Babies Born March 1st - 15th 2008 #4

Morning girls,

Just a short one from me, need to feed DJ the rest of his milk before I can't give it to him anymore.

SJ - yeah DJ now waking at 4am every morning instead of his usual 5-6am feeding time. He is starting to like farex now, we can do 1 teaspoon, as long as I mix a little pureed apple or pear in it he will eat it. Good luck at osteo, let us know how it goes.

Trina - hope you are feeling better from the horse kicking you..... they are a bit unpredictable. I remember falling off a horse and hitting a tree when I was younger, and you know what it didn't stop me from going horseriding.... I love horseriding, well when I could. Now with bub, can never do it.... I don't own a horse so need to go somewhere for horseriding.

I better go, chat soon

Shellx xxx

Jazz has started waking up lots during the night, but I think that's due to her cough. Last night I decided I'd be on baby duty even though I have work today. Figured it's better if I get up than Matt at the moment because he'll probably just make her even more sick at the moment. But she decided to get up at 12, then 1, then 4, then 6! I took a bottle of water in to her in the hopes that water would help stop the tickle in her throat. Tonight no matter what, I need Matt to deal with her. I'm totally wrecked this morning. Time for a coffee to charge me up so I can work.

We decided that I would teach her "mum mum" and Matt would teach her "dad dad" so she associates those words with the right person. I was doing lots of "mum mum mum" last night and she was trying to copy but it came out more of a "ummmmmm ummmmmmmm brrrrrr eeeeee" but then without making sounds she was trying to move her mouth the same way mine moves when I say mum. Last night when she was waking up she was calling "umm umm" almost as if she was trying to call "mum"

Dani they often learn to say dad first because mum's are usually at home saying dad will be home soon. Maybe when Matt has her more often during the week he'll be saying mum will be home soon so she'll learn to say mum first ;).

SJ I'm looking at baby led solids as well. With DS1 I did all the puree and stuff but he really didn't eat anything until he was 8 months so rather than I'll probably follow Paddy's lead.

Trina I hope you're feeling better. Paddy has just started waking at about midnight for the last couple of days.The other night he slept till 2 then up every hour after that :rolleyes:. It's exhausting when you're used to sleeping till 6. I tried shoving the dummy in but felt really guilty when I heard his tummy grumble so he must really be hungry. Hopefully it's a growth spurt.

Skye I hope Jesse is feeling better. Their first sore throat must be very confusing for them.

Hope everyone else is well.

I'm confused, when you are all talking about baby led solids, are you talking about actual food that needs to be chewed or pureed food? I thought pureed was "solids" I didn't think it was good to give proper food to babies this age (then again, I don't know when to give proper food).

Danni - if you read the link it explains how pureed foods were originally introduced at 3 months, then 4 months. By 6 months when they recommend introducing solids now, babies should be past the pureed food stage & onto more finger foods.
It's supposed to help them be less fussy as they suggest babies who are on purees from 6 months wait too long to start chewing foods & therefore when they are older prefer foods that don't require chewing.
Not sure about that part of it, but it is true that when I started the girls at 4 months they were on purees & eating toast & stuff at about 6 months. Even baby foods at 6 months used to be a bit lumpier than they are now.

Oh ok. Thanks. I thought it would hurt the gums if they had chewable food before they had teeth...certainly can tell I'm a first time mum!

trina - how are you today? hope you're not too sore. xoxoxo

i think i'll just let feeding run it's course. he seems happy enough eating pureed food, and we've had potatoes, carrots, pumpkin, tofu, tomato, and rice cereal so far. when i get back im going to try lumpier food.

yes, poopy's waking up 4,5am for the last couple of weeks, plus him rolling in his sleep is driving me crazy. i woke up at 1.45am and saw him sleeping on his tummy and was checking on his every so often. he's fine, cos he has his cheek against the mattress but im just paranoid. im going to put him in his sleeping bag when we get back so i wont worry about him getting tangled in his wrap.

im teaching Lakshman to say 'amma' which is tamil for mummy. and steve hasnt decided if he wants to be daddy or 'appa'(tamil for daddy) so i jokingly call him appa. the other day, steve was talking to lakshman on the phone, and as usual he has a big smile then proceeds to eat the phone. i hung up and picked lakshman up and he said 'Appa'!! i was really surprised, i repeated 'appa' and he giggled.
so there, he said daddy first. hehe. but when he's upset, he cries and goes 'ummmmaaaa' i hope he's calling for me!!

