Babies Born March 1st - 15th 2008

Morning girls,

Bron - how about puting him in the bathroom with you in a bouncer and having a really long hot shower - not only will the steam help Wills chest but will do you the world of good to just stand there under the water (bugger any water restrictions, i am sure that there are days that you dont manage to get under the water or as soon as you get in you have to get out again!!!)
In general - green snot +bacterial, yellow snot means viral... what this means to you is that yellow snot means that antibiotics wont help as they only work on bacterial infections (thats why when people have a cold there is no point getting anties) SO maybe it is treatable with something...
The other thing is maybe you could have a look on the internet (i will too) about using eucalyptus in wills bath, dont think you can, but maybe really dilute may help, the other thing is obas oil (from the chemist) i am sure that if you put this on a cloth that is under his head (on a bit that is near his head, not under it) it wil help with his breathing.
One other thing that i just thought of.... maybe if you put Vicks on YOU above where his face would be when he feeds, maybe the vapours could help.
Try not to worry hun, he may also go off his food for a bit - i know i do when i feel sick, make sure that you are eating well too, so that all that goodness goes to him when he does take a bit (we are fighting colds so i made chicken stock and have been eating soup loads... dont know i it will help but i feel better)
The other thing to bare in mind is that if he cant feed from a breast, he probably wont be able to feed from a bottle either as it is because of the breathing... if you are really worried about him feeding maybe you could express a little and syringe it in, very slow process i know, but he can feed that way.
Hope this helps

Prama well done on the weight gain - you must be soooooo proud of yourself for sticking with the feeding - you are amazing!:cheer:
thanks for asking about the thumbs

Shell - sorry you have had a crap evening, i hope you got a better night...
Men are very insesitve at times... DH also wants to talk when we get in, i use that time to sort washing and finish dinner - we eat at 9pm, after MJ is in bed, its just easier that way. i perpare some bits during the day - usually i walk to the shops and buy what we are going to have and then once she is in bed it is just a matter of finish cooking...
If i cant be bothered, i do a pasta bake or something and get it ready during the day when she has a sleep, then all i have to do is heat it up... not a favourite meal by any standard, but thats what he gets!
Saturday DH usually cooks. I had a go at him the other day, i cook, do all the dishes and then when we finish dinner, DH takes the plates and just dumps them in the kitchen... we have a dis washer - how hard is it to put them in there... when he cooks, i do all the dishes and load the d/washer - we also have 2 or 3 extra people for dinner saturday, so there is more plates too grrrrh (at least he put the dishes in the d/washer last night, so maybe it had some inmpact - we will see it if it lasts thou)
Shell maybe when you have a good day, make some meals that can just be heated, i make a big batch of spag sauce, freeze some, make a lasagne (half gets frozen) and we have some that day, that way, hen you hare having a crapy day you can just reheat, and if he doesnt like it, then he can cook something else! :P
Yes the men are the bread winners at the moment, BUT ,who isgoing to look after you beautiful bubba if you have to go back and share that load of earner - someone that may bring him up in a way that does not suit you.:wall:
At least Doni can do a feed for you, thats still all up to me :)

Teach - wow what a boy - i bet you get just as sick of hearing about how big he is as Prama does on how small poopy is!
Not using sleeping bags, what type do you use, and do you still use blanket and sheets?
Last night gave her an extra singlet and she slep from 9pm to wait for it.... 7am!!!!
My god was she hungrey when she woke!

Oh.... now i was right about Ovulating.... i know this cos i got a visit from AF last night, although i am happy that i am not pg i am shattered that it is all over, was hoping for a bit longer, but i know it is cos MJ is sleeping through the nights and tbh i would rather her sleep longer and me have AF!

Wow, what i long post :redface: cant believe that she is back asleep again!

sj - bugger about AF but glad about not pg!
i usually have leftovers for lunch. Either DH cooks or i cook. if he cooks, i do all the washing up. im the dishwasher! but if i cook, he cuts up the stuff and i cook and wash up, he's hopeless at washing up. some days we just get some takeaway. and then takeaway leftovers!
im the opposite, i want to talk and talk when he comes home. i feel a bit lost without adult conversation and just having one way conversation during the day, and just baby talk.

Poopy's GP also said we could put a tiny tiny bit of eucalyptus oil on his bedding, his sheet/blankie so he can inhale a little while he sleeps.
thanks a good idea abt having vicks on us while bf..

thanks sj - my goal of bf was 4mths, which i think i will reach. but i have to continue till 6mths as we are os and dont want him to get sick and get all the antibodies from me. if i can do 6mths, i'll be over the moon.
im a bit apprehensive about feeding when he has teeth. i hear they really bite. eeekkk.
hehe, thanks that emoticon is so cute.
well done on the sleep!
poopy slept from 10pm to 7am! i put on his wondersuit, but he still manages to get a finger or two out! and a thicker wrap. and i didnt feel overfull till about 6am. so yay!
he has a little nap about 7ish -8pm so we eat then. then we give him a bath at 9, then a last feed, then cuddles and bed.
we're still in wrap. he thinks it's a game now. as we wrap him and we turn him to tuck the end of the wrap, he giggles! i have a sleeping bag which i havent really used yet.

he;s asleep, i should do something aroud the hosue but couldnt be bothered. anway, he will be up soon for his next feed.

i hope trina is having a good time!!

