and Sunday morning with a negative Sunday afternoon and painful O pains so done deal now wait. My worry though is lack of fertile CM so I am wondering if that is why we have not got a BFP. I am going to look up the cost of preseed ready for next month. I know I see the RE on Wednesday afternoon but I am pretty sure he won't say anything other than for my age to keep trying.

hugs
Judy

ok, sorry ladies i am being a bit selfish today, but i know this question has been answered before but what levels should I be looking for/at with the results this afternoon? considering the test was taken on 19 dpo. ok so only a couple of hours left now, then we will know for sure, c'mon already

Hello Beautiful ladies!!!!

Welcome to the best thread in the world new comers!!
Sheree- Your story sounds as sad as all of ours. One thing that hit a spot with me was how you said you get confused because your body can make the baby, but not carry it... Welcome to my world!!!
I have concieved without troubles three times. I have lost in the first, second and third trimester for all different reasons. I know that i had aniticardiolipin antibodies in my most recent pregnancy (My daughter Zahra, lost at 36 weeks) but there is no explaination for my miscarrage or for my sons organ abnormality (my pregnancy was stopped at 18weeks as he was not going to make it)
And after hearing about your successful pregnancy, perhaps a test for anticardio could be on the cards for you as it is a blood clotting type issue thing.
And please, never ever ever talk down your saddness and your pain. Take it from someone who has lost at every stage, it hurts all the same. Our pain is not measured by weeks or days, it is universal love and you no doubt have felt the same sorrow as all of us,no more and not one bit less. Big Hugs to you and welcome to our world.:grouphug:

Ellie- If you are still lurking, please dont be afraid to come in and just talk... it says TTC thread, but as long as we dont mind you can stay i think. I lurked around for months before i felt ready to actually start trying again!! The ladies are all very supportive, and its this kind of support we need to help us get back on the horse and try again. (when we are ready... you are doing what is good for you by waiting) i know i needed to spend time in the pregnancy thread becuase i was still sort of dealing with how i handled my pregnancy with Zahra. Even tho i wasn't pregnant, it wasn't hard for me to rememebr how those women were feeling in a pregnancy after a loss, and i still had some issues to talk about becuase those feeling were still so much in my heart.
And then once i was ready to start trying again, i already had my support network here and waiting, coz they were the gorgeous ladies who helped me to feel better!! So i just wanted to let you know that if there is anything you need to let out, you are welcome to do it here!! :)

CeCe Says- Hello!! I am soo sorry that your friend was so insensitive. You did well not to bop her one over the head! Now to me, a nice thing for her to have said would be "Thank you for the maternity clothes, how are you coping with all of this today? If you need anything or i can do anything to make you feel more at ease,please let me know." But hey- thats just me. i hope your nice clothes give her a rash too!! As far as what to do at times like these, i tend to just start crying or walk away. And i have to admit, i dont think anyone has been that insensitive to my face like that. In your case i might have said REALLLLY loudly, "Oh yes, i wouldn't want my miscarrage to put a damper on your day!!! How rude of me." and see what happens from there, but i can be a bit of a sh#t stirrer sometimes.
Good luck with your OPKs, i am getting my first delivery some time this week, i have a brand spanking new digital thermometre and i have no idea what i am supposed to do with either of them!!?? i will be doing alot of peeing while i figure them out!!! Maybe we can help eachother out!! LOL (and no- i am not peeing on my thermometre, thats just silly, or is that what i am supposed to do?? LMAO LOL)

