Babies Born March 1st - 15th 2008

Morning girls,

We had our night away on Saturday and I had the best time :) DJ was fine with my mum in fact she loved looking after him for a full night. By the time I got to bed I had a full 5 hours of non-interrupted sleep - it was wonderful!!! Waking up with no baby crying, ahhhh so nice and we went out for breakfast in the morning and it was soooo nice but then I started to rush things coz we had to pick-up DJ and have his next feed ready to go. I had expressed 2 feeds before I started to drink any alcohol so that way I didn't have to worry the following day :) so all good. It was sooooo nice to get away for the night, and be a couple for once and not a mummy and catch-up with our friends. They all commented on how good I was looking so that was great to hear, I had worn my shapewear slip thing so it obviously did what I wanted it to do - hold the flabby belly in kehehee

We have our paed apt finally on Wednesday so plan to ask him about DJ's wind, he really suffers badly from it. I have tried cutting out things from my diet, but the list of vegetables they say to cut out have so many good nutrients for me so why should I cut them out especially when I love them.

Prama - What kind of tips did Tresilian give you on settling techniques at their expo stall? Anything wortwhile?? I won't be at class this morning, DJ has a blocked nose and a bit of a cough so want to keep him indoors today and plus I have too much to do, desperately need groceries and have to clean the house. We have friends coming over for dinner tonight so need to make sure the house looks respectable.

Trina - I know your pain, DJ gets really bad wind and has done so since he was 2 weeks old and that is what makes him so unsettled. Infants Friends works well and makes him fart heaps. I am going to talk to paed on Wednesday about it.

SJ - just can't handle full cream milk so I just drink lactose free milk at home and skim milk when out and about. Yeah I wonder about the breast milk - will ask paed on Wednesday and see what he thinks. Still has bad wind so who knows might not be from full cream milk. Who knows hey?


Well I better get cracking and get to supermarket.

Speak soon
Shell xxxx

Hi Grls - sorry ive gone AWOL - just been busy with little bub and hubby -since the weekend is really the only time i see him..... wow alot to catch up on....

Prama - i went to the expo as well onSAT with my sisterinlaw and motherinlaw - it was great although i heard that last year there were more freebies.... i think i got a bit excited as i bought a slink (which i ended up BF joshi whilst walking or else the roof would of come down), a wedge (good for colic, cold and flus etc) and a BF shirt....apat from that i thought it was OK..... i went in the arvo so it wasnt too busy and missed the morning rush.

Tina - re: awards my hubby played soccer adn did little athletic and there too was only a few awards - but you know what his mum did cause similarly to ur felings (its not really fair as they are just kids) she made little awards herself which she printed off and past them around when the mothers got together...its funny cause one of allen's friends still has one of those awards and he is in his 30s... might give it a go

Shell - u dont want to know how long i BF for - sometimes no word of a lie - 2hrs...for the 1st time today he didnt want the nipple shield and fed with them - it wasnt too bad for me either.... i just hope that he will put on the weight its really concerning me but the community nurse and ped. said its OK but im seeing other bubs his age weighing 2kg more :( :( all i can justify is he is very long.... it still gets to me.

sorry grls will finish comments to everyone else later - bub back frmo a walk with mum and need to feed.... take cares.

Aniaxxxxx

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Shell - u dont want to know how long i BF for - sometimes no word of a lie - 2hrs...for the 1st time today he didnt want the nipple shield and fed with them - it wasnt too bad for me either.... i just hope that he will put on the weight its really concerning me but the community nurse and ped. said its OK but im seeing other bubs his age weighing 2kg more :( :( all i can justify is he is very long.... it still gets to me.

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Wow 2 hours!!!! Does he actually stay latched on for that long? Did you tell the community nurse that he stays on that long? That is amazing..... DJ breastfeeds for about 20 mins, all depending and sometimes I can get a 5 min feed done which is nice but then he is hungry earlier though.

quick one, so buggered today.

shell - so happy you had a wonderful wonderful time! you must feel really refreshed! sorry DJ isnt well, hope he gets better.
i got some brochures, i'll bring it to show you next week. we did hills today, it was hard work

ania - i might have seen you there but dont know what you look like. haha
re feeding: initially i was feeding 1.5hrs all together and my GP and the LCs said bub takes must milk in the first 10-15 mins only, after that it's just very very little. So not to feed so long. it wont increase my milk. the LCs said it's better to feed for a shorter period cos they get what they want and will get hungry quicker and you will feed more often and increase your supply.
i still have problems telling if he's finished cos often he doesnt pull back. he just continues to nibble.
so i watch the clock sometimes. 20mins each side. i still top up w formula cos he's always hungry.

ok. going to bed. will write more tomorrow.