SJ I've got a couple of polar fleece ones like they sell in target, big w etc. I put these on him when it's cold with his jumpsuit underneath and sometimes a pair of socks. When the weather is warmer I use sleevless ones made of a lighter material. I don't use blankets, he didn't really like being wrapped anyway. I just adjust what he is wearing underneath to make it warmer or cooler. His sleeping through at night coincided with me using a sleeping bag (think he was getting cold in early hours of the morning) and not changing his nappy overnight (use a night nappy or BBH with a microfleece booster in between the BBH inserts).

Bron I saw a product at the chemist that you can use from 3mth +. I think it's basically vicks in invidual satchets that you put on their bedding. It's hard when they've got a cold at this age. Paddy's given me his and it makes me feel tired so no wonder they get grumpy. I don't know if those vapourisers are any good do you know anyone you could borrow one to try?

Off to change my fourth pooey nappy in the past four hours!

Hi girls,

Well having a much better day with DJ Yipeeeee he did a massive greeny/brown poo this morning. had to expect that colour would change since I now have to give him top-up in formula. It stunk so much!!! went out for coffee with my friend and had a lovely time, and walked around shops, saw a great jacket that I want so hoping to give Doni a hint for my birthday coming up :) He is going to take the day off for my birthday since he has to work on the next two weekends for New Zealand work trip, so that will be nice, probably will go out to lunch.

Bron - DJ has a small cold so I have been putting baby vicks on his singlet so he can still smell it. We are also pulling out lots of snot in the mornings, hasn't gone to his chest yet. It is so hard as it gets colder, lots of bugs going around. Just keep his fluids up as best you can, if he doesn't take breast or bottle try feeding him through a big syringe maybe?? It might be a bit tedious but at least his fluids will be up :) Hope that helps.

SJ - good idea on preparing and freezing food on my good days, think I might just do that, great suggestion ;)

Prama - what a great sleep from Poopy - that is fantastic!!! On Monday I will get Poopy to touch DJ's hand and hopefully that good sleep will rub off on him kehehehee DJ is sleeping from 9'ish to 3'ish which isn't too bad, just wish he would sleep through til 6am kehehe

HOpe you are all well.

Speak soon

Shell xxxx

shell - yaay for poo! lol. is DJ much more settled now?
Glad you had a good lunch! Is she feeling better about going back to work and all?
yup, hehe poopy can touch dj's hand to pass on some sleep dust. haha

today is my turn to be sad...
i posted a while ago that i wanted to go have mussels for mothers day at this restaurant in newington. i told dh that i wanted this for mothers day and nothing happened. so i was upset and when he said he wanted to get me a present, i said i didnt want it cos i told what i wanted and he forgot. so what's the point of getting me something i dont want when i cant get what i want.
anyway, he made me tell him what i wanted, so i told him. ive been wanting to have mussels for so long, and couldnt have it when i was pg and ttc. so it's been a yr. he said he sort of remembered me telling him i wanted it but didnt remember that i wanted it for mothers day. oh whatever! i got upset that i told him several times for mothers day and he didnt remember.
anyway, ive been waiting to go, since i thought he got the message and that we're going os in a few weeks.
so nothings happened and we've got plans till we go away.
so i brought it up again today and i was so upset. (beign at home you hve a lot of time to get worked up). he said so when do you want to go, and that he forgot cos he cant have mussels (allergy). i told him why do i have to tell you when i want to go. why cant you ever say, would like to go here at this time etc. and there's other food at this place. i would never forget if he wanted to have something. ive booked for him to have steaks etc when i dont eat beef.
if i have tell him where and when i might as well organise and book myself. then it's not special anymore. it would be nice if he could do it for me.
he can organise to go to see his mate at stanwell tops next week, why cant he organise something so simple for me..
im just so disappointed and sad.
he even said he'd make me a special malaysian meal for mothers day and it never happened and i made it myself.
im just so tired of being stuck at home and on my toes all the time and not being able to relax.
at least a meal out to make me feel special would have been nice.
sorry for the whinge.

Prama :hug: sorry you are haviing a rubbis day... i had one too
Men are pains.
sometimes its like we dont even exist, i am sure they dont think that are making us fee like that, but grrrh.
I hope you get your mussels - you should book to go there with your girlfriends and get DH to look after poopy - that will learn him ;)

I think I am suffering from insomnia - I am soooooo overtired that when it comes to going to sleep I just can't sleep. It takes me ages to get to sleep after feeding DJ's early morning feed, I end up thinking about stuff and just can't sleep. arghhhh Doni got up for an early morning bike ride so asked him to do his 6am feed for me so I could get some resty. Anyone else like this???

Otherwise things are all good here. Ever since I have been giving DJ a top-up in formula he is a different baby, so much happier and content. My breastmilk obviously doesn't fill him up. He is even starting to fill out everywhere in his body so i think this weeks weigh-in will be an improvement ;)

Prama - I agree with SJ, why don't you just organise a lunch with your girlfriends and leave Poopy with hubby :) Men just don't get it sometimes. Doni is the same.


I wonder how Trina is going? I bet she is having a great time.


