Babies Born March 16th-31st 2009 #2

Phoenix - thankyou, i hope she doesnt get sick for a long time again too!!!

JB - i feel for you, ive had mastitis twice...just make sure you massage the breast as much as you can (even though it hurts), and get onto the antibiotics straight away...i did that the 2nd time and it was so much easier than the first time...
just wondering, how did you know that Immy was teething...Amelia is starting to really aggressively chew on her hands, but i cant see or feel any teeth just yet...

hope all of you had a great weekend, and are enjoying this great weather we are having at the moment :)

We didn't actually know know until we were at the doctors staring at a tooth so I'm no expert haha but she had been doing a few things that looking back were probably signs like excessive drooling, chomping on anything that got in range, more frequent dirty nappies, general unsettledness, becoming quite clingy and occasionally waking up crying (appearing to be in pain). I thought she was going through a wonder week at first but grew more concerned when it seemed like she wasn't her usual self which is why we asked the doc... I didn't really think it could be teeth although I had had a few comments that it might be because I thought she was too young!

The nappies were VERY different and although I have read that there is debate about whether this is a symptom of teething there was no mistaking that Imogen had a change! She went from once every 5-7 days to about 5 in the space of an hour (this was the morning we went to the doctor) and continued a high frequency for a few days past that. She didn't have a raised temp.

I hope Amelia is feeling better soon!

I'm feeling a lot better and we had a pretty nice weekend. Saturday we went to the shops and met my parents for lunch. Sunday we did the Spina Bifida walk and wheel along the river and then had friends over for the afternoon (playing guitar hero haha).

Imogen rolled the opposite way the other day (over her right side rather than over her left) so now I am wondering whether it was the first time or I just hadn't noticed before! It was actually really funny... me and DP were laying on either side of her while she was on her tummy, urging her to roll towards us! She rolled towards me twice and DP said it was because she could only go that way and turned her back onto her tummy but with her head facing the opposite way to see if now she would roll to him but nope, she rolled over to me for a third time!

He is getting really good with her. About two weeks ago, he noticed her books and questioned me "she is too little to be read to surely?" but I told him I had been doing it basically since he had gone back to work! So he scooped her up and read her a book. After he turned to me amazed and just said "I can't believe I have missed 4 months of doing this!" It was so very, very cute.

We are struggling a bit with Imogen's feeding and sleeping. It is all so unpredictable and I think I am mostly to blame. She is still feeding almost 2hrly but I started to stretch it out this weekend and we are at mostly 3-4hrly. I was really using food as a soother and so after baths, after drives, after anything different that occurred I would offer her food... turned her into a bit of a boobaholic. We are also trying to be more persistent and consistent with getting her to sleep! She is napping right now actually, hooray!

What sort of bedtime do all of your bubs have? We have been aiming for between 7 and 8 but it is like 2-3hrs of up and down (sleeping for 20-30mins and then needing resettling) so she doesn't get properly down till about 10pm... She has about 3 days sleeps - one at about 8, one at about 11 and one at about 2... two are for an hour and one is for about two hours - should we try to cut this down?

Sorry for mega long post, hope everyone had a lovely weekend xo

Jb good to hear your feeling better.
Kodi is the same with the boob, i think it's more of a comfort thing for her since she refuses a dummy.

Kodi goes down after M has gone to bed, otherwise M just wakes her up, as for day naps Immy will cut her day naps down when she's ready. I wouldn't worry about it, sounds like your doing an excellent job with her :)

i keep meaning to pop in here, but time gets the better of me.

I'm Ange, i'm 31. I have two beautiful girls about the same age as Mo's! *hi Mo*.

I might try and slot in here if you ladies don't mind. :D

Yay Ange about time you got your butt in here!

bbl Maddi is trying to brush Kodi's hair again.