I was going to write a long post about how I have to look for a job right now because our rent is increasing by $30 a fortnight in July (got a letter today). I'll write the rest of that post in the section about rental properties.

But I'm really upset that I have to go back to work already. I'm not ready but I don't have a choice in the matter any more coz of the stupid landlords!

Prama - yeah it was good to get out and I was bummed i missed the class yesterday but just wanted to keep DJ indoors, no longer has a blocked nose, seems to have cleared up which is good but still has a small cough. I will probably go to class today instead and just make sure DJ is all rugged up and doesn't get a chill.

Would be great to see the brochures but we have Tresillian coming to present at our mothers group meeting tomorrow so they may have the same brochures there.

Doni is off to Adelaide tonight for an overnighter and back tomorrow, so not too bad. A big trip next week though, leaves Sunday for New Zealand and back the following Saturday. That will be a hard week, going to get mum to come over and give me a break a few nights next week.

Ok girls, better go, chat soon, hope you are all well.

Shell xxxx

HI girls
We have the first of our snotty noses and its makign sleeping so hard for poor WIll. He gets that post nasal drip and you can hear him cough and snort tyring to get it up. Have had to prop him up in bed and put on of the sleep support things in so he doesnt roll over it realy helps being propped up though We are also having to suck out his nose every feed poor little buggar its upsetting but he is almost used to it now. How can such a little boy produce so much snot. He is stilreally happy and feeding ok( suprisingly enough) I just hate to see him struggle breathing and snuffling.
We to stayed indoors yesterday sometimes its nice to just potter sleep lay on the floor with him and play andno thave to rush off anywhere sorry no personals have to getwashing done before he wakes.
Hope u r are all well
Bron xx

Bron - that is what I had to deal with yesterday with DJ, we got rid of so much snot from his nose with the Little Fess and I was wondering the same thing, how can a little baby boy produce so much snot haha DJ's nose is clearer today thankfully but after my mums and bubs class I am going to stop off and see the doctor just in case. He has no temperature or anything so nothing to worry about but my mum said to take him to the doctor just in case. He seems happy enough :) Hope Will feels better soon.

hi abt to run out to mums group.
lakshman has had snot since day 1. it's become a ritual now, cleaning his nose. lol!

morning girls,
Bron and Shell, sorry to hear that your ittle ones are suffering with colds and blocked noses :(
Molly has the snuffles too... probaly cos this weekend was so awful, also over the last 2 weeks i have taken her for a walk each day, maybe being couped up didnt help, going to walk today.
Was saying to DH that we are going to have to watch her carefully, she is one of those babies that doesnt cry or complain much at all, i am sure that she has reflux, but doesnt cry with it, she coughs and gags a lot, it will be harder to know if she is not feeling well as she just puts up with it.

Shell, sorry that Doni is off on business again, it must be hard... nice when he gets back thou, maybe he can bring you something to make up for Mothers day ;)

Trina - are you excited yet???? holidays tomoroow!!!! WOOO HOOO I hope Chris has helped you a little in getting ready, having 4 kiddies to pack for would be so full on.
IKWYM about the comments, i get them all the time :hug: sometimes i reckon it would be better if we went out to work for a cople of days and they had a role reversal, i bet there would be no dinner, the dishes would be in the sink and MJ would still be in her wondersuit!!!

Great news, when we were filling out the paperwork for MJ for tax benefit we discovered that we should have been getting some $ for DSS (the shared care part) anyway we could put in for back pay (would have been nice to have the whole 9 years but only allowed to claim for 2 years) anyway, we got $750 yesterday! its always nice to get money that you are not expecting :) Anyway, i am gong to out it to good use, i am going to get curtains for the house (we just have venitians) which will help wth keeping the cold out. I am wraped - DH wants to buy a wii with the money so have to go shopping soon ;) - he means well, and was going to get it with the fit as wel for me, but i would rather wait for that and get the curtains...

Oh ania - 2 hours, you must feel like you are continually milking!!!! :lol:
anyway thats it form me... just baked banana bread for Mothers group - our last one :(
speak later

ONE MORE SLEEP!!!!!! YAY!!!!!!

Well madly getting washing done and have half packed mine and the girls bags, we have had to hire a car to drive up in so i have put the capsule in and the pram. We got a tarago so hope there is enough room i feel like i am almost moving house with all the stuff you need. We are leaving at 4am tomorrow morning, DH has to work/schmooze at the sanctuary cove boat show for a few days so we are staying at the gold coast for 3 or 4 days then going to currumbin.