Hope we are all well

Shell xxxx

thanks sj, shell. dh is trying to be really nice today. i know he feels bad, but then it's always the same. i am very grateful that he helps out so much but sometimes you want little things that are special to you, esp. now that you dont even have 'me' time anymore.
will try to organise to for mussels, maybe a mothers group thing. htey have great woodfire pizza too. yum yum.

sj - hope you feel better today after a bad day yesterday. lots of hugs!

shell - hhhooooorraayyy y that dj is more settled! im sso glad. is he sleeping longer? im sure he will put on weight at the next visit. yaaay!

lets hope bubs tip scales to the right and us to the left! i wish poopy could suck out all the extra kgs out of my boobs!

Thanks for all the advice girls. We bought a vapouriser which helped us all alot also some baby balsom which was great on WIlls chest and I had vicks on mine so when he was close he got that as well. He is so used ot having his nosed suck now he only crys for a very short time its liek he knows its going to help him breathe. He really is such a good boy despite a cold he slept from 10 pm till 5am which was great and today he was awake for the 5 hours mum and I were out and didnt fuss until hungry then just watched the people go by.

On a sad note I think my milk has dried up I have being trying to express my hand and by pump and he sucks so hard but obvioulsy doesnt get much out. I have been having trouble with the lymph nodes under my arms and my scars hurt from where I had some lumps removed. My boobs are also soft as..how do I know when its over as far as milk goes? I cant help but think its my fault becasue I had been topping him up but he was always offered booby and took what ever he could get and was always hungry afterward. SJ with your nursing background do you think that my lower platletes and low neutrophils could affect. I know when they are know my body uses all its energy to fight things off and I have been really flat and had this cold along with Will. My mum said her milk dried up at 4 weeks with both my brother and I but I dont think it has much to do with my body. I want will to be satisfied and hydrated and will do whatever..I guess physcologically I wasnt ready for it to end.

We had our second mothers group this week and I was amazed at how many people were bottle feeding I think the health nurse was too they all has different reasons and I felt less guilty for topping up but not sure about total bottle feeding. It was a fun group although I had flashbacks to my early childhhod trianing with all the home made toys and books and activites that we had to learn how to makes.ALso had a visit fomr the dental health clinic which was really interestingas I have covered dental care for 2- 5 year olds but not newborns. So now we have started to rub a light cloth on Wills gums to get him used to having something in his mouth.mind you hed suck on your big toe if you put it in there *L*

Hope the weather was nice at your place we had al ovley afternoon out and about with Grandma only to come back and find our garage half demolished ready for the folks to build their new house behind us. MUm and Dad are going away for 6 weeks in a fortnigh and I realy dont know what I am going to do I wil miss mums company so much our relationship has really changed since Will was born and we are so close.

Yay for moe I soaked in the bath for an hour tongiht and read mags that a girlfriend gave me...very indulgent.

OK I have blabbed on and done no personals at all sorry just needed to type I guess *L*
Hope you are all well.
Bron xx

PS prama I luuuuuuuuuuuurve muscles I say book for yoruself now and eat a huge bowl full!!

Doni just left for New Zealand and not back until Saturday next week (boo hoo!!!) DJ is asleep and yes I should be sleeping right now but I am too overtired arghhhh and daytime sleeps only last for 40 mins so by the time I get to sleep it is time to wake up so no point in trying to sleep during the day haha......

Mum looked after DJ for us for a few hours last night so we could see a friend for her birthday, it was nice to get out and we were home by midnight. We were both exhasted!!!

I have decided that if DJ still has feeding problems from my breast in the next two weeks I am giving up breastfeeding. I just don't enjoy it anymore and everyone I speak to about it tell me I should just give it up. I don't have to justify myself to anyone and I should do what makes me happier. I know bottle feeding means having to sterilise bottles and prepare formula etc, but I can't sit there and enjoy breastfeeding, I am constantly looking down and what DJ is doing and if he is latched on or not. There is no point me seeing a lactation consultant. I always said I would give it 4 months and it is nearly 3 months, so I think I will see how I go in the next two weeks which will make it 3 months. It is still a great start. I might even go back to expressing full-time and giving him breast milk that way. He isn't filling up on my breastmilk at all. We have tried even giving him breast milk in the bottle and he only takes 80ml of it and then will gulp down a top-up of formula..... Mum thinks I haven't got enough nourishment in my breastmilk and I need to eat properly.....

Bron - I think SJ mentioned to me once that when your boobs are softer and floppy it actually means your milk has settled, because I thought the same thing with mine that my milk had dried up. And yeah my mothers group has alot more people bottle-feeding as well, so I don't feel so bad when I give DJ top-ups.

Prama - make sure you make a date for your mussels lunch :) kehehee and yeah I am seeing community nurse on Thursday so will get DJ weighed then and also talk to her about breastfeeding.


