Babies Born February 2007 #6

[Tashie]

Hello
I went and saw the nurse about routines and feeding last week and she told me that our bubs can now have their food before their milk. She also said that we should give bub their milk within 30minutes of eating solids, so that they can get to know when meal times are and learn to only eat with the family. Both of these things I wasn't doing, so I am trying them out and see how Tobi goes.
Here is the routine that they suggested for bubs from 7.5months.
7-7.30am Breakfast (weetbix/cereal and toast, followed by milk)
9-10am Sleep
12noon Lunch (main meal with vegetables, pudding and fruit pulp, followed by milk)
1-2pm Sleep
When they wake up offer water in a cup and afternoon tea (finger food)
5-5.30pm Dinner (light meal followed by milk)
6.30-7pm Bath and bed
She also said that it is quite normal for bubs of 7-8 months still to be waking up at night for a feed. Since I have been feeding Tobi solids before milk, he seems to be eating a little better. Although in the morning this isn't happening as I am always bursting at the seams with milk ready to feed him.
As far as sleep times they suggested 12 hours sleep at night and 2 day sleeps. Sleeps during the day to be 1-2 hours and 2-3hours awake between sleeps. My tip for helping our little ones sleep is static!!! When ever Tobi is over tired, having trouble putting himself to sleep or wakes up in the middle of the night, we put on radio static in his room and this helps him tune out and go to sleep. As long as he is feed and clean, it works every time without fail. The vacuum cleaner works really well too.
Clapping and waving!! What clever bubs you all have. I have now idea how to do patta-cake and don't know the words to have of the lullabies and nursery rhymes. I am hoping that Gymbaroo will teach me all of these kids games, either that or I will have to watch more play school. Tobi isn't clapping or waving yet, but he does move his fingers over his mouth so it makes a funny noise. Its his way of getting Daddy's attention. It sounds so cute when he does it.
Kirsten - We got these great gates second hand (I think you can get them from BabyCo) for stairs. They pull out like a roll of glad-wrap (couldn't think of another way of describing it) and hook in the other side and then suck back into its holder when you don't need them. They are perfect for stairs or areas that you use a lot, as you don't have a gate getting in the way. We have one on our stairs and entry into the kitchen.
Catherine - That's fantastic that Elouise sat up on her own. Its amazing how quickly they grow.
Michelle - How is Isabella after her fall? It is so scary isn't it when they hurt themselves. Tobi fell out of his car seat one day onto the floor in the car, flat on his face. It was the day we changed his car seat around to face the front and we just put him in for a practise to see if he liked it (hated it the other way around). Turned our back for two seconds and then screams. It didn't exactly give him a good start to facing the front!!! And we learnt very quickly to always strap him in (well obviously when you are driving).
Kel - How did you go with the cup at playgroup? Did anyone notice how clever Jemima is?
Anyway, I have to go and shower before munchkin wakes back up. Hope you all had a good weekend.
Tash
PS. I put some photos of Tobi in my photo gallery.

[ChristieN]

Thanks so much for all that info Tashie. I learnt a lot and will be putting quite a few of those things into DS's schedule.

DS is doing ok with his two naps a day. We had a really disrupted schedule yesterday as we had to pick a relative up from the airport. Due to a flight delay it turned out we needed to get there right at DS's dinnertime. Needless to say there were a lot of tears and screaming in the car. Poor baby He did sleep through last night but I don't think thats quite the method I want to use to get a good nights sleep

I fed him a crushed up soggy Oatbrit for brekky this morning. He wasn't overly thrilled. What sort of cereals is everyone else feeding their littlies?

[Impatient]

Hi everyone!

Tash - Bella's fine. It only really bothered her for the few seconds after she hit her head, and she had a bit of a bump and a red mark for a day or so, but it's all gone now (thank god!). Tobi's a little cutie! Love the hat!

Christie - Isn't it sooo much fun driving with a screaming bub in the car! I read that we can start to give weetbix now, but we're still on pear and banana flavoured farex or plain farex with fruit mixed in at the moment. I might introduce weetbix when the farex supplies start to deplete a bit!