Sorry some of the bubs aren't well, I think summer has been having a growth spurt cos she has been feeding alot being very grumpy and hasn't slept very well for the last week but today has been asleep all day poor bubba must be tired.

My friend that does the pilates told me i have lost weight :dance: i feel i have lost a little around my tum so pretty happy about that here's hoping i don't put it back on when away hehe oh well easy come hard to go pffft.

I'll check in later if i have time bbfn

Hey girls,

Went to doctor and she said DJ is fine, not in the chest, just probably a slight cold he has picked up, only blocked nose and a small cough. She recommended using Vicks on his singlet so did that and he is sleeping now. I will do it again after his night time feeds so he can breathe well and sleep well.

SJ - great news about the extra cash, and using it to get the curtains that you want. That is fantastic!! I sometimes think I need curtains for DJ's room because during the day it gets quite bright in his room.

Trina - I bet you can't wait to go away, it will be so nice. Make sure you take some pics, would love to see a photo of you and Summer :) I bet she has grown so much.

Prama - how was Mothers Group? I have mine tomorrow - can't wait. I did Ness' class this morning and OMG did she work us harder.... I think each week gets harder, which is good in a way, makes me push myself. I just really have to incorporate the ab work at home. Next week we will have to do coffee ;)

Those breastfeeding - do you find you crave lots of chocolate?? I know I do, very frustrating considering I want to lose weight. haha

Well girls, take care.

Shell xxx

sj - woo hoo for the extra money. thats fantastic! well done baking. i'd like to make more stuff during the day but poopy doesnt sleep long enough.

trina - fantastic on losing weight! im so happy for you!
yaay, 1 sleep to go, hehe i like your mood. where are you off to?

shell - her classes are getting harder, arent they? i dunno if i can do it 2 days in a row.
definitely coffee next week! i went rouse hill to return the shorts, they were small for steve. i had to feed poopy on the way there. he was fine after class but started to cry while i was driving. so i pulled up at newbury and feed him in the car.
glad dj is ok :D he's such a good boy.
mothers group was nice, we talked about solids today. it will be so exciting when they start solids, so grown up! hehe. but more stinky poo!
they told us no honey, cow's milk till 12 months. oh and of course, trying get convince them to eat different foods and us being disciplined ourselves.
we have our last one next week, we are all bringing something for lunch. it will be sad.. but i think a few of us will continue to meet. one of the girls was saying that she just moved to our suburb and her son is 5, in a new school and doesnt have any friends. he tries to get attention by getting a bit naughty. she said she went to his school at lunch one day and he was sitting by himself while the other kids were playing. it's so heartbreaking. doenst looking like the teacher was making effort to get the kids to play with him.

ania have you gone to ur mothers group yet?

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Those breastfeeding - do you find you crave lots of chocolate?? I know I do, very frustrating considering I want to lose weight. haha

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OMG YESSSS! I have a chocolate craving like no one would believe. DH doesn't believe me and I never thought that it could be related to BF.

I accidentally ate all of DH's mini easter eggs (not in one sitting though but I could have). I wanted to get chocolate last night while we were shopping but DH didn't allow it so today while he's at work I'm going to buy a stash and hide it!

I've found that drinking chocolate drinks does not cure the craving. I need chocolate that I can chew on!

Jazz is getting babysat today and I'm cleaning the house!
On Sunday we are getting her dedicated at church (being penticostal we don't christen, we dedicate with a dedication prayer). So I have my family and Matt's family coming over. I'm looking forward to it.

shell - im still craving choc milkshakes since being pg. maybe i need to up my dairy intake.

danni - hope you get the promotion when you go back to work, and that matt is doing better.

Afternoon girls,

Was having such a great night with DJ especially since Doni was away. He slept from 7:30-10:00pm, then 11:00pm-3:30am and was cheering and hoping for another 4 hour sleep but no, after putting him down at 4am, he then woke up again at 5:30am haha he has been pretty good today though, some mini sleeps (thankfully). Had mothers group this morning which was great, and heard from Tresilian and got some great handouts on settling and baby routines etc :) I have to leave here at 2pm to head to paed apt and hoping to get some answers about DJ's wind. At 10 weeks old, he still gets bad wind, farting like crazy and always unsettled from it as well as a tensed up tummy.... anyway shall see what paed says.

I have started putting one of his blankie toys down my top during the day so that when I put him down to sleep he can still smell me and he manages a good sleep from it, so keeping it up :) Found another good position that puts him to sleep as well, so finally working him out more and what he likes etc. Only took 10 weeks haha

Prama - yeah the class yesterday was a killer but I still managed a walk to and from mothers group today and felt great for it, mind you my legs will be killing me tomorrow haha but yeah coffee next week for sure!!!! Sounds like your mothers group is going really well, and will be good to continue meeting up with them. I have started to form a bond with some of the mums as well, which is great. How horrible for that mums little 5 year old..... We used to move around alot when I was younger and it was hard moving to different schools all of the time. I want to try and stay in this location for a while so DJ doesnt' have to move much.