DJ is waking now, off I go.... That was a 20 min sleep so I am glad I didn't sleep now haha

Shell xxxx

After putting him back down to sleep after that feed earlier he then slept for 3 hours I was sooo happy. I didn't go to sleep because I wasn't sure how long he would sleep but ended up being able to relax and watch some tv etc it was sooooo nice. I have even caught up on some washing as well woohoooo so I feel good now :)

I signed up for pole dancing classes starting on Saturday and I can't wait. I actually did pole dancing classes two years ago and it got me into great shape really quickly as well and was great for my self-esteem as well, so really looking forward to doing it again :) It is all for good fun, not something I plan to do as a living haha no way..... Just a fitness and confidence booster :)

It;s so quiet in here on the weekends! haha
I'm feeling really weird!!
For teh first time in almost 4mths I'm at home ALL BY MYSELF! DH has gone to MIL's and I'm a bit tired. so he said he will take poopy with him. i feel strange without poopy with me at home. it's been 15mins and i miss him. but im enjoying it but feel guilty at the same time.

bron -
sorry about how you're feeling. pls dont feel bad for offering the bottle. sometimes we just have to. i dont think my milk is enough either, i was feeding on the boob with bottles in between but no top up a few weeks ago and he only put on 150g, and since then ive been topping up with formula and he put on 400g, i also think it was a growth spurt.
my boobs feel floppy too. they say that happens once your milk settles in. i dunno if my milk is low.. motilium isnt helping much either. poopy's always hungry after the boob.
i hope you're feeling better and sorry you're hurting from the lymph node removal and all. i feel so tired too.
some days i get so down from bf-ing and topping up and hard work. and i think it will be easier when he's on solids and im not bf-ing. but then preparing solids is a lot of work too. and then there's the mess they make and cleaning up everywhere.
at the early days, i wasnt ready to give up bf so i was feeding him just in the morning and at night. maybe you could do that? i knew i would be devasted if i gave it up 100%. emotionally and mentally i couldnt.

shell
i know what you mean about bf-ing. i dont really enjoy it, i do it because i have to and want him to have the best. i suppose i would enjoy it if he was putting on lots of weight and didnt seem hungry after each feed. then i know im doing something right and it would boost my confidence.
i think giving him EBM is a good idea. cos he will still have your milk. I'm sure you will do what's teh best for you both.
bottles are a hassle. im nervous about flying cos i ahve to carry bottles and formula too. and carry tins with us. such a pain. iwish my milk was enough. i feel like a failure thinking of that.
mum said there's NAN there but not the HA. and the LC said not change the milk.
sigh it's so hard. im constantly thinking of feeding and feeding right.
i wish i had it easy.
anyway, im almost at my milestone of 4mths. but will soldier on until i come back cos i dont want poopy to pick up anything.
im fine feeding him at home with boob and top up. but going out, bothers me.
am going into the office on thursday, and im planning when and how to give him the boob and bottle. if i take just the bottle then im scared my supply will drop.
and then we're going to stanwell tops on sunday. im worried about the long drive and feeding him on the boob in someone else's hse. sigh.
my poor poopy.
shell - see you tomorrow. im not looking forward to the heavy workout!! but it will be nice to see you!

oh i forgot to mention.. i started seeing my councillor. first appt was last monday, i felt a bit more confident after that. she's a psychologist and does spiritual healing. she did reiki on me and said im thinking too much. so much energy wasted. told me to relax. i got a message at the end of the session - i cant be like other mums, i can only be myself and being myself is good enough.'
my next appt is on the 7th. im glad im getting help.

shell - just got your msg.
hehe great pole dancing. sounds like lots of fun, you will burn lots of calories.
it's hard to sleep in the day isnt it. cos you never know how long htey will sleep. poopy sleeps for such a short time, it's not worth it. as you said, as soona s you start to fall asleep they wake up. and end up being more tired.

Bron if you want to keep bf one of the best ways to increase your milk supply is to feed on the breast more often. The top up feed can interfere with your milk supply but it's never too late to build it up again. Sometimes a couple of quiet days at home help. We are always doing too much, aren't we? But as Prama said being yourself is good enough, go with your gut and do what works for you.

I'm sorry you girls are finding bf hard. I really enjoy it and it suits my lifestyle. Like Trina I seem to live in the car so it's one less thing for me to carry ifykwim. When you have your next baby (and you probably will) you may not have the same problems or your breasts may settle into bf more quickly. Another thing I like is the fact it gives me time to sit down and be with Paddy. I think I'd have to fight the rest of the family if we were feeding him with the bottle.

Another booby call ...

teach I was increasing feeds and he was so hungry and I also expressed as much as I coudl but the milk just would not come that way and didnt with an electric pump in the hospital either. LC thought perhaps when I had the surgeries I had quite a bit of damage to the milk ducts.I would be happy if Will kept having a morning and night breastfeed as I to enjoy that feeling nad have never found it painfull at all althoughI dont find the bottle feeds much less closs to be hoenst. Prep of the bottles etc has never really worried me as I Have done it right from the start in hospital I was also preping it all when I as able to move around.I am going to have a blood count this week and ama fraid if things get any lower then I will end up back on drugs anyway and then it really will all be over.


Prama if I feed when I am out I always bottle feed and Wil gets boob when we get home I find it much easier. Hope things arent too ldifficult when you are travelling.

Go shell on the pole dancing I have heard its great excercise..I have hard enough time lifting my legs to put my stockigns on some days let alone wrapping it around a pole *L* bet it will be fun

I have just sat here in tears after watching 60 mins Lauren Huxley's mum and my dad are cousins and we were kept up to date on how things were going for her but to see the pics of her skull were truly shocking. To see her dad Pat so upset and all he and Chris have done for her makes you terrified that anything would ever happen to your own children. Lauren is a credit to herself and he parents as to how she has overcome what that animal did to her.

