Babies Born May 1-15 2008

laranna - I feel for you with regards to the lack of weight gain. I had this issue when Nina was a baby. She lost over 10% of her birthweight in hospital, then took a good 3 or so weeks to reach her birth weight. I also was told to feed both sides, express, etc etc. But Nina was only a one side feeder, and at the time I couldn't express much. Plus I was a nervous wreck as I was worried I wasn't producing enough. It wasn't until I started to relax about the whole situation and gave it time, that things picked up. Once she reached her birth weight, the weight gain just piled on, and I didn't need to worry about it after that. :hug:

Emily has suddenly 'woken up' now. Nina was 3 weeks old when she suddenly woke up, so I was expecting this. Emily has hardly slept at all today, and been a very cranky girl. I was planning on giving the house a good clean out today while Nina was at daycare, but I only managed to do the floors :rolleyes: aaah well, another day maybe. The mess will still be there tomorrow.

Jodi - oh for a second (or third) pair of hands!! I've survived those long wakeful patches by having Elena in a sling a lot of the time so I can still play with Izzy. I'd tossed up putting Iz into daycare before Elena was born so I'd have at least a day or two with just one baby but didn't do it - didn't want her to think she was being sent away because we had a new baby and because she seemed liek such a tiny baby herself. Now I'm regretting it though! How often does Nina go to daycare?

Laranna - Isabelle was very slow at putting weight on too. Even now she is only in the 20th to 25th percentile. I really wouldn't worry about it too much - wet and pooey nappies are a great indication that Joshua is doing just fine. Where did you give birth? I only ask because I had to go to a lactation consultant last week, and the service that SJOG provides was brilliant.

I'm not having the best day again. My gran passed away last night so its all a bit sad today. I think the girls must be picking up on my mood because they're both quite clingy and grizzly.

laranna- I was also advised to express after each feed to increase my supply and it seemed to help. Although it can exhausting after you have BF for an hour. Hopefully things improve for you.

lulu - I gave birth at Mercy...I am so sorry to hear about your gran :hug:

thanks kristale, it is definitely exhausting when he's feeding every 2 hours. Only gives me an hour before his next feed.

I've managed to express 35 and 20 mls after the last 2 feeds today...have no idea if this is too much or too little and I'm wondering if i should give it to him as a top up, scared to give it to him in a bottle because I don't want him to mess up his suck.

lulu - I'm sorry to hear about your gran. May she RIP.
Nina goes to daycare twice a week. She's been going since she was about 6 months old as I was working part time then, and finished up a few months ago. She loves it, and it's fantastic to have some Nina-free time.
Sorry to hear you've had another awful day. It's hard when you're mourning the death of someone close to you at the same time.

laranna - I think that is a good start, considering your milk supply is still settling down (it takes about 6 weeks before your milk settles down). Just make sure it doesn't drain you too much though. As already mentioned, expressing is extremely exhausting. I expressed full time for 6 weeks when I went back to work when Nina was 6 months old. I was an absolute wreck from doing it though. And a good point you mention about nipple/bottle confusion. Saying all this though, I don't want to scare you off or anything. I know you need to do whatever you can so your little man can gain weight.

Lulu- Sorry to hear about your Gran. My thoughts are with you.

Laranna- Amelie was given bottles of formula since day 4 as my milk hadnt come in and she did not get confused at all. We also continued to give her one bottle of expressed milk a day without any problems. She is now FF but this is not due to attachment problems or confusion. Not saying it wont happen but it didnt with us.

Lulu sorry to hear about your nan. Hugs and thoughts are with you and all your family.. feel free to talk and let it out when ever u need too.

Tyler is doing better now but having bad reflux does anyone else babies having reflux and if so how bad and does anyone having any solutions to carm it down abit.

