Babies Born July 16th - 31st 2008

morning

well i have hung the clothes out, fed the babies and now all 3 are sound asleep. i thought i would do a quick post than get some rest myself.

Last night was exhausting, i would just get back in bed and someone else would start to cry. Sebastian was the worst, he can get quite unsettled at times he likes to be held all day and rocked to sleep, Ike was the same but i won't be falling into that trap again once they are 3 months i can start to control cry. but for now unless he is wet hungry windy etc i just pat him and don't pick him up, we have also started to only wrap when its time to sleep so they learn when its bed time.

Anastasia- seb has them too.

pixie god i love cloth.....as a nappy cover i like thirsties and baby softwraps the soft wraps can be used as a cover or you can clip in a booster and use it as a nappy. I would suggest trying out flats before you commit to a nappy service i had flats when ike was born and they gave him the worst rash as they don't draw moisture away the same as the MCN's do. maybe they will have other types not just terry. i have so many different types now i get confused as to what goes with what. I just love the bum genious pocket but ike has outgrown his so now we are using thirsties both AIO and covers with fitted nappies as well as the soft wraps . the soft wraps are my new faveourite ones.

Zee - don't wear yourself out hon. i don't iron we just wash and put it away and iron it as we need it, DH irons his own clothing unless we r going out than i usually do everyones.

kell- same loraine lovley lady soooo nice. maybe cause i bottle and breast thats why its ok.

had the boys weighed and checked monday seb is now 3.5kg and caled is 3.8kg so growing fast. yet still only little fellas.

well gotta go have a nap
kristy
xoxo

Hi all

Just thought id pop in and say hi. Im at work at the moment and trying to get back into it. At least I can sit and watch a movie if I get to tired.

Hope you all well

kell just saw the rash. Awww poor little thing. Still very cute;)

Well all bbl

bye for now

Mornin'

Zee - :hug: I hope Lucas slept better for you last night. I say stuff the ironing. I only iron when it really need to be done, even then I'll still try and get out of ironing and hope the wrinkles just fall out. LOL.

Kristy - We only wrap Hayden when it's bedtime too. It's working out really well for us with his night sleeping. You little boys are growing fastttttt.

Pixie - Wow. You can't see them until the 8th. That's ages away. Great of your dad to get your the nappy wash service. That's awesome!

Mel - Lol @ taking time for myself even if it's at the toilet. Kids love to ask for something/annoy you especially when you're at the toilet. lol.

Missy - I hope work goes fast for you today.

Thanks for the replies from my post yesterday.
Hayden was just whingy and I had to hold him all day pretty much. He woke up cranky and went to bed cranky last night too. Lol.
He must have been a bit off, since he's back to his normal calm self today.
I was saying to DP last night it's like he was yelling at me with his different cries. Lol.

I might go try and curl my hair or something, while Hayd is zzz'in and Elijah is quiet and doing his own thing.


How're you all feeling? Honestly?
Has it sunk in that you're a mummy/daddy either for the first time or again?
xoxo.

Good Afternoon :)

How r we all? Jonathan only got up twice last night at 3.30am & then at 7am so which was ok, without me waking him up. He was asleep but now he's just lying in his bassinet. Does anyone wrap their babies during the day? Has anyone got their periods back from c-section?

Zee-I don't iron my clothes either, I just wash them hung them outside when they are dry I put them away, & if we need to wear them & needs to be ironed I will do it on the day or take it to my hubby's factory & he can press it for me or I will doing it myself.

Kristy.. id say thats why she said it is ok for you because theyre having formula as well. But yeh not sure.. thats just what she told me yesterday when i asked her about water. Wow those boys are growing fast! Jesse was 3.8kgs when born. Keira is 4.38kgs.. so theyre not too far away from that. But yeh she is great. Ive had her throughout with Jesse, she even did my home visits with him. Reason i like her so much is shes so unbias. Not one to push you to breastfeed or do things a certain way.. shes very understanding and reassuring.

Missy.. try not to work too hard hun!