AM having an ovaltine and calming down a bit before off ot bed. Hubby got home t 2.15 am on Friday and then snored from 12 till 4am last night and I am shattered.
Hope your weekend was good and here is to a good week ahead.
Bron xx

Hey girls,

Just put DJ to bed and hoping he will sleep through til 3am (fingers crossed) kehehee I think tomorrow I will just start giving DJ expressed breast milk because he just doesn't stay on the boob long enough to get anything. The funny thing is, when I am out and about and feed him in a place other than home, he is really good on the boob, find it so strange.

Prama
oh wow that would have been nice for you when Steve took Poopy out and left you by yourself. You need to have some 'me' time. I would go stir crazy if I didn't have a bit of time by myself a week. On Saturday I went out at 3pm to have some me time and I got a flat tyre arghhhh so much for me time. Doni came down and tried to fix it but I have mag wheels which are hard to come off so had to renew my NRMA roadside assistance membership - so that was $255 arghhhhh so all in all my me time ended up being 30 mins of grocery shopping haha I wanted to look around at clothes shops and try stuff on, a bit hard with a pram.

Yeah I agree on the breastfeeding as well, if DJ was settled after a breastfeed then I would enjoy more as well, so I think expressing might be the way to go. I used to do it alot more at the beginning so Doni could help. I don't know just so hard.....

Can you take a can of formula with you? I am not sure how that goes with quarantine mind you...... probably not.... The brand your mum can get is still the same brand ie. Nestle so it has to be just as good ;)

haha on tomorrow, eating so much this weekend, so need it :( haven't stopped eating all afternoon today. I think it is from being able to relax this afternoon.

Well done on seeing the counsellor, that is great news. I did a reiki course a few years ago, but forgotten how to do it. So happy it helped sweetie.

And yeah can't wait to get back into my pole dancing, it helped tone up my body and also great for the self-esteem.


BronI missed that interview but she is amazing especially what she has been through.


well girls, I am going to relax and watch some tv before heading to bed.

Hope you have a great night.

Sooooo hoping DJ sleeps well tonight for me :)

Shell xxx

Hello girls,

just a quick one from me tonight, buggeed!

BRON - yes if your counts are dropping you milk possibly will be affected, if your body is having a difficult time fnctioning normally, it will sacrifice the milk after a while, as unlike when we are pg, your body wont keep just giving out - thats why when we excercise too much milk can dry out (good excuse in my books not to for a while ;))... but in saying that, my boobs are rarely hard anymore, only after a big overnight stint.
What Teach says is right, you need to offer more to increase your supply.
Im wondering, are you letting down properly? if you sit and are anxious maybe this is the prolem... i know this as when i express my let down is very very slow and bugger all comes out, them when i feel the tingle, whooosh its starts fowing like no tomorrow.
I cant really give you any advice, i seem to have loads of milk (but my boobs at times look smaller and are way softer), but will be keeping my fingers crossed for you :)

SHELL sorry that you dont enjoy feeding, do whats right for you, maybe expressing and bottle feeding will work out well for you... best of both worlds so to speak. hope you do OK with Doni away...
I find it really really hard o get back to sleep after a feed, sometimes i lay there thinking about ridiiculos stuff - maybe you should do your meditation CD again.

PRAMA - i love reiki - i did the reiki one course years ago and when i first got pg did it on my abdo every night!!! Glad you had a great session and have got a bit of a boost out of it. Its a funny way of putting it, but yeah thinking too much is exhausting!

Ania and Jess hope you had a great weekend
Teach has the nappy rash healed? got fluggy mail yesterday - some loulou aio - nonight naoppies atm - but mj is not a heavy wetter (yet)

Trina - cant wait to hear about your hols!

We had a ok weeken, Saturday got some family pics taken, nice dinner, then the bomb shell... DSS was on the toliet and this little voice cam out - 'um Sam..... i think a worm just came out of my bum' BUGGER - he pulled out out and squished it so i didnt see, but today has been washing, cleaning and scrubing the whole house and clothes and bedding AHHHHHH - poor little thing, had nightmares last night about the worms nibbling him and he was in tears before bed, no matter how much we told him that it was really common and that loads of kids had it, it really upset him - poor little thing, for a 10yr old he acts really really grown up most of the time and its times like this that just makes you realise how young and vunerable he is :(

Well thats it for me - he is staying tonight as his mum didnt think that she could be bothered cleaning today, :wtf: and it was just too much for her... so we have him another night and i have to get him to school in the morning (45min drive - thats 1 and a half hour round trip in peak hour!!!) i dont mind though, he is so helpful and lovely to have around, besides its another evening of bonding with his little sister

Oh yeah - Teach, DSS asked if i could express some milk so he could feed her - i guess its helpful at times, but im greedy and want that time all to myslef!!! he got a kick out of feeding her thou!

Nighty night

quickie. going to sleep now.
bron - hope you're ok. an lc i saw said she had very little when expressing but had plenty of milk. i dunno what else to do to increase milk. poopy doesnt always detach. he can go on and on so i can never tell if he's had enough and just sucking on. i watch the clock now, 20mins each side.

shell - steve was away for 45mins but it was nice nevetheless to have the house to myself.

sj - poor dss. how's his mother's finger? is it still infected. haha
thanks reiki is good, when they tell you to relax, i find it hard, and not to think so much i think more!

gotta go, here's to a good week!

bron - i missed the interview too, but ive been following it and so glad justise has been served. big hugs to your family.

shell - hope dj slept well.

