Babies Born May 16th - 31st 2008 #3

just popping in for a quick moment, to let you know - the tooth is out there!!
Sleeping problems are sorting themselves out as I think DS just knew he needed some extra booby to get the little tooth to pop out! Last night he woke twice, and after a little feed he was off to sleep again with no trouble at all, and this morning there's a tooth poking thru the gum. The diarrhea that comes with the teething is annoying, but DS is super-happy still, and has had good sleeps today. I'm feeding him lots today tho, (trying to get him "tanked") so he'll sleep more at night without needing a feed. Maybe...
Discussed all kinds of sleep suggestions at my playgroup this morning, but we're all in the same situation, and trying out everything. Instinct is working well!
OK, gotta go! BBL

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NaNa- you were so excited you posted twice... :ROFL:

seriously thou....:leap: YAY on the tooth and :confetti: :cheer: about bubs settling better... really hope it continues... Think he's the 1st with a tooth????(others correct if i'm wrong)

Sass- never thought of the smoke issue??? My MIL smokes 16mg B&H's... Maybe give her the shew sack while you 2 are eating???? I found DD doesnt get actual food but just the juices.. (i did pumpkin today and she LOVED IT) Made some ice cube trays full of pureed vege's.... Pumpkin 1st for few days worth then added 1 vege (carrot) for few days worth then a 3rd vege (sweet potato)... *wink wink* at the weekend... so we all know now why the drink is necessary...;)

I PM'd Sarah and Juliette and Zander are going well... She's doing reno's with the house so she's been super busy...

Mis_t- just wanted to Say :leap: So happy you have 4 months of peace... enjoy hun...

Abb- My DP used to do up cars also... i put my foot down and we finally one car now... He used to use the same excuse... Its JORDAN's car... :rolleyes: How dare that women say that to you... i would have told her its discrimination... its no difference if you were sitting there eating so why cant bubs have a feed... worst part when its a WOMAN... ARRRGGHHH that irritated the hell out of me... Parent room or not i'll feed my baby when ever and where ever the hell i like... i was shocked the 1st time also.. next time i wont be so shocked and reserved... I'll blast the next person who comment on me BF again...

Morning

Mis tree - thanks, dp bought hamish an elmo chair the other day, kinda thought it could have waited til christmas especially seeing he cant sit up yet. But oh well we dont buy him much.

Sass - Hamish has had no problems with solids except the first few days he was a little constipated then i was told to offer him a little boiled water after the solids and since doing this he has been fine. I only gave him one teaspoon for first few days then increased to one and half after 3 days then to 2 teaspoons after a week. I gave him farex for 2 weeks around lunchtime and hour after a breastfeed, then yesterday i changed and give him his farex mid morning and sweet potato late afternoon.

Na na-great news on the tooth, hopefully you may get some sleep now its finally through, well until the next one comes anyway.lol I bet Aadi looks gorgeous with a little tooth. lol at getting him tanked so he sleeps, but i pretty much use same method, still feed Hamish every 3 hours during day even with solids he is a guts.

Jess - i think i was super shocked as i really didnt think people thought that way anymore let alone a female. Jess on the car thing i have also put my foot down with the car thing, he did have 3 and a motorbike so he has done well keeping it to one project car, and to be honest we make alot of money from them so i cant be that hard on him, but the one we have now is a keeper, bought for only $1000 and have been offered 10 times that and its not even close to fi nished yet.

Ok i will be back later gtg to school this morning with dd to get test results.

OK so i have decided ill wait a month so she is 6 months and then ill only give her a tiny bit to start off with.

OMG i feel so good this morning. i didnt start till 830 because the twins have their skool orientaion today. i got to do eveyrthign this morning with out rushing and get some exercise in without kids hanging off me and wanting to use the wii or treadmill aswell.
i think next yr will be so much easier when i drop my hrs back to 830 all the time.

nana: woo on the tooth. do u think maybe thats y there was so much trouble the last few weeks.

well everyone is here now so i better get going. hope everyone has a good day.