Us - EXCITING news girls! We FINALLY have our first tooth!!!!! Yay!!! I checked yesterday and could see the tooth under the skin, but no bumps or anything, so I figured we had a bit of waiting yet before it came through. Anyway, after swimming lessons today (more about that in a second!) my friend looked in her mouth and "Are you sure it's not through yet?", so in went my finger and there it was - a sharp little tooth!

Ok, now swimming this week was MUCH better! Bella enjoyed splashing, kicking and even doing the starfish on her back. She even had a little chat to herself and smiled at the other bubs. But when the swimming instructer did so much as LOOK at her, she cried! Even worse was when she held Bella while I moved over to the other side! Boy did she let us know she was NOT happy! lol Hopefully she'll start to get used to the scary lady and next week we'll have less tears!

Anyway, better go - my website is in need of some work! Have a great day everyone!

[Tashie]

Had to take my munchkin up to hospital last night. He had a temp of 38.5 that wouldn't come down with cold shower and panadol. His temp ended up coming back down before we got to see a doctor and it was after midnight, so we just left and he was fine when I checked on him through out the night. Its scary though.
Jayne - how did it go saying goodbye to your DH. How are you and your girls going with him gone? Been thinking about you. xxx

[smylie]

YIPPPPPPPPEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE BELLA!!!!!!!!!!!! Which toothy peg??

Tobie is such a cutie......... what was wrong??? how scary!

[~Jayne~]

Hey,
Sorry I've been MIA, my computer was in being repaired & upgraded so I can see Alan on Skype.
I'll write more tonight, but we have a TOOTH! I can't beleive it. I'm glad she hasn't tested it out on my boobies yet!
Love Jayne

[smylie]

YIPPEEEEEE CLAUDIA!!!!!!! which toothy peg?

seems like the week for teeth! Jemima's are now definately officially through so she has 4 up the top now and 2 down the bottom, and Jayne she is only NOW making things interesting when feeding she is not biting as such but kind of rubbing and it hurts..... enough for me to get cream out today to put on my nipples and grimace a little when feeding her tonight..... but i did find when jemima got her first tooth she did try it out once or twice and i just took her off and said no and it was ok

i am going to get her weighed tomorrow as it is her 8 month birthday and will see if she is back on the 75th line as she went down a line in weight when she was sick but stayed on the line she was on for height..... maybe i am not feeding her enough

she loves cruskits, if you havent tried them with your bub -- try it!!! puffbread or whateva they call it in your town are so good they disolve so easily even with her big teeth getting chunks off she wont choke! arrowroots biscuits she has finally figured out but only coz now with so many teeth she can almost control the size of the piece she bites off, before she was cracking off a big chunk and scaring me.

and yes the cup went well!!! one mum who has 3 kids (4yo, 2yo and 5months) said she was impresssed how quick jemima had taken to the straw as her kids had always chewed it.... the other mums were just jealous they had not thought of it first, i reckon all they need to do is try and they will see jemima not THAT clever ehehehehehe she gets the water so much faster out the other straw cup she loves it

so almost crawling but doesnt need to doing so much rolly pollying around instead but boucncing like a kangaroo everytime i pick her up and bouncing on her legs trying to crawl it is exhausting

the weetbix thing.... have heard that they are empty calories..... and that you should feed baby fruit for brekky...... i feed jemima farex and am going to give her weetbix as well tomorrow...... as for the whole bottle before solids thing...... this is so confusing i seperate bfeed and solids she has a bfeed on waking and then at about 7.30 (between 7 and 8am) she has solid brekky and then she has lunch at 11.30ish and then sometimes holds out for the bfeed until 2pm and then at 4.30 or 5pm has dinner solids and then after her bath at about 6ish she has bfeed and goes to sleep and then wakes me at some ungodly hour because she is still hungry..... help?

