Babies Born March 16th ~ 31st 2008 #3

Leesa and Catherine - I can't believe you are both 20+ weeks preggas!!!! That is a nice time in the pregnancy though = well it was for me! Must be exhausting working too!

Will is moving about so quickly and confidently now. He is practically running! It happens so fast. He is so much happier now moving all on his own.

He is cutting his bottom right molar at the moment - he keeps pointing to where it is sore!

Two nights ago I moved him into his own room and stopped BFing at night. I was just too tired. The first night he through the biggest tantrum ever! He screamed and screamed for over one hour. The neighbours commented the next day. They said they had never heard him before but he woke them at 3am!!! A bit embarassing. He woke twice the next night but settled without such a fuss in about 20 mins. Let's hope tonight is better again! He is now in his room in the portacot. I thought we needed something different to completely stopped the constant feeding overnight. I still want to BF but i also desperately need my sleep! So enough was enough and we are having a go no extra feeds. The day before this I fed him 8 times!!!! I am way too soft with him! I will let you know who we go.

People who have been to sleep schools - a few of you went a few months ago - did it make a long term difference? Did it work for you? I would love to hear some feedback about your experiences because I really would like my little man to sleep again!

Better go and get some sleep myself.

We went to the sleep school in Jan. Yes there is a long term difference.
The main difference is that he is in his own room in his cot. He falls asleep by himself. With the help of the sleep school I learned to let him grizzle/cry, they would let him grizzle/cry upto 30 mins, I usually go in after about 5 - 10 mins and rewrap him. Most of the time I only have to do this once, sometimes not all, sometimes 2 or 3 times if he is really bad.
I'm not really tucking his arm in anymore just wrapping over it, usually by the time I am out the door his arms are out.
I think the fact that Dp keeps him up for 3-4 hours b/w sleeps has something to do with it aswell. You can imagine how upset he gets when I try to put him down after 2 - 3 hrs so 4 hrs it is :rolleyes:
In saying this he still wakes once or twice overnight (at the moment I am sleeping in his room and the nights I don't he wakes once) Then he wakes up anytime after 6am and is ready for the day.

HTH and if you want to know anything else let me know.

Hi guys,

Thought I'd pop in and say G'day.

Remember on my last post I said I had news, but that it wasn't another baby yet ...?

Well, guess what we got early this afternoon ....

:bfp:

:dance: :dance: :dance: :dance:

I - we - are utterly stunned as this was completely unexpected. We were going to "officially try" in about August! Having said that, we weren't using contraception as I needed hormonal drugs to help conceive Cam, and I assumed I'd need similar for another conception. Unfortuately I've got absolutely no idea how far along I am, or when I could be due - I didn't really get AF back since before Cam. Thought I had AF 3 weeks ago (very light bleeding ...), but obviously it wasn't. Anyway, we've been digesting this all afternoon - and yes, we're thrilled! I'm thinking that "all being well", I'll be due towards the end of the year/early next. I need to get to a doc to find out!

I did the pg test earlier today because I've felt totally off colour the past couple of days - thought I'd take a test just to rule it out (I was SO sure I wouldn't have been pg). I actually thought I had a touch of gastro again! You can imagine my surprise when two lines came up. After picking myself up off the floor, I took another test just to be sure :lol:. I'm still feeling crappola - I didn't get morning sickness with Cam - on a scale of 1 to 10, it was about a 1, for all of two weeks. This is about a 6 - I feel blurgh, but no throwing up (yet!).

So, looks like I'm joining the "two under two" club! Of course, IRL we'll be keeping this well under wraps until I'm past 12-14 weeks ... but I had to share with you guys.

Time for a few personals ...

Nic - how cute that D is fast becoming a cuddler and kisser! Cam has been a cuddler for a while, but I'm trying to get him to give us kisses. Sometimes I think he might be, but then he might just be taking the opportunity to slobber on my face instead ;). Good to hear things have settled down with D's sleeps.

M2W - what a relief for you that Will is happy and settled at daycare. Hope he is going ok with his tooth - it's not much fun for some bubbas, is it. Don't worry about the neighbours, if they haven't been through it themselves, I daresay they might one day! Good luck with him sleeping - I've been fortunate to have a good sleeper, so I can't offer much help.

Leesa - glad to hear you and your growing bubba are keeping well. Take good care of yourself and take it easy! Glad to hear your nasty boss has disappeared for a while!

CM - I so understand our DS's fascination with ovens. My boy is always turning the clock/alarm button on. Thankfully it's difficult to turn ours on, so Cam hasn't worked it out. Glad to hear you are keeping well too. Gosh, you don't have long to go, do you! How exciting! Good luck with buying a house - it's a big step, but so worth it in the end.

Bec, Mel, Jo, Hayley, Macca, Laura, plus anyone else I've missed - hope you're all keeping well!

Will catch you all later,
Andie xx

just popping into say

:happyforyou: congragulations Andie and hope you have a happy pregnancy, hope the morning sickness doesn't last too much longer

:happyforyou:

OMG Andie you sly dog, :rofl:

congratulations!!!

BBL for personals ;)

xxx

HI girls, sooooo sorry I have bnne MIA for months and months.... I feel terrible, and you remembered Cohen's bday and still wished him a happy one even though I never check in anymore! Your all so sweet!!
I get so cought up in Facebook I never have time to do anything else online after I have finished there.
Are all our babies walking yet?? Cohen started on his 1st Bday! He never ceases to amaze me. Joel and I are trying for another baby. Hope to get a girl this time round. Fingers crossed.

How have you all been??
Whats the goss??

OMG Andie...YAY!!! :dance::happyforyou::dance: Thats so exciting!!


