Babies Born June 2006 #33

HI Ladies,

Well things are still looking good at the moment, lachlan slept from 7 until 12 last night, had a bottle and then slept until 5.45, put a dummy in and he then slept until 7am!! OOOh i still dont want to get my hopes up but things are so much better.

Im sure i can see a tiny little patch of tooth coming through, i hope it is! Funny though, Lachlan is sooooo unsettled while he is not teething and then just before the teeth come through he starts sleeping! hmmm a little backward.

We went to the Early Childhood Nurse today.
Weight: 9.2kg
Length:74cm
Cant remember the head! ooops. I also left my blue book there too. Im sure she will look after it, she is lovely.

She said she was a bit concerned that he isnt getting enough milk, i cant get him to drink much at all through the day. He was drinking two big bottles through the night but he has dropped that 3am feed (and im not re introducing it!) and now he is having less. He is averaging about 580 - 600mls in 24 hours. She seems to think he needs about 700-800mls. Rory I remember someone told you that 600mls is enough (was that you??)

IK - Thanks, i never thought i was a strong person until i had to go through this, and i know i have done this BY MYSELF I have had very little help from DF so im taking all the credit for this!!

Bath - Hope your doing ok! I miss you around here!!

Mel - Those colours sound great, i especially love 'Punch Me'

Nickers- I hope Nixon is feeling a bit better today. Oh and DH(Cant forget about him now can we!)

Anyway ladies, im off for an early night tonigh. I hope you are all going well!

That is excellent Donna, he'll be sleeping through before you know it. A huge pat on the back for you. Did you find a celebrant? Everything you read is different but some say that 600 to 800 mls of infant formula or 3 to 4 breastfeeds per day is adequate for our babies at this age. Taking into account they have solids as well. :D I think all babies are diferent and if he looks healthy and is active and gaining weight and growing like a trooper he should be fine. Good luck with the toothy peg. BBL DH is on the phone, actually I'll check in tomorrow gunna go watch House/Heroes and then Medium. Night all.
Dee

Well I was having a great day until I had to catch the bus home and Wyatt decided that he would throw a tanty in the bus, he screamed the whole way home I tried distracting him and nothing worked and to top things off when I got off the bus some old b*****d, clapped and said thank god as I got off. I was so embarassed, mad and a lot of other things as well.

On to better things as of yesterday Cody is getting up on his knees and rocking, so it won't be long till he is crawling around, boy my little man is growing.

Dee it sounds as if you have finally turned a corner for the better with Lachlan, it's sounds like you are going great guns with him.

Dee 7th lol at putting your mosituriser on and flylading, hopefully this weather will decide what it's doing soon. Will have to orgainise the meet soon, might catch you on MSN.

Everyone else hello, going to watch House now.

hugs xoxo

7th - Flylady was far too much reading for me and I lost patience!! Heroes was a ripper tonight! I love it.

Rory - poor Flynn, hope he doesn't have a big egg on his head. Hide the maracas next time LOL!!!

Dee - looks like Lachlan is a great weight. In comparision Marley is only 7.3 kg! I know girls are generally smaller. She has 3 feeds per day of 210mls. Sometimes she drinks them all, sometimes she doesn't. She also has 3 meals per day and the same story - she is bit fussy with her food, drives me nuts. You should be really proud of how well you have done getting Lachlan settled. Great to hear. I PML when I saw the colour "Punch Me"! Where do they think of these names!!

Amanda - how awful for you. Oldies don't seem to understand kids. Pity you couldn't have slipped him the "finger"! Sounds like Cody is getting clever with his attempts at crawling. They do look funny trying to get the action right. Marley has just started to put the knees up, but thats as far as she goes.

Bath - I read in Melb Child (Feb issue, so a bit late) that they have a Thomas the Tank thing on at Puffing Billy this weekend. Let me know if you don't have a copy and I can give you the details if you are interested. I know how much Wade loves his trains.

On the countdown now, 4 more sleeps till holidays. YAH!!!! :dance:

Another sticky one today - looks like more of the same tomorrow! How did we deal with this, this time last year, 5 months preggers?
Anyway, I've been out and about today after my girlfriends left here and now I'm back after brigade and I'd like to get Oscar to sleep...he's playing, though, so I might be in for a fight with him!
Dee - absolutely, I AM giving you all the credit, it's all yours :) And you're right, it's not the same when Bath doesn't post much - a noticeable and regrettable absence IMO, but I know what it's like when real life keeps one away from the 'puter, myself!

Mel - still jealous of the QLD trip...although I've not really spent much time east of Westernport, so I'll enjoy the Sth Gippy coast this weekend, and I can deal with the not camping bit, either. I love camping, but it's nice to not camp and have a weekend away every once in a while. DP wants to leave the dog behind, though, and that feels treacherous to me! I was going to write more (this is becoming repetitive), but I've gone blank because Oscar is squealing his way down the hallway into the open study...and he's got a habit of sucking on paper - of which there is plenty lining the floor in there.
Ok, better go, sorry to rush again...
Oh, I remembered one thing - Amanda, what a misery guts...probably doesn't have young family to keep him in touch with his youth, sad git! And Rory, poor Flynny! Do you use Arnica?
Bye!