Danni - yeah chocolate - just saying the word makes me hungry haha have fun on Sunday, sounds fabbo!!!! I would prefer to have a naming ceremony for DJ but because of Doni's family we need to get him christened doh!!! anyway something for us to think about but told Doni will wait until I am back at work.


Ok girls, going to get myself organised to head to paed apt.

Hope you are all having a super day!!!

Shellxxxx

Last week I weighed DJ with clothes on and he was 5.5kg and today he weighed 5.1kg (no clothes) at the paed apt. arghhhh he said to minus 200g approx for clothes, so really he has lost 200g, which isn't too bad. He has grown another 2cm in length in just one week so he is growing alot more in lengthways instead of weight..... anyway I told him about my breastfeeding and how he goes on and off several times etc and he said I should start giving him top up in formula after every feed, not just in the mornings and to make sure I get him to drink as much as possible from the top up. he said that will make him more settled. The wind isn't making him unsettled apparently, he thinks it is because he is getting enough food, which i agree since he is always unsettled after a breastfeed. I have another apt with community nurse next week so will do another weight check and hopefully the introduction of top-up feeds will increase his weight back up again.

I was a little unhappy after the apt because I thought for sure he would be weighing more since last week, not a weight drop. He is definitely more settled after a top-up feed of formula, and I haven't had to use the dummy as much since I have done it. So that is a plus in itself.

Prama - how much ml do you give poopy as a top-up? I have been giving DJ as much boob as he needs which is roughly 15-20 mins then 90ml top-up in formula which he sometimes guzzles the whole lot or half of it.


Well girls, better get dinner started.

Chat soon
Shell xxxx

Hi,

Shell sorry to hear that you are still having sleep troubles, maybe the top ups will help DJ sleep longer...

Went to CMHN appoint yesterday, Molly Jane now weighs 5540g and is 59cm long, i thought for sure she would have been 60cm this time, she has dipped a little on the growth curve, but no concerns as she is between 50th and 75th %ile... also was told she is due a growth spurth at 12-13 weeks, so next appoint (3rd july) she may be bigger...

I am posting this at the risk of sounding like one of those mothers that always think that their babies are 'advanced' :redface: .... anyway, CMHN held molly while i got stuff out of my bag and she said, how long has she been standing like this for (she will take her weight for minutes at a time) i replied ohhh about a month maybe - anyway, she said, well that is a 4 month milestine and loads of babies dont do it until 5 months... Anyway i thought that this was pretty cool :)

i have a question.... when your baby closes its fist, are the thumbs on the inside or the outside? Molly are always inside, i have noticed that most babies are out, asked CMHN about this and she said it usualy resolves by 2 months, but can still be there at 7 month in a few cases.

Anyway thats all from me, i hate wednesdays, its my day at the factory - have been playing with Molly loads since getting home though, she doesnt seem to mind being there thou

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shell - i give him about 60ml top up thats what he seems to take. ive tried topping up to 90 but he doesnt finish it. and he doesnt always finish the 60. it was trial and error. mind you for his weight he should be taking about 120-150ml. im going to weigh him tomorrow.
i think dont worry too much about the paed's scales cos all scales are different. you'll know better at the ECC.
yeah i hope he sleeps longer with the top up.
is he still doing all the right things with wet nappies and poo?
also the fact that he has grown 2cm might say something too, he might have used his energy to grow and not put on as much weight. but that wouldnt explain the weight loss. all the best checking tomorrow.
im getting poopy weighed too tom. im so worried.. the last time he only gained 150gm, i hope he's gained 250.

sj - poopy still has his thumb inside. i havent heard of thumb inside outside before.
poopy stands too, you mean when you put molly on your lap dont you? and he's been doing that for a while. sometimes he does it, sometimes he doesnt. but if he stands only for a few seconds, sometimes a bit longer.
no worries about sounding like an 'advanced' mum.. i think we all are a little. hehe
molly probably has a lot of things to see and hear at the factory!

poopy is a grizzle bum again
bbl

oh, trina hope you're having a fantastic time!

