i'll try water, can you give it any time or before a feed?
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i'll try water, can you give it any time or before a feed?
Hi girls, I keep meaning to introduce myself here, just waiting for things to settle at home so I can take my time!
I just wanted to pop in and say quickly to Lisa that my Jake is only 9 days old and right from around day 3 I gave him Infacol as we had some terrible windy days while milk was coming in. It does say to check with your GP so if you are worried but still want to try it just check with your GP first. It worked for us! :)
Anyway I must go while the house is quiet, will pop in and introduce myself a bit better when I feel more organised and have more time. Look forward to getting to know you all!
xxx
Finally had the chance to stick in a new birthday ticker with a pic..
Welcome Bec, and anyone else i've missed over the past few days. Wow its been absolutely crazy hectic...
I'm sorry i've lost track of some of the posts so i don't have a clear picture of whats going on with everyone.
Prama, you're having such a tough time hun :hug: I realy feel for you. Just remember, like it says in your signature 'From little things big things grow'
SJ, it sure is a juggling act! i've just gotta keep reminding myself that things will get better. THe hardest part of it all is that when DH is at work i have no chance of a nap during the day when Ryan's asleep. I have to get all my sleep over night, which is of course really hard during the day if i haven't slept enough its extremely hard to cope. I've actually been wondering if i have postnatal depression but really i think its all sleep related. I can go for a week maybe a little more with not much sleep but further then that and i turn into an absolute monster.
Trina, i really feel for you aswell hun with your DH gone. I know i could not do it without mine around, you're so brave to cope so well!
How on earth do you girls get your little ones to sleep in a cot?? none of mine did until they were at least 6 months, they were all in either a pram or rocker permanently so we could rock them to sleep.
As hard as it is with Ryan awake so much, he gives his rewards aswell. We've had quite a few smiles out of him, and they're those gorgeous big open-mouthed grins too.
I've been watching so many movies during the day for something to do since i have no hands free generally all day. Lots of girly movies... i've seen just about every Jane Austen remake there is i think... ooh, also just got into a new TV series 'The Tudors' dunno if anyone else's heard of it. I think it might only be on foxtel at the moment, not sure, but its out on DVD anyway and i've become quite addicted to it.
I don't know Jade....I've always put him into his cot and he's gone to sleep
Jade can you see someone to help you with ideas to settle him? I went to a day stay centre with Paige as she was impossible to settle, I would have to rock her or hold her all the time and so she couldn't fall asleep without it so it was a bad cycle they helped alot but she still woke up several times a night for over a year. I know how hard it is with other kids, adds so much more pressure and stress. If you are feeling like it is too much maybe you should talk to someone about it just to rule out post natal depression hun. Big hugs to you :hug:
Summer is in a cot now and she is pretty good, she is a little unsettled in the last few days so wants more cuddles but when i put her down, she likes to be on her side and i just pat her butt or stroke her head until she relaxes and closes her eyes which is never longer than a couple of mins. I have put a couple of towels down one end of the cot so she is a little elevated too. And Ryan is soo cute love the pic xox
I haven't been able to do much today, Summer wasn't too happy and when she finally went to sleep i had to wake her up an hour later to pick the girls up and then again to do the rounds for music lessons so by the time dinner time rolled up she was very cranky and overtired, seems to happen every afternoon now the witching hour and she just wants booby and the girls are starving and going crazy ARRRGGGHHHHH! I get a headache every afternoon now......
Im off to the couch while all kids are in bed xo
Hey ladies. Beware of long sob story below. Felt I needed to vent.
Prama, On the infacol topic, I gave DD1 infacol from 2 weeks to help ease the pain. GP gave aok. Also just a side note, From what I have been told, its not advisable to give a newborn water, especially if they are not feeding well. It messes with their appetite and feeding patterns. For wind try lying him face down on your knee or arm with head to side and rub their back. It works wonders for both my little munchkins. Gravity helps get it out. I had the same trouble too with DD2. She is wanting to snuggle rather then sleep in her bassinette. Which makes her snack feed. So what I do is express milk and bottle feed her to know she is taking a good 60mls at least. Then I put her down cuddling a rolled up towel on her side. I prop her up pretty good on her side, and she feels like she is cuddling and goes right to sleep. I know the whole sleep on back thing for SIDS is important, but my mother did it with all four of us, and it has worked a treat for both my littles. If they do bring anything up in their sleep, at least they are on their side (propped up so they can't go on tummys) and won't choke. Just my suggestion. HTH. It is such fun isn't it?