Morning girls,

DJ slept from 9 til 3 which was great so I got a good 4 hour sleep, but then after that he was restless and waking up every hour. Did that last week as well.... Feel very tired but not too bad. My mum is hoping to pop around later today so hopefully then I will get some rest while she looks after DJ for me.

Prama- 45 mins is still good especially just to have time to yourself :) and I shall see you at 10:30, not sure how I will go soooo tired haha I will need that coffee afterwards :)

SJ - yeah maybe I should do the meditation cd afterwards. didn't have any problems falling asleep after the 3am feed this morning.

I better get myself organised so I can head to class.

Chat soon
Shell xxx

Wow what a morning! i did a load of washing and had it hung before taking DSS to school, then got the second load on! Its atually been good, i have 2 loads of washing and the house tidied and its not even 10am...
Prama - yeah her finger is better, but she is now dying of a 'virus' (AKA a cold!!!)

Shel - just a thought... Molly Jane makes a lot of noise in her sleep and loads of ehh ehh and grunting sounds... initially i would get up and feed her, then i figured that she was making these noises in her sleep, so i left her... she would self settle and sleep for another hour or so. Now i only get up if she actually cries or is awake... their sleep cycle is 45 mins so will wake and usually just need to get themselves back off to sleep.
I dont know if this applies to you at all... of course Molly Jane is not hungry at these times, just starting to wake (with what sounds like wind, but it is now just a noise that she makes all the time ;)) so leaving her actually is better for her sleep routine. My rule is if she is crying in need to get up, if not, it is probably just her making noises, she crys if she needs me. It is quite disturbing of sleep to start with, but i find that i get off to sleep really well if i wake for her nises and then she doesnt cry, i just go off quickly!
Sometimes she does a cry, i get up put the wheat bag on, go to the toilet and then get the wheat bag out of the mirowave (this takes 3 mins tops) and she is back to sleep already!!! so i just go back to bed.
The other thing is, the down side to her really long sleeps is that she needs about 2-3 feeds between 5 and 8.30pm... it doesnt bother me at all (i would rather the sleep:lol:), but this may not be something that you want to do... but it is the cluster feeding that gets her through..
HTH :)
BBL

SJ Paddy does the same thing. He sleeps from about 9pm till 5.30 but will cluster feed in the morning and in the evening. I've been training everyone in the family not to go in on the first cry because often he's not awake and will sleep for another hour. The other morning I put him in his cot (he still sleeps in his hammock) to play safely while I got ready for basketball and he went off to sleep. Hopefully he'll start self settling during the day because atm I can't put him to bed unless he's asleep.

Will does that whole noise thing too and you should see me in bed with a teddy laying across my ear and the other on the pillow until he puts himself back to sleep. I am like SJ I dont go unless he is crying now and he is getting better at self settling and he is sleeping less during the day and going to bed at 9 ish waking up at 2 for a feed.( booby and bottle)and sleeping then till 7 which has been great for us all.
He is really laughing hard now especially when his grandma and grandpa come around becasue they laugh hysterically at him too to the point tears run down their faces its a crack up.
Hey havent heard from Danii in abit or have all missed a post hope all is well with her and jazz and I know they are in the othe group but I Hope jo and caitlin are doing well to.
I have so much washing today *L* and I am sitting here instead. I bought some really cute stripey pants and tops for WIll the first of his really bold colours and he looks o cute in them reds and blues. Becasue he is chanign so much he isnt so babyish anymore so I have relented and bought some bigger boy clothes *L*

Hi Everyone,

I haven't been on for so long. I can't believe we got booted out of a thread that we were in first. I know you guys all said you didn't take offence but I do!

We are doing well at this end, just really busy and finding it hard to get online to see how you all are doing.

Caitlin is getting weighed tomorrow, I am guessing she will be around the 5kg mark so we will see how close I am in my guess. She also has her next lot of immunisations on Friday so that should be fun - not. I can't believe that she will be 4 months old tomorrow. Time is going so fast it is scary.

I have now stopped expressing milk for Caitlin, it has been a week and she is spewing a lot less and her poos have firmed up but still stink really badly!

If you are all at home on Friday morning, check out the morning show on channel 7 from 9am. One of the girls in my mothers group is getting married on it! She is so down to earth and deserving, we can't wait to see it!

Caught up with SJ earlier this month, it was great, we talked for hours and the girls were so well behaved! Molly Jane is sooo cute and is doing really well and SJ is a great mum, really relaxed.

Prama - Your trip must be coming up soon, what date are you off and how long will you be away for?

Bron - How are you feeling these days? I hope Will is doing well and bringing you much joy! I hope that your milk picks up again. I know that it would be better to make the decision to stop BF'ing yourself rather than have to stop.

Shell - I hope being on your own goes well, will this be the first time you have been home alone since DJ was born? Glad to hear that he slept well and you got a nice chunk of sleep!

SJ - Good work on being organised today, I am having a pretty good one also although now I have been distracted by the computer!

Where has Trina gone for her holiday?

Teachmum - Glad you are enjoying the BF thing, it was something I was never going to be comfortable with.

We have a pretty good routine with Caitlin these days - it goes something like this -
Wakes between 7 & 8 am - Feeds and goes straight back to sleep.
Wakes 3 hours after feed so usually around 11am feeds and is awake for an hour to hr 1/2 back to sleep
Wakes for feed around 3.00pm
Cat naps until next feed at around 7.00pm
will have a 2 hr sleep sometime after 7pm before 11pm. rest of time is bath / play time.
11pm final feed to bed within 45 mins until morning feed and it all starts again!

