TTC after Stillbirth/ Recurrent Miscarriage or Loss after the First Trimester May 07

Hi girls

Thanks for all your reassuring words over the last few days. I have had a tough time, just so worried. Anyway, I have had heaps of movement today so for the moment it is panic stations stand-down. I don't know how I would survive without you all and I can't wait to be the one telling all of you that it is all going to be ok.

Lynn, good luck tomorrow. I'm rooting for Hope too (lol) (IYKWIM)

Bailey: Boy you are the DTD Queen this month. That eggie has no chance of escaping, I am so looking foward to seeing you and everyone else next weekend.

Tommysmum: What wonderful news about your scan. The countdown to the NT scan is on. I hope DH is feeling better, it is horrible having those sort of bugs, sending *get better* vibes his way.

Deb: I am so glad that you had a nice day yesterday afternoon and last night. You deserve some time out with your friends. How are you feeling? Any sickness? I remember reading in an earlier post of yours that you don't get m/s, I hope you escape the big mean m/s monster this time also.

To everyone else I hope that you are ok. This will be a big weekend for all of us and I guess I just wanted to say that I think that whether you have earth babies or angel babies, you are the most amazing group of women and mothers that I am so blessed to have met. I know it is hard to say, and even harder to hear, but Happy Mother's day to each one of you. :grouphug:

Lv Spring

Hey Spring,
Thats great that Lil Spring is moving around lots today. I cannot believe what a naughty little bub he/she is already :D Always giving mum and dad stress! As I said in the last post, listen to yourself and trust it. This baby is coming home. Isn't it strange that we can be so confident for everyone else yet so convinced it will all go wrong for ourselves? I am so sure that Lil Spring, and Lil Flowerchild (we might need to call 'Flower-bud) will come safely, but I know that if I was pregnant, I would be totally freaked out!

Hey everyone,

Bailey - Thanks so much for the piggie, you are so sweet :hug: Surely we are all gonna get our bfps now! Positive thinking right? I have it sitting on my bedside next to my big rose quartz... :fingerscrossed: for us all. Re TTC - have you been DTD every day? :doh: you must be so over it, no offence to our DHs or anything but you know, a girls gotta rest ;) I hope you get a postive OPK soon, promptly followed by a positive HPK!

Spring - Ya poor bugger, I can imagine how stressful and frustrating everything is - I know I will be the same. Try to relax though, everyone is right that you cannot feel as much movement at this stage in pregnancy. Nothing will say is going to help you relax though is it? I think you will be stressed like this until you meet lil Spring in the flesh. Damn and you cant even have a stiff drink to calm your nerves LOL. Look after yourself, maybe a nice warm bubble bath will help when your feeling anxious, and may also get lil Spring moving around - Nicholas used to love that (not too hot thought remember).

Lynn - It was great speaking to you last night too. I feel better after a chat too believe me. I am really glad you are going to be positive and only worry about what is going on right now, as I said there is plenty of time to worry about all the other stuff - one step at a time :hugs: And hey with the golden piggies surely we have it in the bag?

Klee - How are you feeling? I hope you are ok. I am just about to have some dinner (better late than never, I am starving!) and then I will reply to your email.

Deb - Sounds like you have a fantastic night with great friends. I hope your friend is doing ok, and glad to hear your feeling UTD :lol:

Tommysmum - Glad to hear you had a wonderful scan.

Hi to everyone else.

Well we have the kids tonight but they go home tomorrow night for Mother's Day, which is probably a good thing considering the last thing I want is to be looking after someone elses children on Mother's Day when I cant have my own.

The lady at work who I told about Nicholas, the one who gave me the wallet card, asked me to go have a cuppa with her at afternoon break and so I did and she said the reason she wanted to talk to me was to see how I am about Mother's Day. She said she can only imagine how hard it is but she knows how much she misses her mum who passed away 10 years ago on Mother's Day so she cant help but think how agonising it must be for me to be without my child. OMG it makes me feel teary that there are people out there as kind as her, but then people we know cant even acknowledge my pregnancy let alone my baby. She said that she wants me to make sure DH and I do something special together because although he is not her I am still a mum and deserve to have a great day. What a very special person she is, I am so thankful I told her now - she has made me feel like maybe people do understand how hard it is for us.