I need some advice on an issue that Cohen is having...I still feed him during the night. 1-2 feeds depending....If his teeth are giving him pain he'll have as many a 4 or 5!! :o I don't know what to do. I am sooooooooooooo SICK and TIRED of waking up during the night!! O.V.E.R IT!! it's been going on over a year now. Sometimes he will wake up, have 200ml only to wake up 40 mins later for another 150ml! :wall: :wall: Don't know what to do, should I make him go cold turkey, or tey to phase them out'? If so, how? Or should I offer him water instead, although have tried that and he just cracked it big time. I'm scared because I know it's going to take sometime (whatever it is that I try) and I'm not sure if I'm prepared to loose any more sleep than I already am. HELP???

Congrats on your pg Andie :) that's wonderful news!!!

GTG much to do hope you are all well :)

Hi Nina :)

Re: over night feeds...ummm!! That seems like a LOT of milk! Does he drink much during the day? Has he always done that or is it a new thing? Does he take water if that is all you offer him? I believe that any kind of changes that we try and make to their sleeping (well bed time things anyway) can take the better part of a week to get established. So whatever you try and do be prepared for it to take a while to make it work, and be consistent. I stopped feeding Flynn overnight about the time that I weaned him, purely a selfish reason but I didn't want to be making bottles overnight :redface: I pretty well went cold turkey. Just resettled with the dummy. I don't remember it being that hard...Or maybe I just blocked it out!! Probably doesn't help much.

Take care :)

yeah it is alot of milk!!! and I'm getting sick of it!!! Considering his formula costs $30 a tin and he has gone through 3/4 of it since Thursday!!! AAAAAAAAAAARRRRGGGGGGGGGHHHHH!!!
his max when his teeth aren't bothering him is 3 overnight. He doesn't have much during the day. I offer it to him but he isn't interested. He might have 2-3 full bottles but the rest he has about 20 or 30 mls and then he's over it!! He'll eat plenty of food though. Porridge, weet-bix or toast, bananas, bread sticks, biscuits...so on and so on. Pretty much what ever I eat he'll eat too. He LOVES water during the day, won't have a bar of it during the night though :doh:
might just have to go cold turkey and just be there for him to stick it out. I am dreading the no sleep thing though...

Just popping in to say a BIG CONGRATULATIONS to AndiE!!!

WOOT WOOT!!

I know I said I'd be back for personals :redface:

Nina, I don't blame you for being over the bottles overnight. I've just recently hit that point where i'm over even the once nightly feed, so I just went cold turkey and resettled him (by that I cuddle and pat Jake to sleep, but what ever you do). He does cry for a minute or two but usually if I get to him quick enough he's still sleepy so he drops off again. It might take a while to get it happening and he will most likely but VERY unhappy about it but if you are consistent it will pay off. At this age he doesn't NEED the feeds, it's more of a comfort thing. Oh and on the bottles during the day.....I could be wrong but with my kids at this age they have all (and Jake is too) been down to having one bottle a day of cows milk (usually before sleep after lunch) and then one at bedtime, so two bottles a day.

HTH, and that's exciting news about TTC :) I'm very excited for you all having the chance to TTC and have more kids ;) My time for that is over but I'm happy for you all and so glad we got to share the journey of pregnancy and birth of one of our kids together.

All is good here....haven't gotten Jake weighed but I imagine he's only 8.5kg, still my tiny tot :) He's a different personality again.....silent but deadly my Mum calls him, :lol:

DH signed a new apprenticeship contract today which is the best news we've had in a long time!!

Miss you all, life just gets too busy!!


xxx

Hi Girls
It?s quiet in our house at the moment. Mick is at work and both kids are in bed, so I thought I would take the opportunity to catch up with all the gossip

WOW ? congratulations Andie, hope the pregnancy is going well so far

Isabella is finally crawling ? commando crawling. She can get up on her hands and knees and rocks but that is it. She has four top teeth and two bottom teeth. I think she is going to be a little witch when she gets older. Isabella was in the bath the other day and she chuck a tantrum and I was dumbfounded. All it was I wanted was for her to sit up so I could wash her hair and she wanted to lie down. In the end, she didn?t get her hair washed.

Riley went to the speech therapist and she was really impressed on how much his speech has improved since she saw him in February. He is talking like a 2 year old instead of a 3 year old but we are getting there. He is also seeing a psychologist as we are having him assessed and they are also testing him for a spectrum of Autism and the reason we are having him assessed is because the paediatrician thinks that where Riley is going to preschool is not stimulating him enough. We need to get him into a preschool from three and up instead of a long day, day care centre where he goes to school now. The preschool that I want to get him into is booked up till next year.
We are also toilet training Riley. We started a week ago and we take it day by day. Today was a good day but yesterday it wasn?t so good. Mick put Isabella on the potty today, she did a wee, and she has done a poo on the potty as well. Normally she poos around lunchtime to Mick decided that he would feed her lunch on the potty so it was going in one end and coming out the other.

YAY ? we are finally can start building (again) today week. Its about bloody time. Its been dragging on forever. We brought a dishwasher back in September thru kleenmaid and guess what ? they have gone into receivership. Kleenmaid was holding onto the dishwasher for us till the house was built and now its looks like we have lost our dishwasher. NOT IMPRESSED.



If you don?t mind me asking Nina ? why haven't you put him onto cows milk? I think you either give him water thru the night or let him cry it out and you may have a sleepless night or two. I how that might sound harsh but the milk is just a comfort thing for him

Sorry about the lack of personals, I will catch up on them soon
Take Care
Jo

Just wanted to quickly drop in and say a massive congratulation to Andie!!! What lovely news!

Be back soon for more catch up.

love to all of you!x

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Hi all - gee, it's been quiet in our thread, hasn't it? Must have something to do with active toddlers keeping us busy ;).

I don't really have time for personals - we've got an open home tomorrow morning and I've been procrastinating half the day about getting stuck into housework :rolleyes: - but I just wanted to say a big thank you for all your messages of congratulations.