Hi girls, :redface: It has been really lovely to get to know you all, and it is with deep regret that I now say goodbye to you all. It was wrong of me to take issue with IK and Bath so publicly:( I did have an episode of B!tchiness towards them in Junie's #7 I realize that I am obviously in the wrong and they are truly great people and I am the b!tch. I'm very sorry. Perhaps with me leaving it will encourage the others to post in here again and get this site back to being a happy and joyous place to talk about your babies. If it's okay I may look in from time to time and check on all your beautiful babies and to see how you're all going, but I won't post. No amount of tears or wishes will reverse time and make it all go away. There are three sides to every story. I offered the olive branch and it has been firmly rejected.:cry: I feel that the continued snide remarks have also been unnecessary and will probably never end so I have too much dignity to stay where I'm not wanted. We've shared something really amazing and I feel privileged to have shared some of your journey. I feel I have ruined it for you. Again I am deeply sorry. I will miss you all. I am too ashamed to stay.
Goodbye
Love Dee

Just letting you know Nixon is still not well. I was getting quiet concerned yesterday when he STILL wasnt eating or keeping fluids down and still had diahreoa. I rung nurses on call which gave me some good tips and concluded he was not extremley dehydrated or anything. He was still very clingy last night not wanting to go to bed on his own, this morning he has had his full bottle which is a start but still has runny nappies.
Im shortly going to see whether he has his appetite back but taking him back to the docs thismorning just to be sure.
the heat has definatley not been helping the situation i think we are up to day 8 in a row of above 30 (with 2 of those days hitting 40) tomorrow is meant to be 34....

Donna- As of 10months i weighed Nixon he was 9.9kg & 75cm HC 45.5cm. But i weighed him thismorning and he has lost about 1/2 a kg since Saturday.

amanda- pity u didnt have some smart alec come back comment for that idiot on the bus. he obviously doesnt have children.

Dee- Im sorry that you feel too ashamed to stay, i know you kept your nose out of everything for the majority of conflicts and felt compeled to stand up for fellow cyber friends of recent. you really have been a huge influence to this thread, i love hearing about your family & youv'e always had really helpful advise for us first time mums. I know i will personally miss your posts but definatley stay in contact with you through email and other means.

Good afternoon Junies... I'm a bit upset and annoyed about the prevailing thoughtlessness and just plain b*tchiness in the BB site in general lately. Refer to Kelly's messages in the Announcements section. I just wish that all the members who have issues with BB would leave! it's that easy!

Dee78: Thanks darl, that was very sweet of you to say that :)
Amanda: Oh No! I really feel for you after that bus trip :( I've dealt with that kind of treatment myself... it says more about the sad old man than anything else... his life must be wretched and lonely.
Nic: Thinking of little Nixon... keep us posted.

Gotta go... Niall needs me.

Well hello Junies!:o
I'm going to be quick as Pat is sick....asthma/bronchiolitis!
I just wanted to say that while Pat is sick, I won't be in here much as I can't handle Pat being sick and the *****iness in here..:'( So if you want to talk to me please email me at scudder29@netspace.net.au.
hoping everyone is feeling better soon.

Mel - 3 more sleeps! It will be SO nice to get back to a different house, without having to have been there when all the messy stuff has taken place!
Dee - most of the babies in my Mothers Group, and also from my ante natal class haven't sprouted teeth yet and Marley isn't threatening teeth soon, either, so don't feel too left out!
We just got back from a playswim and had a great time - we used our ring and floaties, as well as pool noodles. It topped off a really chilled out, nice day - we spent lunch in a local park with a cool breeze to move the humidity around and I packed a sumptuous picnic!
CC - how are you going with Ally?
Amanda - are you dealing with your bus incident ok? That kind of thing would rattle me for a while and I would be going over in my head just what I SHOULD have said to someone like that! It occurred to me today that when people grow up they forget that they started out at babies and kids and really treat them like they are a variation of an annoying pet option for some people. They are little PEOPLE! I always thought I didn't like kids (obviously before I had Oscar!), but thinking about it today (and remembering your post) it wasn't that I didnt' like them, I just thought I couldn't relate to them. Turns out, that is exactly what I have ever done with them! I thought I couldn't because I didn't treat them like other adults around me treated them - I thought about my experiences with kids and realised that I just never condescended to them, and because everyone else around me did, I thought I was doing it wrong and that I didn't have it in me. How's that? I've been doing it right all along! My parents would say 'the more you don't like them, the more you attract them and they want to be with you', which was partly true. What was really happening was that they more I thought I was 'doing it' wrong, the more the kids appreciated it and liked to hang off me! Anyway, that was my epiphany for the day, thanks to your unfortunate experience on the bus. That and I looked around me everywhere I was today and realised that our world is not designed for kids because the 'designers' of things like buildings, shops, furniture, ummm...fire stations (!), just plain forget that we ALL start out as babies and kids and don't accommodate them in 'our' environs unless they are specific child zones (childcare centres, nurseries). Enough musing, my dinner's nearly ready and boyo can't decide if he's asleep or awake!
Might catch you all tomorrow, otherwise I will be having an enforced break cos I'll be away from the modem. If that's the case, have a great weekend all :)

IK it has been playing on my mind what else I could've done to try and keep him quite, I was also a little emotional when tell DH about it, it just annoys me that he made me feel so small and so crappy about myself and made me question myself, ah well another thing to learn from.

Well we've got Kailen's appointment tomrrow at the hospital and then we'll be going to Hervey Bay for the weekend, try and relax and enjoy seeing my mum and dad again. Oh I also forgot to say that I'd lost my mobile and yesterday I noticed my license missing so I went back to ever I thought I may have lost it and to no avail, so will have to go and get another one.