Oh and as I left work my supervisor said well I know you dont have kids but Happy Mother's Day anyway... talk about rub salt in the wound!

Well might be back later, but I am very tired so maybe not.

Love to all,

Mel

Hi Tommysmum - we did not get any answers as to why I went into labour early. There were no warning signs, no infection, no placental abruption etc etc. The doctor said they had no idea and would monitor me closely if I got pregnant again. I have been reading up on some things and it could have been incompetent cervix I think or high stress levels?? I am just grasping at straws to be honest - I will probably have to go on bedrest with another pregnancy but will wait and see what happens.

It is so good to hear all was well with your scan today - i hope the next 3wks just fly by.

I have a quick question - do you think pregnancy symptoms can occur as early as 6DPO? I have been feeling really sick and my nipples are burning today!! Could this be wishful thinking? We were not supposed to start TTC for another 3mths but it would be a fantastic 'surprise'.

Enjoy your weekend everyone - good luck with the u/s Lynn.

And finally before I go off to bed - Spring - so glad you are feeling more and more from lil spring!!

Oooh Tess,
I don't know if it is possible to get those symptoms 6dpo, but it certainly sounds promising. Flowerchild will probably answer that one. Good luck!;)

I think it is wishful thinking as we decided to not use protection on Thomas' EDD. I will try to forget about it all until next weekend (8 whole days - good job I have no HPT's in the house!).

Will keep you informed if the symptoms persist.

Hi Tess

Did you get a 2nd opinion as to what may have happened ? Could it be that you need a "stitch" ? To be honest i have no idea about any of this stuff but i have heard of a couple of cases (where mum went into labour at say 25 weeks) and all they needed was a "stitch". Don't know how you find out if you need one or not (i guess some sort of internal/exam etc). I have a friend who had her baby at 25 weeks (no reason was given as to why it happened) - her baby survived though (just) but not without several operations to heart, eyes, body etc. I must say though he looks fine now (he is 5) but still has a couple of visible reminders. I think he was just a lucky one - i am not trying to upset you about this - just trying to help. I hope an answer is given to you (or some possibilities of what may have happened). Did you do an autopsy on Thomas (if you did i am guessing all was fine)....

Symptoms 6 DPO - not sure about that one although when i tested for this pg (had those feelings it came up Neg but then i tested a week later and it was Pos). So why not wait a few days and see if you still have those symptoms - go and get a HPL - :pray:

Mel - Wow that lady from work sounds very compasionate - these are the people we want around us hey ! It is great to know that people want to know and learn and why not share it i say. Pity about the supervisor (she did know what happened didn't she ???) though - no tact.

Bailey - 10 weeks - going very slow i tell you - goign to be the longest pg on the planet ! Yes still sick - almost every day i feel something - i nearly threw up the other day (first time in all pg's). Not to mention that i wet my pants a lot (when i sneeze). So what is going on with you - do you want the "calendars" i use - remember i have fallend 3 times by using these withint the first 1-2 cycles. This is the only thing i have ever used and i swear by it !

Yes - the S&K meeting is on next Wednesday but it starts at 10.00 this time (as you know we chat sooooo much). So i will pick you up around 9.15am. Last meeting was good - there was supposed to be another mum turn up but she didn't make it - hope she comes this week.


Hello and good luck to everyone else. Will be thinking of all you special mothers on Mothers Day - i know it will be sad but our babies will be watching over us tomorrow. Will talk to you then anyway.:grouphug:

Hi everyone,
:happyforyou: SPRING!!!!!! That Lil Spring has been a real monkey! You don't know how much I have wished this week I could reach through the screen and give you a big reassuring hug. I can truly appreciate just how damn tough these days have been for you...