DJ falling asleep on my lap so a little hard to type kehehee soooo cute though, over the last few days he really has become a bit of a mummy's boy kehehee

Prama - thanks for the tip and yeah that is what I was thinking, using all of his energy to grow lengthways instead of in weight. But I think the top ups will help him. He only drinks no more than 60ml out of a 90ml bottle, sometimes he only takes 40ml. But he is much more settled YAY Good luck for weigh-in tomorrow I am sure Poopy will make his mummy proud ;) oh and DJ has a wet nappy on every change as well as at least 1 poo nappy every 1-2 days.

SJ - thumbs are always on the outside, and what a bonus on a milestone for Molly Jane, I can just imagine you would have had the biggest smile on your face :) Great weight gain as well, it seems DJ is just growing in length I think he might be a tall stringbean like my brother.

Doni will be home shortly which will be nice, get him to give DJ a bath and massage. Hopefully he will get a good night sleep tonight kehehee

Shell xxx

do you give him a bath everyday? i do it alternate days.
those still bf-ing, do you still express in between feeds. im not expressing anymore. im bf-ing all feeds and top up and then im tired and spend the rest of time with play and all the normal stuff.

How funny that your talking about them taking their own weight when standing because I was going to post that Maddie is doing that too! :D

She holds her head so strong, its amazing that shes moved onto that next step. She's also filled out a bit more and no longer has that newborn look about her :(

She also sits better when we prop her up against some cushions, she doesn't flop around.

Still bf exclusively so pretty happy about that. I got mad at my Aunt on Mothers Day. We had a family get together and my cousin had just had a little boy about two weeks before. She had twins 17 years ago so it was a big break and she never bf them cos they were premmie, yada yada, anyway she was trying with little Tyson and my Aunt had pushed her into giving formula because she said he was unsettled because "she had plenty of milk but the quality wasn't very good" What the!!!???

I didn't say anything because they think I'm stuck up anyway and didn't want to come across as the bf expert or smug or anything. My Mum told me that was exactly what she and my Grandma used to tell her when she was bf me and so only did for 3 months because she was starving me! My Mum was only 17 at the time but its funny how nothing has changed. I'm glad my Mum has encouraged me and reading forums like belly belly is a great support too. :D

Grrr, we've all had colds this week again! I've never had soooo many as since I've had kids lol

Anyway talk soon :D

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shell - im still craving choc milkshakes since being pg. maybe i need to up my dairy intake.

danni - hope you get the promotion when you go back to work, and that matt is doing better.

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I quit my job a couple of weeks after Jazz was born so no promotion. (Besides it was only a couple of dollars more and a beep load more work!
I'm going to start Avon at the end of this week and when Matt is more confident to take care of Jazz for more than half an hour on his own then I will look at doing some kind of party plan thing. I'm thinking about applying for a job in a photography studio. Although I haven't had formal training I am a member of several photography groups on the internet and I get great feedback about my work from professional photographers.

Jazz was babysat today and I got heaps of housework done.

I will go to bed now. I had to express some milk. I had a big hard lump on my left boob and it was really sore but I've gotten almost 50ml out of it even though jazz just fed an hour ago. I don't think she was actually getting anything from the left. For some reason, she always at the end of the night will feed on the right boob, then left, then right again always falls asleep for the night on the right boob!

Great to hear from you jess! I remember feeling the pressure when I bf my first and lots of people told me I should top up feed etc but I was too stubborn (and a bit lazy) and DD was putting on heaps of weight but didn't do the 4 hourly feed. Now I just pop out the girls anytime even if he only fed 30 mins before and when people make comments I just smile and say yep feeding again.

As most of you know I'm addicted to MCN but because it's been a bit wet in Perth I had to use disposables on Saturday. Well Paddy had a terrible skin reation. He had red raised makes where the nappy wrapped round his legs and touched histummy. The next day I put some cream on it and the redness went away but the skin was all flakey and dry. Definately won't be using sposies anymore.

I bath Paddy everyday unless we're out late. He loves the tub and it has become part of our night time wind down routine. Going to try QV oil in the tub instead of J&J top to toe to see if that helps his skin.

SJ I must say my boy's is advanced as well :p. He likes to weight bear on his legs and has very good neck control. Of course all my children are brillant because they take after their mother :ROFL:

:rofl: teach - i knew posting that would get a reaction !!!!

Bugger about the sposies, the weather has been sh*t here although i have managed to keep her in MCN - i think that may be due to my addiction to fluffy mail (i have to stop.. after the next 2 parcels arrive :lol:) seriously i think i have enough for 2 in nappies!!!!

jess, great to hear from you...we have the snuffles and sneezes here too. I also can feed 30 mins after a full feed with Molly - the girls at mothers group think that i am crazy (they are all topping up with formula or formular feeding when out - i am the only one excusivly feeding) and are encouraging me to bottle feed her :wtf: for my convenience grrrrhh ( i think maybe it is to subconsciously make them selves feel better - dunno)

Prama - i have started to express a little off just before bed as MJ is sometimes sleeping from 8.30pm right through to 6am and my god is it painful when i wake (usually before she does and i lie there waiting for her to wake up) so last night took about 100mls off at 1030pm and of course she woke at 3am for a feed (i think cos it was cold and she has a cold) but may keep doing that as i dont want the night time milk to drop off...