Tenny.. glad Hayden is back to his old self today. Today i feel fine, as there was no real dramas with us over night. When Keira is having issues of a night is when it all hits me alot and still get alot of the baby blues coming through (plus the lack of sleep not helping). Was actually starting to think i was entering into a bit of PND. But after talking to Lorraine (CHN) yesterday about it, she said PND doesnt come in until about 8 or so weeks. That its still very common to have the baby blues up until then, especially with the lack of sleep. She said with PND youre down all the time.. whereas during the day im fine.. its just of a night that i fall into a heap. Thank goodness i have my DH. He is brilliant and wonderful. So calm about everything.. its just his nature. Hense probably why Keira always settles with him so easily! How are you feeling about it all hun?

Anastasia.. yep im still wrapping Keira most of the day.. until the afternoon when it starts to warm up a little. Its just so damn cold here. When it starts to get warmer weather then i will wrap less and eventually transfer her into sleeping bags of a night, but she likes to be all nice a toasty and cozy now. Ive got my AF back.. but i had a VAG birth. Happens usually once you stopped BF. Sometimes though you can still get it if you are.

Ok Jesse's finished lunch so best clean him up and put him to bed so i can hopefully cat nap while theyre both snoozing!

Morning all (whoops afternoon actually!!) I'm losing track of time bigtime these days..

Tenny - I'm glad he's back to normal - I hate it when they have unsettled days... I usually have a little helper passing me toilet paper when I'm on the toilet, or trying to post it in between my legs.. lol
I'm feeling very well actually about becoming a mother 2nd time over - more calm than I was before when I just had one - and totally loving it - which I can't say that I have EVER felt before!!!!! Dunno, maybe its still hormones and I'll be back to my cranky, impatient self before too long... lol

Kel - ooh we didn't think of looking at giving it that way!!! We just took it to mean every four hours - no matter what... hmmm... interesting.... sometimes its longer than 4 hours of course, depending on how much she sleeps. She's been sleeping all day today - probably mean I'll be up all night tonight!!! That pic of Jess is gorgeous even with the rash - he's sooo cute!!!!!

Kristy - I think you should be given a medal - hanging OUT washing? oh my lord, its hard enough to get mine on the clothes horse every second day... pmsl...

Anastasia - I'm still bleeding of course. Sometimes I think it has stopped, then I'll feel a flood and whooopss... she's back... LOL Oh and I wrap DD all the time no matter what time of day or night it is, she likes to feel secure and if I don't wrap her, she will wake up as soon as I put her down :)

Zee - I'm doing half the ironing - do DH's work clothes and stuff everything else.. it can wait.. lol I hope Lucas slept ok for you.

Missy - man oh man you are a hard worker.. back at work already!??! Watching movies sounds good though ;) Try not to work too hard mate!!!

Pixie - we use flats here at the moment, in between other fitted nappies, and we use Bummis covers and motherease - mother ease covers ROCK.. seriously.. they are AWESOME.

I think that is all I was going to say. Can't remember. Must go have pepsi to wake up. And probably hang some washing out cos Kristy has made me feel like a slack ar$e.. lol ;)

Thanx girls for that I still wrap Jonathan during the day & night. Once he hits the 3 or 4 months mark I will stop wrapping him, depends how he goes cause he will go into his own room at that time. Do any of u girls let ur babies cry themselves to sleep or do u comfort them after their feeds? Sometimes Jonathan cries after his feed & he wants me to comfort him which I do but I don't want him to get used to it as he will be in his room at 3/4 months like I said. Everytime he cries I go back & forth back & forth. But at night he's good (I don't want to jinx myself).

Anastasia - I did a form of controlled crying with DS when he was about 2 months old - basically we just let him cry himself to sleep. Couldn't imagine doing that again, its very hard to listen to them bawl... at the moment we help DD get to sleep - cos after all that controlled crying and DS still isn't a great sleeper, so we don't think it makes a difference!!!! At the moment we have to be beside the cot for DS to get to sleep, and he's 19 months old!!!!! Fat lot of good controlled crying did in our house.