Welcome Ange :)

Not much happening here! DD is getting better at going to bed, though. We just kept persisting with the 7pm bedtime and eventually, it stuck haha

Hi All,

I'm new to this site so I just though i'd introduce myself. Shannon, 23, dd- Olivia is born March 09, She also has a Older sister Mackenzie who lost her battle with a heart condition in March 08 at 2months.

Welcome Shannon & Olivia. I'm so very sorry for your loss.

Well i'm sick with the icky flu & to make it worse i have a sore throat & i can barely talk cause it hurts so much :(
In other news Kodi now rolls both ways & she thinks she's so clever that she can roll from one side of the room to the other lol.

Welcome Shannon, sorry about little Mackenzie must have been heartbreaking

Mo thats so cute about Kodi, :D Ella too has rolled halfway across the room before i can blink. Might be time for me to think about baby proofing the house

Ella tends to go to bed between seven and eight and is awake between five and six, except the other morning when she slept till 1/4 past seven and it happened to be the day we needed to be out of the house by 1/4 to eight. We were rushing around like mad people. Babies LOL, i wont trust her to my alarm clock again :lol:

Nothing much else happening here, 5 months on Tuesday though, where is the time going??

Welcome Ange and Shannon,

We are enjoying our holiday and Alexandra is loving the cuddles and all of the attention from all of the relatives. It is very funny to see her reaction to seeing new things, especially animals like cats, dogs and an aquarium full of fish.

We had 4 month needles the other day and it was nowhere near as traumatising as the first ones. We went to a new doc and Alexandra only screamed for about 10 seconds all up as opposed to at least 10 minutes last time. The doctor had a stash of toys under her desk to distract the kids and they worked wonders. The doctor weighed Alexandra and she is now 8kg - she stopped short of calling her fat, but advised to extend feeds out to 3-4 hourly. I'm not too worried about it because she is off the charts in all her measurements not just weight, was a bigger than average baby when she was born and her feeds are out to 4 hours apart. Interesting that we haven't had any comments from the other doctors we've seen or the MCHN that we see every 2 weeks.

We start to put Alexandra to bed at 7pm and she wakes up somewhere between 5am and 7am with 1 or 2 night feeds.

Mo, hope you get better super quick and JB, hope the mastitis is all cleared up now

Thanks for the welcome ladies. :D

Hi Shannon, i am so sorry for the loss of your precious daughter. What a tough time you must have had. :hug:

JB- we aim for 7 here too, but someimtes it is 6 and sometimes 7.30. But around there is good!

Kellbell- i have no idea why, but the little monkeys ALWAYS sleep in when you have to be somewhere, but never any other time. :doh:

Mo- we've been sick too. I had mastitis, Lu has a chest infection and Sas has snot city going on! Hope Nelle's soup helps. ;)


Sas goes down around 7 and wakes once or twice for a feed. We all generalyl begin the day around 7am. Lu kind of dictates that with all the noise she makes when she wakes up! She is no retireing flower that's for sure. :lol:

Shannon - Welcome to you and Olivia. I am so sorry to hear about the loss of your daughter, Mackenzie. :hug:

Mo - Hope you are feeling better soon! Nothing harder than looking after others when you aren't feeling well yourself.

kellbell - That happens here all the time! Any day there is nothing on, she will be up at 5am but if I need to be somewhere by 10 she will snooze till past 9... crazy, isn't it?

Justine - We should catch up for coffee again when you get back from your holiday :)

Not much else to report. Went to the BellyBelly Brisbane Meet-up today and it was good fun! Even took DF with me haha but he wanted to escape after about 30minutes there so we left pretty early. We are getting pretty good with bedtime now at 7pm, trying to be consistent is helping. I ripped half of one of my nails off and it is a PITA! Hurts a lot and now I'm scared to use that hand in case it rips entirely off haha.

Kell i'm lucky our house is already baby proof, shame it's not toddler proof. Kinda annoying how quickly Maddi picks things up now lol

Justine glad you & Alexandra are enjoying your holiday & Maddi was a chubba bubba as-well. As soon as she started crawling her weight gains slowed down & she's always been above average as-well.