Jess I hope that Patrick picks up soon.

hugs xoxo

Still here - just had my dinner and was looking at Hollywood Rag online...BEST celeb gossip and pics!
Anyway, Amanda, it doesn't sound like there's that much more you could have done. Please don't think this way anymore, it's not fair that this guy has you feeling that way! Babies cry...doesn't everyone know that? They are not wind-up dolls with an 'off' switch. That this old man couldn't realise that is mean spirited...just MEAN! You didn't 'let' him cry, you didn't make him cry, and you were on a bus...his mean spirit probably wished you'd get off the bus and get on the next one so that HE wouldn't have to listen to it and others would. I hate that you're tying yourself in knots over someone as selfish and mean as that :( Kids are supposed to bring out the best in people...if that was his 'best', then he can have his applause and the peace he got on the bus when you got off, cos at least you have 4 boys who give you joy every day! You have so much more on him, girly, than he EVER will on you!
How are you going with that carrier? There's not much you can do to change the way the world integrates, or doesn't, babies and kids, but I find a carrier to be a nice 'stick it up em' when Oscar is content and happy in it and taken to places that kids don't normally go, or for as long (cos I invariably get that 'oh, no, she brought the kid' look or vibe). So, you may not get this old man back, but (and think 'pay it forward' here with me), your conduct with other people, and the way your boys turn out will show people that you have done your bit for us as a society; that is, raised fine human beings who WON'T turn out like that old man! Am I rambling? I just really want you to put this crappy feeling behind you and know that you did NOTHING wrong, and neither did Wyatt :hugs: If this guy saved a town from Japanese bombers, he just negated his service by doing what he did. Does that make sense? Meanwhile, repeat after me (geez, this advice is taking me back to better times, I haven't advised this in ages!)...'bite me'...practice it daily so that it becomes a natural reaction, even if it's just in your head, when someone has a go at you!
On that note, I'm outta here!

Nic - how is Nixon tonight. Hope the little guy feels better. It sounds as though you have managed to miss the bug. Well done.

IK - 3 more sleeps, yes!!! Is has come up so fast. I still have to rearrange the house ready for the tiler and painter to come. Will leave that for Saturday. Was supposed to go shopping for some holiday clothes with my brothers girlfriend but she had to cancel. Might have to get MIL to look after girls tomorrow night so I can quickly go. Just need to get a few more singlets etc, I am only packing light this time! Last time we went to Noosa, my bag had a big sticker on it saying "Heavy 37kgs"! Better not overload it this time LOL!!! Sounds like you had a wonderful day - picnic in the park sounds beautiful.

Amanda - ditto what IK says. Don't let a silly out coot get you down! He is probably a lonely, grumpy old bugger who has no joy in his life, so makes everyone know about it. We had a similiar problem at the local shopping centre a few months ago, where I was having lunch with a couple of GF's and their kids and the kids where sitting at a table behind him, laughing and playing. He yelled out to us to get them to shut up, he shook his head and carried on. We moved the kids away from him and anytime they went near him he cursed. When we were ready to leave, he made a comment again and my GF said 'back off, they're just kids", he said something back and she was ready to walk up and have it out with him. We convinced her to leave it. Let him be a miserable *****!!! Kids have tantrums, thats a fact of life. Don't let it worry you anymore. Bummer about the licence! Good luck with Kailen tomorrow, make sure you let us know how you go.

Jess - poor Pat, hope he gets better soon.

Hi to everyone else.

Good afternoon :)

Mel: Hope you get to do your holiday clothes shopping tonight. 37kgs for a trip to Noosa! LOL Surely all you'd need was a toothbrush and a bikini? ;) I travelled to Europe in 2001 without exceeding 22kgs... I started out with 18kgs. It was a month long tour. We have 3 pieces in our suitcase set: I call them Baby Bear, Mama Bear and Papa Bear... I took Mama Bear and she was almost full to the brim when I returned. Good time of the year to buy bargain summer clothing.

IK: I can't imagine you absorbed by celebrity goss... I bet, like me, you only read it to 'analyse' their behaviour ;) How about Britney Spear's shaved head! LOL

Amanda: Ditto IK. Remember when I was pregnant with Niall some crazy woman verbally attacked me on a train because Wade was squealing and I came in here to have a bit of a cry? I really know how hurt you must have been. All you can do is just accept that there are people like that in the world and like IK said, let it motivate you to raise your children to have more empathy for parents with upset children in public.

Jess: Hope Pat is feeling better and his breathing is easier. It must be very stressful for you.

Rory: a certain Hire-A-Hubbie's ears must have been burning today!!! He turned up and fixed the gate within half an hour of speaking to you! :)

Better go make some kind of effort in the kitchen regarding tea... looking forward to the cooler weather this weekend. Going to enjoy some time in the garden. Hope everyone has a good one !