So at the moment we rock or sorta jiggle DD to sleep....

And she has been sleeping all day!!! This isn't looking good for tonight.. seriously, she woke up at 12 for a feed, and my mum fed her, then she went back to sleep (and even when she "woke" up she wasn't very awake.. had her eyes closed the whole time.. )

Maybe she's growing.. or something.. hope she's not sick!!!

Afternoon all,

Well where has today gone!! I have to say it has been a very unsettled day here in my household :doh: Isabel hasn't slept today yet! I have been trying to put her down since her last feed at 1:30pm. I think she is asleep and then she starts crying.. She may finally be down but next door is b$$$dy drilling and it's so annoying.

Tasia - yes I wrap Isabel pretty much all the time except when she is playing on her gym mat.

Mel - Isabel slept pretty much all day yesterday hence her not sleeping today :( I'm sure she will sleep tonight. Plus I don't think that she is sick could be just a growth spurt.

Missy - Wow back at work already you go girl. Who is looking after your little ones?

Tenny - Honestly I am feeling very tired and drained. I am always worrying that I'm not doing things correctly and sometime Isabel really tests me even at this age.. But I do love being a mum and I'm sure that it will get better.

:hello: to B, Belle, Jess, Tanis, Skittlebub, Pixie, Kell, Kristy and everyone else.

Well we had our first Mothers group yesterday and Isabel slept the whole time which was nice. There are 10 of us in the group which is nice and they all sound lovely hopefully we'll make some good friends out of this whole experience. Has everyone else started to attend their Mothers group yet??

I think that I might have a cuppa now that it sounds all quiet in this house, I'll BBL to catch up if I'm able to. Have a lovely afternoon/night all.

hi girls

You girls are all doing so well to post and do everything, im so tired lately I havent even had time to get online, but we have gone out every day in the morning with the girls so I guess thats why im super tired too. Tara didnt sleep well last night either, 4am feed didnt sleep much after only about 30 mins or so then 7am feed or bit before then had long sleep on my chest and I fell asleep too then 8am feed went well then we went out at 9.30am as she didnt want to go back to sleep then she slept in the sling against me until 1pm so I think I may have a clingy one!!! wants only me rather than her bassinet.... I let DH sleep last night and I got up to her so he had unbroken sleep so maybe thats why im so tired today...who knows...

Mez - yay on new MG thats great, do you have sessions on how to settle your baby and feeding etc like that? our last MG had that for 5 sessions then we were on our own to organise weekly catchups outside the centre. I hear you on the no sleep always crying. I started to try dummies at sleep but she only takes them when she wants.. have you tried one? Sometimes Tara doesnt like them at all she has to be inthe mood for it lol.

Mel - honey the first growth spurt is around 3 weeks isnt it? try not to worry hon, if she has regular poo and wees she will be ok.

Tasia - we did a form of controlled crying in our house too with Julia but we only let her cry for 2 mins thats it. Couldnt handle her crying. It was so difficult. When she was 3 months we stopped wrapping her best thing we did we put her in a growbag and she was great she always loved her arms being free and slept with then above her head LOL she slept great in a growbag, so Im doing the same this time with Tara, no more wrapping after 3 months. Growbags are the best invention! Happy birthday for sunday! Re J's feeding how many feeds does he have per day on average? If its 6 just divide 670mls by 6 and that gives you the amount of mls he needs per feed to meet the quota. I dont wake Tara up at night either, but she wakes herself up every 4 hours, at the moment she feeds at 9pm 11pm 4am, 7am, 9am, 12noon, 3pm, 6pm etc... I feed Tara earlier before 2 hourly feeds if she is mouthing for it or eating my shoulder or DHs shoulder or crying and nothing will console her but my feeding her.

Kell - thats great your CCN came to visit, they do here too, sorry to hear she has little tounge tie hon. No wonder so many issues feeding.

Feeb - fabulous re Jacobs weight gain! do you weigh him every week? wonder how often I should.