I ate DH's choc prune brownies the other day and I found it gave DD1 the runs through my breastmilk!! Poor little love. And ahhh such dramas with family stuff atm. My mum is up here helping me until Monday. She had a go at DH for not helping bring in the shopping last night and it just snowballed from there. He did not like being told off in his own house. Male ego blah blah blah. Then this morning my mum apologised in her own thorny way, by saying " I am sorry about last night....it's just I am used to my husband being considerate. He is my knight in shining armour." I watched in horror as his face twisted with rage. I asked him to let it go, thoroughly annoyed that my mum had to go and tack her little unwelcome snidiness on the end of that awful apology. Of course then, he asked her to leave and not come back. He also said that he would pay her $1000 for her help so far. He took off to pull the money out. In the meantime I am balling my eyes out, and telling my mum not to go. I sent her over to my brothers house across the road so we could have world war III. I explained that as insulting as my mum was to him, he should be more tolerant, as she was here helping me. He had no right to boot her out, as this is OUR house not his.Also of course he was so rude in attempting to pay my mum off like some slave for hire.
His mother says awful things to me and he never defends my line, nor do I react the way he did. I keep quiet in order to keep the peace and harmony and consider his feelings.
Argh. So he is staying away until mum goes on Monday. He realised that he should put his feelings aside so that I could the support I need for just these few days. But Man am I angry and tired from the days events. He has gone away, but now I am copping mum going on and on about how awful he is and how I should've married that guy I was seeing 6 years ago!!! :wall:
Has anyone else ever had these dramas?? I hate being stuck in the middle of all this BS.:( What a time for this to happen.
Hi all,
Wow ... there's so many in this thread! You must excuse me if I don't do personals just yet, I'll hold off till I get to know you all better. Thanks for the welcomes that I've received.
Have a question for you ... do any of you have any tips for increasing milk supply? Up until yesterday (wed) morning I was producing milk ok as I could express 80-125ml within 20-30 minutes. Then, I got up yesterday morning and for the past almost 48-hours, I've been struggling to express 60ml in an hour. I'm expressing as Cam gets very stroppy and/or lazy on the breast and he needs to regain the weight he lost after birth.
I absolutely can't work out why my milk supply has decreased :(. I've been expressing approx 7-8 times a day (and have had Cam on the breast where possible). I read where Fenugreek (spell?) tablets can help increase milk supply, so I've been taking those for 24 hours, plus drinking lots of water and milk and eating eggs, cheese, avocado etc (good fats). I've been stressing a bit about it today - had myself a wonderfully self-indulgent sook this afternoon in fact, but I'm lucky that I've got a very supportive DH. I ended up buying formula just to be on the safe side (I don't want to get 'caught' with a hungry babe and a very low milk supply at 3am). I gave Cam a bottle of formula tonight to see how he'd go, and he took it fine. But, I'll keep expressing and trying Cam on the breast at the start of each feed, and hopefully we'll turn the corner soon and my milk will increase. Amazing how BF comes reasonably "easy" for some, and is so incredibly difficult for others. I reckon I'm somewhere in the middle as long as my supply picks up. At least there's hope of getting Cam on the breast full time.
Anyway, any tips about increased milk production would be warmly welcomed. Otherwise, our little man is a delight. He sleeps quite well, although he does suffer a little bit of wind. I've given him gripe water on a couple of occasions, and that does seem to help a bit. I broke two of my "golden rules" within three days of bringing Cam home - he now happily sucks on a dummy and I also bring him into our bed for an hour or two if he's particularly unsettled during the night. So much for my 'no dummy' and 'no sleeping in our bed' policy. I now think 'whatever works and gives us all sleep!". :rolleyes:
From reading through the thread, it seems all our bubs have their own little quirks and habits. I have to admit, when Cam's peaceful in my arms, I could just watch him for hours. Imagine I'm not the only one who feels that way.
Take care all,
Andie
ps: Reenie - I was at mater mothers private hospital. The care that Cam and I received was absolutely excellent and I couldn't recommend it more highly.
Reenie,
Hun, just saw your post. Huge hugs to you. Hope things get better on the homefront, you do not need the stress either one of them is putting on you - especially right now. I've had some similar issues with my DH and my parents, but they're all working on understanding each other a little better and being more tolerant. Good luck.
Andie
Thanks for that AndiE. It helps to have some sympathy :D
Was just going to suggest you give the ABA (Australian breastfeeding association) A call. (03) 9885 0653 It is 24 hour hotline to give support and advice. Either that or see a lactation consultant. I know there are tablets you can get through your GP that increases your milk supply. I can't remember the name of it, but I knew a couple of women that took it and it made all the difference. There can be lots of reasons why your milk supply dropped today. Stress can be a factor. Amongst other things. I would at least chat to your doctor about it and see what they suggest. Also keep pumping to tell your breasts to produce more. I would do it every half an hour to an hour as time permits. It might not be getting much out now but it can make all the difference in 24 hours. HTH xoxox
Sorry ignore this space :) posted twice by accident
Took Jazz to visit everyone at work today. She got passed around and almost spewed on the HR manager.