Bailey: You must be exhausted with the bd fest!!! That egg is surely cornered with no escape route!

Tommysmum: Yay on the u/s - your first trimester has flown by (for me at least I am sure it hasn't felt like that for you...) I hope your DH is feeling better... :hug:

Mel: That was such a lovely thing to do (the lady at work) what a special woman... That was a hard thing to hear from that oof at work... Sorry my love... Have we had a positive opk yet???? If not it will be just around the corner.

Tess: the symptoms you experience in the tww are due to the rising progesterone. They are very similar to pregnancy symptoms. Pregnancies dont' implant until 5-10dpo (the dpo varies). Then it takes time for the hcg to rise. So it is unlikely that your symptoms are caused by hcg. However, they could be caused by the rising progesterone caused by pregnancy. I hope so very very much that a :bfp: comes to your house this month... :hug:

Well, for the first time in pregnancy history for me I nearly through up this morning. I was so excited! (I am a very easily excited person obviously! ;)) I feel very ordinary and so tired... All good and there are no complaints from me. I want lots of positive pregnancy symptoms to help me through this time.
It's raining here today and chilly. I have a few hours to myself and I am going to go and have a kip I think. I will pop back later on... :hug:

Lynn: I am thinking of you today so very much. I am hoping that you get the news you need today... :hug:

OMG!!! Finally some good news......................I think I deserve it!

Est level 575!!! I have never been over 300 until this cycle and now I am at 575! I can't believe it. I nearly crashed the car when she told me the number!!!! I just wasn't expecting it! Ok ok, just breathe, breathe, calm down. Well I am little bit excited, trying not to be too excited but I just feel like this is it! I just have a feeling that finally my life is going to turn around for the better and feel that this is the start. I don't want to jinx myself so maybe I shouldn't be saying it, but it is how I feel. I also feel very very sick. I think it is because I am nervous and scared because I just have so much riding on this.

I am continuing on the 75 dose for the injection and then I am going back on Monday for another bt and then depending on what my levels are the IUI will happen tues, wed or thurs.

God I feel sick!! And my heart is racing - ok, I am going to breathe now :)

sorry for the lack of personals but I will come back later when I am breathing!

:happyforyou: WOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!

What a wonderful day today is!!!! Go follies go, go follies go, gooooooo follies!!!!!!!!

This is the start of wonerful things Lynn.

But do remember to breathe! We need you to breathe!!!!!! :hug: :hug: :hug:

Yay Lynn:confetti: That is great!!

I will come in later and say hi, I am meant to be working - well for another 15 minutes at least. I just wanted to congratulate Lynn - oh and Hope :D

That is fantastic news Lynn!!!!! Come on Hope do your thing!!Just so excited for you. Take care and yes do Breathe....haha

WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO WHOO HOO

Those levels are absolutely senstation Lynn. I knew Hope would pull through. I am glad to hear that you are feeling so positive. Considering your cycles are usually so long, it is great that the levels are that high already. I think that Cooper was giving Mummy an early Mother's day pressent.


Deb: Ok another Whoo Hoo for you, I know it is weird saying I am happy that you almost spewed but I am sure YKWIM. I hope that those symptoms keep getting stonger. Yay 6 weeks tomorrow. That deserves a happy :dance:

Mel: People like the lady at your work restore my faith in the kindness of strangers. What an emotional time but also a lovely thing for her to do to take time out of her day to talk to you about how you are. I am glad the kiddies are going home and you will have tomorrow to yourself, I hope you are ok.

Tess: I am not sure if 6DPO is too early but hey, if you feel different to how you usually do at this stage in your cycle then it has to be a good sign. I am sending as much :bluedust: I can your way.

Bailey: if you are at CD 24 then the countdown is on to HPT-a-thon. I hope so much that you get your BFP this month.. LOL about DH thinking he is a stud. How have you been feeling otherwise? I know you were having a bit of a rough time recently so I hope that you are feeling a bit better. Oh and a really belated birthday babe for while you were away. Thinking you could hid it from the BB detectives Tsk tsk.

