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DTD...not done it yet....2 weeks have passed and its odd for me not to have jumped back in the sack yet..LOL...i guess its cos i still have stitches...or i think i have them still??
Amanda i worry bout falling preg again so soon too....im way to fertile so it happens fast for me.
Sarah PND is on going....but so far ive not had it as bad as i did with the girls....im in control this time!! Xavier is a big boy WTG :)
Zach is still in 0000 and they swim on him...he is so tiny....i have him in a 000 suit today and its way to big. Craig works from home so he wont ever be back in an office...im very lucky.
BBL....im off to Centrelink for some stupid payment appointment
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so is expressing milk fast a sign of having an oversupply, because mine comes out really fast too but I don't think quite as fast as yours does. Also how do you know the difference between fore and hind milk?? Haha regarding you being too selfish to elimintae food!! We've looked at the wetsite of the local baby place and they have swim nappys from 5kgs. Do you think this is cos they shouldnt be in the water before then or just that there isnt too much demand for it?
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grrr I just lost a big post!! But Steph has already asked one of my questions and that was about fore and hind milk.
My other question is that I got some fenugreek today and on the bottle it says its to treat colds etc...nothing about increasing milk supply, this is still the stuff to take isn't it? The chemist lady knew thats what I wanted it for.
Also is 100ml from both breasts enough to be expressing at this stage? Is that how much milk Harley should be getting each feed from the bottle? I was happy to have him on the breast but he just never seemed to settle, and it is just hard for me to know how much he is getting so I'm just expressing most of his feeds now. Just hoping that 100ml a feed is good enough for him!
Also I don't know if he has reflux but he seems to be doing a lot of power spewing, it goes everywhere, and comes out his nose my poor lil thing. He does seem unsettled after a feed until he spews, so just don't know if its reflux or not. Maybe a trip to the doctor could be good...
I had a list of personals I had typed up so will do my best to say the same thing again...hate losing posts!
Kim: Ur so lucky that Craig works from home, some days I wish Rob did as well!!
Jo: So happy for u that Ruby is a good bub!
Victoria: Also happy that Harrison is going real well! U poor thing with the heat, all u southern girls are copping it bad, hope it cools down real soon!
Amanda: Big hugs hun, hope u are feeling real well soon and that JD starts to settle better for u!
Steph: Hope u have a great trip away, and with the pool, I wouldn't start till about 4months but thats just me...and by the looks of things, Harley won't get to the pool till next summer!
Sarah: Hope ur supply slows down for u! Yeh I had the question about fore and hind milk for u, how can u tell the difference? I have no idea!
Big hellos to everyone else and hope u are all well and same with ur beautiful bubbas! Hope the weather down south cools down real soon as well!
Take care girls
Deb :)
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Deb i feed Zach 100ml of EBM (but it only lasts 2 hours in his tummy then he needs more)....or 100ml formula and lasts him 4 hours and a goooood long sleep :)
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Deb 100ml is great for a feed at this age, and while it only lasts 2 hours like Kim has said, its because its much more easily digested so breast fed bubs will feed more frequently. WTG
Jo
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what i refer to when I say settling is when he is crying or screaming for what ever reason. Wind, lonely, scared. I try everything, check his nap nap, give him a fed, burp and rock him, kiss him and talk to him and sing to him, give him tummy time. And sometimes he still cries and cries and it makes me feel so helpless and anxious. He looks like he is in so much pain or discomfort and nothing I do seems to comfort him. Yesterday morning it was an hour before he settled after a fed, that was ok I could handle that. But yesterday afternoon he took an hour and a half to settle and I was shaking and my chest was tight and I felt dizzy by the time he finally settled. Just out of the blue he stopped crying and his eyes were shut and I just broke down into tears. Thank God he did not wake up again till after DH had come home, we had had dinner and I was showered and into bed so I didn't hear his next fed. My DH did the late fed and the early morning fed today so that I could get a full night sleep. I feel so blessed to have him share the load with me. I was in bed by 10pm and did not wake up till 7am. Thats 9 hours sleep. I still feel a but scared about how I will cope if he plays up for as long as he does but after all that sleep I do feel a heap better.