Well that is long enough for now, will try and get on more regularly to keep up with everyone!

Jo xx

YAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYY
Poopy's passport arrived today! im ssoo relieved! now we just have to pack and get ready to go!
i have to make a big list of things to pack, esp carryon luggage - infacol, baby panadol, little fess, loads of nappies, change of clothing, toys, books. sigh!

Jo i was just thinking of you today as i was drivign back from exercise class! Was thinking of you and was also wondering how Lisa is going.
so glad Caitlin is doing well! Hooray!
We're off to Kuala Lumpur, we leave june 14th. Steve comes back on the 25th but poopy and i will be with my parents till aug 16th.


Shell - how did you go at the osteopath? it was a nice lunch! poopy slept all the way back, i was soo relieved.

SJ gee - i hope the 'virus' doesnt destroy her delicate body.well done w the house work!

bron so cute with the laugh!!

teach how did you find your first bf experience? was it easy? im thinking the next time might be better cos now i know what to expect and boobs and nipples have been well baby-handled!

poopy makes noises at night, but less now, i think cos he's older. and he does sleepy-weepies. i wait and see if his eyes are open. often i think he must be having a bad dream or soemthing.
i feed him only when i see him rooting towards his sheets and starts to cry a little im asleep but gettting hungry cry.

finally made a cup of tea,when poopy fell asleep. of cos now that i sat down with it, he;s awake! lucky dh just got home

Hi girls,

Went to osteopath today and the base of DJ's skull is all twisted (due to birth trauma) which explains everything!!! the osteo said it would explain why he has been so unsettled, not sucking properly, excessive wind and disturbed sleep etc omg what a relief. I knew there was something not quite right, always had a gut instinct - mothers intuition i suppose. He did some gentle work on his neck and back, and I go back with him again next week. My back was all twisted as well, which didn't surprise me. Hoping DJ will get a good night sleep tonight. He is asleep at the moment, so will probably wake around 7'ish and I will bath him etc .

Prama - yeah it was nice to catch-up after class. I couldn't stop thinking about that coffee in class, especially during those step-ups haha My legs are soooo sore DJ was a little unsettled after the osteopath apt but seems fine now, he was just overtired, didn't sleep much today. So glad Poopy slept on the way home, what a relief ;)

SJ - yeah normally I leave him with his grizzling and only pick him up when he is crying. Hoping he will get a good sleep tonight :) Great job on the washing, it feels great to get washing done,

Jo - Doni has been away before but this is the first full week he is away. So happy to hear Caitlin is doing so well, and she is not throwing up as much etc so does that mean the reflux is settling down?

Well girls, I am going to reax and enjoy the time that DJ is asleep, so take care. I might check-in a bit later.

Shell xxx

oh shell! glad he knows what's wrong with dj. you are so clever, mother's intuition indeed. i really hope he sleeps well tonight. plus with poopy sleep dust. haha


jo - i wasnt reallly offended with the other thread, dont really care about the separate threads, but was a bit annoyed. they could have told us about it first.

jade - how are you, hun. hope all is going ok with your little ones.

lisa - how are you going?

Prama - yeah I was so relieved to know that I was right in knowing something was wrong. He is really unsettled tonight but he is also overtired, hopefully he will get a good sleep especially with Poopy's sleep dust ;) I also tried a different position when breastfeeding him and he lasted longer - the football grip. I used to do that when I first started breastfeeding and he latched on better so I think I will try to do that - just have to make sure I have my pillows to support my back when doing that one...... He still only fed for 10 mins but at least he was latched on practically the whole time :) Not sure how long he will sleep for but I will head to bed in the next half hour so I can get some rest. Hope you have good night as well :) DJ did another big poo and as I was changing his bum it was still coming out haha too funny.

LOL - poopy did a big stinky poo too. as usual he did right after i put the nappies in the wash.
im buggered. got home and fed him, then went to the PO and woolies. sat down for a cuppa, and then he woke up.. typical.
made an early dinner, i was so hungry. poopy's asleep now. so im relaxing and watching project runway.
will give a bath when he wakes up, then feed and sleep.. story of our lives!

glad the football hold worked. i tried it once w the b!tchy mw, that and the lying down one.. not interested in going back there.

Morning...
Got to be quick as others group is at my house today! lucky we cleaned the house on the weekend...

I was thinking about Lisa the other day too... she seemed to have everything down pat though, so she is probably just enjoying here bubs - and so she should after the ordeal she went through pre birth!!!

Jo, was going to send you a text this week, want to catch up again on this friday or maybe the one after? would be great to see you again and waste a day chatting! Hope Caitlin hits that 5Kg mark! i have been off with all my guesses on MJ lol

Shell glad you know what the problem is now :)

DH came home with a pressie for me yesterday... we had been talking about getting a gym membership so that i could loose some of the flab, but so hard with MJ... so he came home with a Wii and the wii fit! this way i can chart my progress and i can do it when MJ sleeps in the comfort f my own home! wooo hoo.

Anyway, gotta fly Hi to everyone else that i didnt mention :) hope you are all doing well
BBL

how bizarre.. i saw sj's post come in but cant see it.
maybe if i post this, it will appear...
off to our last mothers grp!