Everything seems to be going well, but compared to my easy pg with Cam, I'm not feeling the best - constantly fatigued, off-colour and ridiculously bloated (I do NOT remember that from last time!). Sorry, I'm whingeing. I'll get over myself soon! Thankfully DH is being sympathetic and helping out where he can.

Cam's got an ultra snotty nose but isn't too bad otherwise. He's just waking from his second sleep of the day - he's always mega-tired on Fridays. Three days of daycare certainly takes its toll on him in that regard. He's walking more and more and every day seems to walk further. He's so proud of himself, it's very cute to see.

Arrrgh. The housework is calling. Wish us luck that a potential buyer comes through tomorrow. We knocked an offer back last week - the guy apparently thought we'd be prepared to give the house away for a song! And naturally the real estate agent did her level best to talk us into selling. Pffffft. We've only had one open home, so fingers crossed tomorrow does the trick.

Have a great day/weekend everyone,
Andie xx

Congrats ANDIE.

WE will NOT be having another one anytime soon. If ever. E is a bit of a handful at the moment. But Ican't blame him, we did take him to the other side of the world and have him travelling for 24 and 28hours. At hte moment and when we first got there he was waking during the night and would not resetlle and would jsut squeal and get very upset. Our first night there I was up from 330am and would not resettle and was walking him in the Lobby at 530 as he was making so much noise. I gave up trying to get him to resettle and we started the day. This am he was up from 5am after being awake at 1-230. I have a cold still, have been sick most of the holiday. WE did have a good time though. It was a bit challenging to say the least.

We went to a sleep school and it has made a difference. I know he is being a horror at the moment but once he settled down he was waking 1-2 a night or going from 11-5/6am. HE settles well too. Torrens House in Adelaide is different as they don't do any CC but htey do allow the child to cry with you there. Active settling. Look at the KAritane website for tips. Or the Child and youth health page. They run the sleep school and we followed the routine strictly and it did help. We are not so strict now and he is sometimes only having one sleep but it is still mainly 2. I was having to feed E 90mins-2hourly overnight to get him to settle, if I tried water it would be about an hour and still not settling. Once I put him on the bottle and at TH he improved, plus he was being wrapped tightly. Try wrapping if you don't already. It does make a differnce. Use a single bed sheet. My motto is 'if they can breathe it is too loose':lol:. To settle E, I will put a hand on his chest to hold him in one spot if needed and jsut tap the cot mattress and shh, as he is not a fan of being patted htough this is changing. You can rock the cot too. Msot of the time now he will self settle with the dummy and his music. We have a glow-worm too which can be good to help stop him crying. If you use a dummy try a night light as maybe he will settle with that if he can see it. E loves his dummy. WE need to wean him off it. HE has it in all the time at the moment. with some breaks but he loves it.

E is not talking much, mum, da, good, go, or sounds like that. HE squeals too. HE can go from screaming to being adorable and flirting in 60seconds. It is quite annoying at times. E also shakes his head. Not walking yet but pulls himself up and sometimes will let go. Goes up onto one knee. He has 12 teeth and I think an eye tooth is niggling, not sure I am not allowed to look.

Anyway I have rambled enough.

Hi to everyone. If anyone wants more specifics on settling techniques feel free to Pm/ email me.

hi girls,

i just wanted to wish you all a Happy Mother's day :dance: :grouphug: for tomorrow ! i hope you all have a lovely day with your little bubbas (and older kids) and get a sleep in or breakfast in bed or whatever you desire, we are going out for lunch because for the last 3 years everyone (mother and mil and all family members etc) have come here and i have waited on everyone hand and foot so i said that isn't fair and this year i want to go out so i get looked after !

have a great day and i hope you are all well :-)

Melinda

Hahaha. Good for you Mel! I hope your lunch is wonderful, I'm sure it will be. I love having someone else do the cooking AND the dishes!
I hope all of the rest of you have a lovely day tomorrow too. My DH thought that it was last w/e! I'm expecting some yummy pancakes and jam which we bought at the farmers market today. The jam is strawberry and vanilla, it is so yummy!!!

Sounds good Mel, hope you are waited on all day and get to sleep in.

The Jam's sound nice Catherine, I am jealous mmmm I can just imagine how it taste.


As Mel said HOPE EVERYONE has a GREAT MOTHERS DAY.

I have just joined weight watchers so will be watching what I eat. I have already brought myself a new handbag for myself and will be getting some bathroom scales tomorrow - uhhh the things tha make me happy these days :p


Luey, I feel the same as you, I don't think I want another soon (or maybe ever!!) although dp would love to have one tomorrow but I have put him off until D turns 2 before we TTC. Glad Torrens House helped you, sounds similar to Trisillian and it does seem to have helped it.

Hi all,

Happy Mother's Day for tomorrow everyone - hope you all get spoiled rotten!

I'm just hoping my DH thinks of a better spot to hide my pressie. Last year he hid it in the ironing after I'd said I was going to iron the few things there (well, that's what I told him, but I was actually thinking "ironing, bugger off, it's Mother's Day). Admittedly he took me out for lunch, but after a bit of a barney from me late in the afternoon about not giving me a gift, he basically put the ironing basket at my feet and told me to look inside. And there I found a lovely card and $100 voucher to get a facial etc. I'm still not impressed he left his gift giving/fussing till Mother's Day became Mother's Night (shallow, aren't I!!) ... so I'm hoping he learned his lesson! Guess we'll see. At least, the ironing is up to speed, so it rules out that as a hiding spot.