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JD is sometimes happy with 80-90ml then sometimes he wants up to 150ml, we just see how he goes and if he still hasn't hit that milk drunk phase and still looks for food, then we give him some more. This does mean that we may heat up a bottle for him and he only takes 20ml and leaves the rest and depending on the room temp we either throw the rest or leave it at room temp for next top up. I personally would rather throw it than risk the milk being too cold. but sometimes its only an hour or so before he is fidgeting again and we use that to re-settle him and cross fingers that it works.
P.S. I express once in the morning and once in the evening. Sometimes I miss the evening. I get about 100ml to 125ml from each expression (both breasts together). I think my milk supply is slowing because I am also feeding formula. It just seems he perfers the formula and we only give him the breast milk as a desert after a bottle of formula if he still seems hungry. Nurse says thats ok, and so I am not worried. I will also chuck him on the breast after a fed if he just needs comforting and that seems to work. I love breast feeding, it doesn't hurt and I find it quiet lovely actually. It just doesn't seem to be enough for him that all.
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I know what you mean. I love breastfeeding as well...its so connected and beautiful.
Have you got a sling? Maybe JD just wants a cuddle. I love the sling for this reason, as I can have her with me but still be able to potter around a bit. As you can imagine with 5 chilluns sometimes I need my hands!
Jo
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Well I went to the Dr yesterday to talk about my anxiety etc. Dr is going to try and get me on a Medicare Subsidised program so I can speak to a physchologist (SP) over a period of 6 weeks I think to help me learn some techniques on how to handle my self when I reach those moments. I am not ashamed of asking for help. I will do anything to avoid feeling like I do sometimes its so debilitating!
I know it will get easier and everyone goes through this the first time round. I just can't sit back and wait it out, I need to find a way to learn to cope better or I will go nuts and probably loose my DH in the process.
Also Dr mentioned trying JD on a Anti Colic formula, as it may be the reason he takes so long to settle after each fed. I bought the SR26 AR formula yesterday and we tried it last night. Its thicker and fills their tummy up faster and apparently it hardens in their tummy so that it doesn't come back up burning them. DH did the feeds last night and early morning again so when he wakes up I will ask him how he went. I pray this helps him settle after a fed. Cause other than that he is a wonderful baby and we just need to find a solution to his issues after he eats. The crying for cuddles or evening the crying cause he is tired is getting a lot easier to handle. Its the crying and screaming after he has eaten that causes me so much stress cause nothing we do seems to help him. It breaks my heart to see him cry so hard that he goes red, holds his breath and gets soaked in sweat! God I pray that we have found something that will help him. The only thing I am worried about is that it can cause constipation, so not sure what that means for babies. Does it means that their poo's become more solid or they poo less. He probably soils about 2 nappies a day and has tones of wet ones. But his poos at the moment are like yellow liquid that often leaks out the nappy so they are very runny.
Anyway, I am off to get my hair done today, I am in much need of a colour and trim. Feel like a bit of a feral at the moment. Then tomorrow my girl friend is having a 30th and I really want to take JD but he is just too unsettled to do that sort of thing now. But part of me wants to just throw him and myself in the deep end and go out and do things like that wether he is crying or not. I just feel scared people will look at me and frown at me if he is crying and screaming and I can't settle him. So the only time I like to take him anywhere is when he is calm and sleeping. But I guess that I can't just keep doing that. One day I am going to have to get myself and him out of the house crying or not and join the rest of the world.
Does anyone know what I mean?
P.S. Steph I hope you guys are having a wonderful weekend away and Larissa is being a good girl for you. Must be nice just having the 3 of you.