Also handed in my resignation so apart from being a mum, I'm officially unemployed and it feels nice actually! Matt has decided I can look for work when I'm ready but reminded me that the longer I leave it the longer it will take to pay off some debts. Also he's happy for me to start off working 3 days a week if I want. I'm happy he's so supportive. Gotta go, Jazz just woke up. Matt's trying to sooth her but she may want mumma.
Welcome Andie. My best tip for increasing your milk supply is feed, feed, feed and get enough rest. There are some great tips on the BF forum regarding this. I also found that I could never express much but always had plenty of milk because unlike the bottle their never empty :dance:
SJ regarding the older kids I just have to be organised and wake Patrick if it's close to feeding time when we are going out. Patrick is still getting used to going out. I find he gets unsettled and tends to sleep while he's out and then he's cranky that night. Thank God my kids can get themselves to and from the bus most days. Though I have sat in the school carpark and fed Patrick coz no amount of driving will settle him ;).
Reenie the joys of family ... not. Vent anytime you need to.
Hi Everyone,
Haven't been able to get on for a bit as have been flat out while my parents have been here. I have spent the last 3 days on and off reading all of the posts that I have missed and now can finally post!
Mum flies back to the USA on Sunday so next week will be the first week since Caitlin has been home where I will be on my own which will be interesting. Also Mark has to go to Syndey for Business Tuesday & Wednesday so I will have no time off, fingers crossed that our little miss will behave!
SJ - I went to that class today, it was quite interesting but again it is still someones opinion and not the law! There are a couple of things that I will put into practice (like bathing with bub's facing face down which they apparently find comforting - so long as you don't submerge their face!) but there are also a couple of things that we are currently doing that we will continue to do even though they recommended against them (such as wrapping her when she goes to bed - she sleeps better wrapped so I am going to continue to do it).
Sorry to hear about your DH's uncle and ignore your MIL - geez they can come out with some stupid thoughtless comments sometimes.
Welcome to everyone new - I am sure I will get to know your names soon - FYI - Caitlin was born on Jan 27, 6 weeks early but I was due in March so I am staying in this group as I know the girls and feel more comfy!
Bron - Good to see you are home and able to get back online. William is sooo cute!
Trina - Sorry to hear that DH is going away again - you are amazing, I don't know how you cope so well.
RE - Expressing quantity. I express and bottle feed for all feeds (Caitlin takes 80ml every 4'ish hrs with the occasional 20ml top up in between feeds) and some days I get more milk than others. It all depends on how hydrated and well fed I am so don't get stressed if your milk drops off for a couple of days, just keep drinking lot's of water and eat well and it will pick up again.
Caitlin is due for her 8 week needles tomorrow morning, not really looking forward to it especially when the MHN said that Panadol will be required for the fever that she will most likely get - apparently the 24 hours after the needle could be horrendous!
Mothers group hasn't started for me yet. Apparently it start next Wednesday and I should receive a letter in the mail about it (nothing yet!). I hope it is in the morning as Caitlin has her Paed appt for her 6 week post release from hospital check up on the same day in the afternoon and appt's are hard to get so I can't change it. I am looking forward to seeing what the girls in the group are like.
Still not missing work!
Looking forward to our Cairns holiday at the end of April, I am not planning on taking Caitlin in the sun/water but I want to still dress her for the part but I have not been able to find any rash vests under a size 1. Has anyone ever seen rashies for babies?
Had a hair cut on Tuesday and Caitlin and I had a great time! She slept while the foils were being put in and then woke for a feed while they were processing and then went back to sleep while my hair was being cut and dried! We then drove into the city and met Mark for lunch at Crown. His new job is in the Rialto building so he just had to cross the river to meet us and we didn't have to go right into the city which worked well and it was a nice little excursion.
At the moment Caitlin is really good at being transferred from home - car - pram so long as we don't try to move her too many times close together so I am able to get out and about with her without too much angst which is great for me and for her also.
I think this essay is a bit long now, so will sign off and express before she is due for her next feed - speak to you all soon!
Jo.
P.S. For those of you with an abundent supply of breast milk, I recommend freezing some as when you do have days where your supply drops off a bit, it is a relief to be able to defrost some to tide you over. Medela makes zip lock bags for freezing the milk in and they are really handy and the milk thaws well when needed.
Reenie, oh the joys of family.... never a dull moment eh? :hug:
Danniella, haha take that manager!
well things appear to be beginning to settle somewhat with Ryan at least for now... he slept from midnight last night to 5:30 which was just incredible hehe. He now awake and full of smiles and enjoying a rock in the rocker watching the bar of toys jiggle around.