Jo- it is sad to know not many people will get the chance to see Storm, i would be honored too to see her if you would like me to. Not many people have seen darren either, maybe we could show eachother. I would have to figure out how to scan pictures etc, actually i would rather do it in person, face to face so we can really share and cry and hug and be there for eachother, but failing that i will find a way to scan pictures in here, i would like to have one of Zahra's pictures in here too, i am sure there is somewhere to put them where we can look at them. Lets try and work something out soon.... I do remember now you saying that you spent time with her, i think i had just missed exactly how far along you were when you lost her. Did you have any trouble being allowed to take her home and bury her, i remeber the dr's saying either we couldn't or we didn't have to for Darren. I think i was that much of a mess i was more grateful to have it out of my hands then to worry if i was honoring him. Looking back now, i wish i had done something more significant with his body. Does that sound weird?
I too know your feelings of isolation. Small towns are great, but they do get lonely and the chances of finding someone else in your shoes is highly possible, but not highly likely. just remeber you have us, and you can share your most insignificant thoughts with us, (at least i hope we can, coz i do!!!!) and your most deep and sad thoughts too. But i guess too its like what i was saying before, its nice to have someone right there with you who is there for you who can really hug you and be there face to face. And it weird sometimes when we post and then we may have to wait a few days for a response... i have combatted that by swapping numbers with a few of the girls so i can text them and get that support back right away. If you'd like i'll pm you my number and i will be there whenever you need me!! :hug:

Auntie M Hellllloooooo all the way in America!!! I just saw the last episode in the new Dr Who series, they defeated the evil Time lord and saved the Dr!!! Go MArtha!! I'm not sure when the next one will be on, i may have to go down to the video store and rent some of the old ones, i am a new fan.... but i like it so far!
Your description of how the bad days get on top of you is exactly how i feel!! Well actually everything you said was spot on. Thankyou!
How are you feeling today? Is your morning sickness still reminding you everyday that you are on your way to success??? How are your plans and decisions going?
Big Hugs to you from me, while your journey will be hard, it is one that will be worth the wait! Take care!!

MEL Hello stranger!! I have been off the planet a bit lately! (Whats New?) but i am feeling much better. I had a great weekend, we spent most of Saturday doing exactly what i wanted (watching telly and doing nothing!!) and we went out for breakkie on sunday and then went to see some friends. Still waiting for my tests to arrive (they would only have recieved my mail order today, so i'll give them a few days) and then i am going to the dr next week. I have noticed you have been missing from here again, is everything ok? Did you go back to work at that place again? Big hugs if you have! Hope all is well with the family! Take care!!

KLEE i have left you till last coz i am still pacing and waiting to click on those green men. Sore throat in one spot hey??? I like the sound of that!! Making yourself sick, i understand that!! So I am inpatiently waiting...... Sending all the vibes i have your way!! Its beautiful that DF was asking how strong your line was, i think that is gorgeous!! Are you leaving work early today? i am filling in time, but i was silly and started posting first and i cant pm while posting or i loose the post (found that out the hard way!!) But i started this about 2 hours ago!!! I am gonna check if your still here, and if not, i will be here late tonight and i would love the honor of making any announcements needed. BTW have you got my pressie yet?????/

Wow, that took ages!! I bet i have missed some posts while i have been typing this novel!!
Hello to anyone i have missed.... love to all!!
StarBright!!
xoxoxxo

Tapping fingers *** twirling thumbs *** I feel like I should be pacing the floor waiting for Klee's results! LOL!

Just a quickie from me, I'll be back real soon!

Ha!!! i knew i'd miss someone!!!

Judy, how are you my love? Have you ever heard of Mullumbimby? Its called the biggest little town in Australia. Billinudgel is a stones throw away from there. It's north of Byron Bay. There are a few small towns on the coast called Brunswick heads and Ocean Shores which have shops and banks etc and they are only 10 minutes away and Mullum is inland about 20 minutes away and in amongst all of them are mountains ranges and properties. And tucked in amongst all of them is a little town called Billinudgel. We have the Pub which i work at, the local shop, the post office and, um..... well... thats about it. There are a few industrial buildings, but nothing too exciting. Everyone knows everyone from Mullum to Brunz to Ocean Shores and Billi. Its one really big community!! Its really pretty here, and when i used to live in the mountains i lived in a little shack with next to no electricity and i had to heat my water up in a drum over a fire. But i looked over the whole valley and i could see the ocean and it was so peaceful. Now i live on the road between Mullum and Billinudgel, im around the corner from the pub, but still on some land. And we have electricity now!! You should have seen us when we first moved here, we were light switch crazy!!! We have chickens and ducks and we have two sheep being raised for us to have soon. Plus our dogs and cats and fish (which is sadly just one now, we had a casualty) I have to go to ocean shores for my weekly shopping but thats about it. If i ever want to do some real shopping i go up to Tweed Heads with my mum, but other than that, i am usually happy in my seclusion. Its all pretty craetive and full of peace loving hippies who talk to red neck farmers and we all seem to get along pretty well.