Well DH and I have had a nice day. It got off to a rough start though. We went to the shops this morning and I broke down into tears whilst trying to chose which flavour jam I wanted. As I was walking into Woolies I saw all the Mother's days flowers and I made it to the Jam isle before losing it. DH gave me a big cuddle and just let me cry. I was very embarassed but he kept saying just ignore everyone babe, it is just you and me here. I got myself together and we got what we needed and promptly left. Oh and for the record we got Fruits of the Forrest Jam (lol)

Other than that we have been curled up watching DVD's. Just took the dogs for a walk and I am about to have Apricot Chicken that has been in the slow cooker all day for Dinner. I think that I have been so upset in the lead up to Mother's day that I will have cried all my tears by tomorrow.

Oh well, I got in here and got all the good news including Lynn's results and I feel a million times better.

I'll pop in later to catch up quickly.

Big love and Hugs to all.

Lv Spring

PS Lil' Spring was having a ball today. Moving around like a real little acrobat. DH should be able to feel bub soon which will be great. Once again, thanks for helping over the last few days, I felt like I was losing the plot but I am so happy to have your girls pulling me through.

Hi Everybody
(you all chime in"Hi Dr Nick!) - Sorry, bad Simpsons joke!

Lynn - Are you too busy in bed to join us? :dance: I hope so!

Spring - Jam choices are often hard to make. Are you OK? I didn't think that I would feel so down about mothers day as I do. I remember the feeling at christmas time, doing all the chrissy shopping and trying to be happy and all I could see was little babies everywhere and baby stuff and I felt like cr@p. That's kind of how I have felt about mothers day. Your hunky DH sounds like such a fantastic guy, you two are so lucky to have eachother. Lil Spring, give your mum a big kick for me. Not really sure if I will be testing soon, I have been doing the OPK's for nearly 2 weeks and they are still not giving me a positive. Oh well, I guess more BDing is on the cards for me;)

Tommysmum - Yep, I'll be coming on wednesday, it seemed to come around really quick. I am really looking forward to going. Glad to hear you are feeling so sick :) I know it feels like it's been going slow, but you are already a quarter of the way there so when you look at it that way, it's not so bad.

Flowerchild - Glad to hear that bub's is giving you a hard time...I mean that in the nicest possible way of course. We will have to come up with a nickname for your little one.

Tess - Have you given in to temptation and tested yet? Or are you going to go against everything I have learnt from this thread and wait a sensiblw amout of time before you test? Lol, you would be the only one. Good Luck!

Mel - I was just thinking, when is your FS appointment, is that next week or have I missed it completely? Ouch on the comment from your superviser....I wouldn't have known what to say. I had one of those comments on thursday from a rep through work that I hadn't seen since I left on maternity leave last year she said "Hope you have a nice peaceful mothers day, though that would be impossible with two now wouldn't it?" Well, um no, actually.......and you guys all know the rest. Poor bugger, I think I probably ruined her whole week. Lol, ha ha. Hey, when are you going to come up to Sydney for a weekend? We should all plan a weekend, and I can book a hotel in the city and we can all do dinner and have a slumber party....ooh, that sounds fun!

Hello to everyone else....where are you all??

Well, I am on about day ten million of my cycle and still no positive on a OPK.:wall:
I am hoping I will still Ovulate and for some reason OPK's don't work for me....does anyone know if that is possible?? I would hate to think I have been having all this sex for no reason. Lol - jus kidding, poor DH.

Just wanted to say Happy Mothers Day to all if you wonderful Mums. I know that tommorrow will be a sad one for us all, but we are all still mums and so it is still our day.
I hope you all have a nice day :grouphug:

~ HAPPY MOTHER'S DAY TO YOU ALL ~

On this day we remember, when others may forget;
We are still mothers, though our children are at rest;
Our job is one of the hardest, others cannot understand;
But we will get through today, holding each others hand.