Ange Bummer about the mastitis, Lulu's chest infection & Sassy's snotty nose, hope you all feel better asap. Nelle's soup was lovely & it's about the only thing i can eat at the moment.

JB ouch, have you tried putting a band aid while the nail grows back? Glad you had a good time at the meet-up, i'm hoping to meet the lovely Linda in few months time & i'm meeting the wonderful Amber(Boomba) in 2 weeks so really looking forward to that.

Ended up going to the DR's last because i couldn't talk, eat, drink swallow i'm on anti b's now, but it's already hit my ears
Oh well at least i'm not sitting here with a temp of 38.9 shivering because i'm so cold like i was last night.
Thanks for all the get wells ladies :)

hi all! welcome Ange and Shannon!
hope all you siickies are well again soon!
we just jad 5 nights in darwin which was lovely but busy - stayed with friends in their 2 bedroom apartment with them and their 4yr and 20mth old kids!
Susie was great on the flights! fed taking odd both times and she was asleep not long after we were in the air! 1st flight was awake for a couple of hours with tummy pains but panadol burps and spews helped that then she slept the last hour and didnt wae till we were walking off the plane! 2nd flight she was awake about 20 minutes when they were bringing food around yjen slept 3 hours and fed the way down! yay susie! she loed the weather though and not wearing layers of clothes lol! went swimming a coupe of times..borrowed swim nappy and rashie suit for her from my friend! she looed so cute! didnt take a pram cause didnt want to risk loss/damage to ours so just used the sling and we were fine with that :) she slept a lot in it! not sure she happy to be in cold weather again lol!

Susie gave us a scare yeserday too. dh was holding her and she stared choking so he yelled for me but as she stood up she threw up everywhere! still was funny for a while after that and a big burp came! shes on zantaz now too cause we yook her to emergwency night before we went to darwin cause there was dried blood in her spitup. it seems to be helping a bit, less spewing in general! she also had a weekend callout to iro just before we left cause she was holdomg arm funny...turns out her elbow was out ouch!

but aside from those traumatic things Im positive she has grown and she has really taken up suealing and laughing more now! its delightful to watch :) grabs for toys and reacjes for me when someone else has her and shes in a mummy mood! so cute :)

Mrs C, sounds like you had a great trip away & i hope the zantac helps reduce Susie spewing.

I didn't think i could get any worse but i have, i have to start forcing myself to drink or i have to goto the hospital & get a drip put in. There is nothing more the hospital or doctors can do because i'm b/fing. So i'm just praying the Anti B's kick in very soon.

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Oh Mo that sounds terrible :( Have you got any ice cubes or iceblocks to suck on?

We went out & brought some icypoles. So at least i'm getting some fluids in now :)

:hug: Mo, hope you are feeling better soon!!

And yep, got 3 bandaids layered on my finger haha

We are getting lots of "talking" lately! It is so very cute and if I try really, really hard then I can pretend she is articulating proper words ;) hahaha

JB i like to think Kodi says Mama all the time lol so i'm sure Immy is saying Mama among other things as well lol.

Kodi is fast asleep, just waiting for the terror to finish her noodles before she starts to wind down for bed.

Hope all the Mummas & Bubbas have a good nights sleep tonight :)

Awe Mo, you poor thing. Did you get the gastrolyte icypoles from the pharmacy? They would be good. Hope you start to pick up tomorrow. :hug:

Hope you feel better today Mo :hug:

The anti B's are startong to kick in, i woke up this morning after 4hrs straight sleep (which was great because i haven't been able to sleep any longer than 1hr since i got sick) & i could swallow without closing my eyes, putting pressure on my ears & tensing my body up. It still hurts to swallow etc... but i can push through this pain.
On the downside Kodi has a case of the sniffles & a dry cough, praying she doesn't get what i had.
Thanks again for all the well wishes ladies xxx

My Ella has a middle ear infection and is teething, what a horrible day we have had :cry:

Cant wait for this day to be over, hopefully some sleep comes our way tonight!