Jess - 'scuse the double post! BB and net was having teething issues as well, I swear!!
yes, I think all the problems we've been having with sleep and the screaming were tooth-related. And to get back to an earlier post, I WISH I had someone who could help out for an hour or two so I could get a nap, but my only family is my mum and she's in QLD. I disowned my dad when DS was 3 days old (long story). All DP's family are overseas, along with most of our friends and social network! We've been back in Melbourne for a couple of years now, but working our butts off, so not a lot of network happening here unfortunately! It's amazing how isolated it can be in a big city! Anyway, we get by.
Last night I gave DS a dreamfeed around 10.30 and he only woke once thru the night. DP actually got up before me and tried to resettle him (I think he was sleepwalking!) but he wouldn't settle so he put him in bed next to me. After a big feed we both fell asleep and everything is back to "normal" it seems. I'm still going to try and cut down this night-time feeding business very soon, though, as there's no real need for it at his age (and size! chubby!) but I'll wait a few days and see how we go with this tooth. There's probably another one coming up real soon! It looks a bit funny with just one!

Sassy- DS is the same with food, carries on and fusses if we eat in front of him. I'm going to try again with the solids soon, but you're right - it can wait till their bodies are better able to handle it. So great that you got that extra hour this morning! It's amazing what you can get done in such a short time when you never usually get it! You wont know yourself when you get that time back to yourself!
Abb - it's amazing, women these days seem so detatched from reality! It's so hard to have a comeback to such ridiculous comments about and behaviour towards breastfeeding, especially when you tend to feel a bit vulnerable, but WTF - are we devolving? Is it too much TV? sheesh... Anyway, hope your DD gets good results on her entrance exam!! Hamish looks sooooo cute!
OK, I'm off to the movies now! Sorry to those I missed - thinking of ya!

well well it is ery quiet in here today. RAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH lol. sorry coudlnt help myself.

jayda is chomping her gums so much, she is chewing on her bottom lip and does really big chewing movements.

wat else.......... SOOOOOOOOOOOO glad it is thursday. i have had such a full on week.

the ceo rang me today to answer a email that i sent and while i was talking i asked abotut he jobs i appiled for. he said that 1 of them i didnt get cause they needed someone that had experience in the pay system thing because the chick has left and everyone else is just filling in which in a pita cause my pay has been late for the last 5 weeks but that is another story and i am getting side track here. umm the other one he will be doing interviews for the end of next week. so hopefully that means i get a interveiw or he would prob of told me then that i didnt get it right?

so bored................

2 more sleeps till out night away cant wait :dance: i just hope jayda be's good.
mum is already complainign that she has a sore back and asked me to vacume for her tomoz so she doesnt hurt it too much for when she looks after jayda. she is so annoyign with bloody guilt trips. if i didnt need the night away so bad i would of told her to shove it.

Hi ladies sorry I have been MIA I have been mega busy with work and organising for our holiday, we leave on saturday and SO much still to organise. I think we will be late nigth packing on friday night as we havent really started yet.
I have exciting news, I got accepting into my nursing course for next year so I am going to be part time student, part time worker and full time mum OMG I am going to be busy but I am looking forward to the challenge.
Liam is going great guns with the solids, we are still on apple cereal, sweet corn and potatoe. He was consitpated for 3 days however he has certainly made up for it now LOL.He has is still having 5 feeds a day however he is having a late one about 11ish and then going thru to 7am which is perfect.

Abb OMG I think I would have decked the shop lady for telling you you couldnt feed there. I HATE people who carry on about BFing in public. I would have told her to check with the cops as it certainly isnt illegal to BF anyway..... Ignorant people really get under my skin.

NaNa I am glad Aadis sleep probs are sorting themselves out.

Sassy I really hope you have a nice night away, you deserve it.

Sorry to those I have missed so much to do with so little time left.
XX

NaNa- :rofl: its ok... you deserve a double post , finally getting some sleep and the news of Aadi's 1st tooth.

Sass- Raaaahhhhh back.. hehe hope your night out goes according to plans ;) I'm sure Jayda will be fine...

Deancey- Glad things are going well still ana :leap: YAY on the news... your going to be one busy mumma... Wish i could find the time to shave my legs let alone study... and work....