Danni - hope all goes well on the job front, DH and i are in discussions about what we should do next year, i am not sure if i will go bac to the hospital, rather work for him the days that i was going to do at the hossy, as ultimately if we grow the business now, hopefully we can be better off earlier (and that means more babies for me - would love a really big family :redface:)

Anyway gotta go, banana bread is ready to take out of the oven... oh yeah i posted a few new pics in my gallery if anyone is interested :)

have a good one

SJ do you use a sleeping bag. I got Paddy a couple of ebay with sleeves and made of polar fleece. They keep him toasty warm and I'm sure that helps him sleep better at night.

argh so so tired today, DJ just gone to sleep but I have to wash his clothes so might do that and head back to bed for a rest.

Prama - I am starting to bath DJ (either myself or Doni) everyday now just to get him used to a routine. Doni took him into the bath this time with water filled right up and Doni just had him floating in the bath, and he absolutely loved it. On the expressing, I have to, because he is so fussy on the boob, the paed said to just give him formula if he gets too fussy on the boob which means my boobs are still full arghhhh so no rest for me :(

Jess - that is great Maddy is doing so well :)

Teach - sorry to hear Paddy had a bad skin reaction to the disposables. I haven't used disposables since DJ was 1.5 weeks old.

Danni - you probably just have more in the right boob I know I do. My right side is always more full compared to the left. Mind you my left is more creamier so go figure haha

Chat again soon

Shellxxx

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Danni - you probably just have more in the right boob I know I do. My right side is always more full compared to the left. Mind you my left is more creamier so go figure haha

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my lefty is always fuller and i sometimes look lopsided!!! :rofl:

Hi Grls - how is everyone going?

For some reason my i ave been feeding less but ive had a rough two days...the other day i fed him from 2.30am till 5am break than again from 6-7.45am.... i couldnt deal with it so i went to my mother in law and she placed him off to bed...mind u i should if slept as well but for some reason i didnt.... than to top it all off my mother is fully stressing me out with BF...she keeps going on about me not eating and to keep eating and than get this (i cant believe she said it) she said why dont i give Joshua to my sisterinlaw for her to BF him/....... WTF..... i was distraught.... i have milk i just dont understand why he isnt putting on weight.... oh and sometimes he feeds do go for an hour from both boobs.... other times yes its a very long time....

To answer your Q Prama yeah i did go to mothergroup and it was really good but a bit depressing cause i saw other cute little bubs his age who were fatter.... he just looks so scrawnny and long :( . Im going on Monday so i'll get himweight again and see what my options are... i was topping him up with formula after BF but for some reason it later didnt sit with him well????? Ive also started giving him infacol as he has sooooo much wind and i cant see he is in pain... poor bubba.

Tina - have a great trip...

Shell- good to see little one is doing well...... i think its this continuous weather change beautiful one day cloudy and windy the next...i was also told by someone to put Vicks on their feet and the heat will actually work its way up adn its better for them.... havent tried it but who knows. im also tempted to top joshua up again cause he is loosing weight but to date the comm. nurse and pead. havent told me to.. just like u he is long... im soooooo confused and stressed out.

Any suggestions girl - Joshua is just not sleeping he will fallalseep in my arms for 15mintures than wake up screaming i cant do anything to soothe him......

Hi Ania, one of the girls at my MG was topping up her bubs with formula, well the farts were awful and poo was soo... health nurse told her to try a new forula (she switched to s27 or something like that - sorry i dont do formula so not sure) and bubs was a new man... she siad if you are switching you hae to d it for a few days to see any difference.
Dont know if this helps you at all, im not in the same position as you but trying to be helpful :)

Try not to stress over your bubbas weight, tell your mum to go jump too, im sure she is trying to be 'helpful' but you dont need anything said like that to you at the moment. you are doing a great job, Joshua is getting longer right, well maybe he is not going to be a chubby baby... a long bean pole may be him... we all dont look the same,nor do we eat the same amount - as long as the comm nurse and pead are happy DONT WORRY :)

As for the crying not sure, is it a new cry? is he wet? i have noticed that MJ now hates to be wet (were as it never use to bother her) and she will get very upset about it.
Maybe he is crying from wind pain??? again maybe the formula
:hug: you sound like you need one

So tired, DJ so grizzly today. I have booked him in to see an osteopath, was talking to a friend of what I go through with feeding problems, unsettling, wind and disturbed sleep and she suggested I take him to my osteopath because it could be a result of the trauma he suffered at birth. He still has the dent in his head from where he was trying to get through the birth canal in posterior position. Anyway worth a try and my apt is on Monday so hopefully this will work. I would like to enjoy breastfeeding, he just always comes on and off all of the time - gets sooooo frustrating. I am almost at the stage of considering giving up breastfeeding because it is so challenging for me.