ETA: High drama here ATM: DH has just arrived home with a bag of cast-off's from one of the women at his work... size 8 (fits Verity)... amazing brands: Sass&Bide, Kookai, Cue, Review etc. The woman has no children, a lot of disposable income and pretty good taste... hmmmm, some nice stuff... wonder if I could lose a bit more weight? hehe

:redface: Thanks guys,for your warm messages, :) and due to your kind wishes, I have reevaluated and won't be leaving but I will be away for awhile, but mostly due to the fact I'm about to get very busy with Uni, the course is very intense. I went to the orientation lectures today and whooo really made me think about whether or not I can do this.
Due to the fact I just didn't have anyone to look after the 3 littlies today (and no $150 to put them in care) I took them with me I figured it's only orientation and if they get rowdy I could just leave. Well they were the most perfect three little angels ever. I was as proud as punch. I had several comments on how well behaved the girls were and of course how cute Nathan is, lol. They lasted really well, drawing on paper and mummy's hands (I have the loveliest nail polish on, lol), I did keep them fed, so I think that helped. I met some lovely ladies from all walks all doing the same thing as me. It was great and I'm really glad I went. Well I hope all babies have recovered, have fun Mel and Amanda, I'll see you next week.
ByeDee:D

Just quickly, Ive just gotten back from hospital where ive been for the past 5hrs. Nixon still wasnt any better by lunch time today and was more lathargic. Anyway after hours of waiting around the doc didnt say anything different to our gp, that keeping up fluids/watch for certain signs and he seems ok in himself.
I am glad he is fine but just a bit frustrating that he has been the same for an entire week now and lost about 700grams now. He did about 4 runny poos and a spew whilst we were there.
So im pooped, gotta finish cleaning the house that i got half way through as we have another insepction tomorrow and I will be out doing a tupperware thing all day.

Dee glad to see u reconsidered and sticking around.

Bath - I need to pack light this time as I am sharing my case with Marley. I do tend to overpack and bring things home that I never wore!!!! LOL about the bikini (maybe not!!!), I decided to wait until I get there to buy new bathers. I bought my last pair up there and they lasted me for years. I had to go shopping this morning while DH was still home and I nearly made him late for work. I found some great bargains at Sussan - 2 gorgeous singlet tops, a pair of PJ's, 2 tops to go with some PJ pants I already have for $65. I went to buy a new bra that can take the clear straps and decided it was time to get refitted and I have changed sizes. I was a 14D, now a 12DD. Glad I now have a properly fitted bra and it was on sale for $25 and fits beautifully. She also showed me some tips to make sure your bra fits right - some of them I didn't know! Verity must be going nuts with all that stuff and such good brands. Good to know people like that, hopefully she can keep sending stuff your way.

Nic - poor Nixon. Must be frustrating being told the same thing, but at least its nothing serious. Hopefully he is at the tail end of it and will start being back to his happy, usual self soon. I can understand why you are so pooped - at least the weekend will be a bit cooler and maybe you can have some relaxing time after you finish everything on Saturday.

I sold my Swallow Mama Bear glider chair on ebay this week and the lady came to collect it this afternoon. She was so lovely and really loved the chair. She was Canadian and this is her first baby so we chatted abit about baby things. I had to go to the shops after she left and I had Marley in the capsule part of the trolley and Chelsea walking with me. Chelsea nearly walked in front of a car in the carpark and I was quite mad with her for not staying with me and we were having a discussion about it in the shops. In the fruit/vegie section, a lady came over to see Marley and was chatting to me when Chelsea came up and said "excuse me mum, but you are giving me a headache", the lady laughed and said "why have you got a headache", Chelsea's response "my mum is being rude to me"! The lady just looked at me and said "aren't they priceless". I walked off trying not to laugh, my daughter sounds like a 15 year old! Chelsea then proceeded to tell me how good she was being and she deserved a treat, maybe icecream! Nice try! My tiles arrived today and the lovely delivery man agreed to move them all around the back and onto our deck - I don't think he was going to but saw me on my own with the 2 kids and must have taken pity on me LOL!!! Have to pack tomorrow and move all our family room furniture out into our front lounge room and take everything out of the girls rooms. Boy it's going to be a busy day!

Sorry if my comments are old, I've been at work and just catching up.
Oooo Dee! your wedding! How's it all going?? How long have you got now? Promise you'll show some pix! what a lovely thing to look forward to! and 7am is a much more human time to get up!

sorry confused - 7thHeaven you are Dee too right? do you mind if I just call you 7th heaven so I can remember you are the one with a large family?? don't leave the forum, we're all not making nasty comments so it's all ok now. It was really good of you to publicly apologise anyway, I would have emailed you this so "it" doesn't all come up again, but i haven't got your email, and can't PM you. Have a break and come back refreshed and all intellectual from uni!!

Oh Rory - of course you can be an easy going person but also a control freak = gosh look at me!! No seriously, the control freak thing is more about the environment I think, like feeling that things are under control. The trouble is immeasurable words like "everything" and "done" which cause the probs! It might be having somewhat anal careers? or just careers/jobs in general where we are used to having control and autonomy. I know that's an issue I struggled with SO much with giorgia hence the 4.5 yr gap between children LOL! You're lucky your ABA/Nipple Nazi :) group HAS meetings.

I was SO excited to be breastfeeding Ruby and to join ABA, and it's been completely useless... but at least my membership helps support the organisation as a whole. I want to breastfeed to the required age so I can be a counsellor, having had a baby that "worked" and one that didn't!

amanda3 - what f#$@#$Kwit. :wall: bloody hell. stupid p!sspot. ok - just very annoyed for you. I hope someone said something to him. I'm SO angry for you now. I'm in awe at mothers who catch the bus anyway.

On flyladying - good ideas, I just stick to the zone and Kelly's missions. I agree WAY too much reading and I struggle with a lot of the americanisms which I'm sure are fine, but don't suit me as an australian?

Dee - I have to agree with LMG - when you said Lachlan was 9+ kg, he sounds fine. Why is she concerned about his milk intake?

ALI25- what's happening on the job front? the house front? how is Tori? Did you get her into a daycare?

alrighty, I want another G&T.
Sorry to hear Pat's not well, and POOR NIXON! how are coping Nickers??

alrighty then, Ciao bellas!