Miss- YAY on stanky's tooth also... :confetti: Sounds like its that time for teeth... next it'll be comando crawling and then sitting unassisted. ARRRGGGHHHH where did the time go... my baby girl will be wanting to wear lipstick before i know it... :o

well gtg.. Little miss is already in bed couldnt keep her eyes open...we had a rough night last night DD just didnt want to sleep. But 1 night isnt so bad... hopefully she gets some rest tonight

misstree: jayda is rolling from back to belly has been for prob a month or more now. she can sit but only when she leans forward heaps and she lifts her head heaps tryint o sit but gets to lazy to get further then the head lift lol

Hi All,

Going to be lazy again - not doing personals. It has been a rather exhausting few days here. Cameron has been grumbly again, particularly crying around feed time. Yesterday I gave in a did expressed bottles all day, as I felt he hadn't had good feeds since Tuesday. He always takes the bottles ok. So far today I have I bf, but he has only drained 1 side at each feed, so might do another bottle next feed to. Not sure if he has a cold or possibly getting a tooth. As once again he is drooling big time, rosy cheeks, and gnawing so hard on everything from his fingers, my fingers and anything else he gets his hands on. When he gnaws on my finger I kinda feel a few little hard spots on his gums. But he has also been sneezing a fair bit and doing little coughs. It is so frustrating when they can't tell you whats wrong. It is also frustrating with the weather going from stinking hot to storming to windy to overcast and cold, no wonder we're feeling a little off.

At least he had been sleeping ok for the last week, except for last night, where he woke at 12.45, but I just rewrapped him and he went back to sleep til 6, where he just talks on and off to himself til about 6.45.

I didn't sleep to well last night anyway, as couldn't get my cousin out of my mind, she lost her baby yesterday, she was 13 weeks pregnant. So sad and it was a girl - she has a 3 year old boy, but this was going to be their last attempt at ICSI. They do have 1 frozen, but as this one had chromosome problems, it's highly possible that one could have to and age is against them. She is just reminding herself of how lucky she is to have had her healthy little boy (also via ICSI).

On a more positive note, Cameron's pooping issues seemed to be resolved, so we might try him on the farex this weekend or during next week. He happily licked my banana the other day and wanted the whole thing in his mouth, so he is obviously not concerned with new flavours.

Cameron is rolling from back onto his belly, but only seems to do this in his cot. He half rolls when on the floor, so I think those rollovers were kinda accidents, but he has done it 5 times though. If I get him into position he can roll from belly to back, but I just can't see him doing it himself in the near future. I too am wondering if he will go straight to walking, missing the whole rollover and crawling. I can hold his hands and he can walk across the room, one foot in front of the other, and we have helped him stand by himself, usually for about 5 seconds. He is also constantly trying to sit up, I hold his hands and he pulls himself up. He is always so smiley and proud of himself when he walks, stands or sits up. But he'll probably rollover and crawl when I least expect it!

We will be just lying low this weekend, as Indy is on which makes everywhere a little more hectic. Hope eveyone has a great weekend. Going to have some lunch now before the afternoon challenge of feeding begin.

Bye for now,

Ok well i am going to join in and not do personals as such today being lazy and actually a little grumpy today but thats another thread altogether.
Hamish rolls both ways now and i can put him on one side of lounge room and in 10 mins he is up the other. He rolls everywhere but also does this strange thing on his back, he pushes off the floor with his feet and can manage to move metres away it is really funny to watch. He can also sit for ages but is very bent over, cant wait until he can sit it will make it easier i think as he get sick of laying on the floor although my sis gave us a bouncy thing he sits and plays in it for ages now as he can finally reach the toys around it.
Hamish slept for 3 1/2 hours today, i actually woke him up as he hadnt been fed for 41/2 hours and i wasn't sure what to do as he had already slept an hour this morning. Might be having a growth spurt or something, just hope he sleeps tonight now.
He has only been having 4 breast feeds some days but i don think that is enough what do you girls think?
Congrats on the teeth i think we will have one very soon, hamish has very rosey cheeks and the drooling has increased( if that was possble) also he is always chomping on his fingers.
Have a grat night away sass.
Hope you enjoy your holiday Deancey, and congrats on the nursing, i am going to an information session next week about doing a refresher course as i myself may go back to nursing.
NaNa - cute i know he is just adorable. lol He is such a happy boy too, its getting harder to avoid strangers now as he smiles at everyone. Aadi is gorgeous too, chubby cheeks are so gorgeous, I would have said something to ignorant woman but i was in shock. Dd got excellent results on exam, she qualifys for the excelarated learning program but we are unsure yet if she will do it. alot to discuss.
Mis - yay on the tooth, great news, i hope you have a nice uninterrupted weekend.
Jess - I hope Jordan is ok and you find out wat is causing his rash, hope you get some sleep tonight.
Bec - I was up there couple of years ago when indy was on, it was a nightmare, i would lie low also. Have a great weekend.