Lulu so sorry to hear about your Gran :hug: i know how it can totally drain your emotions. I lost both my nans when i wa pregnant with two of my bubs and it hits very hard, evn worse in your case as you have two bubs who need you. I truly feel for you, wish i could offer some help but as i live over this side of the world i can only give you :hug:
It can be hard with two littlies at times hey. I thought i had it easy because i have older ones to help, but the more i think about this the more i think they are worse!!!! I love the time through the day when its just the two littlies and I at home. Least they don't fight! Mitchie absolutely loves Molly, he has taken to carrying one of the girls baby doll around now when Molly is asleep, as he knows he can have cuddles when she is awake but thats it. HE is very gentle which really surprised us, we were expecting him to be the way you described Izzy, with trying to de limb her! I had a bit of a chuckle when i read your post about that! Does Izzy have a doll that she pretends with? Mitchie even puts his (well his sisters) doll in the capsule when Molly gets out of it when we get home!
I hope you are feeling a bit better tomorrow....

Jodi wow at DTD so soon! Unfortunately for my DH i tend to bleed for much longer than you! In fact i still am even now (sorry for TMI). So he hasnt got lucky yet, i swore i would never want it again, but as each day goes by i am starting to get those urges :lol: more and more! Haven't told DH though! Molly seems to be having much more awake time in the last 2 dys also! Alwyas from the 5pm or 6pm feed until her last feed at 9or 10pm then she sleeps well.

Laranna i understand the whole breast bottle confusion, some babies dont seem to convert very well where others have no dramas. But ido know you can get a teat that is supposed to be like a nipple, there are two brands that do them one is Tommee Tippee i think but you will find them in the chemist and even Woolworths, so maybe try that as it would be great for him to have that extra top up and hey no point wasting perfectly good BM! I must say though when i used to do EBM bottle feeds before those teeets came out ( i personally have not tried these teets as yet) i just used nuk teets and the last 3 bubs i have used avent teets when i have expressed so Dh could do a feed or two! Anyway they are some other options that you could try. Good luck and and jsut try not to stress too much like you say Joshua is still weeing and poohing plenty so he is obviously doing ok!

Kristale sounds like the mothers group went well, thats awesome that you will be able to go through the experiences with other mums (well apart from us online of course)! I had a few friends here who had bubs the same age as Mitchie and some more we met through swimming and school and i found it great being able to go through and share those experiences with others who were in the same place as me! I bet you were knackered sounds like you had a huge day, and all before 1pm!!!!

Beckstar how you going? Is DS getting better now? Thats great that DD is a cruisy bub, i find the more you have the better they are. That might be because we are more relaxed the more we have too. Well i am definately NOT letting my DH on here he would be sooo jealous that everyone elses DH are getting it when he isnt!

Shazza sorry to hear about Tyler having reflux, my doc just recommended keeping bub up over shoulder for 20mins after feeds for milk to settle in belly. It seems to be helping with Molly, I know they say to try smaller feeds and jsut give them more frequently. So if he BF just dont allow him to have as long on each side but then reduce his hours to 3hrly if they were 4hrly, or offer one side and then hold bub up for 20mins over shoulder and then offer 2nd side, this is what i do. Hope this of some help. I think Lulus first bub Izzy wa refluxy from memory (is that right Lulu?). Anyway good luck :hug:

Hi to everyone else :hello:

Well as i said earlier Molly has been having more awake time, and i had to take her to docs yesterday as she kept gagging and choking,. I thought it was mucus running down back of her throat but she didnt sounds snuffly. Anyway doc said she may be a bit refluxy as well as a bit of mucus. Well after being at docs she started getting snuffly, although i have found she is not as pukey if i keep her elevated for 20mins after feeds too so maybe a bit of both, not sure but time will tell. Hopefully if she is refluxy we can jsut control it with the elevation time so she doesnt have to have anything else, i much prefer natural methods to any sort of drugs if we can do it that way! Anywya i took her to CHN today to get weighed and apparantly i have a little porky pig!!!!
She is now just over 4.2kg or 9lb4oz and put on 420gms in two weeks! I told CHN that was it i was gonna starve her so she didnt get fat! Lucky i been going to this CHN since my 11yr old was born so she didnt take me seriously! She jsut laughed and said dont you dare i actually had one in today who had been doing that! I was so shocked, although i had a friend who did this also! I dont know how they could deprive their bubbas to be honest! My bubba loves her booby so their aint no depriving her!.
Oh yeah and also last night after her being awake from 6:30pm until 11:30pm feeding at 10:30pm she slept until 6:30pm! So i had my first 8hr gap between feeds! :dance:Woohoo woohoo:dance:, tonight she has done the same playing up all evening, although DH is home tonight so i at least get abreak (he was on night shift last night which made it very difficult) so hopefully she will have another big sleep tonight!! I may be asking too much though .
Ok i have rambled long. Take care and rest when you can :hug:

Just popped in to say that I am sorry to hear about your nan Lulu, sending big :comfort: your way.

shaza - sorry, no advice for you, but hopefully kat's advice will help Tyler.

kat - Molly's weight gain is fantastic. I think Emily is around 5kg now. She was 4.2kg at 11 days, and is such a little piggy too. Loves her booby! She's fitting in 000 size clothing really well now. I'd rather Emily be chubby than skinny. Nina was always long and skinny, and it made things awkward, trying to find clothes to fit etc.

We had a fantastic night last night. She fed and 6pm, then went to sleep. Woke at 2am for a feed, then back to sleep. Then woke at 8am :dance: Nina woke at 8am as well, so I got a nice sleep in. I was up since 4am yesterday morning, so was a little tired last night. And she loves to sleep in her bed, rather than the bouncer or anything. She prefers being wrapped as well. I'm not sure if that will be a bad thing down the track or not, her preferring her bed to sleep. Aaahh well, we'll come to that later I suppose.
Well speak of the devil, she's awake and wants some attention. Have a good day.

sharon - hi sharon, how are things going with you?

Thanks everyone.

Shaza - Izzy had horrible reflux. She screamed all day every day for 15 to 20 hours. Kat's suggestions are good. Keep Tyler upright after a feed for as long as you can. Hard to do at 3am when you're just dying for sleep but the payoff is worth it. Prop the head end of his cot/cradle up so that he is never lying flat. Be VERY careful about what you eat. Dairy is a known contributor to reflux aggravation so its worth cutting dairy out of your diet completely (make sure you get a calcium supplement) and see if it helps him. You can try bringing it back in slowly, but watch for changes. Deep baths are great when he can kick around, but make sure you do it at least 30 minutes after a feed if you can. Chiropractors/osteopaths that specialise in babies can work wonders. I basically carried Izzy around all day either on my shoulder or in a sling and she had all her day sleeps on me. I tried zantac and losec, neither with any success but they have worked for others so take Tyler to see your paed and see what he suggests. Good luck. It is exhausting dealing with a reflux baby and very distressing when they're in pain and you can't do anything.

Hi to everyone else. Will be back later for personals.

Jodi hi, we are going well, Oliver has bad reflux and needs to be medicated for it, but now that it is starting to kick in, he is starting to feed really well again, my Pediatrician called him a piggy though. How are things with you?

Hi ladies, DS had a great night last night, and had a couple of big sleeps (3 hours!) between feeds. However, was a bit paranoid about maybe waking him to feed more since my worries with weight gain and milk supply. But he was back to 2 hourly feeds this afternoon.

Lulu - what sling do you use? I have an ergo but hadn't thought of using it to carry DS around during the day! Mostly once I put him down I try to put my feet up and sleep myself.

Had a friend of mine visit today and she brought lunch so that was nice! Some days I find I don't get to eat lunch until 3pm! I'm on baby time now :)

Sharon - sorry to hear Oliver's reflux is bad enough for medication. Great that he's responding well to it though. Hopefully his little body will develop quickly so he doesn't suffer from it for too long.