Hi there,

Well, i think my run of good sleeping has come to an end! I got 5 nights so i should be happy with that. The night before last he was waking every 40mins. and last night he woke 7 times. He was pretty difficult to get settled again too. He has started pulling himself up in his cot and he loses his balance and falls and hits his head and screams, i dont know what i can do other than get the portable cot out and use that for a while until he grows out of it.
I have noticed that he has a really runny nose at the moment so i guess that could be the problem with his sleep.

i dont know what to do about this milk thing, i think i might have to start giving him another feed in the night, he seems to drink them all at night but im lucky to get him to have 60mls during the day! i dont know what else can do. He is a good weight though so i really shouldnt worry.

Nickel - just call me Donna, its probably easier. the wedding is coming up soon, im really looking forward to it!!

Mel- How funny about Chelsea!!! Thats great, they have such little personalities dont they. Hope you have a great time on your holiday. Im very jealous!!!

Nickers - i guess its good to know that there isnt anything majorly wrong with him and that he isnt too dehydrated but still, it would be good if they could find something that could be fixed at the same time. Give it time, he will get better, just give him lots of cuddles!

Bath - Great about the clothes, Verity is going to be the best dressed girl in town!!! Great to see you back too.

Amanda - People like that are usually people that dont have children or are so old that they have forgotten what children are like. NO ONE has perfect kids and they are entitled to have 'fussy' days too. you are on public transport so dont feel guilty. If people dont want to hear kids being kids then maybe THEY are the ones that need to drive or make their way around some other way. Please dont worry about it. I know its hard but like i said its nothing you are doing. Kids are noisy!

Dee - Glad you have reconsidered! I think we are all old enough to move on from this. you ARE part of the Junies!! Oh by the way i found a celebrant which is a relief *phew*. Most things are organised now!!

Ok guys, im going to go and do some housework. I am going out for a day on the water this afternoon with work, they do it every year (why do you think i went back to work at this time of the year! ha ha) its great, they put on Prawns and champagne etc. Mum and dad are coming down to babysit for me.

Hi all- I am slowly recovering from a flat out week. Worked 3 days this week, and really enjoyed it but it was tiring, each day was 160km round trip (just over an hours drive each way) but the good thing is that I might be getting a couple of permanent days at that school so fingers crossed for that.
Tori is still struggling to cut her top teeth and it is making her so cranky, poor little poppet, she has been waking in the night for up to 2 hours at a time and her fever (low grade) keeps coming and going, hopefully she gets a tooth soon as payment for all her suffering.

Nickel- You can just call me Ali, I am actualley 27 now so I might even look at getting my user name changed.......lol

Mel- you must be so excited about your holiday. There is nothing lilke finally going away after you havebeen anticipating it for so long, good luck with the bathers shopping when you get there.

Nic- I hope Nixon is better soon, poor little man. Must be so frustrating not being able to do anything or give him anything to make him better.

Donna- A day on the water with prawns and champagne sounds lovley. Have you tried giving the bottle in the cot during the day? I know we went through a patch where Tori would only take her bottle if she was lying in her cot or her pram?

Dee- Good luck with Uni, I actualley really miss studying, I will probably go back and specialise in something not sure what though yet.

Bath- I am sure Verity thought that all her christmas' had come at once.

Amanda- You need to feel sorry for that man, because obviously he never had the opportunity to have a family of his own, otherwise he would understand that sometimes children cry and sometime there is nothing you can do about it. Remember it was his problem not yours.

I went to my first scrapbooking class last night and I am HOOKED in a big big big way, I cant wait to get on and start putting other pages together for Tori's Album. After I have got Tori's album well under way I am going to start one for Pete and I with some pics fro when we first got together right through our engagement wedding, honeymoon and then start including pages with Tori and any subsequent kids we have.

Anyway I had better go, it is my Niece's 3rd bday party tomorrow and I am yet to finish buying her present. I hope all are well!

Good Afternoon :)

Hi Ali: Hope you found a niece pressy for your niece and enjoy the party tomorrow. 160km! Good grief! That must have been exhausting in itself. DH and I have become so soft regarding car travel that crossing the city here leaves us feeling thoroughly exhausted. We only do about 20km per week, if that (that doesn't include the odd trips we do across town to visit friends and relatives... just our basic weekly trips: Little Athletics and shopping). Hope Tori's teething pain is easing, she might be in for a rough time... molars are usually the worst. Niall hasn't had too much suffering yet (he has 6 teeth now) ... my other two only suffered with their molars. Niall still gives me the odd bite though when feeding which happens as teeth are breaking through. Good luck receiving extra days at the school too!

Donna: Hey it sounds like Lauchlan is getting the hang of resettling though... don't worry... all babies go through phases. Even Wade has recently gone through a phase of waking up every night at 4am. He needs to be taken to the potty at about that time too ( I take him after I give Niall his 3am feed)... but Wade has gone through a bit of a fragile phase associated with fear of wetting the bed. He's been having unsettling dreams too and some times he's up and down like a yoyo. Nothing ever stays the same for long with kids... I'm sure Lockie will get back into a better sleeping groove again soon.

I'll finish off the personals later girls... am baking biscuits which I haven't been able to do in ages because of the heat... got to put another batch in.

ali - travelling as part of the job is SOO exhausting! You must be nackered. I hope you do get more work - fingers and toes crossed for you!
And it's all over once you get hooked on scrapbooking! It's HEAPS of fun (ask Nickers) just finding the time can be interesting... but it's a really cool way to keep your memories I think. And I like how you can just mount photos or write a whole heap of stuff, either way they make great inheritances for your kids.