Oh well so much for not doing personal.lol

Anyway hi to anyone i may have missed, and i hope everyone has a great weekend.

Well DD is rolling both ways now and is waking up at night crying as she has rolled over.... She pulls herself up with the play matt (the bars that go over) but doesnt quite have the strength to sit up fully, just pulls up like little crunches... hehe... if i prop her up with a pillow she can pull herself up to a sitting position but soon flops over and i dnt think its good for her back to be doing it so i dont allow it i put her back down... she loves standing up but i dont want her to injure herself so i dont do it much... She has just started using her knees while on her belly and she lifts up her bottom hasnt got the hands yet so i think she'll be a crawler... (ds wasnt as soon as he could sit he was pulling himself up on furniture and wlking round it (8 months) Her noises are getting SO cute and funny... she sings and has just started making a BA sound... she watched your mouth for AGES trying to work out how to make new sounds... so fascinated with people these days.

Miss- I'm sure stanky will get there... ias soon as i stopped worrying bout it she started rolling EVERYWHERE...

Sass- have a great night

Bec- Sorry to hear bout your cousin... RIP little one... Glad Cams pooping issies are all fixed (hope you dont mind me typing Cam i know some people dont like shortened versions of their names) ...

Abb- 4 BF seems like not much but is he having 2 sides per feed??? And he's having solids now is it only 1 solid feed a day or 2???

Were still doing 1 solid feed but little miss has gone off it again so i just follow her lead if she wants it then i feed her if not then its just booby... not pushing the issue... I brought a new bottle type thing today and YAY she finally had a few sucks... Its like a teat but looks like a straw... Tommy tippee... (you get 3 teats, a bottle teat, ssippy cup teat and the straw looking one)

better go serve up dinner...

Hi,

Jess - Cam is fine, I call him that occassionally myself, particularly if I'm texting. That was another reason why I wanted to call him Cameron. I wonder if Tiahna's trying to say 'bubba'. That was my younger brother's first word, possibly because I would always say it to him (apparently). Cameron also sings, it can get quite ear piercing, but it's so cute. I sing alot of nursery rhymes to him to, and he seems to concentrate hard on what i'm singing (no matter how bad it sounds)

Abb - I was also wondering if I could do 4 feeds occassionally too. Usually I wake him for a feed about 8pm to do the 5th feed, but wonder if sometimes I could let him sleep (especially if he's had a grumpy day), then if he did wake himself then I would feed him. If he is continuing to put on the weight, is happy and nappy results are fine - I don't see why not. Let me know how you go with and what others think.

Cameron did a rollover from back to belly this arvo, stayed on his belly for about 10seconds, then rolled back over. He did this a couple of times. He was on his playmat/jungle gym thing which has arches (sorry it's hard to explain, hopefully you know what I mean) where he would use his feet to help push back over, so it wasn't totally unaided (don't think I can use this date in his baby books, cause he kinda cheated), but it looks like he is getting the idea.