Laranna - I have an ergo too. Only recently got it - brilliant aren't they. For Izzy before the ergo I used a ring sling and a baby bjorn, depending on what I was doing. As for the feeding, I really think its ok to let him sleep and just feed on demand. Its not asb if he is danferously small or anything so probably better to let him find his own routine - and he's obviously making up feeds if he goes 2 hourly at times so I wouldn't worry.

Lulu - I now have him in the ergo, he is being grizzly and wants to get at my boob even though his last feed was an hour ago. So I think I am about to take him out.

We were up most of the night last night. DS didn't really want to settle easily so this morning I was in tears. I was feeling so tired and then started thinking it wasn't fair that DP gets to go to work for a break. I wanted a break too! But this morning he settled and slept well so got a couple of hours sleep in between.

I have a question - how do you know when your little one just wants to comfort suck or really wants a feed?

laranna - with the comfort sucking/feeding, it really is hard to work out which one they prefer. What I do with Emily when she's like that, is put her on the boob, see if she wants a feed, she'll either have a drink, or suck, pull off, suck again, then pull off again. When she does this, I know it's just a comfort suck she's after and I offer my little finger instead (she won't take a dummy). But I always offer the boob first. In the later afternoon, she'll cluster feed for about 2 hours, then go to bed.

hi ladies, just wanted to pop in and say hi, sorry i don't have computer during week so sorry for my snobbishness. its great to hear all the bubbas are doing well. i'm not sure who was worried about bubs weight gain i think it was laranna, but i wanted to put this in my maternal health nurse said she wasn't too worried about weight gain if bubs had grown in other areas, ie length and head circumference. i was a bit worried this week as joseph only put on 100 grams after 500 grams the week before, but he had grown 4 cm in length and 2 cm in head circumference since birth, so she was happy with that. hope that helps laranna, also with milk supply she said to increase my protein intake to help increase and better the milk. hope that helps too. otherwise joseph is doing well, as i said earlier he hasn't put on too much weight but has increased his length by 4cm so thats good i guess. the nurse asked whether his dad was lean and tall, my response was not at the moment lol. we are getting 4 hour feeds at night so not complaining. anyone else have a noisy baby? joseph is constantly making noise especially when asleep, such a grunter and a groaner we are constantly in hysterics.
alrighty enough of babbling, hope to be back on next weekend, until then.

thanks jodi...DS seems to have a lot of feeds in the evening too and have been offering my finger when I think he just wants to suck, seems to be doing tthe trick.

klee - thanks for that info...it is encouraging...i am tending not to worry tooo much about it now until he gets weighed on wednesday...

last night we had a great night with feeding and sleeping but tonight not so good...my left boob is blocked up and engorged and i have a blister on my right nipple...so josh is fussing at each feed so they are taking ages and he's wanting it more often so i haven't even had a chance to try and express the left for some relief...he also has a blocked right nostril which is making him unhappy i think.

What an awful and wasted weekend we had!! DH hurt his neck on Thursday, and it didn't start getting better until last night. And he was extremely cranky because of this, and the fact that he couldn't sleep. Emily decided to have a screaming fit on Sat and Sunday nights, where we were up with her till 3am both nights!! We just couldn't settle her. And Nina kept throwing tantrums at DH (probably cause he wouldn't give her ANYTHING she asked him to!).
So finally last night, I told DH to stop arguing with Nina, and to stop saying 'no' to her, which did the trick. I also told him to stop whinging about his flippin neck and the fact that he can't sleep! And he quickly snapped out of his mood ;) And we finally had a good night with Emily last night. phew! I even bought a tin of formula as I ended up with the shakes on Sunday night from feeding her so much. But we didn't have to use it last night, and hopefully we won't have to.

klee - that's great that joseph is growing nicely! Emily isnt' a noisy baby when she sleeps, but she is when she feeds. I get stares all the time when I'm feeding her cause of the noises she makes.

laranna - he'll definitely be fussing during feeds if he has a blocked nose. You can get some nose drops for infants which should help clear the nose. In the meantime, if he isn't draining your breasts, then it's probably best to try and express whenever you can to drain them, otherwise you'll end up with mastitis. I know you don't have time ATM, but whatever chance you've got, grab that opportunity and express. It's really important that the breasts get drained.