Thanks for the welcome!

It has been a tough ride! I went into labour with Olivia pretty much exactly a year after mackenzie passed away. She is born the day after! So there were a few mixed emotions! Olivia has also not been the easiest baby (colic, reflux, refuses to sleep) which has made it a bit harder to adjust! But where getting there!

Sorry to hear about all these mums and bubs being sick! hope everyone is feeling better soon!

Hi ladies! I have been MIA for ages I know but have been lurking a bit on and off. It is good to see this forum going so strong!
I would like to join in again if that is OK.
I realised that I am not making contact with many mums. So busy with stuff. Working a bit here and there. Hubbies birthday do, Dad moving house, just stuff.....
Tirion is a bright little girl. She tries to feed herself solids and makes a real mess!

Sorry to hear about all the sickness! Hope all are better soon.

Bron xxx

Welcome back super pumpkin :)

Just a quick question - how much are all of your bubs sleeping during the day?

I aim for 2-3 naps during the day but each time involves a bout of screaming and me singing twinkle twinkle for around 10mins before she falls asleep and then she wakes up after only 30mins of being asleep (whether she is in my arms/carrier/put down in cot) :wall: I know that this is common but has anyone had any success getting them to sleep longer? Maybe keeping them awake for longer so that they are more tired or something like that?

JB - We are back in Bris now, would love to catch up

So, I had a wisdom tooth pulled today! FUN... not. Okay, so it wasn't too bad and needed to be done but I just wish it would stop bleeding so I could eat something haha.

We usually get 3 naps during the day at 9am for about an hour, 11am for about an hour and 2pm for a couple of hours. Then bed between 7 and 8pm, one feed sometime between 11pm and 5am (it varies quite substantially but is usually just the one) and then up for the day between 7 and 8am. Last night was 7:30pm till 6:30am although I didn't sleep too good because of my stupid sore teeth!

I wonder why we have wisdom teeth when every second person I know has had to have them out. Grr!!

And yep, ff, we will have to catch up... hopefully, my tooth doesn't give me grieve for too much longer.

Hope all the sick Mums and bubs are feeling better xo

ewww jitter! hope you feel better soon and the bleeding stops! if you have soup have it watm not hot cause the heat can start up the bleeding again apparently!

we had 4 month immun today! drank the liquid like a pro! screamed intensely witrh jabs but settled quickly then had a feed! got confirmation of teething...bottom two are on the move apparently! so poor bubba is dealing with teething, needles on top of her reflux and wind problems! been an awful afternoon and am sure it will continue through the evening!

Bleeding has stopped. I'm living on jelly haha.

Oh forgot to mention this but Imogen rolled from her back to her tummy the other day and has a few times since! It looks a bit unco-ordinated and awkward but she will get there haha

JB glad the bleeding has stopped, at least you get to live on sweet things for a day or 2.
How cute of Immy, Kodi is the same but she gets her stuck & can't roll right over looks cute.

Welcome back Pumpkin.

Justine Kodi has 3 naps a day sometimes 4. She's big on sleeping unlike her sister.

Mrs C glad Susie went well with her needles, Kodi pretty much spat out the liquid, she's hates anything other than the boob & her hands in her mouth.

Took Maddi to the paed on Tuesday(won't bore you with the details) & while we were there, i got him to check out Kodi's head.
Her head is growing slowly, but she's in the 25% now. So we are to get her head measured regularly.
That way they can get an idea of what her head is doing, as long as it's growing it's a good sign & she may just be a petite girl :)

Hi to all the other Mums & Bubs.

Olivia has 3 or 4 sleep during the day, usually 2 45mins and one 1 and 1/2 hours but in my arms/sling after 30 minutes of screaming usually each time before she will sleep!

Good to be back!
Mo I remember reading about the head circ thing. Miss T had the same measurement 2 months in a row. I just measured her again today and she has grown 2 cm this month. She is very petite all round (we are pretty small parents). I think the measurements and charts are just a guide anyway. I'm sure your blossom is fine!