Kristy - hiya mate, you are doing so well with 3 boys! sounds like you are great hon and you even manage to go out too! Hugs re posting and losing I understand, They say BF babies dont need water as our milk is more watery apparently. I only started giving Julia water when I started solids and she was BF and also fed 2 x formula bottles a day.

Tenny - wow allthese twins!!! Hows Hayden today? good to see you. I do feel like im losing myself I look after everyone first and then me, its hard with more than 1 child too hey. I just got to make sure I drink and eat lol. Otherwise I get real crabby.



Pixie - you sound like you are doing so well and such a great sleeper Beth is too! thanks for the Deli tips from Bear! good point about tshirt and pants instead of the all in one suit, never thought about that, all those press studs are getting to me lol im going to try pants tomorrow!

Zee - honey I did get your text did you get mine back??? Hows Lucas and Laila? Housework! lol whats that? I dont believe in ironing and either does DH! so makes it easier on us. It is hard I agree with Kell to do housework with 2 kids. Mind you Julia loves helping me hand the washing on the line ! and she puts her clothes away too to help shes so cute!

Pixie - hon I forgot to mention our childhood centre had drop in days where you go in and write your name on a whiteboard and the nurses go down the list and you get so see them when the next nurse is free, thats twice a week at our centre, we went there this week to get Tara weighed, it was great just to go there and we just waited for 20mins to see someone, can you ask if your centre does that too? re Covers, I have some covers I can lend you hon, so you can test them out and see what you like? Im not using them at the moment, I havent converted to cloth yet, slaps my own wrist, I have a full bag waiting for me full of nappies and covers from my lovely friends MAZ and Chrissy happy to share with you so you can try some out. When you feel up to it we can meet up if you like for coffee at Leighhardt (ps I love the Forum!) happy to come that way and I can give you them.

SW - good to hear from you mate, how ru today?

Tania - how ru too hon?

Hope I dont lose this post!

Hello to everyone else if I have missed anyone, I will come back for more personals, time for dinner and feeding Tara...

MWAH to all.

Bel
xxx

Missy I can't believe you're back at work already!
And who mentioned ironing? I never iron, it's against my religion. Even when I was working I just didn't buy any work shirts that needed ironing or I sent them to the laundry. The Bear has to iron his own shirts, bless him, he does a much better job than I would!
Thanks everyone for all the tips on covers! And thanks heaps Belle for the offer of a loan! Sounds good, we will have to get together for a coffee soon - give me another week or so and then we'll organise it!
I would like to use mcns but if Dad is going to pay for the nappy service then I am happy to use that for six months, then go on to MCNs. I have some small MCN's for when DD needs to look extra spunky, but for everyday happy to use cloth especially if someone is washing them for me! When she was in the hospital she had to wear cloth nappies some of the time and she seemed fine with them. And I have got the magic pawpaw ointment that worked brilliantly on her nappy rash!
Tasia I only wrap DD if she is going to sleep in her hammock. Other than that if she is just snoozing in her rocker or her car seat I don't.
Mel DD has been sleeping HEAPS too! Maybe it's just the age? hope its that and doesn't mean she is going to be awake all night!
Kristy - you're a legend mate.
Tenny - The Bear and I are just in bliss mode.... maybe the hormones haven't worn off yet! LOL good to hear Hayden is back to normal.
:hello: everyone else

Anastasia.. i dont think its really recommended to control cry at this age as theyre still too young to try and manipulate iykwim. Atm them crying i guess is really their only way to communicate and usually is because theres something wrong, rather than not wanting to go to bed. We did somewhat with Jesse i think around 6 months. Was after he was past the colic stage and bringing up the wind himself and when he was starting to just not want to go to bed. Up until then i would comfort him to sleep. Hes a great sleeper once we've put him to bed. Will do the same with Keira.
Yeh at the moment, its either shes on our shoulder and gets tapped, or rocked or we walk or sit and tap or even use the bouncer (has a vibration).