We're getting our new bedroom suite delivered tomorrow! I can't remember if i told you guys about that before, but its a really nice Baltic Pine bed, dresser and bedside tables. I can't wait, we so need a new bed and i've never had a really nice one before...:dance:
anyways, i'd better go talk to Ryan before he starts getting bored
Woo Hoo Jade on the bedroom suite! :D
Jo - i thought that the class was today :lol lucky i had decided that i couldnt go... thought about it, was going to go, and then reaslised that i wouldnt be able to put the pram back in the car...
Re Cot sleeping, Molly goes down in her cot, sometimes awake (usually the day sleeps) and sometimes asleep. When she is awake, i sometimes have to go back and settle her a few times, its usually wind, so i pick her up, burp her and then put her straight back down... then i stroke her forehead (i dont think that there is a person alive that doesnt like this!!!) or gently tap or rock her tummy. I have to wrap her though, otherwise she only sleeps a little while.
Does anyone else have a noisy baby when sleeping - Molly Jane makes loads of noises and at nght i get up sometimes as i think that she is awake and she is fast asleep.
Is it the wind making her uncomfortable?
Trina how did the water go? when did you give it to her? when she was grizzly or after a feed?
Reenie - that sucks, everyone is under pressure at this time and the last thing you need is people niggling at each other. Luckliy i hve never had to have this happen to me, but both your DH and Mum need to put their differences aside as it will not make it any easier for you or Bubs. i hope it improves for you :hugs:
wow.. and i thought getting 2 kids ready to go out on my own was hard work....
Today was the first day i took all 3 out so that Dylan could go to Kindy for 2 hours haha, was very interesting... pretty tired now but the worst part of the day is over, only got play group now which will be nice because i haven't been in about a month for various reasons and the kids will entertain themselves, also the fact that its not 2 trips hehe
Ryan can be a bit noisy over night too but i think its just him digesting and moving whatever wind he has through. He doesn't seem to have a problem with wind, thankgod, though he does pass quite a bit of wind it doesn't actually seem to bother him. My other two were the same.
I was gonna wait til our new bedroom furniture arrives and is all set up before we try Ryan in the cot as its likely it will be moved and i'd rather not get him settled in the cot only to move it to a different spot in the room which might upset him. On the other hand, its much easier to have him in the pram because with the other kids i can't have the bedroom door open during the day or they'll go in and terrorise him whereas the pram is nice and portable.
He sure seems to be settling better now, i'm actually having more opportunities to put him down for a little while so that i can do things like post on te forums hehe. Bah, i really need a shower but i'm just so tired, physically mostly....
Wow I am soo behind in posting...... I was really stressed the other day and so much so that my milk supply was dropping and it was affecting my milk to DJ. I think he also sensed that I was stressed and was really unsettled. I was starting to feel like a bad mother, because lately I have enjoyed it when my mum or hubby hold him and cuddle him because I felt so exhausted and stressed..... I caught up on some sleep and felt so much better today and more relieved and it has helped. I love him to bits and just enjoy nappy changes and giving him lots of kisses. After his 1am feed this morning I just brought him to bed with me for cuddles and he fell asleep. I just feel so much better. Mum said I will have good and bad days. I think once hubby and my mum go back to work i can get myself into a routine.
Noticing from your posts a lot of you have more awake times with bubs and I don?t have that with DJ. Routine at the moment is to sleep, change nappy, cuddles, feed??. Hubby took him into the shower yesterday and DJ loved it. Doni said that he closed his eyes when the water fell on his face?.. How cute!!!!
I am using a new laptop that hubby bought, very cheap but works ok, just a few frustrating things about it which is making my post take a long time to type?. Argghh
How many of you are expressing milk only bottle feeds? I have been mixing up breastfeeding and also expressed breast milk but find breastfeeding so uncomfortable. He just grizzles for a good 5 mins and then finally I hear the sucking?. I am so tempted to just move to expressed bottled milk and no longer breastfeeding him?.. Just wanted to find out if anyone else is doing this and if it works well for them? The expressed milk I give him is between 80-100ml, I mostly make up 90ml feeds though and not too worried if he doesn?t have it all, as long as he has a good 70ml then I am happy J
Re: cot sleeping - DJ still sleeps in his bassinette/pram in our bedroom but we have also used the cot in some cases but with the snuggle bed which works well. My mum bought us a baby monitor so we can still listen in on him but hubby and I prefer having him close to us so we are keeping him in our room for a while.
Those using Baby Beehind Nappies - started using these on Wednesday night, and they are sooooo much better than disposables!!! DJ seems to like them. Just need hubby to use the liners to make it easier on the cleaning J The magic alls aren?t as good as the fitted nappies, so might end up getting more of these soon. What does everyone else think who have the BBH nappies?? Would like to know other opinions?