With the sling, how much did you pay for the Ergo?

Jodi - sorry to hear about your weekend :hug: but glad you got through it :)
I will have to check out the nose drops but have the health nurse coming round tomorrow so I'll see if she can do anything then. Otherwise I would go to the chemist but I can't get out of the house atm (no driving yet due to c/s). And the weather is too yuk to walk anywhere. Because his nose is blocked he is being such a noisy sleeper and I am paranoid he is going to wake himself up and not settle! But so far so good :)

I managed to express after his feed this morning and he has been asleep since then. I even got a snooze! He's just about ready for another feed so hopefully he will settle after that and I can express again. My lumpy boob is slowly starting to settle down but still feels harder and fuller than it should.

With the ergo, I would have paid $200 for it including the infant insert (that was the price in the shop) but the in-laws bought it for me as a gift.

That's good that you were able to express this morning. I bet you got a lot of relief from it!
The stuff I use for Emily's nose is Nyal Junior Saline nasal drops, with aspirator (or de-gunker as I call it!!). It's great to get all the gunk out of their nostril.
Emily has woken up due to her blocked nose a few times now, I just try and keep her head elevated as much as I can until she's in a deep sleep.
How do you find the Ergo, is it worth the money? I have a Baby Bjorn carrier, but I feel like my back is going to break when I carry Emily in it. I don't know if it's her weight (she's just over 5kg) or the carrier itself that's causing it?

hi mumma's, just me hovering again while I have a spare second.

We've also had a dose of the cold & blocked noses here too. Macey came down with it on sat and had trouble feeding too. I have been rubbing Vicks into her feet of a night and set up the steam vapouriser of a night in her room too. seems to have worked a treat and think we are over the worst of it now.

Had 4week checkup today and shes grown another 350gm in the last 2 weeks so has just hit the 9lb mark.

Night times haven't been too bad sp far. most nights shes going from 11:30pm to 4am and then not again till 9 although by then I've aleady been up for a few hours with 16m DS.

DH is on last few days of holidays so has been nice to have him around to help out with DS- although he seems to spend most of his time tinkering in the shed.

Boobs are starting to feel much better phew...
I think the ergo is worth the money, we used it at the shops on Saturday and it was great. DS went straight to sleep in it and for me it felt really comfy, no pulling down on my shoulders or my back. The waist band sits on your hips and feels really supportive. DS seemed nice and cosy inside.

I'm going to have a steamy shower and have J in the pram in the bathroom hoping the steam will help his nose. Poor bubba, but his sneezes sound so little and cute :)

beckstar - didn't know I could use vicks on him yet...might give that a go too...good to hear on the weight gain, I hope my little man has put on enough weight tomorrow!

Jodi- sorry to hear you had a bad weekend
We also have been struggling with the blocked nose but it seems to be getting better now. I spoke to my CHN and she recommended fes which is a saline nasal spray I used this when I was pregnant and it worked for me so I will try it on Amelie if things dont improve.
Amelie has put on so much weight she is now 3870kg thats nearly 300g in a week. She does love her food!
I am off on a clothes shopping spree on Thursday as I feel like all I have are pregnant clothes now I didnt realise I bought so much to accomodate my growing belly. I cant wait.