Where are you?

Would anyone be interested in organsing some sort of get togehter?? This is the first internet forum i have ever been part of, and i wouldn't normally go around wanting to meet everyone i have met on the net, but while this is all so close to all of our hearts i would love to really see all of you and have a day where we could all share our stories in the flesh, am i being too sentimental?
Let me know what you think!
Love StarBright

Thanks Starbright..I'm still lurking!

Klee????? twiddling thumbs here too.... in between hassles from a houseul of high maintenance guests...

Wow Kat that sounds like an idyllic life. We have a mountain getaway we go to that has no electricity other than a generator but as it is inside a National park we can't run it for long.
A meet up would be fun but no way could I make it over :(

I knew it was too good to be true.... ***sigh** I'll try again to post tomorrow
hugs
Jude

howdy everyone.
Ellie- hope the break is just what you need!
CeCeSays- lol on the sex in the bathroom comment! seriously, though, i think humor is one of the best ways to deal with it, if you have the wit. i can't manage that. i usually just look at people like they are crazy, and walk away. i suppose the healthy thing to say is "wow, that really hurt." then at least they will know, and maybe perhaps some will care. there is no protection, really , from hurtful comments.
Sheerejoy- i'm so sorry for the losses of your four angels. your love of your four angels is no different than your love for your son, and it is so right to grieve them.
Jo- my town is small too, i drive hours for a once-a-month support group that is canceled every other month due to no one to show up. honestly, bb is better. :) and i found a counselor who has also lost two children, so i can call her when i am desperate for someone to understand me.
Judy- here's hoping for you this month! am still tired and m/s, so am not crazy with worry yet. i am scared to go to the doc, though.
Kat- lol re peeing on the thermometer! if i figured it out, i know you can too!
Klee- ???? i'm madly calculating the time zones to figure out when i should check back. my electricity is from solar panels, and we don't have quite enough panels, so i try to keep the computer off as much as possible. but i so want to hear from you!

we had a lovely fall weekend up in crested butte, with loads of color and blue skies. went to a friend's wedding, and did so well until the ****tails after. so many babies and mommies and daddies. and then one lady and her baby i hadn't seen since we were both newly pregnant last year. couldn't stop the tears and had to escape for an hour or so. why can't i just be happy for others without being sad for Yeti and dh and myself?

Auntie,
If you didn't get upset everynow and then and didn't miss your little Yeti... thats when I would be worried about you. The hardest day I have had since losing Eli was the happiest moment for the rest of my family. My twin sister delivered a beautiful baby a little over 6 weeks after we said goodbye to ours. My mom lives with us and has since her stroke in '01 .. so I had to reaaaalllllly work on putting on a happy face while she celebrated another grandchild's birth. Its hard to deal with the dark sides of our hearts sometimes... envy... hurt.. and that not so publically accepted kind of grief that isnt contained by a tissue but soaks your shirt in tears and chafes your nose from snot. But ya know... red chapped noses and red eyes ARE beautiful! You are beautiful... because you are willing to be real. I can't imagine the balancing act it must be to grieve the loss of Yeti and celebrate a new miracle. I want to have that chance one day. And if/when that time comes I hope I handle it as well and REAL as you do! Hugs from Ohio.

goodmorning ladies, sorry to keep you suspended lol, those two beautiful girls mel and kat wanted to leave it to me to give the news, ok so here goes, ok breathe, its a bfp, we have a little "joey". i don't know why but i've been calling it that since we got the first faint line, joey as in baby kangaroo, i really have no idea why. just feeling very hesitant at the moment, so want to be excited, just realise there is a long road ahead. they didn't get the levels just checked whether or not i was. sorry bit of a selfish post again, i will do some personals later.

whats this about kat p'ing on the thermometer?, lmao have to read that

:happyforyou: Yay Klee! CONGRATULATIONS

Oh Congrats! Klee - how exciting so pleased for you. :happyforyou: :happyforyou:

Thank you to all for the warm welcomes. I am still trying to get to know everyone so I apologise for not directly replying to everyone, but I did read and was nodding my head so much it wasn't funny.