Donna - you poor thing! poor lauchlan, he's probably wondering why standing up is hurting so much! The portacot sounds like a great alternative! and I hope you enjoy your rather grownup afternoon, *sigh* I'm a bit jealous!

ali - travelling as part of the job is SOO exhausting! You must be nackered. I hope you do get more work - fingers and toes crossed for you!
And it's all over once you get hooked on scrapbooking! It's HEAPS of fun (ask Nickers) just finding the time can be interesting... but it's a really cool way to keep your memories I think. And I like how you can just mount photos or write a whole heap of stuff, either way they make great inheritances for your kids.

Donna - you poor thing! poor lauchlan, he's probably wondering why standing up is hurting so much! The portacot sounds like a great alternative! and I hope you enjoy your rather grownup afternoon, *sigh* I'm a bit jealous!

Sorry (again!) Amanda3 has LAUCHLAN,but how do you spell it? I'm sorry if I've been misspelling it, I'm trying to make an effort to remember who everyone's kids are!!

Gee it sounds so weird when you ladies say 160km is a long trip...here in the country that is just a drive!

Canberra Show update!
EMILY 1st place
HOVALLO 3rd place (didn't really expect him to do well)
SALVADORE 2nd place
MANDATE 2nd place.

Pretty wrapped here.

Hi Jess, did you go over to Canberra too? They are great results, you must be so proud :) The reason our car travel is so minimal is because I don't drive... the car just sits in the garage/driveway between Mon-Fri. I've lived in the country (mainly when I was younger... until I was 18) and covered a lot of miles then (driven across Australia about 7 times) but petrol was a lot cheaper way back then. I remember back in 1983 being gobsmacked at the price of petrol on the Nullabour plains: 50c a litre!!! (in Tamworth it was only about 27c. I remember my stepfather saying "just as well we brought our own fuel".

hey jess - awesome results!
Your cheeks must be sore from grinning! how exciting!

Nickel

Nah we didn't get to Canberra this time.But we did go up to check everything is fine on the farm...Same deal tomorrow, make sure everything is fine.

I really should make notes as I read thru the threads, now I can't remember what i wanted to say but anyway a big hello to everyone.Will just reply to this page.
Amanda - what a rude person!
Jess - great results. How's Patrick now?
Nic- Poor Nixon and poor you. How are you coping time wise doing the tupperware, keeping the house clean for inspections and looking after Nixon? Hope it's not too stressful for you.
Dee -glad your orientation went well. you have every right to be proud that's an amazing feat to have good children thru a uni orientation.
Mel - I have not yet had the courage to sell anything on ebay.Lol @ the headache.
Nickel - I also just stick to the zone and missions (if I get around to it at all that is)Dee78 - I hope Lachlan gives you some more of those restful nights, I'm finding Nathan not feeding much in the day lately and has been wanting more at night. Don't know how to go about changing that. lachlan sounds like a good weight. Nathan is 9.5kg, plenty there in case he gets sick.
Ali - I hope you get the job, that would be great. I would love to do scrapbooking did a couple of pages years ago but found it a bit expensive, but lately I have stocked up on some stuff when there have been sales.
Bath - I remember the days of 27cents a litre. Hope your bikkies turned out well, I wish I was motivated to do some baking. I used to love coming home from school to find mum had baked something. I feel I'm robbing my children from that experience. I'm not a very organised person. I must work on that one.

Happy 8 months Nathan
Pat is still sick, wheezing and trying to get his breath but much better after the other night. We were ready to put him in the car cause he couldn't breath when he threw up everywhere, he has been much better since.

Jess- Glad Pat is not as bad as he was, hope he gets better quick.

Nixon finally has started to get his appetite back and now vomitting but the pooing has gotten worse and he has bad nappy rash. Last night he was absolutley screaming when he weed or pooed and trying to change him and clean him up was terrible.
I stopped using wipes and used some diluted pinetarsel and water with cotton balls. have this extra special nappy cream that was like $16 a tube, well ive been plastering that on like cement, it seemd to help as i changed him about 3am, and by 9am he was hardly red. but then done 2 poos since and a bit red again.
Luckily i havent been too tired yet so extra care of Nixon + keeping house clean/tupperware etc has been ok. i know at any time tiredness could kick in and it will stop me in my tracks so just doing it all whilst i can!

happy 8months Nathan. He he crawling/slithering yet i cant remember?
Nickel- i think Donna's boy is LACHLAN and Amanda's is LAUCHLAN
Amanda- how did u go with Keilan?

Hi there,

Well im sitting here at work feeling sorry for myself. I had one too many champagnes last night and i have a really bad headache and im sooooo tired im thinking of getting under the desk for a snooze. Seriously! My boss isnt in today, ive had two phone calls and its really really quiet so i dont think anyone will notice if i put my head down!

We got home at about 12.30 and i got to bed and asleep by 1.30. Lachlan was up again at 2.15 and then 4.15 and then 5.30 and then 7. Im over this!!

Nickers - Poor little Nixon, i really hope he gets better soon. I find a nice warm face washer on the bottom and some Zinc and CAstor oil cream works wonders. Lachlan has not had nappy rash yet!!

Karen - Yeh im not too worried about the milk thing, like you say, he is a good weight and is healthy and active so im sure that there isnt anything wrong.

Jess - What great results at the show!!!