That's all from me for now,

gee, where have I been? we've been keeping busy, mainly to tire out DS so he'll sleep, but the teething thing is still preventing it somewhat... It's not too bad though. No more night feeds lately, but I have to kick DP to get him to get up and resettle DS quickly and before he starts to wail. He just doesn't have that "mummy hearing" yet!
Aadi's been rolling for a while, but lots more lately. It's always from back to belly, and it's becoming a real challenge to keep track of him. The other day I changed his nappy on the floor at the cinema, looked up over the seat to see Brad Pitt get shot (I know, tragic...) and looked back down and DS is GONE!! He's rolled under the seat and is laughing at the lady sitting behind me! Cheeky kid. Only thing is, he can't quite roll back yet. He's sitting up unassisted quite well, but does start to lean forward after a few minutes or he twists around and falls on his side. He's a real squirmer. I had to do a quick change on the back seat of the car this morning and it was nearly a disaster! Just as I'm trying to stop kiddo's bare bum from sliding onto the floor the parking inspector knocks on the window to tell me the meter's aboout to expire and my phone rings. Like I need the extra challenge in my day! Ha, such fun!
Anyway, it looks like our trip's back on now, and DP and I had 5 needles each this morning (OUCH!!) and got a stack of really evil-smelling insect repellent stuff so DS will be moderately protected from mozzies and Yellow Fever, malaria, whatever... we're not going on safari, or into the jungle or anything, and we're going to a clean, stable country but it just happens to be in the danger-zone for Yellow fever so we have to take extra extra precautions. So now, after we pack all that stuff, and Christmas presents for all the family, it wont leave much space for taking anything else!
OK, after all my babbling I've run out of time for personals so I'll be back later. Hope you're all having a great weekend!

Good evening ladies,

I feel silly coming here, seeing how close you lot are. :doh: But I was wondering, has anyone bought their baby a Baby Walker? I recently purchased a baby walker for the purpose to strength Yasmeenia's leg muscles and standing. Also, I am sick of the same routine every day. Wake up, sitting position while in the pram, tummy time and laying down on her back. So I decided change might be good for her. She doesn't spend more than 10-12 minutes on the walker or sometimes longer; depending on her mood. She thoroughly enjoys herself, playing with toys or talking to me.

Hi Nana,

You are planning a holiday. Where too?

I'm back... finally got DS to sleep, after some serious wrestling. Put him down and everything's fine, then 5 minutes later he's screaming because he's got himself stuck on his tummy and he's turned 180 degrees and has his head stuck under the sheet! I'm worried I'm going to need to get one of those horrible restraint/leash things when he gets older... he just doesn't stop!
Hey Girl - drop in here any time! Yes, I'm planning to go to west Africa in December to visit some of DP's family there. It's the first family gathering with DS, and I'm SO excited about it, but because it's west Africa there's some health risks involved, and it's costing me a fortune to get vaccinated and take all the necessary precautions to avoid us, but especially DS, getting bitten by mosquitoes or getting sick. Most of the medications and vaccines cant be given to babies, and there's lots I can't take while breastfeeding. Really, we should wait till DS is older, but we haven't seen family in years now, and they all want to meet Aadi.
Why can't they live somewhere like Hawaii?? Deancey must be in JetLag City by now... lucky her!

I wouldn't personally get a walker, but it's entirely your choice. I got a Jolly Jumper as there is less risk of falling over (or escaping, like I know DS would!!), and I know a few other ladies here also have them for their babies. I can only advise definitely dont use it for too long at a time and keep both eyes on Yasmeenia, because they can topple over. I know what you mean about the routine...