Love to everyone,

Mel :hug:

"A Mother’s Love cannot be measured
by increments of time …an entire lifetime
of love can be squeezed into a few brief
miraculous moments when necessary…."

To all of my treasured friends and your angel babies, Happy Mother's day.

With love and friendship.
Spring :grouphug:

Hey guys:grouphug:
Just checking up you all. How did everyone do today? I was a little sadder than I expected. I am not usually into the 'hallmark holidays' as I call them. But I think that this one was harder than I thought. Though hubby got me a winter coat that I had my eyes on, and it was a complete surprise cos last week I told him I do NOT want anything for mothers day. Other than that we just hung around at home. Still no positive on the OPK though.:dunno:

Hello ladies

Wishing you all a happy mothers day - i know it has been hard today but our babies are looking down on us sending us all lots of kisses and cuddles.

Those poems are beautiful too, just lovely.

Personally i had a nice day spending it with family down at a park in Coogee. Only one friend last night said "i will be thinking of you tomorrow". Wow - but that was it. The family that i saw today were all those at xmas (the day Tommy died) and they were the only ones at the funeral. I haven't seen most of them since then and nothing was said.

I got a card (and small pressie - i am not into all this stuff really) from DH and DD and i did hope that it would say Love from....DD and Tommy but it was just from DD. I did hope that Tommy would have been mentioned but i guess then that it may have to set a precedent for everything (b'days, xmas etc)...so that is ok.

Thinking of you all today !

XX Tommysmum :grouphug:

Lynn - so glad that your levels are going up - you must be so excited - that is a fantastic Mothers Day present for you - i am soooo happy for you. Finally some good results - it is so good to hear something positive around here hey - and i think it is going to spread to the other mums here very soon.....get bedding girls !;)

Hi Tommysmum - thank you for your post, you did not upset me. It is wonderful to hear that your friends baby survived at 25wks - they are so fragile at that stage it is such good news. We have not been to see anyone else about what happened - the doctor we spoke to 6wks after the event said he had no idea what happened but if/when we get pregnant again we are to see him asap as he will monitor me fortnightly (I think he meant my cervix - via u/s.) I have read up a bit about incompetent cervix and a stitch or 'cerclage' can be put in at about 16wks - but it seems to be that the way to find out if you need the stitch is to be monitored and if the cervix starts opening early they put one in (or after a second preterm). We are going to wait and see what happens if/when we get pregnant again. It may have been stress or something else too.

We did not have an autopsy as at the time we felt that as Thomas was alive pre birth it was not him that was the cause and we did not want him to go through an autopsy. Sounds silly now but at the time when all this happens so unexpectedly decisions are made quickly and not always sensibly.

Lynn - those levels are fantastic I am sure this is the start of good things for you too.

Flowerchild - I am sure you are right about the symptoms - my problem is that I do not know what a 'normal' cycle is as I have PCOS and my cycles are very different every time. The only reason I think this cycle is different is that my last one was 28days and the last time that happened I got pregnant the next cycle around. (Hope that makes sense) Still feeling very tired and nipples are very sensitive - I am sure it is just a lead up to my period as my moods have been vile these last two days - poor DH.

Bailey - I am going to try to wait until at least 12DPO (next Wednesday) at least before I try a test. Will let you know.

Well I have to go as my MIL is on the phone and wants to talk to me - will catch up with the rest of you later.
T.

Happy Mother's Day to all you special women. You are all beautiful, wonderful mothers. I hope today was ok and you got through the day without to many tears.

Hi everyone,

I hope you all got through yesterday ok. I was thinking of every one of you and your angels. I lit a candle last night for all of us and our angels.

I was just wondering how everyone spent the day and if you received anything special.