Bath - Ah those were the days. 27c per litre!!

Ali - Im crossing my fingers for you that you get some permanent days.

Ok ladies, im going to just put my head down on the desk for 10 minutes or so......

Dee are you still snoozing?

Did check on farm....still no crias :( but at least the kids sort of behaved...the 2 big adult kids dint help the situation.....DH's best mate is the manager across the road and between him, DH and the other 6 children, I swear I had 8 children.
DH and his mate ended up kicking the ball that the kids were playing with up into the tree and I had to climb up and get it down.....bloody irresponsible men!!!!!!
I ended up doing all the bloody work while they tended to the children....Patrick is I suppose a bit better today, at least I can get him to laugh.
Talk to everyone soon

Ah Jess, where would men be without us??
Im glad Pat is feeling a bit better, poor thing!

i did have a little snooze on the desk! I woke up a bit more re freshed.

Im starting to get a bit frustrated with lachlan only drinking his bottles in the night though, i have had to start giving him a second feed again now and he still wont drink it in the day!!

Lachlan has a cold today, we didnt go to playgroup, he really isnt well, hope it clears up soon!

I'm back from my 'long weekend' - what BLISS it was down there near the Prom! Met some great new people and got to know others better (a few families go to the same house every year, same time of year, and we were invited by one of them, as well as knowing one of the others through this first family, and a couple of others were first timers, too). Much musing, discussion and merriment was had by all. What a recharge!
Mel - have you managed to log on yet? Hope not, stay away from all reminders of real life until you get back!
Donna - I hope Lachlan stars to play ball soon :(
Jess - glad Patrick is on the improve.
Nickel - that is awesome that you are gunning for being a counsellor! So glad that you got a second pick at the cherry with BFing Ruby :)
Bath - I don't think I can forget your story about having Wade crying on the train whilst pg! I had that in mind reading about Amanda's bus trip, and I can well imagine that it would put a major dent in your day to realise that people CAN be miserable and try to get others to wear their misery - poo to them!
Oscar had a great time at the beach and ate plenty of sand whilst being entertained by little girls while the adults played bocce on the beach. My GF gave me a set as a present, so there'll be bocce playing on our lawn out the back from here on in!
Well, glad to see everyone made it through another weekend - I have to have a shower and get rid of beach hair stickiness. Back at school, too, so I'll be lurking whilst reading text books!
Have a lovely Monday night :)

Good evening :)

DH will be late home tonight because he's printing piccys off for Verity's homework, hmmm, this isn't going to become a regular thing: she'll just have to use the school printers I think despite her claims that the quality isn't as good as DH's work printers. The way she goes through ink here at home there is no way I'm going to try to keep up with her "needs". Oooh bad mummy... but honestly, her school is happy for her to print out homework there so I'm going to insist she does. You wouldn't believe the dramas we've had over this issue... good grief and this is only term 1! Still she's going on camp (Myrtleford) for a week soon and I'll miss her never-the-less!

Karen: Biccys were just my "throw in what-ever needs using up" bulk recipe. Makes about 40 standard round biccys. The basic mixture is nice and chewy like Mrs Fields... but instead of paying $2.40 each the whole batch usually costs about $2.40 (conservative estimate if I use generic brand ingredients). If you throw in indulgent extras like chocolate and macadamia nuts it will make it a lot more expensive but a nice cheap option is to just use crushed nuts/and or coconut which is what I used this time. I'm keen to learn to cook more bulk recipes... Verity has been "cheap to run" until about a year ago... now she has huge portions, eats more than me! I'm starting to wonder if we'll be able to feed the boys when they turn into locust-like teens!
Oh and I'm not a terribly organised person though... I tend to function better under pressure... just as well, sometimes it doesn't matter how organised you 'think' you are when you're a mum: things still get chaotic!

Jess: what's the latest with Pat? Oh and men are like kids: gotta praise the good and ignore the bad (within reason). When my DH does something incredibly mature I make a point of saying how "attractive" it is... seems to be working here ;)

Nickers: How's Nixon? And his nappy rash? Still bad? Unfortunately the best creams are exxy. I use Sudocrem... but have also discovered that PawPaw cream is good too. I meant to say before that I buy most of my Tupperware secondhand (due to budget constraints)... I soak them in Milton, they come up looking ace. Sorry I couldn't join you with your parties... I'd be just too tempted, it's such a good product. How's your all-day-sickness? I remember when most of us were suffering.... we nearly all had the same kinda cravings... maybe your In-Liven will help with that? I've read a lot about how women who eat a good balanced diet suffer less... just avoid a diet of salt and vinegar chips! OOOh the memories are still so fresh! LOL

Dee78: LOL at you sneaking a nap... sometimes 15 mins really helps huh? Remind me how Lockie is eating? What has he tried? Regarding the night feeds... just try to give the bare minimum I guess... I'm sure there's some really good advice to be found in other BB threads though. I'm lucky in that Niall is needing less at night now... he still has a 3am feed... but rolls over within a few minutes (he feeds in bed with me) ... it actually just seems more like he is 'touching base' with me more than anything. Then when he wakes up I give him as much cereal as he'll take... then give him a top up drink after that before his 10am nap... I guess i just try to keep him eating as much as I can through-out the day... this has the desired follow-on effect of him not needing as much at night.

Nickel: How's lil' Ruby? I can't recall how her progress is going with solids either... you don't seem to be having too many issues :)

IK: OOoh you get away so much! It just seems too hard for us... and Verity has Little Aths every Saturday which is limiting. But keep it up... anything to recharge those batteries especially now that you're studying again... what subject are you doing?