Sorry I haven?t time to post today, gotta get dinner started J
I will post personals maybe later tonight ;)
Shell xxx
shell, been using cloth nappies the whole time, moving towards using bbh more now that she is bigger... (werent so good in the first couple og weeks)
yep you need liners, i have flushable ones
magic alls are a good one to have in the nappy bag or for other people to use, i hardly use mine as i have to change way more frequenly.
i am getting another 6 nappies, on order and more covers as sometimes the poo leaks though or they smell so i will have 9 sm covers all up... i wash every second day,i have a good routine now.
sorry bout the rubbish typing, molly is sitting on th desk in front of me with her head resting on my chest!!!
did the bab bonus claim thing online today... my god it took ages!!!
re - wind in tummy and diet - paed said just continue w normal diet, dont worry about certain foods. as for different products like infacol, infants friends, brauer's, there's no one prod that works for all babies, some work better than others so it's a bit of trial and error.
Think I'd better get some sort of wind treatment thing for Jazz, she has a very musical bum!
I'm gonna get some formula when I'm out shopping. I really don't like breastfeeding in public at all. It's fine if there is a proper parents room with a private area for feeding, but otherwise I just don't feel comfortable.
Last night we were over the other side of town, an hour away from home, picking up our new car (woohoo!). We stopped at a KFC near where we got the car, for dinner. Jazz wanted a feed. It was 7pm and I sat in the car feeding her after we had dinner. I didn't get to leave the car park until about 8pm! She was unsettled the whole way home and crying hysterically so I pulled over on the side of the road to settle her 3 times. What should have taken me an hour to get home took me over 3 hours!
So that's it, going to take a bottle with me with either EBM if I have any or just formula so she can have food when she wants it, and I don't have to feel uncomfortable feeding in public!
Will had really bad wind pains all day yesterday and I am putting it down to the cabbage and onion aisan salad I ate as it gave me wind too *L* THe water did the trick nicely and although he hasnt pooed for 3 days ( I paniced but apparenlty it can be very normal) he has farted for England and it smells the same as me.( sorry tmi) I really do feel that what you eat can make adifference to the baby.
I have been overdoing it a little and got a itny ter in my cease scar so have to have more antibiotics to prevent infection. Poor Wil lthe daktarin was jsut starting to clear up his thrush and now I am on the stuff again.
I have been topping Will up with 60 ml formula after feeds a smy supply was low..am excited to say he is now down to every 3rd feed neding a top up and taking more booby. I also found that feeding more often helped with his wind too.
danni I hope you can find a way to fel more comefortable feeding jazz when you are out whatever makes it less stressfull for you both.
HIya to all the new faces on here :-)
sammie I am just about to tackle the online thing..god as if there isnt neough stuff to remember this baby paperwork is over the top.
Got to say I am not fusse don the new hard over baby books. THey are so big and bulky to put in the nappy bag.
SHell hope you are feelingless stressed and more rested. Will loves awake time and often likes ot play and chat for an hour o more after a mornign and night feed I thinki each baby is just different is all am sure DJ will beup for more play soon.
pram hun hop eyou are doing well and Lakshman is feeding better.
My hats off to you girls with other kids at home I dont knwo how you do it..I have trouble getting myself dressed to go out let along Will as well *L*.
Hope its agood weekend for you all I am hoping to get WIll outside for some fresh air today as its alovley day.
Bron xx
We had another unsettled night with DJ arghhhh he has hardly slept all day as well, just been really unsettled and bad case of wind..... We have tried all colicky type holds etc arghhhh I feel like I could just sleep standing up..... My hubby and I have had headaches all day arghhh my mum is due home soon, so she will take over for us, and even offered for Doni to take me out for dinner and she will look after DJ for us, so maybe that is the way to go, but I think I am just way too tired to even get ready to go out..... arghhh hubby suggested getting a hotel room for the night which sounds all too appealing but I don't want to leave mum with DJ when he has been so unsettled......
I have thrush again!!!! Got some canestan yesterday (once daily thingy) and I still have it. I think it is just caused from the stress of settling DJ........ arghhh might have to find some time tomorrow to head out for a bit. It sucks not being able to drive anywhere.....
SJ - thanks for the tip on the nappies, will look at getting more.
Better go
Shell xxx
Just wanted to mention that for Lila, she loves white noise. I used to think it was a bit strange when i went over to my sister in-laws place and heard loud white noise coming from the nursery, but the 1st day we bought Lila home and she started to cry when we were changing her nappy, we turned on the white noise CD and instantly she stopped crying and stared into space!. Yesterday afternoon we had the track on repeat and she slept for 5 hours straight. Coming home from the shops the other day she needed a feed but we were 20 mins from home, she started crying and we put on the cd and she slept all the way home. Really a god send if you need it. :)
The other day Ryan was unsettled and DH started vaccuming and he fell asleep in about 2 minutes, so yeah i can see how white noise would do it!
Took Jazz grocery shopping for the first time (last time we did the shopping she was still in hospital). I fed and changed her before we left and then put her in the baby carrier strapped to my front while we shopped. She went off to sleep!