Ok, just read some stuff about introducing solids and if I'm understanding correctly, it should be ok for me to mash up some food to give Jazz. Perhaps we should buy more vegetables and I'll just get the barmix out and puree/moosh the same veggies we are having. One of the things I was reading is that a good indicator of when a baby is ready for solids is when they start to show an interest in what is on your dinner plate and start trying to reach for it. Jazz has been doing that for about a month. I'll tell Matt that we are going to make an effort to eat more veggies and to include Jazz in our meal time...which means we'll have to clear off the dinner table so we can eat at the table again. He's been pulling computers and things apart and they're all over the table.

With mashed up food, one thing I wanted to ask: I add milk and butter to mashed potato - is that ok for our aged babies or should I mash a little with nothing added and put that aside for Jazz before adding the milk and butter? Maybe add a bit of water to make it easier to mash?

danni - i add a spoon of formula and water to the pureed food. sometimes just a dot of butter. i read in Baby Love that a dot of butter is ok, just make sure it's unsalted.

How many times a day are you giving your babies food? I'm currently only doing it at tea time when we get home from day care. My sister told me once a day is fine until she is looking for more. Considering she's at day care 5 days a week, I think I might have to ask them to let me know if she's satisfied after a bottle or drinking it all and looking for more food/drink. I might use that as an indicator of whether or not to tell daycare they can offer her pureed vegetables or fruit if she wants it during the day.

Danni - I just use full cream cows milk. Unless you think she'll be intolerant to it it should be OK.
When I mash our potato, I put in milk, then get his out before I put butter in it. I'll usually put a bit more milk in his too. We have heaps of butter & just a drop of milk - how Anthony likes it.
I broke a bit off my banaba this morning & let him get a bit off with his gums. He really enjoyed it, but it was too slippery for him to hold, so I had to hold it for him.
I used to buy a whole seperate lot of veggies for Bri. Most of them I wouldn't even eat!
Potatoe, pumpkin, squash, broccoli, cauliflour. Sometimes peas & corn & sometimes carrot.
Avocado is a good first food too. I was going to buy some yesterday, but I forgot.

Danni - I think once is enough for now. Jesse is still only having bits here & there. Not every day yet.

Thanks. Skye.

I think I'll visit the fruit & vege shop and make some mooshed up food and freeze it over the weekend. It'll probably work out much cheaper than buying jars and tins of food.

Sorry, so many questions: at this age it's best not to mix foods isn't it? So I shouldn't really combine say cauliflower and carrot together should I? I should just offer either one or the other is that right? I'm so clueless about all this!

danni - you can combine different vegies. they say(from books and MCN) carrots, potatoes and pumpkin are good first foods and you can combine them. you can go with any vegies, broccoli, cauliflower, even green leafs. fruits - avoid once that are acidic like oranges etc. pears, apples are ok.
ive been combining foods for lakshman for the last week. gave him pumpkin and tofu yesterday. gave him pumpkin and carrots this morning, and am giong to give him a little rice cereal this evening.
he has a breastfeed now at 5am when he first wakes up, then another at 7ish/8. then his meal at 10ish. if he has a lot then i skip his bottle till about 12ish, 1.
i dont think there;s a fixed rule when they can have 2 meals. from what ive read, after the first week you can give them 2 meals. at the end of the month, when he's been on solids for about 4 weeks im going to try lumpier food.
so far this is my plan, vegies in the morning and rice cereal in the evening. i might alternate vegies and fruits in the morning, or add vegies in the rice cereal in teh evening.
yoghurt - full fat w/o sugar, just plain is good for them too instead of custard.
i might give a teaspoon later today to see how he goes.
by the end of august, i think i will start him on 3 meals a day.
im also thinking of introducing fish in a couple of weeks, and then chicken. red meat will be harder to digest.