Ania - yeah he still has a snuffly nose and I keep using Little Fess which helps and use the vicks baby balsam on his singlet. I have no choice but to top up in formula, he doesn't sit on my breast long enough to get enough from me and I know that, so he is much more settled if I give him the top-up even if it is only 40ml he guzzles down. I so know how you feel on the weight thing.....

Well girls, back to my time-out while DJ is sleeping. Think my hubby has pulled up in driveway, going to get him to cook dinner to give me a break.


Shell xxxx

hi girls!

yesterday we put poopy in his bed about 9.30 but he slept at about 10 and woke up at 7! my boobs got so full, and they started to really hurt. i woke up at 4am and had to express a little. a real shame! it's good when they sleep long hours but not good for our boobies.

shell - thanks for your wonderful supportive message
i got him weighed today and he put on 400g in 2 weeks and grew 2cm. must be a 3mth growth spurt. he's in the 5th percentile, moved from 3rd, he's still tiny but i have to remember he was 2 weeks early. im still glad cos he only put on 150g over 2 weeks over last weigh in. Although it's only the 5th percentile in height and weight, im really happy.:dance::hooray: I'm going to continue with the formula top up.
shell - sorry about having to top up and express. i was expressing, bf-ing and then topping up in the early days and i was getting so little sleep. it's really hard work. i hope it's only for a short while.

sj - oohh.. my heart just melted looking at mj, she's such a beautiful angel!!
i wish ppl wouldnt tell other mothers to do this and that just because they are! if you are happy bf exclusively then why try to change that. i bf and top up and sometimes just formula when out, but i wouldnt expect other mothers to do that. when i bf, poopy's still hungry so thats why i top up. but that's what;s working for me and him, doesnt mean it will work for others. yeah, i think sometimes a bit of bf envy can creep in. they should be happy for you instead of trying to change you. :angry:

jess - good on you for sticking to your guns! it annoys me when ppl try to tell you this and that. my SIL, i love her and she's fantastic but i got annoyed at our mother's day picnic. poopy had a hoodie on and Steve said he looks like a thug, and she said you shouldnt call him that, and steve said that i call him poopy, haha. and she said im sure prama wont call him poopy when he's 30. and i said i might still call him that. and she got offended and went im just saying what i think etc but doesnt matter. then when we left steve told poopy, come on buggalugs' and she said not to call him that. i mean, he's just an itty bitty baby, and we're his parents! it's our affectionate terms for him and it kinda ruined my special poopy name for me at that time but now i dont care. ppl say things and sometimes it takes the special things away. grrrr

ania - sorry to hear you're having a hard time.
i know what you mean about looking at other chubby babies at MG. i feel the same too, but the mums there are great and not judgemental (yet). are you going too see someone re your feeding? my heart goes out to you, i know how you feel

will write more.. poopy's waking up
:baby: wanted to use this for the longest time!!

poopy as weepy in his sleep.
so im back.

shell - poopy sometimes pulls on and off and also wrestles at my boob like a croc with a prey. the mcn said today it could be cos he might be getting impatient with the let down or it's almost empty. but thats me, i know you have more milk and better let down than me. but she suggested switching sides and see what happens. i tried that today and it seemed to calm him down a bit.

ania - thats awful ppl saying all that. would you like to meet up one day just to have a chat? maybe westfields parramatta? lots of hugs to you, sweetie.. xoxoxoxo

Just been in tears so upset. My husband came home asking what is for dinner and I have been so exhausted looking after DJ and asked if he could cook dinner and he said I have been out working all day and you expect me to cook dinner. I responded that what I do is a big job as well, and I needed some time out. He said he is now the breadwinner yada yada anyway I ended up cooking dinner, and just gave him an expressed bottle and top-up and said here you go, give him breastmilk first then the top-up. So, in the study, and considering going to bed because I am so tired but knowing my luck I just won't sleep. Why do men have to be such pigs!!!! I expected more from my husband, he is normally so sensitive and understanding. He must have had a bad day at work but no point taking it out on me, I have had a tough day as well. I almost walked out the door because I got so upset.