I forgot to get some of that stuff for wind though. I remembered after I'd put everything on the belt at the checkout so I thought stuff it, I'll pick some up another day.
Am i really dense. What is white noise?
I was thinking the same thing but was too afraid to ask. I'm guessing just from skim reading that maybe it has something to do with continuous noises of household items??????:
If that's the case then our laundry is right next to Jazz's bedroom. Even though currently she sleeps in our room, I do change her nappies in her room. When the washing machine is on she is usually heaps calmer while changing her now that I think of it.
The washing machine is on the wall right next to the change table.
haha glad i am not the only one danni ;)
white noise is monotonous rhythmic sound, so things like vacuum cleaners, dryer etc. help. i found that the electric breast could also help. it's because they are like the rhythmic sounds of blood flowing through the arteries that bub used tohear.
bron - thanks hun. he seems ok. i was quite upset the other day as i mentioned inmy post. laskhman still is in the low weight percentile, so i have continue with his formula. just when i thought my breastmilk as getting better and some feeds he seems satisfied with it. *sigh* im still feeling a bit upset.
i love those pix of will, he looks soooo yummy!!! finger licking good! lol.
hello girls, been reading all posts but havent posted.
motilium is the medication given by GPs to increase breast milk, but there are side effects like bad headaches. i didnt get them, nor did it increase my milk.. dont think it did anything....
How do you know if you're producing enough milk? I had heaps when Jazz was first born but now I don't know if I'm getting enough. She feeds for heaps longer and sucks harder and now wants both boobs for at least 15-20mins each. Including burping, the whole process now takes me over an hour coz she likes upto half an hour break between boobs.
Sorry guys, White noise is the sound that you get on the radio in between stations, or when your tuning in your TV to stations - the sound you get when you see the grey static fuzz on the screen. It works wonders, and they like it LOUD!.
Hi all!
Great news Bron, glad everything is going so well for you both. The wind is a problem here too, everything i eat at the moment gives both me and her wind i am trying to eat well but not winning too much. Summer is a rocket bum sometimes and geez it smells my Mum sais how does such a gorgeous little thing smell so bad hehe.
Prama could it be that from your heritage he is just a smaller baby? I think you mentioned that before it does make sense. I think anyone would be upset and frustrated in your shoes, you are one tough cookie even though it prob doesn't feel like it from our perspective you are doing so well.
Danni, i've had lots of those trips in the past they are not fun at all esp if you do feed them and rush and don't burp them properly. Joys of parenting! Just wait for the spew in the car when they are older or the fighting with siblings, i swear my car is a boxing ring sometimes and everyone is yelling at each other hehehe.
I went to the gym yesterday was told not to do much at all no weights no classes and only light cardio for another 3 weeks so did just that and felt great until the end of the day i was exhausted so must remember not to do too much.
Had another manic day today was getting ready for soccer and got a call saying one of the games had been brought forward and was starting in 15 mins it was mad house trying to get everyone out the door, i was a little annoyed but oh well... So 2 games of soccer then had to drive 45 mins to meet SIL so she could finally meet Summer, had some lunch then stopped in at Mums for a coffee.
I have decided i am going to go down the cloth nappy route, i have already gone through 2 boxes of newborn nappies, how bad is that imagine how many by toilet training. So confusing in the beginning.. Thanx for the info SJ i have a few more Q's for you i'll do tomorrow.
So tired now but the girls want to watch a movie. My house is a mess and it makes me feel horrible as i have to step over crap everywhere so i know what i will be doing tomorrow CLEANING!!
Yeah, white noise is just any background noise that you kind of don't pay attention to, the TV, people talking in a cafe, traffic.
Miss 3 will sleep through anything because we live on a main road and the TV is always on in our house lol.
Daniella - I used to feel a little uncomfortable bf in public but have no problem now. If people have an issue its their problem not mine. I bf Madison today on a bench in the middle of Ingle Farm shops but I'm discreet, I drape a blanket over her so nothing can be seen.
thanks trina - paed said everyone uses the same graph. he also said he could be slow then pickup, and that he shouldnt necessarily be on the lower end of the spectrum cos steve's big. so will see.
who plays soccer? sorry, trina, you've mentioned before but i cant remember who;s the oldest, was it Paige?
Lakshman stinks so bad too. i dont know what in my diet that makes him do stinky rumbles.. sometimes it sounds like a tropical thunderstorm in there!
we're using bbhs at home but disposables when we go out. because he's tiny, his bum looks gigantic with the nappies on.
i went for a swim today, and it felt good, i was surprised how quick i got out of shape. im so tired, i zonked out just now. road to losing weight, im sure i will as mum leaves tomorrow, she;s been feeding me senseless. i'll so miss her.... i hope lakshman will love his mummy lots too, and i can be a good a mother as my mum is..