All well here. Cam and I are recovering from a nasty cold and cough. We've been off work/childcare all week. He's now ok, but I can't shake my cough. Bugger pregnancy ... I want cough medication, boo hoo!! Cam's walking about 90 per cent of the time and is into EVERYTHING! Are any of you having trouble with feeding your toddlers? Cam is going through a mega fussy stage - it's very hit and miss as to what he'll eat and how much. Thank God he loves eggs - he gets them every second day, at least. Anyway, if others are going through this, what do you find works to get them to eat?

Bub wise, I had a scan on Thursday as I've had some very light spotting. Everything looks good. I can't get over how different I feel this pg - so very tired, and continually feel off colour right through the day. Not to mention lack of appetite, unmotivated etc etc etc. I'm told all this is "normal" ... so my pg with Cam must've been a dream - all I suffered was some mild fatigue early on. Hopefully it nicks off soon! Bring on week 12-14!!!

Hi to all - sorry for lack of personals. Have a great day tomorrow everyone.

Andie xx

Just so everyone knows it's still me NJD just had a name change.

Glad the scan gave you the ok catherine and hope you guys get better soon. I would like to say D is a good eater and mostly he is but he has his days where he eats less then others. I try not to worry about it too much, if after say 2 or 3 days he was being seriously fussy then I don't know what I would start to worry. Sorry if that isn't much help :rolleyes:

Had a nice day on Sunday, spent mostly with D as dp was sorting out fishing gear. He is going away on Thurs for about 14 days. Not sure if I should feel this happy that he is going away but anyway we will see what is like when he isn't here.

Enough from me, chat later, not feeling well.

Nxxxooo

you tricked me Nic ;)

Hi to all, hope you all enjoyed your day sunday. I had a good one and was spoilt :)

sorry I don't get in here much, trying to put my efforts into my REAL life, iykwim.

xxx

Congrats Andie on your pregnancy! You ladies are very brave. Hubby and I are toying with the idea of another at the moment but one is so much hard work.

Hope you all had a great Mother's Day. Despite repeated phone calls, I was very happy not to have to spend a long lunch with MIL! (We took her to lunch the Sunday before!)

Will is literally on the run. He is so steady on his feet and clambers up on things as well. But he is so much happier exploring the world.

He loves talking on the phone - well talking in general. He has so many words all of a sudden, does animal sounds when you ask about the animal and points to all the relevant parts of his body and names them - Where did our baby go? It has all happened so quickly.

Will is a pretty good eater - but I find I have to offer lots of small options of various things. Variety is the key to getting him eating and letting him do some spoon work himself (although messy but he now can scoop and get a mouthful in).

He has settled in to his new childcare (but they can only get him to sleep about 20mins a day!). Oh, and he is on one sleep a day now - Anyone else's bub doing this?? He usually sleeps for 1.5hrs late morning so is very tired by 7pm bedtime.

At Easter I had the big tug a war about BFing overnight! Just stopped as he was waking constantly for a feed. It was a few days of screaming but now he will usually sleep 8 hours straight and then we resettle and he sleeps generally 10-12 hours (but always wakes around 5am for that BF). Now I am feeding 2 or 3 times a day - much more enjoyable!

Hope everyone is well! Now I am working, I find it hard to pop in but read your posts!

Sorry for the lack of personals ladies..

DD is in hospital - has been since Tuesday. She has RSV (a respiratory virus common amongst those aged 2 and under, and apparently more so in prem babies) - but in saying that 1 in 16 kids will get it - and it's caused bronchiolitis in her case, unfortunately.

She'd been displaying signs of high fever (around 39 - 40 degrees), very uninterested in food/ bottle - but would have watered down juice in small doses, and had a horrible cough. (Hence the reason for my initial post)..
DF took her to the GP who said 'off to the hospital' to get her oxygen levels checked....etc etc and she ended up needing to be put on oxygen, and they are only just slowing weaning her off of it now..

I have since found out babies - not just prem - are more suspectible to this, and it won't cause an ongoing health issue...so I'm not so paranoid about it anymore...

I'm all for immunisations and wish the government would approve one for RSV to stop it from going to other kids and babies....

I hope everyone had a great mothers day!! DF traced DD's hand on her card - it was so cute...

Take care ladies!! x

Leesa - so sorry to hear about DD. My son was in hospital earlier this year and it is very scarey! Look after yourself and my thoughts are with your family.

Oooh yeah Leesa :( That's not good news! I'm a bit confused about the whole RSV leading to bronchiolitis (sp.) ?? I've never heard of RSV, and Jake's had bronchiolitis a couple of times, I know Melbel's James has had it quite a few times too? Hope Maddy picks up soon.

Jake is driving me NUTS lately. He's cutting two molars atm which look nasty. He's getting really jealous too of even the other kids, I can't cuddle them in front of him without him throwing a tantrum and getting hysterical. He tries to push them out of the way and hit them!! I don't know what's going on, even Ben and Chloe being so close in age weren't like this at all!! his climbing is just getting ridiculous, I've had to take the legs off the kids small plastic table as he constantly climbs on it and falls off. He's really undergoing a personality change and it's not good. He's getting quite agressive, hitting, pushing etc. I find it hard to know what to do as I know he sees they kids do it all to each other so I know where it's coming from but I don't know how to stop it. Of course I don't LET the kids treat each other this way but kids are kids iykwim?? I'm not there 100% of the time so they do do it, lol. I'm just finding he's reaching that age where "no!" really comes into play, and he's not listening a lot of the time. *sigh* Right now 3 kids is all i can handle!! :rofl:

Ok gotta run, hope you all are well, and I can't wait for these new bubbas to pop out! Catherine I think you must be up first??

Hi all,

Cam is running around like a little tornado, so not sure how much I'll get to type. I've just been off work for the second week - my cold/cough turned into a nasty chest infection. I'm getting better each day, but wish I could stop coughing up crud! Cam was back at daycare this week. But, of course, ALL the kids in the nursery still have mega-snotty noses and coughs, so time will tell if Cam gets a second dose of it. On one level, I understand why some parents can't afford to take time off work to keep their kids at home when they're not well, but on the other hand ... why send them to daycare if they're not well so they infect all the other kids (who then take it home to their parents!!!).