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I just fed JD formula SR26 AR (anti reflux) and then let him settle on the left breast till he feel asleep. I burped him between the bottle and breast and he burped and farted a bit without too much crying. I have put him in his cot and I think I have wrapped him nice and tight although he usually wriggles out by the next feed time. Anyway It taken me about 30 minutes to fed and settle and thats a first. I will stay up till about 11.30 just to keep an eye on him. He didn't burp much and now I am worried that he may wake up screaming if he has more wind. The thing is how do you know they have more wind. they may not and perhaps you keeping them awake patting them on their back trying to get wind out is just frustrating them and thats why they are crying... oh I really don't know what I am doing, I guess its just a wait and see thing.
But I do pray to God that he stays settled and sleeps comfortably till his next feed which will hopefully be between 3 and 4am. Praise be to God if this happens cause I have been praying so much and I know my family and friends have been to that we get some better settling and sleeping from the little man.
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Amanda big breath in hunny. Your doing a fab job with JD give yourself more credit. With wind i usually burp Zach at around 60mls (of a 100ml bottle) and then again at 30mls and again at the end. Generally he is pretty good and not much wind gets trapped. I found with Jasmine she used to get alot of wind, so i employed the same burping technique this time to make sure i get alot out.
I sit Zach on my lap, one hand behind his head, one under his chin, slowly tip up back and forwards a few times, it brings the wind up and then i gently pat his back. If that doesnt work i gently bouncing him on my knee, thats works well too.
I dont know how to tell if all the wind is out or not, but generally he is never unsettled after a feed so i assume im getting it all out?
Just about to do my last feed for the night, with all luck he'll sleep through again like last night. He went midnight til 10 am!!! No over night feeds, was fantastic. Normally i get him midnight-5am but recently he has been making it til 630/7am.....which is great for me and my sleep :)
ATM my MIL is down so she has been watching the girls and ive been catching up on all my zzzzz's....shame she goes back home on Monday.
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hey chicks, typing 1 handed here!
Everyone - After a screamer in patrick, I got the baby crying dvd by Pricilla Dunstan. you can get it on her web site or buy it on Ebay, I sold mine on Ebay after Riley, which I am now a bit sad I did. I watched this about 3 times over and really got used to Riley's cries. It REALLY helped me a lot and will help with your anxiety Amanda. You will know what JD is crying for by the way he cries, once you understand the different noises they make. It's amazing.
You can also get Infacol from Safeway or the chemist. You give them a bit before each feed in their mouth, and this helps to collect the bubbles in their tummy and bring it up together, rather than having heaps of bubbles of wind, you will get a few big ones. This has really helped Judd out heaps.
I also burp him half way through his bottle. I have found that since I've been doing that he has been having much bigger bottles (not full on wind) and also not screaming as badly. He still has unsettled moments, and this usually happens up until they are 12 or so weeks old, (unless there's a medical reason) but it doesn't take us as long to settle him down.
Hope this helps.
Amanda - I'm really proud of you for going to the Dr about your anixety. The mental health assessment is really good. I had that done last year, and you get your psych counselling rebated by medicare, which is great, because it's usually over $100 a session. I didn't do anything about my issues when I had Patrick and ended up on medication when he was 14 months old, and am still on it today.
Weird thing happening to me - my right boob is STILL leaking! I didn't breatfeed, have used cabbage to dry up and it's come back mainly on the right. I can massage my boob and it drips out! I'm back on the cabbage leaves today. Will give that a good go and if not working will go to GP next week.
I have thrush, and found out when we DTD the other night. The pads really irritate my Vag as well, so I have go the 6 day pessories. Amanda, it sounds like you might have some thrush too. See what the Dr says and get the pessories and don't DTD until it's clear just in case.
Judd is doing well, 4 weeks tomorrow! DH back at work tomorrow too. Patrick starts kindy this week, and so from now on it's going to be really busy. Most days Judd and Riley seem to be sleeping at the same time, if that keeps up I'll be wrapped!!!!
Have had aircon in the heat wave, and didn't loose power, so we have been OK, but I can't say the same for my garden! It's all been scorched and I'm really upset about it as I've been working on it for over 12 months. Hopefully that's the worst of the heat wave.
Gotta go, good luck with things Amanda, and let us know if you need anything.
Speak to you all again soon.
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Gone quiet in here again..everyone must be busy busy with little bubbas!