Kristale - 300grams is huge!
I sent DP out to the chemist last night to get some Fess and he came back with that and an electric breast pump for me..he thought it would be easier than my manual one! Plus pizza for dinner :)

DS just got weighed by the CHN and he has only put on 70grams in a week :( Now I feel really bad. However, he is feeding regularly, has plenty of wet and pooey nappies and is content most of the time. The CHN rang the lactation consultant for ideas who said that 70-90grams a week for a breastfed baby is quite normal but I should start feeding him every 3 hours including during the night which means waking him up if I have to and I should give him the EBM after each feed as a top up. She also recommended I try Fenugreek tablets. If DS doesn't have any bigger weight gains by the 6 week check then she will write a note for my dr to prescribe me motilium. Argh I feel so bad that my body isn't doing a better job! :wall: I feel like my supply is ok...I don't know what his other measurements are like as they haven't done those since we left hospital. But I guess at least he isn't losing weight, he has consistently put on around 70grams a week so far.

Laranna- I thought as long as they are putting on weight and having the wet nappies that is a good sign? Dont think that your body isnt doing a good job you are obviously providing him with enough for him to put on some weight and be happy. Maybe you should check his other measurements as well just for your peace of mind.
I'm sure the electric pump will make it alot easier for you.

Hi everyone. Been MIA a bit lately. Won't try to do proper personals but have read everything.

Jodi - I've got the ergo too and would absolutely say its worth the money. I also have the BB and the ergo is so much more comfortable its just not funny. At this stage its not too bad with Elena in the BB but Izzy at 13 months is fantastic in the ergo too. Would definitely recommend it. Sorry you had such a crappy weekend.

Laranna - Don't beat yourself up about your milk supply. If you can, have a snuggle day or two with your boy where you hold him close all day and if you can do it skin on skin and just stay in bed or lying on the couch. Nothing like your baby being in constant contact with you to increase your milk supply. And I know you know this, but keep drinking LOTS of water. It really does make a difference.

Beckstar - glad to hear things are going really well in your household.

Had my grandmother's funeral yesterday. Glad to have it over and done with and hopefully finalising her estate won't be a big deal - especially if my git of an uncle can behave himself! Elena gave me my first 6 hour feed break on Monday night. She fed at 11pm and then again at 5.20 am and then still have a 4 hour gap after that. Bliss! Unfortunately last night was back to 2.5 hours so I'm very tired today.

hey been MIA we moved house and it took ages to get the net back, but im back now!

So sorry to hear about your Grandmother Lulu :hug:

will try read through properly later but havent really got much time to myself, Jack doesnt like to be put down he will be sound asleep in my arms and as soon as you put him in his bassinet, rocker, or cot he will wake up. hes in his cot now on his belly (fisrt time ive tried) its the first time hes stayed asleep all day..ive been checking on him like every minute!, i know they dont recommend them to sleep on their belly but im getting nothing done holding him all day plus DD needs me too. he sleeps alright on his back at night in the bassinet but come the daytime and he wont stay alseep!

sorry for the me post will try catch up soon

laranna - Before trying medication to boost your supply, try Aktivite. It's a chocolate drink you buy from the supermarket, which is fantatsic for boosting your supply. It's a bit like milo. You find it next to the Milo, Nesquik etc. But like the others have said, try not to emphasise too much on weight gain. Head circumferance increase, plenty of wet nappies etc are a better indication that bub is getting enough.

I'll be back soon for more personals, dinner is ready and I'm starving.

thanks Jodi, I will have to check the activite out...in the meantime I am taking the fenugreek tablets. We got the tape measure out last night and Joshua has gotten longer and his head circumference has also increased so hopefully it is all good.

Sometimes though I think about giving up the breastfeeding but I won't. The expressing is tiring me out and at night by the time I feed him, change him, burp him and settle him and finally express some, there's not much time left for sleep or anything else for that matter. He seems to get a lot of wind pains and wont settle in the evenings either. Feeling quite drained.