AuntyM - I see you are pregnant, I hope all goes well for you, my thoughts and prayers are with you.

I am the same though, if I fell pregnant again, I am sorry but I really can't be positive, I will just take each day as it comes and see what happens. I was so confident this recent pregnancy and I was miserably dissapointed. I know that is really bad not to stay positive, but I just don't feel that I can. So I know where you are coming from.

Starbright - I was really touched by your message, thank you so much, you are a wonderful lady.

I feel so welcome ladies and just wanted to say thank you. I look forward to getting to know you all. Mwah

WOOOO HOOO KLEE!!!!!!!!!!! I am so excited for you! I don't know how to do the green dancing guys but I am thrilled to see you have a BFP! Here's info on Hcg levels.

An hCG level of less than 5 mIU/ml generally indicates you are not pregnant.
Week from the Last Menstrual Period (LMP) Amount of hCG in mIU/ml
3 5 - 50
4 4 - 426
5 19 - 7,340
6 1,080 - 56,500
7 - 8 7,650 - 229,000
9 - 12 25,700 - 288,000
13 - 16 13,300 - 254,000
17 - 24 4,060 - 165,400
25 - 40 3,640 - 117,000
Pregnant women usually attain serum concentrations of 10 to 50 mIU in the week following conception. A max is reached by the second to third month, followed by a decrease in the third trimester.

** AFTER about 6500 MiU the doubling takes longer than 2 days so DO NOT FREAK OUT if that starts to happen. ( I did) **

Good luck hun and, if its ok with you, I would love to pray for a healthy Joey in the months to come for you.

Blessings!

Congrats Klee! So happy for you :D

:happyforyou::happyforyou::happyforyou::happyforyo u::happyforyou:

thanks so much ladies, this is only the first step though. cece hon - i would love you to pray for me, we need all the help we can get. i just hope and pray we can get through this one
i am not going to disappear on you ladies, I am going to hang around, not so much like a bad smell, well possibly, you ladies have been my lifeline. thank you my sweethearts.
heres to many more bfp's from here in the next few weeks

Klee :happyforyou: :happyforyou: great news hun.

I'll be back.. busy busy just wanted to say congrats to Klee.

Judy

Klee - you better not disappear on us! LOL!

Congrats Klee!!! Wonderful...just wonderful xxx

Klee - I knew it!!!!! ;) 19dpo and no af!!!! I am so excited and happy for you babe. :happyforyou: :happyforyou: Yes this is only one step and there are soooooo many more steps to go but celebrate this little step. Wishing you all the best - the road will be bumpy but just know that I am here if you need :hug: Big big congrats babe to you and DF.

I think Im close to Ovulation... but my OPKs arent quite pos yet... but goodness do I have EWCM. Its really thick though.. so I am thinking its time for cough meds. Do any of you have any tips on these wretched OPKs? I am driving myself bonkers. I wonder if the EWCM means I will ovulate tomorrow or today? I am a little crampy. I sure hope we didn't miss the boat.

Blessings,
CeCe

Good morning everyone!

wow it's quiet in here, looks like it's gonna rain here (hope so) but I really don't want it to rain on the weekend cos we are going camping for 3 days!

hi jo, sorry had a lazy morning, only just got to work. looks like its going to rain here too. i hope not for the weekend too, we have a wedding to go to on sat. how you feeling today?
hi cece, sorry no tips on the opk's, i didn't trust mine this month, just trusted my body, cm and temp signs and look what happened lol. have you done anything different that would cause so much cm?