Leesa - Hope your DD is recovering well. Imagine it's a scary time for parents when their children are that sick they require hospitalisation. Thinking of you.

Nic - hope you're feeling better. Your name change threw me initially, but a change is as good as a holiday (so 'they' say!).

M2W - Glad to hear things are going well with Will - it's great you are still BFing. We stopped about 5 weeks ago. Cam just stopped being interested, and then a week later I found out I was pg, so I wonder if hormones affected my supply, and that's why he stopped. I'm pleased we BF'd for 13 months, it was a month longer than my grand plan.

Bec - our toddlers are certainly starting to assert their independence, aren't they. Maybe Jake is just trying to match it with Ben and Chloe? Not much fun for you though, with a little guy who is throwing his weight around.

Hi to Melinda, CM, Jo, Hayley, Laura, Macca and everyone else!

As for bubbas popping out ... I'm last on the list (at this stage :lol:) I think. I'll just be happy to keep plodding along week by week. I'm still feeling blah, and I've been having mild spotting on and off. It's not concerning me, but by the same token, it'd be preferable not to happen. First appt with Ob on June 1, so I'll get everything checked out then. Scan last week showed everything going swimingly.

Have a great weekend all,
Andie xx

oh yeah, Cam's latest trick is to throw EVERYTHING over the gate at the top of our (internal) stairs. By everything, I mean balls, toys, placemats ... he even managed to get the vaccuum cleaner head over one day when I wasn't looking. It's maddening, but I can't think of a way to stop him. He listens to 'no', but it generally doesn't stop him ... and I don't think it's a smackable (:redface: I don't smack hard on the odd occasion it's deserved) offence - knowing Cam he'll stop it in a couple of weeks once the novelty wears off! Sigh, toddlers!

(He he - quiet bunch aren't we?? Thought I'd bump us to the top of the list ;))..

I don't know all about RSV either becstar - I'm just glad Maddy is home with us again! She came home on the Saturday late morning - had a 4 hr sleep then was as right as rain. She even started taking more confident steps all by herself. My premmie girl is growing up :D
(In fact she has taken to 'vacumn surfing'...she lays on the barrell of the vacunm and holds on for dear life when i move it around the house - bizarre - but she loves it!)...

I guess the order is catherine (I think she's about 4 - 5 wks ahead of me), me (I'm 30 wks tomorrow) and andiE in December...

Not sure if its the PG hormones, but I posed a scenario to DF last night / this morning about getting hitched on the beach - like ASAP! Then we could plan our proper 'QLD Pt Douglas (renewal) wedding in 2 - 3 yrs time (as we were going to anyway). He agreed - but he's afraid if this bubba comes early we'd have to cancel it (pffft, I think - it'd only be cancelling the celebrant and two witnesses!!)...but then again there is Murphy's Law eh?? Am I nuts???

Hi girls!

I've got about 7 weeks to go I think! :o So close. It has gone really quickly!

Flynn is doing well. He seems to be cutting more molars on the top gum. Poor little bubba. He is running around everywhere. He is really smart too. He brings me my shoes when I'm putting on socks and tries to put them on my feet! He knows that more drink comes out of the tap. And that chang a nappy time means run away from mummy until she comes to get me!!! He is a real rascal! His favourite toys are the ones which are not toys at all. The other day it was the broom and the cobweb broom. They were banished to the laundry in a fit of tears (his AND mine!!!) cos the was waving them around most dangerously! He has gotten tall enough to reach things off the bench which used to be out of reach and he can reach things out of the bottom of the bath now too. I am amazed at some of the things which he brings to me! He is pretty rough, I think it is DH's fault. DH let's him smack his face and pull his hair and stuff like that. It drives me nuts. I hope he grows out of it before bub arrives...I do not need that!

We have some exciting news on the house front. We were given a 2 bedroom relocatable home for FREE!!!! Well for whatever it costs us to move it. It's a bit exciting. So we are currently looking for land. Which is turning out to be quite frustrating. Hopefully the perfect spot for us comes up soon.

Anyway hope you are all going well :)

Take care.

Hi all,

CM - gee, just seven weeks to go. That's exciting!! I'm 12 weeks tomorrow, and to be honest Dec 12 seems an eternity away at the moment. Am sure I'll find time flies by all too quickly though. Flynn certainly sounds like a little character - I'm very envious that your little man brings you shoes and understands the concept of taps. Think we're quite some way off "logic" in this house yet! Cam's still only at "mumum" and "dadad" with his words. He babbles away constantly, and often things he says have certain sounds ... like he IS saying something, if that makes sense. But damned if I know what he's on about. Yeah, Flynn's daddy might find it funny for him to be smacked in the face, but I don't imagine he'll be laughing if darling Flynn gives his new brother or sister a welcoming whack. Not saying that he will ... but maybe the thought of it will change your DH's opinion ;) Dad's love playing rough n tumble with their boys though, don't they! Great news on your home offer - good for you. Hope you find your perfect block soon.

Leesa - So glad that Maddie is fighting fit again. They do seem to bounce back well, don't they. And the thought of her vacuum surfing made me grin - these kids do like the strangest things, don't they!! And hunny, if you want to get married on a beach ASAP, then go for it! Weddings are all about what the hubby-and-wife-to-be want, so your wedding plans sound lovely. Good luck with it all and keep us posted.