Well, once again in the past hour I've fed Jazz about 15 mins on each boob TWICE and she still wants more. Maybe I'm not making enough milk to feed 3 hourly. I'm making a couple of bottles up for her tonight. I don't even feel full any more when it's time for her feed. Probably using the nipple shield all the time has affected my production (I've been told that can happen coz the boobs aren't properly stimulated). I do keep trying her without the shield but she just wont attach. I was meant to have a midwife appointment yesterday but I cancelled because at the last minute I had to go to the other side of town to pay a deposit on our new car. She's going to ring me on Monday. I've also got the Child & Youth Health nurse coming out on Monday afternoon. I'll have to ask them all about the milk.
Hey ladies. Still getting used to how busy it is in here compared to belly buddies. Takes me ages to catch up lol. Long Post Warning:
For all of you who are concerned with baby's feeding habits. I took DD2 to docs yesterday just for a check up. Find it helps to clear up any questions. I was actually concerned about her umb. stump but goey and bloody is normal. Phew.
Anyways, I was also concerned because she mucks around with feeding. Sometimes, she has a suck and detaches and then re attaches and basically just mucks around a lot. Then she will feed and want more less then an hour later. She is all over the place too. I don't remember DD1 being this all over the place. Plus DD2 has severe wind. She is non start farty bum!! Even in her sleep. I of course did the normal thing and blamed my diet for her bum screams, and thought i wasn't producing enough milk. However doc allayed my fears and said that all babies muck around like that for the first few weeks, sometimes even up to 2 months. He said it will take them a while to sort themselves out on the breast. 9 times out ten it is NOT the breast milk. As long as they are healthy there is no cause for alarm. Just have to stick it out with them until they work out day and night and start and finish.
DanielaBela- If you want to know baby is getting enough milk, 5-6 soaking wet nappies a day is a good indication. To make sure I am producing well while baby is still settling in is, I express BM and store in fridge for next feed. I pump 60mls per feed which she generally almost finishes. I do it while she sleeps, about half an hour after she goes down. I know this is hard if she is waking up all the time but you can at least get one breast pumped in the time it takes for them to have a nap. Pumping of course has been helping me produce good amounts at regular intervals. Plus I can see how much she is drinking. And I know she is getting the fatty hind milk which is important for weight gain. Word to the wise, Once you start using formula, you will end up giving up on BF all together. Of course it doesn't apply to everyone. But once you see how much easier it is, you tend to go "Blow it, this is better. Baby is happy." And there is nothing wrong with that! But if you are really wanting to BF, try and hang in there because more often then not, its just a transitionary period. Maybe try pumping first to see for yourself to see how much you are producing? It worked a treat for me this time around. I ended up giving up and formula feeding DD1. As soon as I stopped BF she got life threatening allergies and terrible asthma and excema. :( Fingers crossed I can keep it up this time! All well so far. Also feeding in public. I could not agree with you more!! It was another reason I gave up BF with DD1. So this time I bought wonderful things called breast feeding blankets. Made from cotton and specifically designed to hide everything and your baby while you feed. Nursing Blankets, Nursing Covers, Breastfeeding Privacy Nursing Blanket, Breast Feeding Cover Shawl - Easy Feed Breastfeeding Blankets Also I pump now before I go out so I can feed bubs BM on the go. I don't know why I didn't think of that before with DD1. It makes it so much easier. I remember I would be half way through a grocery shop and DD1 would wake up for a feed!! I would have to dump everything and leave it to go and feed her. I have DD1 in the trolley next to DD2 now so I can't do that anymore. I just whip out the bottle and feed DD2. So much easier!!
Will try and get hold of white noise cd. I do like to keep it noisy so she settles better. TV and Music what not. There are days where she just wants to cuddle too!! I got more smiles out of her today. She is so alert for a almost 2 weeker. She actually returned a real smile at me at one week old. I don't believe in the gas smile theory. In my opinion, if they can smile in the womb, then why not after??