[smylie]

ps - kirsten - with quinns many teeth have you had any bfeeding 'problems'? how long do you think u will breastfeed for?? i have basically decided to keep going as long as Jemima wants it.

[~Jayne~]

Hey SMYLIE _ Claudia has one of the bottom middle teeth. She is ready to cut the one next door too because her gum is very, very tight atm. I think it' s been giving her some trouble so I've been giving her the frozen teething rings during the day & the bonjela or sedagel at night. Last night she slept from 8 - 3:30 which was a damn miracle. I'm hoping for another repeat of that tonight thank you very much. Everybody is putting down their routines, but I haven't because each day is different. LOL. I separate the breastfeeds to the solids as well, so we both can't be stupid. LMAO. I feed her when she first wakes in the morning, then usually an hour to 90 minutes later I give her some breakfast. Just lately she's mad on melted cheese on toast or it's pear or the heinz organics vanilla custard powder stuff made with ebm, say about an hour or two after that I put her down for a sleep when she is tired & grizzly, which usually by that time she's been up around 3 hours. When she wakes, I give her a feed again & do the whole cycle again with lunch (cucumber sticks & some yoghurt is her fave atm) about an hour or so after the breastfeed & then she goes back for a sleep again & I feed her when she wakes, play with her, cook dinner & put her into the bath, then bed. I don't put actual times in because it's different all the time.
Claudia is pulling herself to standing on the furniture. It's insane because we have hard floors throughout all the living areas! She just wants to get into whatever Jessica is into. It's been hard because I have to make sure now that Jessica isn't playing with a toy that has small parts while Claudia is on the go as Claudia is putting everything into her mouth, as babies do!
We start back at Jessica's swimming lessons tomorrow but Jessica is not well with a cold & Claudia has conjunctivitis! eeewww! Myself & my girls are so rundown it's not funny. We need to go stay on a farm or somethign in the fresh air & detox to get all the germs out. I'm getting lots of coldsores & the kids are getting sniffles but this cold Jessica has is a ripper & I'm pretty sure I have a sinus infection because I feel as though my face is going to fall off when I bend over. I've no idea where Claudia got the gunky eyes from but she is sneezing all the time today so I'm guessing she is getting a gold too! I'm loving the idea of the straw cup, that's hilarious! I'd love to be a fly on the wall with your mothers groups!

TASHIE _ Aw, thanks sweetness. I hope Tobies is okay, it's scary taking them to hospy. Is he ok now? We are going ok, the girls are keeping me busy & I'm not well so we are just focussing on getting better. I've been pretty busy so I haven't really had a chance to think about it much. We spoke last night but I haven't heard from him today. I just got my PC back & all upgraded with Skype so maybe we can talk on Thursday beacuse I'm out tomorrow night for dinner with my IL's. I WAS very teary when he left, but I've pulled myself together. I don't talk about him much to Jessica atm, because she isn't well & sometimes asks for her daddy to lay down with her & I just want her to adjust without him atm, if that makes sense? It's easier on me when she's not asking for him all the time.

well I best be off to bed & get my beauty rest!
Love Jayne

[ChristieN]

Second night DS and I have slept through and this time it wasn't caused by hysterical crying WAHOO 6pm to 5am I think food before milk really helped. He had a lot for dinner and then followed it up with a LOT of BM. I'm surprised the lil darling could lay on his belly to sleep. (yes I know they're meant to be on their back but he rolls onto his belly straight away and with our Angelcare monitor we don't need to worry so much anyway)

So I found another tooth yesterday. I had thought he was a bit drooly but his demeanor has been pretty good until yesterday afternoon so I checked for a hard gum/tooth and voila its already popped out He now has the 2 bottom and the top left front. Its a lil off to the side but I remember reading that sometimes the teeth will come down out of place and then settle to their rightful position. One to go then hopefully a break from the teething for at least a coupla weeks.