Hi Cece, as you get closer to O it is often a good idea to two OPKs a day, one around 11:30am and the other around 6-7pm. You can get the odd cycle where the surge is so quick you can miss it by doing one a day.
Having EW can mean O is about to happen but also can be several days before O. The common/layman thinking on that is that sperm can live for up to 5 days (or longer) in fertile fluid so therefore you want to have some beforehand to increase the odds of survival. That way when you do finally O you have a few still surviving.
I watched a documentary (I have the link if anyone wants it) and it shows how it is necessary for teh sperm to spend some time in the fallopian tubes as there is an enzyme produced there that they need as 'armour' to help penetrate the egg. It really is quite interesting how it all happens. no wonder life is such a miracle.
So long as you can BD every 36-48 hrs from just after AF then you shouldn't have to worry about timing or signs. Some experts reckon that 36 hrs is optimal.. but on FF software when you do that way it gives a pattern like my chart this month and FF only gives a 'good' rating. It doesn't know that BD was at midnight and O was around 2-3pm the following afternoon so about 15 hrs... TMI probably lol. I know we should have BD once more Sunday evening but honestly I was too tired and thought after all these months it hasn't happened so not likely it would make any difference so I rolled over instead and went to sleep.
hugs all
Judy

Hi I'm new to this thread. A little bit about myself (my favourite subject me) just kidding. I thought I might come in here and lurk as I'm not sure where I fit in anymore now that I have had Nathaniel. He is 12 weeks old. He is my 7th baby. I have 5 living children, 4 of whom live at home with us now. I have an intense desire to have just one more baby (I know just one more I have said that before)but that's another story. Anyway I think my body is reving up to ovulate (first time since Nathaniels birth) I have familiar ovulation type pains but no EWCM so it could be a false alarm. I have been temping but because I dont always get a whole night of uninterupted sleep it may not be that accurate. Our DD 3 was concieved with help from the fertility clinic IUI first attempt. Noah and the MC at 10 weeks were natural conceptions and so was Nathaniel at just 35 days after Noah's birth. Looking forward to sharing a conception journey with you all.

:happyforyou:

That is just wonderful news Klee. I am just overjoyed for you.

Lv Spring

Hi Ladies,

Im sorry I havent been around, step-kiddies are here for the week cause of school holidays and have been busy busy busy. I am struggling with them though, trying my best but finding it really tough. I would love to say I am superwoman and can handle everything but its just not the case :redface: I think because of all this hormonal stuff going on inside me, I guess its only gonna get worse when the injections start.

Before I go, Klee I owe you a couple of green men :happyforyou: :happyforyou: :happyforyou: Dont you even think about leaving this thread, we have already lost enough people... plus, we have a plan you know ;)

Smiley - Welcome to the thread, congratulations for you for Nathaniel's safe arrival and also on the decision to TTC #8 :)

Hi to everyone, I really do apologise for my lack of personals and not being around. Will be back on board next week when the kiddies go home.

Mel :hug:

P.S. Is it just my lack of motivation at the moment or are kids always so darn messy... I have given up tidying now cause as soon as I tidy they mess it :rolleyes: They have always stayed with us on holidays but I have never noticed it to be this bad!

I had my positive OPK at 1 am here. If I hadn't been crazy enough to POS one more time I would have missed it. Its just barely one shade lighter this afternoon (its noon wednesday here). SO far so good I guess on timing. We BDed CD 12 CD 14 and will tonight on CD15. The excess EWCM I can only guess is from my body gearing up more than usual? I don't know. Here's praying we catch the egg.

So who is in the tww? I am ready to read more good news.

Blessings!
CeCe

Smiley - welcome

Mel - glad to see you back, and yes kids are always messy! LOL!

CeCe - Hope you caught that egg

How is everyone else?

Good morning all

Well I have more pains again this morning but on the other side now. Still no EWCM so we wait. I think my body is trying hard but still not cutting the grade just yet.

KLee- congratulations on BFP. I hope to hear more anouncements soon

Cece - I hope this is the month for you. Just a quick ? what are the cough meds supposed to do ?

Hi to jlk and angelicdragon