Mez.. oh sorry Izzy's been playing up. Does she have wind? Have you tried that Colic Relief? We kinda had a mothers group with Jesse.. not sure if ill look for one with Keira.. its quite hard atm trying to juggle the 2 kids. Am going to start Jesse in Day Care next year so maybe the day he goes we might do something. But thats great you found one. You will find it great comparing notes ;)

Belle.. sorry you had a bad night. Hope tonights alot better. Having a toddler too tires you out alot aswell i think. But youre doing great!

I dont iron either. My clothes iron themselves on the clothes line lol. The most ive ever used out iron was to iron on transfers to shirts i made for Jesse :lol:

Kell - No I haven't tried the colic relief, today I bought Gripe Water and going to try that but I really don't know if she has colic or if it's reflux? She is asleep at the moment so that's good. I gave her 10mls of warm water this morning which seemed to work. My MG was organised by my MHCH for first time mums.

Belle - Isabel has the dummy when she is crying heaps it helps settle her, whatever helps me I'm happy to do. But like Tara she doesn't always take it only when she is in the mood for it. I do believe that they will tell us about how to settle your bubs in one of our session which will be great. Can't wait I'm looking forward to making new friends as most of my friends have kids that are much older.

Mel- I couldn't let Jonathan cry himself to sleep maybe when he gets a bit older, we'll see.

Belle-Yeah it is 6 I have been giving Jonathan & yeah 100mls or 120mls he leaves a little milk in bottle but not much.

I GOT MY PERIOD JUST BEFORE!!! (sorry TMI)

hey Tasia - that sounds good Tara drank about 100mls when I was express feeding her every 3-4 hours sometimes bit less. OMG you got your period. already? darn it LOL Im not looking forward to that.

Mez - yeah im looking forward to new Mothers Group too!

Kell - hiya mate, gotta love the no ironing lol!!! how are Jesse and Keira tonight?

Pixie - sounds great! I love going out and catching up for coffee!

Girls I put Tara's birth story in the birth story section if you are interested and I uploaded some more pics in Tara's album.

Have a good night, im going to bed now...so tired.

Anastasia - at least if you have your period now you can start planning on conceiving number 2 bub ;)

Belle - out every morning?! Geez you guys must be busy down there - no wonder you are tired!!!! Take it easy honey.... and just think - since most of our babies seem to be clingy - lucky we had them in winter - they keep us all warm... lol... and yeah, I thought they went through their first growth spurt at 3 weeks too... she didn't sleep much this afternoon, has just cat napped and stuff... so soon I'll go to bed (9.30 for this mumma) and DH can do the last feed and bring her down to the room, and then I hope I won't feel so stuffed when she wakes up in the early hours!!!!!!

Mez - I think with reflux they pull off their bottle/breast when feeding, and arch their backs and scream and stuff... colic is their wind usually after the feed and pulling their legs up to their chest - thats what I've read about each of them anyways.. I was going to try the gripe water, but colic relief was cheaper - and it works which is great!!!!! I think its fab that you guys get set up with a mothers group - they don't do things like that up here - didn't have a mothers group for DS and don't for DD - but what do I need one for - I have you guys - you're all my mothers group.. lol

Kel - pmsl @ the iron comment - OMG.. that is sooo like me.. lol...

Pixie - don't forget to be careful about which nappy creams you use on the MCN's when you start using them - can't use normal creams on them cos they'll stuff up the absorbency.. ;) Glad you guys are having such a good time with your little one.. :)

Ah well time for a cuppa and then prepare for bed I guess....

Oh - c-section ladies - anyone else having any belly pain? I've got bad burning belly pain, but not near my scar.... I'm guessing its nerves reattaching - yay... the fun continues... but at least my pelvis is getting better.. there is a silver lining.. lol

Belle- Yeah I know already, I have been having pain for a few days now. I'm going to go read Tara's birth story. Have a goodnight sweety :)

Mel- I can't start trying till I have my 3 periods & then we can start trying can't wait. I know I'm crazy :D