Forgot to write that had to take DD (2.5) to the emergency on Sunday. We were just about to have lunch and she runs in from her playroom and is choking on something. It ended up going down rather than coming out and only thing I could figure it might have been was a metallic button cover so we headed to the hospital quick smart. Turns out there wasn't anything metallic in her xray so we'll never know what it was. I'm keeping an eye out (she's still pooing in her diaper) but as I don't know what I'm looking for I'm not going to look too hard. Oh and when we got home and I had a bit more of a chance to look I found the missing button cover inside the couch

Enjoy your days

[Lisa]

Hi everyone

Hi Christie and Tashie and the gorgeous Tobi and Tyler Nice to meet you all!

I've been trying to read over all the posts I have missed... Gee you girls can talk!!! lmao

Just a question... is Harrison the only bubba without teeth?
I told my Mum yesterday that I think Harrison is going to be fitted with dentures soon!!! lol.
Surely with all the food he eats (and yep, he eats everything) nature would provide him with teeth to help him munch through all the foods he enjoys? Oh well, I am sure they will come in time. He has been drooling a lot and really red in the cheeks but without a temp, so maybe they're not too far away?

Nothing much to report here. Just the same really. Harrison goes to bed around 7pm every night, he will wake again around 4-5am to get into bed with us, and then he sleeps through until 7. He eats everything and anything. He loves tomatoes, right now they are his favourite thing. In the mornings, he eats rice bubbles with banana, then he has a bottle and a nap. Then he has a sandwich and fruit for lunch. Dinner consists of meat and vegies, or pasta and vegies. He eats whatever it is that we're eating, or he will have something specially made for him if we're eating something bad like pizza. Last night he had some lamb cutlet... he really loved chewing on the bone!!! He is definitely his Dadda's boy! lol

Well, I will do personals when I have caught up on everything.
Thanks once again to everyone who supported me through the last few weeks I am doing much better now... and I found out the other night that I am going to be an Aunty again!!! My littlest sister Cassie is pregnant!!! She is over the moon about it... it will be her first baby!!! I am wondering if she will break the girl drought in our family? But I am thinking it might be another beautiful blue bubba in there.

[mummycate]

Congrats to all those bubbas with new teeth! Elouise is still yet to have hers pop through, and I think she's the oldest, born 2nd Feb. So don't worry Lisa. And congrats to your sister!

Elouise's routine changed to one for older bubs, I just gave it a try and its working.
Bottle 275ml and yoghurt 0700
Bottle 275ml and fruit or veg 1200
Bottle 275ml and fruit or veg 1700-1800
Total of 15 scoops formula.

She slept all last night so it was a case of her being hungry when she kept waking. Coz night before last DP went and got her a 3 scoop (165ml) bottle which she drained and slept for the rest of the night.

AF must DIE!!! Sorry, just I hate the cramps and the mess. Stupid pads keep moving and I have to keep changing undies. p!ssing me off!! Ok hormone rant over now...

[Tashie]

Hi girls,
Tobi still isn't eating much, only really eating yogurt at the moment. His temp was up again all day yesterday, I let it get to 38.9 before I gave him some panadol. Went to the doctor and she said to just keep an eye on him. Today he woke up crying and has a blocked nose, so we might head back to the doctor again this arvo. If this is his way of telling me he is teething, I am not looking forward to when he is really sick. I think he is going to be a big sook like his Dad.

Catherine - Sorry to hear you're not feeling too comfortable. I hope they are over and done with soon. I haven't got mine back yet. I guess I should be grateful, but without having them for over a year, I just want to feel normal again. I am on the mini-pill though, so whether or not that is making a difference I dont know.

Lisa - Tobi doesn't have any teeth either. I can't believe Harrison is eating all that food without teeth. I am looking forward to that stage. Tobi hates lumps and if he finds one in his food, he wont finish his tea.

Christie - Have fun in your poo search. I am sure it is going to happen to us all before too long. Especially in our case. My DH is hopeless with leaving things lying around. I keep telling him to start learning now before Munchkin can move, but no luck. I have two children!!!