Cam's not well again - a middle ear infection in both ears, and a throat infection. And he's got a mega snotty nose. Poor little thing has been running high temps on and off since lunchtime yesterday, and we had a shocking night with him last night - usually a clear sign he's unwell, as he always sleeps through the night. Anyway, I took him to the doc and got the diagnosis. Upshot is, he was prescribed antibiotics ... and then about two hours after his first dose, he got a really bad case of the shakes and looked very off colour. Luckily it was before closing time at our medical centre (all of 200 metres up the road from us), so DH whipped him straight down and got him checked out. Looks like Cam could have an allergy to penicillan. He's had pen. before - about 5 months ago, but it was a milder dose. This time round it was stronger AND I'd bought a generic brand. Dr told DH that generic brands can use different sugars/flavourings than the "dinky di' brands. But he said it was only a slight possibility he reacted because it was generic. Anyway, guess we'll have to see what happens down the track - neither DH nor I have any sort of allergies, so it would seem strange for Cam to have one. But again, I guess we won't know for sure until he requires antibiotics again - in which case, I can only assume that they would have to be administered under medical supervision "just in case" ?? Dr gave Cam clarantyne (spell?) which controlled the allergic reaction and cleared up the shakes in under 15 minutes. And no more penicillan ... apparently we've now got a script for something different.

In other news, we've got our NT scan on Monday. I started worrying about it during the week, but checked on my odds with Cam and I was 1:4400. So, I shouldn't have any reason to worry. I guess it's at the back of my mind that I didn't take folate/vitamins in the lead up ... anyway, I'm determined not to "stress" until I need to :).

Hope everyone else is keeping well. Have a good weekend and please wish me Open Home vibes - after nearly two months on the market we're ready to sell, but the two offers we've had were well below what we were hoping to get. Luckily we haven't bought elsewhere, but at this rate we'll still be here on bub#2's EDD!! Arrgghh!

Andie xx

Hi all how is everybody? Bellies growing nicely? :D

We have had a month from hell really, my DHs dad passed away after fighting cancer for over a year so we had a rush trip home to NZ. He was in the hospice so we got there just in time (like by an hour and a half)to say goodbye which was good. It was a good trip despite the sad circumstances. Bloody freezing though. My poor boys have forgotten what it is like to be cold. Scout was actually shivering and his lips were blue it was that cold, two weeks was definately long enough.
He is a bit of a jetsetter now though. Two overseas trips and he is only 14mths!!! :dance:

Scout is still the he who shall be obeyed in our house which is I know is going to come back and hit me in the bum sooner rather than later. I find myself giving in to him just to keep him happy or quiet even though I know I really shouldnt be. He is just so determined and stubborn and I guess I am tired or just plain cant be bothered some days that it is easier. I really do have to knock it on the head though or I am going to be paying for it.
He has decided that some days he is a big boy and only needs one sleep. To be fair it is usually a 3 hour one in the middle but it sux as that means we have to go out sparrows fart to back by about lunch time,or leave it till after he has slept which then coincides with the school pick up. He is in bed by about 6.30pm on those days though which I like and he is sleeping till about 7.30am. So he really does love his bed. That trait he got from me but the stubborness is definately his dads side. :lol:
He is a loveable ratbag who is so busy and clever. He is "talking" a fair bit with words like Mum, dad, dog, cat, oos (juice) one two (when we put his shoes on) more? boys. He understands so much too he really isnt my baby anymore. :cry:
But we (Dh just goes along with what I have decided) have decided that we are going to do it again. Not till next year though as I want to try gender swaying and it is so confusing I think I am going to need a good few months to work it out.

Oh well I think thats about all in our camp hope all is happy and healthy in yours

xx

Its so lovely to read all about your lives and babys, though they are not so little any more.
Ollie thinks hes a big boy and runs around with his brother, screams if Lucius goes outside to play and trys to leave him behind. He can say about 8 words and understands alot more. Is stubborn and so cheeky. Hes still not into eating really and that is an ongoing sorce of stress for us but he is happy and is a little man on the go! He loves animals, we have a dog and recently discovered 4 semi-wild kittens at the family factory so everyday he wants to go there watch the dog and cats (both boys love them.)
2 months ago FIL said we could find our own apartment, but finding 1 in the area we want for an ok price is proving to be hard and then getting the time is another thing- there are no regular days off for my husband and he is also busy trying to set up our new company, I am finding this agonising as I am so over ready to have our own home again. I feel alittle sad for the boys though, I know they enjoy living with their gandparents- both boys just adore their grandpa, but we arent moving so far and they will still see them alot every week.
Its getting hot here, and Kindy will break on the 26th of June till 1st of September, so will have the 2 boys here alot, though Lucius will want to go to the factory often- hes so cute, he wants to work, put gloves on and pushes round a cart for his grandpa to put things on.
How big are your babys now? weights and heights I am due to get Ollie sized soon.

:bump:

Gosh, we're a quiet bunch, aren't we? Imagine it's our toddlers + other children keeping us so busy!

All-boys: Sorry to hear about your FIL, hope your DH and your family are doing ok. I grew up in Tassie and moved to Darwin in my late 20s. I've been "home" at least once or twice a year since, but usually avoid the colder months. However, my nan and pop passed away (separately) in June and July (4 yrs apart), so went back then. Oh. My. Goodness. Itwassoooobloodycold!!!!!! You tend to forget - quickly - what REAL cold is like, don't you! I complain about Brissie winters now, and it's still 20deg min during the day :redface:. What a wuss, huh? Scout sounds like a real little charmer - and hey, a happy toddler generally equals a happy mum!! Woo hoo to you and hubby going another "round". Good luck for a BFP when the time comes!

Doubletrouble - how is the apartment hunting going? Looking for a new home is so much "fun", isn't it? We're moving in less than a month - with bub#2 on the way, our current home isn't quite right for us - only two bedrooms upstairs (where all the main living is). We found (bought) a four-bedroom home, with three b'drooms upstairs. Can't say I'm looking forward to the actual packing up and unpacking, but the house we've bought is pretty fab, so I AM looking forward to living there. I'm sure your boys will still see plenty of their grandparents - wished Cam's lived closer to us, truth be known. Fortunately we get to see them a few times a year for a good stint each time, but it's not the same as growing up nearby (I had the luxury of growing up with a wonderful nan and pop - mum's parents - who lived half an hour away. I could only wish that for Cam!).