I spent the day in my trackies under a blanket in front of the TV. We had 6 videos to get through! I saw my mum on Saturday which she had suggested so that I could do whatever I wanted on Sunday which was a nice thought. My mum came over yesterday to wish me a happy mothers day and gave me a Chrysanthemum plant which is Cooper's flower (for November). I told DH that I didn't want anything but he got me a card. He said that he sat with it for over an hour trying to work out what to write and everything that came to mind just didn't seem right so he let the card say everything and just wrote Love Cooper. My MIL gave me a beautiful card and a beautiful gift. A friend from the S&K group shared a quote with me "Where are you going we asked, To dance amongst the stars he smiled". It is just beautiful and I shared it with my MIL. It reminded her of a tape recording that she has when DH was 3 singing twinkle, twinkle little star. He didn't know all of the words and he says "Trinkle, trinkle rittle star, can you come and dance with me" She gave me the recording and called it a song for Cooper. On her card she said that she had found a little song that Cooper's daddy sang so many years ago and it seems so special now that Cooper is dancing with the stars. It is so cute and precious. DH and I cried when we heard it and it made us realise that we would never teach Cooper nursery rhymes, but it was still a beautiful gift.

I hope today everyone can find a smile :grouphug:

Oh Lynn,
That is so beautiful your card from Cooper. And Dh's song, how cute. I was ok yesterday, but worse than I thought I would be. I cannot stop thinking about Chris's (confusedegg) family and what a hard day mothers day must have been for them. It is just not fair is it? I hope you are feeling good today and that Hope is getting ready for the big week ahead of her. Are you going to the S&K meeting on wednesday? I hope to see you there.
Kel

Hey Bailey,

I was absolutely devastated to hear about Chris. It isn't fair is it, it is just so cruel. I'm sorry that you had a difficult day yesterday. It is just so hard isn't it.

I am ok today, not feeling very well. Not sure why but feel like I am going to be sick. Maybe I am just nervous about the results today.

Yes I think I will go to the S&K meeting. Are you going?

Hi everyone,
What a blanket of sadness that is around us all with the death of Chris. I find it hard to get my head around this... It seems so unreal. LIttle William will never know his beautiful Mama that fought such a brave and courageous journey to bring him into this world. She will be playing at last with her two Angel daughters...
Fly gently dear Chris...:hug:

Lynn: Your post made me cry so hard... That beautiful song... What a special, special family you have... :hugs: I know yesterday was very hard. I think Cooper has sent a special gift for you and that your results will be wonderful my love... I am thinking of you very much today... :hug:

Tommysmum: I am glad you had a nice day at Coogee and I am so sorry that Tommy wasn't mentioned... People can find things so hard to cope with sometimes and it hurts... I am sorry... :hug:

Bailey: Yay on the winter coat... I am glad you got thru Mother's Day... :hugs:

Tess, Mel and Spring big hugs for yesterday...

I had a beautiful day and was very spoilt - more spoilt than I have ever been on Mother's Day. DH said I deserve it (and of course he is right! ;)). It's been a tough couple of years... But I kept rubbing my belly yesterday and hoping and praying that this baby is okay and will stay... We took the kids to see "Meet the Robinson's" which traumatised DS6 who couldn't cope with the orphan factor and traumatised DD3 who can't cope with loud noises! Not a great success! We had a lovely lunch and then I went shopping for some new clothes... Very spoilt. My DH brought me a gorgeous native tree to plant to remind me of the new life growing inside me. Blueberry Ash - it's native to our area and is one of my favourites...

I will pop back later....

hello all,
Well, yesterday was not too bad for me, although I had DH & the kids working very hard to keep my mind off things!
The present i recieved was beautiful, a garnet ring (Storms birthstone) I love it!

It seems i need to put off ttc for a month or so as my iron levels have fallen very low, so I think I'll try and build them up a bit first!
How is everyone else!

Ok I feel really really sick now.........................I am so nervous and scared!