Meeting up with a friend of mine at the towers tomorrow and she is also getting dramas from her partner saying she should go back to full-time work and she has a 7 week old baby. Must be a bad mood day for all men today!!!!

Shell xxx

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shell - thanks for your wonderful supportive message
i got him weighed today and he put on 400g in 2 weeks and grew 2cm. must be a 3mth growth spurt. he's in the 5th percentile, moved from 3rd, he's still tiny but i have to remember he was 2 weeks early. im still glad cos he only put on 150g over 2 weeks over last weigh in. Although it's only the 5th percentile in height and weight, im really happy.:dance::hooray: I'm going to continue with the formula top up.
shell - sorry about having to top up and express. i was expressing, bf-ing and then topping up in the early days and i was getting so little sleep. it's really hard work. i hope it's only for a short while.

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That is such great news, sooooo happy for you Prama. You must have a big smile on your face :)

We were talking about size at MG today and how some of the babies are long and skinny, short and chubby or like mine, a giant! We've officially topped the scales at 7020g and 63cm long. When I was measuring him he kept getting taller and taller and then I realised i was pulling him further down the table:cryinglaugh:.

Ania hang in there :hug:. Sometimes Paddy if Paddy's a bit unsettled I try to settle rather than feed. If I keep feeding him it sort of becomes a vicous circle of wind, burp, sleep, cry, wind, feed, sleep, cry, wind etc. Sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't. Great that your mil was able to help you. Are you able to access the aba? They might have some good tips for you. Most of the girls at mg are having trouble with their bubs falling aslep in their arms and then waking as soon as they try to put them down. All you can do is try to soothe him and let him know you're there, it's a scary world sometimes ;)

shell :hug: :comfort:
so sorry about what's happened. hope doni cools down and everything gets sorted.
ppl think just because you stay at home, you have it easy. they dont understand you dont even get a chance to have a pee properly. at least at work you can go to the loo when you want, and even if you dont have a chance to have a real coffee break, you can have one at your desk. and you chat with other adults.
thanks for your kinds words abt poopy's weight. i do feel better. i feel like im doing something right now.

oh i asked the mcn abt thumb in out, she said at this stage it doesnt matter... it's only when they are older and start to really grab things and hold them, you have to check. is this what the mcn told you sj?

Thanks Prama - he wondered why I was upset earlier and I said it was the way he treated me earlier so when I was bathing DJ he put his plate in the dishwasher - which is a start..... My day is a vicious cycle of washing clothes, nappies, and looking after DJ and some housework if I can ever get around to it. Yeah a finished cuppa never happens, I always have half drunken cups of tea or coffee lying around...... and lunch don't get me started on that.... I gulp it down so fast I end up with indigestion haha ahhh the joys..... Going to head to bed shortly, just having a cuppa before bed and hopefully I will sleep. I am looking forward to getting out of the house tomorrow with my friend - a good coffee and chat.

I think it is great Poopy did so well in his weigh-in, it does make you proud when you see the weight on the scales have increased since last time etc.... I am getting DJ weighed again next week so hopefully he will have put his weight back on that he lost so I can be cheering ;) kehehee


Hope you all have a great night girls!!!

Shell xxxx

shell sorry you have had a crapy night with hubby they just dont understand do they.
My hubby wants to grab me for cuddles the min he walks in and chat baout work andgets abit funny when I keep walking round the house doing stuff and ask him to do this and that. I felt bad tonight because WIll has been ill and practically in my arms all day I too had the finding time to pee thing happen.I just need to hand him over so I can do things like put the washing away pullthe bed together and put another load of washing on. I watched a lot of tv today but with WIll in my arms and sometimes in tears. Its exhasuting some days.
Will cant breath when he breast feeds atm no matter how I position him I have tried expressing but it kills me and so little comes out I am worried if this keeps up he will wean himself.To be honest I just want him ot be hydrated however he can be atm. I am trying to get a docs appointment for tommorow i have used the little fess all week but now he is coughing as well and his chest sounds terrible you can hear the mucous. Any other suggestions? I have had to elevate him to help him sleep all the time He did have some green mucous which was showing signs of the end of infection but now its back to half clear and half cloudy.Poor little thing it breaks my heart becasue I know he is uncomefortable
got to go my boy is awake again
Bron x

shell - men sometimes dont have a clue they have hurt our feelings.
hehe dont forget to add the endless feeding and expressing.
have a good rest and hope DJ sleeps a bit longer.

im sure dj will put his weight back. he's a really good boy! i know he will put back all that weight.


bron your message just came. is will 3mths yet? you could try to get a vaporiser for him.

gotta go, he;s hugnry