Amanda you have got some great info from Tash...im sorry ive never had a windy baby or one that doesnt settle so am not much help there, but good for you getting help for anxiety. Its definately better to get on top of it now.
Well I have hubby and the girls back at work/school tomorrow so its just me Sammy and Ruby which will be so weird. Am looking forward to it though, our routine has been a bit over the place and tonights been the first time in ages that Sammy has been in bed by 8!
Jo
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Hey girls
Had my first real bad night, but maybe due to my fault...cos I formula feed Harley at night, I decided to try a different brand cos he kept chucking on the one I had him on, and well this new brand is a thicker formula, not a AR one but different to the Karicare one I've had him on, and I just don't think it agreed with him...It says it is meant to keep their tummies fuller for longer, so thought we might get more sleep out of him, but nope, for just over 2 hours I tried settling him... So looks like I wasted a tin of formula...so think I'll just stick to the Karicare one as he goes to sleep after it and settles well, maybe I just have a happy spew baby! Spewed all over daddy last night hehe. And he does it on breastmilk as well cos thats wat he was having when Rob copped it lol.
Finally have him off to sleep now, gave him some booby juice to put him to sleep...and hopefully I can get a couple of hours to get a few things done!
Hope u are all ok and going well with ur bubs... its very quiet in here! Not as busy as the old belly buddie group!
Take care girls
Deb :)
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Our trip was fantastic, only short so we tried to pack as much into it as we could. Larissa was so good but I think thats more because we got into a routine, got up relatively early, went and looked at museums/zoo/aquarium during the day, had a swim then a bath and then put her to bed. I felt so rested! Last night we didn't get home till about 8 and then she was getting cuddled by everyone so it was like 9 by the time we started putting her in to bed and it so much effort compared to doing it at like 6 when we were away. On the plus side, she did sleep from about 10 until 5.30 this morning! It's much cooler now we're back home but the air con in the hotel was really good so you didnt even know it was stupidly hot outside! On the drive back I managed to get a burnt shoulder through the car window even though I was wearing protection!
I've seen a sling on the target website so I keep checking in to the stores when I see them as I was hoping to give it a try and if I was comfortable using it then probably buy one but none of the stores I've been in stock them. Its not as if they are small stores! I'll just have to keep trying I suppose!
We have DTD a few times this week, my bleeding had stopped way previously and the discharge was down to practically nothing but since doing things its come back. Did this happen for anybody else? I mean it could be due to DTD or maybe that I've been in the pool? We've been doing it without any protection as neither of us use condoms but I've got Larissa'a weigh in on thursday so I will ask about somethin then. When she came round to the house before she said she thinks something called Marina (?) sounded like it would be best for us seeing as we conceived while I was on the pill. I think its like the coil (thats what we call it in the UK, not sure about here) so has anyone heard of it and can give me some info?
As soon as we get her birth certificate we are going to start applying for her british passport and a visa for Tris so we can all go to the UK. Hopefully it won't take too long to come as I have only got 4 and a half months left on my visa!
I figured seeing as I don't get in here very often I should make my post a long one and I think i have succeeded :-)
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Brunette glad you had a nice time away! Ive been the same with dtd...only having done it once, bleeding came back with vengance! Its quite normal for up to 6 weeks.
Deb sorry you had a horrible night and that your little guy is having a hard time with his formula.
Well big kids are back at school today and Darren back at work. Its so quiet here..we went to the park this morning after taking the kids to school, its such an ordeal in and out of the car in and out, in and out!! lol
Oops gotta go....little missy is calling me!
Jo
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Tash can I ask you what medication are you on for your anxiety and how do you find it? The mental health nurse came to visit me this morning and she said that I have classic PND... and thinks it will be good for me to get on some antidepresants to help me get through.
so would love to know what you think.
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Hi all I just wanted to quickly jump on and wish you all well as I doubt I will be on here much any more. I really don't have the time to play on the computer so won't be able to keep up with all of you.
Good luck to you all it's been FABULOUS having you all here to talk to.