Family dramas are dying down, with an awful peak last night. Rang my MIL to see if DH was there hiding out from my mum as he volunteered to leave while my mum was up until Monday to help. She of course wanted to know what was going on and blamed everything on my mother being up. They had a falling out a year ago. Won't bore you all with details. She then went on to tell me to send my mother home and tell her to keep her mouth shut. I only rang up to see where DH was and she gets on the band wagon. I ripped shreds off her. I officially reached boiling point and could hold my tongue no more. My MIL is one of those MIL's that only does things for you to remind you of how wonderful she is as a person, and to make you feel obligated for all the things she does. She brought up totally irrellevant things last night, and made her son out to be golden boy. She attacked my family and totally butt her nose in. It was disgusting and petty. I basically told her to take her own advice and keep her mouth shut. Let DH and I sort it out for ourselves. She thinks she needs to come and in 'fix' everything. Told DH via email what had happened. He then abused her this morning, told her exactly what he thinks of her (and it isn't much, much to her suprise). He also told her he didn't want to have anything to do with her and handed the keys back to their house. (Which was a bit harsh). We live in one of their rental properties, and now we are moving out in the next 2 weeks. Can you believe all of this? From one comment taken the wrong way. Argh. MIL has been messaging me all day playing the victim and forwarded messages from her daughter that tells her shes a queen and a saint. Makes me sick to think about it!! Such BS dramas. I feel like writing a script and sending it into a Spelling Production. Argh These are people with too much money and not enough brain cells to rub together between them. It has been such a draining and depressing week here. I am caught in the middle of my mum and DH's dislike for one another and now this. We now have to move to the other side of town and cut ourselves off for a while just to get some peace and distance. I really love the timing too. No one seems to care that I have just had a baby cut out of me and am trying to recover, physically and emotionally. It has really wiped me out. Sorry for the depressing rant, but it helps to vent. To top it off, Its hindering me being able to relax and enjoy my darling new infant and my toddler. It was also starting to affect my milk supply but I have been pumping even more to keep the milk coming and it seems to be working great so far. Stupid family.
Hope everyone is having a better time then me!! Sorry for the log post. It's been a while!!
Well last night I gave Jazz a bottle for her first feed, the boob for her next and then her 3rd feed I woke Matt up, handed him the bottle and said "your turn" and went back to bed!
Sure with bottles and formula there's washing, sterilising, etc involved but I think I prefer it. Jazz fusses on the boob too much now, and I'm too stressed. I just don't have the energy for BF, I don't like the feel of my nipples being sucked, they are too sensitive and it really just annoys me when they are touched by anything or anyone in anyway.
I don't feel guilty or like I've failed or anything for wanting to give up, I actually feel quite relaxed and happy about it, ok, slightly dissappointed that it's been 3 weeks and I'm wanting to give up already, but mostly I feel ok about it.
I will talk to the midwife about it when I see her this week but I know what she'll say.
Mum is coming over this afternoon, I'll talk to her about it also.
The other things I like about formula feeding is:
1. The milk is always the same, whereas with breastmilk it varies depending on what I've eaten
2. I can monitor exactly how much Jazz takes
3. Matt can feed her and I can have a break
4. She settles quicker and for longer so I guess that means she's actually getting enough. With BF she was starting to not settle coz she was always demanding and she would only stay settled for an hour or 2 instead of 3-4 hours. I guess that's an indicator that I wasn't producing enough.
Sorry for the long post, I just need reassurance that I'm doing what's right for me and my daughter.
Reenie - so sorry for the dramas at home :hugs:
maybe moving out further and into your new place will give you two some peace and quiet. Then you dont feel like you owe MIL anything and she wont have a hold over you.
And yes, thats insensitive, you just had a baby, what you need most now is lots of TLC, not stress. They should know it will affect their grandchild.
Danni - there's a thread of BF and also on FF, you can get some advise there.Also I just noticed she's 3 wks, she might be going thru a growth spurt, she might go back to normal in a few days
white noise! Poopy slept from 11.30, and started grizzly from almost 6. so at 6.30 I woke up and got the nipple shield ready to feed him, got back to the room and turned our little portable heater which is between me and the bassinette, and Poopy when straight back to sleep, no sound at all and started grizzling again at 7.30. hehe i had an extra hrs sleep. it was a good night!
tho he tends to fall asleep during feeds more often now.
he makes all sorts of sounds in his sleep and i get worried so i keep waking up and taking a peek to make sure he's ok.
danni if you are all less stressed and jazz is happy and growing then its right for you.I still top Will up every third feed with 90 ml pf formula and the lc i saw in sydney said if it works then go for it as milk production changes and next week he may not want formula at all.( expressing does not for me at all)I am lucky in that he goe s very easily from both and will also take water for his wind.If you dont enjoy it in any way then you wont produce enough milk and it becomes so hard.Go with your gut and have faith in yourself as a mummy and what feels right for you and your family.You will get varied opinoins but its only yours that counts. I hope it works out for you and you enjoy jazz without the stress.
Bron x
Hi girls, sorry to crash your thread, I am from the bubs born Feb 08 thread. The girls in my thread have been very quiet so I was just looking at what you guys were up to.
I had to reply to Danni-- I had the same thing happen with my DD and I just wanted to say it is totally your deision. Happy Mum = Happy Bub. My DD has been having FF for 4 weeks now and she is very content and sleeping really well compared to unsettled and not sleeping whilst breastfeeding. They do have a growth spurt at around 3 weeks and 6 weeks but I found my supply dropped off because I was so tired and not getting any rest.
I don't feel guilty and I have time to spend with my other two children and run my house whereas I was constatntly feeding and not able to do anything else.
Anyway I totally get where you are:)
Good Luck
Sue