Hi all. Its been a couple of days since I was on here. I've decided to spend less time on the computer and more time doing housework as I'm finding it quite rewarding...never used to, must be the change coz I'm a mother now!

Jazz had her dedication service at church on Sunday then we had family back for lunch. All went well.

I've started doing Avon so I'm off to do ny firs catelogue drop after I've fed Jazz.

She's starting to have naps in the afternoon. I let her sleep for 1-2 hours and then wake her up so she doesn't sleep too much in the day. I'm finding she does sleep for 1-2 hours less at night though, but at least she's calmer in that 5-7pm slot when apparently just about every child of any age is at their worst.

Gotta go feed her now so we can go out.

Morning girls,

Arghhhh sooooo exhausted, Doni only been gone 2 nights and I am wrecked.... haha DJ did the same sleep routine last night.... .slept from 9 til 2:30, then woke up again at 5:30, then again at 6:30, then just grizzled from then til I got out of bed..... I am soooooo glad my mum is coming over tonight to give me a break. He is now sitting in his bouncer with hiccups so at least I know he is full and content in his belly :) phewwww

SJ - what a great present!!! I saw that advertised it looked great. Let me know what its like :)

Prama - have fun at mothers group today. I have mine tomorrow and looking forward to it. They are discussing solid foods and dental care tomorrow. Oh and my legs are absolutely killing me today from the class yesterday!!! How are yours?

Danni - glad the dedication service went well for Jazz, do you have any piccies?

Well I am going to make myself another cuppa, the coffee I just drank didn't wake me up arghhhhh

Roll on 4:45 for when my mum arrives :)

Shell xxxx

Prama - That is a great amount of time with your mum, you must be really looking forward to it.

Shell - good to hear that you have sorted out what is wrong with DJ, a little bit of work by the osteo and he will be a different bub.

SJ can't do this friday (Injection day & friends TV wedding!) but I am up for Friday next week though! How cool is the Wii Fit! Caitlin gave it to me for mothers day and it is so much fun! I love the hoola hooping and ski jumping! I am not very good at the balance tests! I have really wobbly ankles! Have fun at mothers group.

Will jump back online once I have been to health centre with measurement update!

Jo.

I'll have to get the 2 pics of the dedication service from my mum.

Just went for an hour long walk to do my Avon drop. Jazz did not like it at all. During the cooler weather I think I'll leave her in the car while I do a few houses, then drive a bit further up the road & do a few more houses. That should make it quicker hopefully.

Hi, I haven't been on for a while & noone probably remembers me, but I was due to have my little boy on March 6 or 10.

Well little Jesse Andrew was born March 8 weighing 8 pound 7 1/2 ounces after only 5 hours of labour. ( my other 2 were 18 & 30 hours). He's a perfect baby most of the time.

Congrats to everyone on all your beautiful babies!!

bjrose!!!!!!!!!!!1
of cos we remember you!!
been thinking of you. congrats!!
bbl.. poopy smells poopy!!

BJ congrats, i rememebr you!!!! you were one of the ones that dropped off and i assumed that everything was going well and you didnt have time for us anymore ;) he he

Danni, glad the ceremny went well

Jo - next friday it is - same place? what times good with you, im good any time... havent really done much on the fit yet as only got it last night and the wii, so we played bowling last nigh. I hated it when my body shape change when i was weighed - although my wii age is 25! (im 29)

Girls just left from mothers group, there are 2 that i am really friendly with, but the others are nice too - there is only 6 in our group thou so its quite small...

Off to play on the fit for a bit!

BJ congrats, i rememebr you!!!! you were one of the ones that dropped off and i assumed that everything was going well and you didnt have time for us anymore ;) he he

Danni, glad the ceremny went well

Jo - next friday it is - same place? what times good with you, im good any time... havent really done much on the fit yet as only got it last night and the wii, so we played bowling last nigh. I hated it when my body shape change when i was weighed - although my wii age is 25! (im 29)

Girls just left from mothers group, there are 2 that i am really friendly with, but the others are nice too - there is only 6 in our group thou so its quite small...

Off to play on the fit for a bit!

SJ - Same place sounds great, let's say 10.30ish? That should fit in around Caitlin's usual feeds, is that OK for Molly Jane?

So I was close on the weight thing for Caitlin, she is 4.9kg's (10lb 13oz), 56cm's long and 38.5 head circ. That is a weight gain of 810g in the last month so cannot complain. The exciting thing now is she is finally on the percentile curve based on her birth date. She is 6th percentile for weight, 3rd percentile for head circ but not yet on the curve for length.

BJ - Congrats on the safe and quick arrival of your baby boy!

Prama hearing you on the poopy smell. Was at the bank this morning and Caitlin decided to do a nice one while we were in the line so I had to change her in the back of the car because I didn't want to put her in the car seat and have it ooze up her back! Fun and games!

SJ - you have got me feeling active, going to jump on the wii and do today's body test!

Danni dont mean to sound alarmist but it is against the law and very dangerous to leave your baby in the car un attended. You could be reported and face a fine of up to $25,000 and possibly loose Jazz. Never at any time is it safe to leave a baby in the car cooler weather or not.
Please please dont this!!!!!.
I have first hand witnesed a report done on a family for leaving their child in the car and it was not pretty and as part of my job at work and duty of care it is mandatory to report any such thing but anybody can and do report to Docs.

BJ congrats its great to see you on here again hope all is well.