Just got the phone call from the clinic - est 985 and LH 45!!! That is the surge I have been waiting for! It is all happening tomorrow. aghhhhhhhhhhhh :dance:

Oh Lordy!!!!!!!! How exciting LYNN!!!! This is IT!!!! So tomorrow is IUI time????
Congratulations Lynn - you so deserve this. How big were those follies???? :happyforyou: :happyforyou: :hug:

Thanks Deb!

Trigger tonight and IUI tomorrow morning. The follies were around 16 on Saturday. They didn't measure them today because we know they are there just needed the hormone levels to get up and they did! My god I can't believe I am in the nine hundreds for est!!!! I have never been over 300.

Just another WOO HOOOOOOO from my my love. I am so incredibly happy for you... :hug:

Yay Lynn,
That is the best news I have heard in a long time :D I am so happy for you. Though, can I ask, what is the trigger and IUI?? I am assumong it means something like they trigger Ovulation? It sounds great anyway. Congratulations!
:dance: :dance: :dance:

Bailey a trigger shot is HCG that is given to trigger the follicle to release the egg.
IUI is intrauterine insemination. The sperm is washed and only the really handsome ones are used! Because the sperm are put into the uterus they don't have as many obstacles so the success rate is higher.

Hey girls

Firstly can I say Lynn that is just so wonderful news about your levels. I can't belive tomorrow is it. I am so glad and happy for you that these trigger shots seemed to be just what your body needed. It is great to hear that wonderful news.

Well now for the sad stuff. I am just in a fowl mood today, I can't seem to move this dark cloud which has been circling me all day. My mind keeps going over and over about Chris and her family. I never met her, but I just feel so affected by this, a real reality check on mortality. I know it is a little selfish to dwell, but I don't know what else to do. I guess helpless is the best way to describe how I feel.

I am also really upset that yet again nothing for Mother's day from MIL. I know it is insignificant in the scheme of things but a card, my god I'd be impressed by an email, but nothing. I said to DH I doubt she even thought of me today because she doesn't consider me a mother and he said that I shouldn't read too much into it. Apparently when he was speaking to her she asked how I was. Wow, I should be estatic I know. I just feel so low, not sure how to get out of this mood.

Anyway, might pop in later
Spring

Thanks Flowerchild, I thought I had the trigger thing worked out. Wow, about the IUI, isn't it amazing what can be done these days? I didn't know they did that. I am positive that Lynn's DH has lots of hansome swimmers to choose from :D

Lynn - So with the IUI which Deb just kindly explained to me, do you still need to DTD as well just to be sure? I am so excited for tomorrow for you and Hope! I am definetly going to S&K on wednesday along with Tommysmum, I hope to see you there so I can here all about it.

Spring - I have been thinking alot about Chris too, I was telling my mum about her today and then i just burst into tears. It's just horrible. It's more than just sad isn't it? It's just not fair. I am sorry it is getting you down. Same with the MIL, I am sure she just doesn't think - though she can't keep using that excuse for too much longer! Try not to let it get you down.

Hi to everyone else, hope you are all well.

Well, still no action on the OPK....what a surprise. I wonder if they just don't work with me. Well I guess I will just have to keep using the hubby till AF arrives or I get a + HPT.

Deb - thanks for helping me out and explaining the IUI to Bailey. We will be forever grateful for the technology they have now, won't we. Your tree sounds beautiful and perfect :hug:

Bailey - yes it is amazing what they can do, for which I am forever thankful. Otherwise I don't know what I would be doing right now! Yes we have been told to DTD as well so there are more chances. No + opk!?!? What CD are you? Perhaps have a bt to see if you have ovulated. I'll see you on Wednesday :D

Spring - I am sorry that MIL has upset you again. You just need to ignore her and surround yourself with people that care..............like us :hug: We all thought of you on mother's day. It is terrible about Chris. I just don't understand how bad things happen to good people.

Jo - your ring sounds beautiful........such a treasure. Even though you are not on the TTC journey for a while, still pop in and let us know how you are going. I hope your iron levels pick up soon and you are back joining us on the bumpy TTC journey :hugs:

Hi to Mel, Nat, Tess, Chelle, Tommysmum, Sarah, Klee and Alex - hope you are all well.