Night time restless is very normal. Or witching hour as it's also called. He'll grow out of it. That's great that his head circumference and length measurements have increased. Expressing is very draining. Will you need to continue to express for much longer?

blanche - Emily is a tummy sleeper. Not much I can do about it, she screams the house down otherwise. Hope the move went ok.

lulu - congrats on the 6 hour break the other night! You would have woken feeling like a new woman. Sorry to hear about your grandmother. I hope it was a lovely service.

Everything going well here. Emily was awake for over 4 hours today, just happy looking around, feeding, pooing. Doing what babies do best! She's now having a bath with her big sister.

Jodi - not sure how long I will continue to express, so far at least until his next check up in a couple of weeks and see how much weight he's put on.

At times it is hard to ever imagine that these stages will pass! My poor boobs needed a break so I have caved and introduced a dummy. I have mixed feelings about it because I feel like I am just giving it to him to keep him quiet where I should just let him satisfy his sucking need on my boob. I am paranoid a dummy will affect his suck and our breastfeeding. At the same time, I feel relieved to be able to put him down for 5 minutes and for him not to cry.

aawwwww, try and give yourself a break honey. :hug: You went this long without a dummy, you should be proud of yourself. They do say that dummy's can affect their sucking etc etc when breastfeeding. But my personal opinion, I think it's ok. Nina had one from about day 3, and she never had problems. I wish Emily would take one at times too. If he is hungry, he will not suck on that dummy, he will continue to scream until he gets fed. If he's happy to suck on it, and is content, then let him be. He might just be a baby who needs to suck.
Just remember you're doing a great job, and the best job you can possibly do. Don't put too much pressure on yourself.

Laranna, I totally agree with jodi's comments too on the dummy thing. Both my babies have had dummies for day 3 as they loved sucking and comforts them when sleeping. It also helps to relax them when trying to geta burp up as the more hey scream the more air thry take in which then makes the wind pains worse.
don't be so hard on yourself, you're doing just as god a job as the rest of us so be proud of your good work so far.
at the inlaws for the weekend so have had no sleep as have had 16mo DS and Macey both sleepingin same room as us so have to get up to every sqeak to keep them quiet so we don't wake the rest of the house.
Can't wait to get back home tomorrow and back into normal routine.
Hope everyones weekends are going well.

:hello: everyone

I know its been ages since i was in here, i just dont seem to find the time to get in as much as i used to!

Beckstar That is the one thing i hate about staying at other peoples places when you have bubs or small kids, you can almost guaruntee that if they are gonna have a bad night it will be while you are at someone elses house. I am the same as you jump up at the slightest noise in the hope that no one else gets woken up. Only problem with that is by the time we get home we are teh ones who are completely knackered! Ihope you have recovered from your weekend at the inlaws.


Laranna concerning the dummy iagree with what the others have said, dont beat yourself up about it. My little girl Molly wouldnt take a dummy when she wa first born, she would just gag no matter what type we tried (we spent a bit of money trying to find one she would suck). Anyway she just wasn't a sucker other than on my boob. Then jsut as of this weekend she had started sucking on her hand so we tried the dummy again and now she will take it! Which i much prefer because i can throw her dummy away, i can't throw her fist or thumb away!.
So if he is happy to suck o n a dummy then i would let him cause like they said if he is hungry he wont be satisfied with that dummy!

Hi to Jodi,Lulu, Blanche,Kristale,Klee, Beth, Shezabelle, Chrissy, Shaza, Mummamel and Mumofsix.
Hope you are all well, and Blanche I hope you are settling into your new house.