As for us - Cam isn't too bad, although today he started to develop a bit of a chesty cough. Not sure what to make of it as he's been perfectly well. I'll keep an eye on it and see what happens. Cam's still not talking "words" (except mum and dad), but he chatters away, pointing at things usually, constantly. He's still only got five teeth (three on top, and two middle bottom ones), so I wonder if he'll start forming words when another few teeth are through. He's still generally a happy little soul, although is starting to try be more autonomous ... which is now starting to end in a mild temper tanty. You know the kind: I want the knife. "No - you can't have the knife". Cam sits on the floor, face crumples, bends forward with a wail, looks at mum like she's caused his world to cave in "Waaaaaaah". Ten seconds later, gets distracted and goes off to do something else quite happily. For the record - he's never been close enough to a knife to want one ...just an abstract example!

Gotta go - dinner's just arrived (take away wood-fired pizza - a treat!). All's well with me. 15 weeks today and tummy is starting to pop. Been crook heaps lately - catching every virus and bug going around. Anyway, seem to (finally) be on the mend! Here's hoping.

CM - saw your ticker the other day, less than 3 weeks to go now, huh? Hope you're keeping really well. Can't wait to hear your announcement.

Bec, Mel, Jo, Nic, Hayley, Laura, Macca ... EVERYONE .... hope all's well with your tiny tots and you.

Take care,
Andie xx

Oh girls I've missed you!!!!!

Finally moved and after PC problems am back online. Will catch you all up later, I have the outlaws here ;)

xxxx

Hey everyone,

I just popped in - wondering what do you do for play time with your little ones?

DD likes to keep herself amused most of the time, but I also enjoy interacting / playing with her. We'll pass toys back and forth between each other (practising the word 'ta' lol), and she runs up to me and falls straight onto my 34 week bump lol! She chuckles and loves it! We play with plastic blocks and I am trying to teach her to put them in the correct holes so they fall into the bucket. She loves to empty her toy box and even the dog toy box and fill them back up again!

What does everyone do at playtime - do you let them do their own thing most of the time - is there a certain game / toy your little ones prefer? Or do older siblings play with your young ones more?

AndiE - I hope you get over all the bugs quickly - and then they stay away! DD bought stacks of illnesses home from child care and I kept on getting sick too.

Becstar - I'm glad you're back online hun! Give us the goss!!

DoubleTrouble - I'm slack in the weight / height dept! One mth ago DD was 10.5 kg (but she was premmie and weighed 1.18kg at birth - so she's probably a bad example ;)).

AFDD - she certainly is getting smart lol, she waves as DF leaves the house now, and she knows 'hands on heads' and 'hands on her nose' (but then she starts picking it lol, drives DF crazy ha ha), now we're working on 'hands on ears'....She babbles a lot and is good with 'bubba', 'mummum' and 'dadda' but seems to understand a lot more.
She has been chasing the dogs around, as she toddles about lol - and when she hears music she usually bobs up and down on the spot.
All in all, my premmie baby seems to have caught up (IMO). :D

Hi Everyone.

Well I'm totally ready for this baby to arrive. I'm so uncomfy and sleep is not so great. My ribs are sore (gosh get down already!!!), my back is sore I feel like a whale and I'm just over it. We are still struggling with a girls name. The name I'm completely in love with (which means I can't see any other names in a nice light!) DH just doesn't like. :doh: Maybe it will be a boy for that reason!

Flynn is just as cute as ever. He has started giving me dirty looks. If I tell him not to do something he throws me this kind of rolled eyes scowl. It was funny at the start but I'm not finding it as funny now. He's only 15 mths old not 15 years old, I wasn't expecting that kind of attitude so young!!! He is very smart IMO! This morning while I was having my shower he was filling the laundry hamper with all the dirty clothes he could find! I hope that continues! I don't know how tall he is but I know he has grown, cos my 'out of Flynn's reach zone' has shrunk. He grabbed the half full carton of eggs of the bench the other night while I was busy with dinner. Argh! I can lugh about it now but I wasn't laughing at the time!

Re: playtime. I'm pretty slack. I mostly let him entertain himself. He loves playing outside, so I try and get out there with him each day. I usually do the laundry and then read the paper while he plays :redface:. Inside he loves the shapo, he needs help with that tho or he gets frustrated. We have tried some playdough at the table while, I'm making dinner but that hasn't been that successful. He loves to play with the pots and pans and the plastics cupboard. We sing songs and he dances, very cute. He is just getting into watching the wiggles, I need a few more DVDs. He tries to dd the actions to rock a bye your bear, it's too cute!

We have put an offer on some land and are awaiting finance. Our house is getting moved this week. We have been very busy organising building permits and plans and a million other things which all take time. Hopefully it all works out.

Hope you are all well, Sorry for no personals.

hi girls,

i have been very slack in posting, we have had a lot going on including 2 deaths in our family in the past month. anyway i wanted to ask you all about when your toddler (i guess they aren't babies anymore !) wakes up, do they wake happily and chat or play quietly or do they wake crying or screaming ? James at best cries and at worst screams, its just awful and im wondering if there is anything i can do to stop it ?

sorry for no personals and belly rubs to all you pregnant girls

Melinda

Hi all,

Just a quick post from me to say hi. Can't believe how quiet this thread has been lately, although given I don't have a lot of time to post on BB these days I don't know why I'd expect anyone else to!!