Jayne - I hope you and your girls feel better soon. I have been asking how the other defence Mums handle their Dad's going away, something I am not looking forward to. They suggested using a calendar or even advent calenders and you mark off a day together each day until your DH gets home.

Kel - I wouldn't worry too much about Jemima's weight chart. Tobi has dropped a line too in his weight and he hasn't been sick or anything. The doctors told me not to be concerned. All babies are different and I know mine doesn't sit still. She'd let you know if she wanted more food. I am going to get some crustkits today. I am also going to try and make my own rusks. I have been lazy so far and bought all our baby food. You can get Weetbix for kids that have added iron and other stuff in them. I tried one a Tobi a few weeks ago, but he wasn't interested.

Have a great day everyone
xxx

[Tashie]

PS. I think Tobi talks in his sleep. I heard him talking last night so I got up to check on him and he was sound asleep!!!!

[Kirsten]

Cate: Quinn is the oldest, he was born 12:13 am on 1 feb He has 8 teeth, I am used to him being the youngest all the time, he is the youngest in mothers group the others are all a month to 2 weeks older, but he is the biggest!! Last weigh in he was 9.88kgs and 75cms.

Kel, Quinn has his moments with biting nipples, sometimes he does a test bite which at least gives me time to say NO!

Ooh woken up
Hi everyone else

[mummycate]

Thanks Kirsten. There's so many of us its hard to keep track! El talks a little in her sleep, more like murmuring. She's so happy and active its great!

[Ca Plane Pour Moi]

Hi girlies. I concur, Lisa, these ladies are chatterboxes!

I got Liebs to sleep through the 8.30 wake up for the first time in about 6 weeks Monday night. Then yesterday DH came home from work with manflu (I've had this but still no time off, still baking even!) so DS's routine was butchered as he doesn't want to sleep with Daddy around. He's shifted his morning sleep to about 11-11.30 start; this means he has an afternoon nap around 3pm. Which is playgroup time today. Ah well, he can go to sleep there or if he gets grumpy I can leave early.

DS occasioinally bites me, usually when he has finished and I'm not paying attention (just a nip to remind me what I'm supposed to be doing) or when he's nearly asleep and he's latching off but just wants a quick suck. It's not a malicious bite so doesn't hurt, I barely notice it now. He has 3 teeth now!

Wow, you poor mummies with hospital visits! Liebs loves playing with buttons and I'm dreading him swallowing one - he has a load of buttons on 2 strings of elastic (for safety) that he loves to chew.

Lieby has dropped weight as well as a line in weight; it's nothing much to worry about but I'm now letting him eat biscuits and my baking too. He still prefers apples to fairy cakes, so I feel happy in that.

I wish Liebs talked in his sleep, he snores like a monster instead!

[ChristieN]

G'morning all,

I had another good nights sleep. By George I think he's got it YAHOOO OK I'll stop talkin bout it now coz I know those of you that haven't yet succeeded a full nights sleep are proly cursing me

Tashie - That’s so funny that you said, "I have been lazy so far and bought all our baby food." I have been exactly the same and only this week I've started making more of an effort and actually pureeing a small portion of our dinner for DS. I always put it off because it seemed too much hassle. I'm glad I'll no longer be filling the trolley with all that baby food. I was always conscious of it LOL I'm a lil paranoid :P

Kirsten - You're lucky for the test bite. DS went through a phase of biting me. He hasn't done it for a while so I'm hoping it was a phase and he's done with it. He would sometimes get this 'look' on his face just before he did it but other times I wouldn't get any warning. He drew blood once. OUCH!! uch: I ended up hovering my free hand nearby so if he did bite I could shove a finger in quick smart. Maybe he gave up trying as each time he was foiled :P
Just an idea but you might want to say STOP instead of NO. We put off saying NO to my DD in an effort to avoid her saying NO to us because once they start doing that it IS infuriating.

Ryn - isn't it funny that the things that most interested the littlies are so often not good for them. Like buttons and plastic bags. That’s cool that you found a safe way of having him play with the buttons, I might try that.

OK off to get something achieved.

Ciao