As for us, Molly has been a really good bub. She was a bit unsettled for a bit there and they thought she might have reflux but i we have no signs of that now (tahnkfully)! She is sleeping fairly well now most nights we get a min of 6hrs and a max of 8hrs, i am hoping that we willstart to increase now. We are off to CHN tomorrow jsut togt weighed, my CHN didnt want to see me for a month as she had put on just over 1lb in two weeks last visit, but i insisted that i get her weighed again in 2 weeks just for my own records! Although i have no doubt she is doing well, my Gf's all say that my BM has an extra dollop of cream in it as ll my bubbies thrive (get fat) on it! Two of my GF's reckon that they produce skimmilk :lol: as their little ones are really little with no fat..
Sometimes i wish i produced skim milk so that my babies stayed little for a longer period of time, but i guess i should just be happy that they are healthy!
ANyway i shall let you all know how she goes tomorrow. I finally started back doing newsletters for the primary school today, so i guess i must be getting some routine somewhere.
Ok chat soon

Hi everyone. I've been MIA lately too but hope everyone is well.

Elena has been quite unsettled for the past few days so I'm a bit worried she is starting to show signs of the troubles I had with Isabelle - 5 - 6 weeks is when it really jumps up so the timing is spot on. Sooooo hoping that its not. Sleeping for me isn't going as well as I would have liked - back to mainly 4 hour feeds at night so by the time I've fed her, changed her, fed the other side and then settled her I'm not getting much sleep. I'm getting very short tempered and a bit teary over silly things and unfortunately can't catch up during the day because El and Izzy never seem to co-ordinate their sleep times! Hanging out for that magic 3 month period when they all supposedly turn into sleeping angels!!

HI everyone, just popping in quickly again tonight.
Lulu: totally understand about the getting tired business with 2 littlies. My 16mo DS is still not a good sleeper and with DH having been on night shift the last few nights, I am starting to wonder if theres any point trying to get some sleep at night at all. I seem to be up more times than I'm actually asleep. I remember with DS that it was around this 6 week mark that the results of limited sleep over a long period start to creep in (eg; teary, trouble concentrating, general foginess over everything i try to do really!)

I do remember though from last time that somehow it does manage to get better so I'm trrying to stay with it and ride it out as long as I can. Hope you can too.

Quick bub question for the BF babies pls; is your bubs poos regularity slowing right down yet? I don't think that Macey has done any considerable No 2's for at least 4 days now. She doesn't seem to be constipated or suffering from it anyway and still has the ocaasional skiddy in the nappy. Is this too early for them to be slowing down?? Can't remember when this happened with DS. Still having plenty of wet nappies though. Bit scared of how big the next explosion will be when it finally comes!

Now that BB is working better, I can post.

kat - that's great news about Molly's weight gain. I haven't had Emily weighed since she was 11 days old, I really should go and weigh her.

lulu - :hug: it's hard isn't it. What sort of troubles did you go through with Isabella?

beck - Emily poos roughly every 2nd - 3rd day, has since day one. I can't remember when things in that department start slowing down.

As for us, we're going quite well. Except for one small problem ... Emily seems to hate being awake! She is really unsettled while awake, but is still a good sleeper and feeder. I seemed to have tried everything under the sun to comfort her, but nothing is working. How is everyone else's bub, are they like this?

Lulu- Amelie had just started to become unsettled in the last few days aswell. Which was a big shock for us considering how settled she has been. So we havnt had much sleep for the last few nights so hoping it doesnt last. Amelie is close in age to Elena (5 weeks and 1 day) is there something about this age?
I cant really complain though can I when most of you girls have another child to look after aswell atleast I can sleep when she sleeps.
We are going out to show Amelie off to my work mates today having lunch with them all so that should be good except the fact it is freezing.
Jodi- I cant relate to the problem your having with Emily at all Amelie is happy when awake. Hope someone else can be of some help.

Thanks for all the encouraging comments girls. I feel more comfortable about the dummy now and DS isn't even really hooked on it. So I have just been using it as a last resort. Sometimes he seems to have trouble keeping it in his mouth.

He slept for 4 hours straight last night which was nice, went down at 10 and woke up at 2am for a feed, then slept again from 3:30 to 5:30.

Lately he has been a bit fussy during feeds and will wriggle and squirm lots and detach himself but try and latch on frantically again...not sure why this is happening...

must go and feed now...will try for personals next time...hope you are all well