Cam's pretty good at the moment. DH and I think he must be close to saying a word or several (other than mumum and dadad). He's certainly making noises that sound like our dogs names (he must hear us say/yell "Billy, Bella" a million times a day!). We've been wondering when he'd start forming words - we hear where some toddlers his age say quite a few words. So ... I guess we'll wait and see. He's chattering ten to the dozen at the moment and makes lots of different word sounds - not that we have any idea what those words are!

Cam seems to be snot free for a change - pity I can't say the same thing. I've got yet another head cold and chesty cough ... I can't seem to shake colds/virus/bugs this pregnancy, it's been one after another (literally) for more than 2 months. I'm going to start accupuncture again soon - hoping that will help boost my immune system, which has obviously crashed. Bub #2 wise, I'm 18 weeks and have just started to feel some movement. So far, so good. I'm convinced it's another boy - I keep dreaming about having a baby boy - the other night I dreamt my husband called the poor kid Ramsay ... don't ask me where I pulled that one from!

CM - can't wait to hear that bub2 has arrived - thinking of you and wishing you well.

Mel - Sorry to hear your news - hope you and your family are doing ok. Cam mostly wakes up ok, but it seems to depend on where he is and the time of day. He was really unsettled around 4am this morning, so DH and I bought him into bed with us (where he chatted and giggled at goodness knows what for an hour !!!). Anyway, he slept for another 60-90 mins and woke crying really hard. We have no idea why. He only stopped sobbing when - not knowing how else to stop the tears - we put on the floor to stand up. Straight away the tears stopped. This happens every now and again when he wakes - he's inconsolable for a minute or two, then is almost instantly ok. I just hold him tight, cuddle and talk to him till he's fully awake. But, as mentioned, that didn't work this morning!

Leesa - playtime in our house is usually Cam finding something that amuses him and/or grabbing one of his walkers and chasing after the dogs. He adores playing with our dogs - giggles like mad when he plays hide and seek with them (he hides behind my legs and then peeks around them). I tend to interact with him by rolling a ball backwards and forwards between us, stacking blocks, or playing silly buggers with his stuffed toys - that type of thing. At the moment Cam wants to be read to ALL the time - and it's always one of three books. Or we can say to him 'Go get "Kisses for Daddy" or "Where's my Mummy?" book' and he'll go find the right book, and bring it to us to read. I love reading to him, but it's not always convenient! I agree that our toddlers understand heaps more than they can communicate themselves - I guess that's why they sometimes get upset and frustrated ... they understand us, but we don't always understand them.

Bec - How's things with you and the kids? Have your outlaws left yet? Hope all's well.

Hi to everyone else and I ditto Mel in saying belly rubs to all who are expecting bubs.

We move house next Friday so I may pop back in to hear news of CM, but may not get a chance to post for a couple of weeks. I just adore packing boxes and unpacking :rolleyes:.

Andie xx

I am alive!! :P

How are you all doing??

I specially popped in here to give you all some good news!!!

I wanted to say:

:happyforyou: Catherine and Laura!! WHOOOOT!!

Now I'm slack on Catherine's announcement, Laura actually passed it on to me but I didn't think you'd mind Catherine??

A baby boy for Catherine,on 14th July (I think?!) Gabriel, weighing in at 4.46kg! Congratulations!! :)

And hot off the text from Laura, baby girl Amelie Claire was born two weeks early today at 5:41pm, 2.9kg (6lbs 5oz). All well!! Congratulations!! :)

Great news guys!! I'm very excited and clucky and I know we all can't wait to see piccies!! So please send some via email or add to FB when you get a spare minute (LOL).

Much love to you both, anything I can do to help, please let me know, and Laura....take care hun.
xxxx

As for us, we are alive ;)

All moved, settling in etc. I like being closer to stuff, I've joined a gym and am enjoying it heaps. I'm even dreaming of playing hockey again sometime :lol:

I can't believe my baby is to be 18 months next month :( He's finally beginning to talk more, his fave word at the moment is "help!" LOL. I'm wanting to put him and Chloe into family day care on the days ben is at school so I can get some relief work but it's proving to be hard. I'm very reluctant to put him in a centre, mostly because he has always been cuddled to sleep which works fine for us but I know in a centre it won't happen.

Anyway, congrats again my lovelies, and hi to you all!! I know I don't post at all but I'm always thinking of you all.

xxx

Hi everyone.

I don't mind Bec! :)

That's right we had a little boy on the evening of Monday the 13th. My little (well not that little at 4.46kg!!!) Gabriel was in a hurry and we were only at the hospital for about 2 hrs before he arrived. I'm most proud of myself having a drug free birth.

We spent 7 days in hossy. Gabriel was put into the SCN at about 5 hrs old cos he was having a hard time breathing. He had wet lung. He also had problems with his blood sugar levels so he was given a nasogastric tube and fed hourly and then 2 hourly untill it sorted itself out. Then, just as he was about to be sent back to the ward with me and then home they did a blood test and were worried about an infection and possible meningitis, so he was given a lumbar puncture and had an IV inserted for 3 different antibiotics and an anti viral medication. He needed to have the IV site redone after about 48 hrs cos the vein collapsed. And then the second IV site stopped working after about 24hrs as well. I coped remarkably well, only being overcome with tears once (I'm glad he was my second tho, cos I would not have coped at all if it had been Flynn!!!) I was able to stay in hospital the whole time thankfully. He is breastfeeding extremely well and is fairly settled (so far!).

I'm not sure what Flynn thinks yet. He seems very happy to see Gabriel when he is around and trys to grab him and cuddle him. He is slowly learning the meaning of the word gentle! Flynn seems to have really grown up in the last week. He looks taller and older, he is walking upstairs without putting his hands on he steps! Tonight at dinner he was using his spoon properly, usually the spoon is in one hand and the food is shovelled with the other!

Congrats to Laura! Enjoy your little girl!