DH walking in the door... I need to make sure he's fed... I made a large chicken and vegie pie from scratch today... once again MUCH cheaper and healthier than buying supermarket ones... and twice as high... and has mushrooms.... love mushrooms :) Nighty nite everyone!

Bath - when you're a kid, you just have no concept of printer ink...I'm harking my mind back to this conversation with my dad...but funnily enough, it didn't sink in until I was out of home operating my own printer!
Yeah, we do get away a bit lately. I was only saying this today to my GF as we were walking back for the last time to the beach house. We went away for Australia Day, away this weekend, I'll be gone with my sister up to East Gippsland to visit my mum next weekend, the weekend after next we'll be in Bendigo for the fire brigade state champs and then soon after that the running team (the crew who'll be at Bendigo) will head off for a camping trip again. It's sort of making me feel a bit decadent, but then again, I tell myself that we're just making the most of it, school's back and winter will provide less outdoor fun for Oscar. And dammit, it's summer! One of these days DP will be working again and when he's in the throes of job boredom or stress, he can think back to these times :) Also, I'm getting really good practice at keeping the 'Oscar packing' really simple! The most complicated we get with taking him is bringing the buggy for daysleeps.
I DID miss my swim class (even though I got to book in for a family play swim on Thursday night as a compensation), though, but apart from that it was a free weekend (as in, nothing else planned, we DID have to pay our share of the rental!) and a mini-celebration, so it had to be done! It will be harder when we have more kiddies and they have separate interests etc. Oscar is the lucky one, but he's the eldest and it just goes with the territory ;) DP and I are both eldest siblings, so are not really able to relate to the experiences of younger siblings...but I am sure we will make up for it to them plenty!! Oooh, that just became another muse topic - any thoughts?

Aaaah yes IK, I remember those care-free days of one small bubba... it was all so easy back then.. and I'm sure Bath and Karen, Jess and 7th are all musing and remembering how easy it was with 2 kids only....
Giorgia has dancing every Sat morning so we don't get away that much... but I don't know that we would anyway!

Ruby is going really well, almost sort of sitting and getting very frustrated at herself for not crawling. She really just wants to be held on my lap all the time though. Still no teeth...but lots of babbling so here's hoping she does something on schedule! She only weighs about 7kg and is still in mostly 00's though we noticed all the 000's are really too small now.
We STILL have to get our 4 and 6 month immunisations so I'm aiming to do that on Thursday... ah slackness. fortunately Giorgia never gets really sick, and Ruby seems to take after her.

All 3 of us girls went swimming today - trying to make it our Monday morning thing, and then we all had a shower together when we came back. I think they enjoyed the shower more than the pool the funny little people!

Bath - I thought you wrote chicken and vegie patch and had to re-read that it was a pie from scratch... perhaps it's bedtime for me!

Nickers - still thinking of you and your little man (and your big one too!)

Jess - men! well that's all I need to say really, it speaks for itself, sometimes they are just sooo dumb? or just unaware I think! and why did YOU have to climb the tree??
Where were they?? Just part of your day huh?

Ciao beautiful bellas! See you later this week - after my work days!

good afternoon... 1 finger typing.... Niall has the grizzles and velcro syndrome... been out all day... then had a nap with Niall (good ole PlaySchool babysat Wade)... might get on again later tonight...all's well :) I miss Mel already!

Howdy all - it looks like its been a busy past few days!

First up my mini personals - :hello: hello to Ali, Amanda, (absent) Mel, Jess, Dee, Dee, Karen, (long-absent) Ceecee, Nickel and IK

DH has updated our website to include photos of what our kitchen USED to look like here: [URL="http://s95.photobucket.com/albums/l160/Mikkenror/?action=guestlogin"]I think you all have the password (ps: my username). Bath, you will see I completey understand when you say you are not motivated to keep a place clean when you don't like your surroundings LOL!!

I found out today a guy at work and his wife have to go through IVF to have a baby - it tore my heart. It was just the other day I was saying to DH and a GF (in a moment of hard-ar$ed career woman-ness) that I don't think having a child is something that completes your life or is something you can't live without, and that I could imagine a life without Flynn as much as one with him, even though I wouldn't change my life for anything else right now. After thinking about the heartache this couple are going through I think I have to take it all back - my little boy is so precious to me! I guess I am still finding my way with this whole motherhood journey.

Had a funny moment this afternoon - I got home from work and DH had to go out so I had a shower in our downstairs bathroom with the intention of taking Flynn in with me when I was done. I dutifully got all I needed, took the ironing board out of the bathroom so it wouldn't fall on Flynn and put him on the bathroom floor with all the doors closed so he could crawl around while I showered. Well! I never counted on the fact that our shower door opened OUTWARD, and that despite the toys I put on the floor for him Flynn would want to crawl right next to the shower door to smile and coo at me!! I was trapped in the shower by a baby's grinning face being pushed up against the glass door LOL!!! In the end, I managed to push him out of the way and squeeze past him and safey get him in with me.

Better go, got stuff to clean and prepare for tomorrow - gotta ring a journo about body corporate laws - might see me in print soon girls!

Well we had an interesting day!
Spent a good part of the morning boxing up Mars Chocolates for our Kinder's fundraiser(Anyone want to buy any? They are only $4 a box)
Then we headed up to Jaegar where we have got 2 brand new crias. Warnie and Latte( Warnie's mum is called Simone and Latte's mum is called Nelly!)