Well Lynn what the hell are you doing here woman?? Get to bed and :bd: !! Lol, it's so exciting isn't it? I hope your DH has lots of handsome :sperm: as Flowerchild said. I cannot wait to hear how it all goes tomorrow. Can I get a BT at the GP to test for ovulation or do I need to go to a gyno or OB?? I never really thought of that, thanks for the suggestion.

Hi Girls,

I didnt know about Chris until today on my afternoon break when I had a few spare minutes to check BB and saw Lynn's post about it, checked the thread and OMG that is so unbelievable sad :( I cant believe she has been through so much to meet her little man and now wont get to see him grow up :crying: It makes you realise that you just never know what is around the corner and to make sure everyone you know knows how you feel about them. Anyway, I didnt know Chris either but I feel such immense sadness over it, what she has been through and for her husband and son. Here I was sitting there on Mother's Day feeling sorry for myself and look at what was happening!

Spring - I am sorry you are feeling so down :hug: I really do think your MIL is just void of emotions and I just dont think you should stress yourself about her, I know it hurts but you have alot of people who love you and would do anything for you - us here being some of them :)

Lynn - Will be checking in with you tomorrow, we can update each other ;) I am so unbelievable excited for you!

Bailey - Maybe the OPK's just dont work for you, if I remember there was another month there where they didnt. Hopefully O is long gone and implantation is pending!

Hi to everyone else, Klee, Deb, Jo, Alex, Tommysmum, Tess, Kristee (think thats most people hehe).

Well I have my FS appointment tomorrow YAY! (Bailey you didnt miss it) I cant wait to talk to him and I am so hoping that he will be able to offer me some method of getting UTD cause I am getting desperate LOL.

Oh well I will check in tomorrow and let you all know what happens.

Love Mel

P.S. GOOD LUCK LYNN! I will be thinking of you.

Hello ladies

Hope you are all doing well. Been thinking of you all and of course Chris, who i never "met" on BB. It is such tragic news isn't it. You are right Mel, we never know what is around the corner for any of us - when is our time up exactly ??? Just so sad. I was tossing and turning last night thinking about Chris and also about little Maddie McCann (the girl kidnapped in Portugal)...what a mad world this is.:(

Lynn - fantastic news for you - i am so happy for you ! It is good to hear something positive after such bad news. Come on eggies ! See you tomorrow (10.00am start)

Bailey - hope you are doing ok - perhaps those OPK just don't work....or perhaps you are already pg now...fingers crossed - it won't be long now !!! Will pick you up tomorrow at 9.15am.

Spring - I know you still want some positive attention from your MIL but perhaps it is just not her thing. There are many different people out there and don't we know it. Just look after yourself and little Spring and DH - that is all that matters at the moment.


Flowerchild - Blueberry Ash sounds beautiful - although i am not familiar with it. Does it flower at all ? Glad to hear you had a nice Mothers Day with the family.

Tess - It is difficult to choose whether to have an autopsy or not isn't it. If you have it then you may regret it and if you don't have one then you may regret it too. I guess we can only make those decisions (right at the time) at that point in time - you did what you felt is right and that is the best you can do. We didn't do one either - i wanted to at the start (only to find out if he had a genetic disease like my DD had) but DH didn't want to. Now we don't have any defined answers either and a part of me wishes "if only". But what's done is done i guess. I hope that you are doing ok (well better than ok actually) :hugs:

Mel - good luck on the FS today - i hope you get the answers/suggestions you are waiting for so that you can show us a BFP very soon !!

Tommorrow arvo DH and I will be picking up Tommys ashes - don't know how i feel about that yet. We have left it so long as we are extending and our place looks like a bomb has hit it so i didn't want him to get lost amongst the clutter....but we thought we better bring him home once and for all.

Love to everyone else - thinking of you all. XX