JB - wisdom teeth are useless eh! I had all mine out with much pain each time (in the chair). The pain may make you wise!

Mrs C -wow you have had a rough time of it. I hope things get easier soon. Reflux is such a drain on your energy.

FF - As for sleep - Miss T is doing all night sleeps with a quick BF in middle hours sometime. Goes down 7.30 ish and wakes 6.30ish. During the day she sleeps around 9.30am to lunch time and down again in avo for a couple of hours. Then a nap in late avo is common too. No strict routine there. If I put in cot to self settle she cries a bit but eventually sleeps. Often feeds to sleep - no dummy just mummy like Kodi!

I often feed Kodi to sleep as she is such a booby girl.
SP-If the paed isn't too worried then i'm not going to worry either. She's above average for height, average for weight & below average for head circ so kinda hoping everything else slows or her head growth picks ups.
Don't want her to have a small head on a above average body IYKWIM.

We feed to sleep mostly here, too.

Yes we feed to sleep too!

We normally get two sleeps a day, normally a 2 to 3 hr in the morning and a hour or so in the arvo. somedays its a fight to get her to sleep and others days she goes down easily

We are back to the doctors today, Ellas ear is still sore :(

However She was 7.9kg yest and 68cm, so growing well
Our little babies are growing up so fast!

Wow kellbell- you are a great cow, 7.9kg is great! :) Ear infections are horrible. Is she on AB's?

Mo- Sorry i haven't messaged you back! Will do so today! We've all been sick too. After i had mastitis i got thrush in my throat. :o not very comfortable! But on the mend now. Lu's latest measurements put everything on average except her head........ but unlike Kodi her head is bigger than her body. Hope i don't end up with a bratz doll. ;)

funkeefrog- We're having about 3 day sleeps here. 45 min - 1 1/2 hrs is pretty standard. If your little munchkin is waking after one sleep cyle, a trick that worked for me with my older daughter, was to sit in there reading a book and when she was starting to stir i would pat her until she went back to sleep. After a couple of days she learnt to go back to sleep after one sleep cycle. Having said that, there was a couple of months when she just would not sleep longer than 45 min. So hopefully it is a phase that will end soon!

JB- wisdom teeth are not nice. i had 3 out, but i had a GA. It was horrible. Nice work on Imogen rolling. We've had a bit of rolling going on to. Often assisted by her big sister. ;)

Went to the paed last week. Sas has a terrible cough she has had since she born pretty much. We had a chest x-ray and all is clear. Dr pretty convinced it is due to reflux. Good to know it is nothing serious.

ugh i hate fridays! recycle bin collectors come so ewarly...7:30 after gettuing to sleep at 12 makes a tired bubby and mummy!

Susie sleeps are so over the place with stuppod wind reflux, but on a good day she usualyy has 8 - 10 hours at night, and a big nap in the morning with a couple of short ones afternoon/evening. feedming to sleep would be lovely but cant cause of her wind/reflux issues! she usually cries/whimpers to sleep uin our arms..gotta love continual overtired

yay thebleeding stopped JB
Mo glad to hear head is growing!!

Yes as i have found out this week ear infections are horrible :crying:
She has been on Abs since monday, does not seem to be working yet

When do you turn the car seat around is it 6 months? or is it based on weight?

Yes she is a little porky pie, it makes you feel good to know your own breast milk can do that :dance:

Based on weight Kell, i think it is 8kg form memory, but don't quote me on that. There are a lot of people that keep them rear facing up until 12 months, there is a video on utube showing the impact difference if you have a car accident. It is much safer having them rear facing. We turned Lu around at about 6 months though b/c she hated not being able to see us..........
If AB's are not working within 24hrs, i'd go back to drs, she might need different ones. It does make you feel good when you have great weight gains doesn't it. :)

MrsC- Were you up until midnight with an unsettled bub? You poor thing.