my friend recommended baby and toddler meals by robin barker to give you ideas of meals to make. but in a few mths they will ahve similar food to us.

danni - you can combine different vegies. they say(from books and MCN) carrots, potatoes and pumpkin are good first foods and you can combine them. you can go with any vegies, broccoli, cauliflower, even green leafs. fruits - avoid ones that are acidic like oranges etc. pears, apples are ok.
ive been combining foods for lakshman for the last week. gave him pumpkin and tofu yesterday. gave him pumpkin and carrots this morning, and am giong to give him a little rice cereal this evening.
he has a breastfeed now at 5am when he first wakes up, then another at 7ish/8. then his meal at 10ish. if he has a lot then i skip his bottle till about 12ish, 1.
i dont think there;s a fixed rule when they can have 2 meals. from what ive read, after the first week you can give them 2 meals. at the end of the month, when he's been on solids for about 4 weeks im going to try lumpier food.
so far this is my plan, vegies in the morning and rice cereal in the evening. i might alternate vegies and fruits in the morning, or add vegies in the rice cereal in teh evening.
yoghurt - full fat w/o sugar, just plain is good for them too instead of custard.
i might give a teaspoon later today to see how he goes.
by the end of august, i think i will start him on 3 meals a day.
im also thinking of introducing fish in a couple of weeks, and then chicken. red meat will be harder to digest.

my friend recommended baby and toddler meals by robin barker to give you ideas of meals to make. but in a few mths they will ahve similar food to us.

Hiya

The baby led solids is a whole different way of thinking... no mashed up foods at all as the theory is that they should not be eating anything until they can tolerate it themselves...
WHO (world health organisation) recommends that food is not started until babies reach 6 months as their digestive system is not yet ready.

If you are going down the BLS track, you would prepare several different veggies and give them all to bubba - say a broccoli, caulifower stalk - you know what i mean, a finger of carrot and patoato... that way they can choose what they want to eat and apparently they will select the food that they need at that time, as in they may need the minerals and vitamins from the carrot on night so will chow down on a finger or tw, but the next night prefer the potato.
The idea is that you par boil or steam the veggies so that they are still slighty firm.

I think that i will start a thread on it, i will post a link once im done.

Saw the Osteo today, going back Friday to, MJ has a rotated spine and needs a little work, hopefully 2 session will do her and then she will give us some exercises to do at home.

Chat later :)

Well I've got broccoli, cauliflour, potatoe & carrot all cooking.
I know he's a month too young yet, but I might just see how he goes.
He'll probably just turf the lot on the floor.

Good evening girls,

Hope you are all well :) DJ is in bed and I am off to bed shortly myself. Doni is in Griffith/Wagga for work so a few nights alone for me and DJ :)

SJ - that is good to hear that only two sessions and MJ will be right again. I bet you were relieved.

Prama - sounds like poopy is eating really well for his first solid foods. I have just started DJ on some rice cereal and pureed fruit - he loves the fruit though. I want to try vegetables next. So far no allergic reactions so all good. Just taking it one step at a time. This weekend I am going to cook up a heap of veges for DJ.

Danni - making your own baby food will work out so much cheaper, I have a few jars in the cupboard only for when we are travelling or something when I can't take the fresh stuff.

Skye - good to know avocado is a good first food too, I have some in the fridge, waiting for it to ripen though, still very hard.

Teach - I know what you mean about being woken up earlier than the normal scheduled time... DJ normally wakes at 5-6am and now is waking anytime between 3-4am arghhh those extra few hours make a difference too.

Well girls I better head to bed, have a great night.

Cheers
Shell xx