Sassy - bet you're having a fantastic night! Misbehave!!
Jess - it must be really interesting noticing the differences in your kids' development. Tiahna seems to be very different (from what you've mentioned) to Jordan, so I guess it keeps you on your toes, not knowing what to expect! Did you find out what that rash was? Sorry if you already mentioned it, I can't keep up! I know what you mean about them growing up so fast... I walked past a primary school playground full of kids the other day and had a bit of a reality check - that's going to be our kids before we know it! Hope you're back to long sleeps at night. I got a Pigeon sippy cup like that too, and will try and get DS to take it tomorrow maybe... and try solids again next week!
Mis_tree - YAY! Toothy pegs! Is it just one? Has it gone back down, only to pop up again? That's what happened here, and I thought I was imagining things until DS bit me!! Don't worry about the rolling, just be prepared for it to happen when you least expect it!
Abb - congrats to your DD on such great results! Sounds like Hamish might be teething too, and that could be a reason for the decrease in feeds maybe? Everything seems to go a bit crazy (or is that just me?) and things change, but I hope you get to keep the good sleeping habit!
Bec - so sorry for your cousin's loss. That's heartbreaking. It must be hard not to think about it. But good news that Cameron is doing so well. I'd be putting it in his baby book that he rolled over! That's pretty clever, using the bars. Aadi just wraps his legs around them like some kind of pole dancer and tries to climb up and eat the toys hanging off it!! It's hilarious to see, but a bit disturbing at the same time! Do you think Cameron could give us some singing lessons? The squealing around here is a bit awful... and I only sing to frighten people!
OK, bedtime now. Where did Saturday go??

Thanks your replies Nana and Mis-Tree. Mis-Tree, I too have heard babies who use the walker later walk on their toes. I didn't know your little one has hip problems. I hope he makes a speedy recovery and the problem goes away.

Nana,
Good luck on your holiday when the time comes. Going back the baby walker talk. Besides from the falling over while instead the walker have you decided against having a walker? I am interested in hearing your personal opinion. Yasmeenia doesn't have the strength to push the walker, Lol. She is stuck in one place within those 10 minutes. I practically focused my husband to buy one. I just read an article after posting, how baby walkers delay development (as Mis-Tree said) and for babies to reach their developmental milestones should be left to roll, crawl, and sit to play. So after reading the article I am thinking to place little Yasmeenia in the walker once a week, until she is 8-9 months. Nana, you also said you know other parents who have baby walkers? How old was the baby when they first got one?

I would also like to hear about other mothers who have baby walkers and how their child/ren is doing.

Hi All,

Think I must be a little overtired, as I can't sleep. Plus there is a party behind us, which is kinda not helping. Cameron, my dog and DH don't seem to mind though, they are all snoring there heads off.

Girl- We have a playing station, which is similar to a walker I suppose, but it doesn't move, just spins around- i've seen it in Target, but we were given it from my cousin. I've only put Cameron in there the once so far, as he just can't hold himself up long enough, and i didn't want to damage his back as he leans so far forward. My cousin put her son in it, and he loved it and has no problems, but I would say just limit the use - kinda like everything, use in moderation.

MisTree - Glad Seth behaved himself with you today. It makes going out so much more of a pleasure then a scary adventure when they are so good like that. I know what you mean about the funny and disturbing positions ours babies get themselves into when in their bed. I can't help but giggle when I go in, and that usually makes Cameron giggle and smile to. Many times now I have found Cameron on his tummy and turned 90degrees - he looks so comfy that I think he does it on purpose now (not the accident I thought it might have been), he has done it at every sleep today.

NaNa - Cameron also did that same trick Friday morning, he too had turned around and had his head under the sheet (like he was trying to keep the sunlight out of his eyes). I am thinking about not putting that top sheet on anymore, as he seems to always kick it off or end up the other end of the cot anyway. I would hate for him to have it over his mouth/nose and couldn't breath. Glad the trip is back on for you, my cousin is also off to Africa (I think somewhere in South Africa) for 5 weeks over Xmas, I know how much they are looking forward to it (especially after the pregnancy loss).

Well today we did the usual swimming lesson. Cameron was good today, had had a good 2hr sleep this morning, so wasn't grumpy. Got home, gave him a quick shower then a feed, then put him to bed where he slept for 3hrs. He possibly only woke because I opened the door and walked in to check on him rather loudly, as we had only done 3 feeds at that point, and it was already almost 5pm, this is where I would like to know if 4 feeds would have been enough for today, as I'm sure he would have slept a little longer.

It's so hard fitting in 5 feeds sometimes when he is sleeps so well, as he wakes at 7 (although once again this morning I had to wake him about 7.15 as he was still sound asleep), so they only way we can do 5 feeds if we try to feed every 3 hrs give or take. But sometimes he doesn't want to feed (he is stubborn and only eats when he wants to, definitely not a comfort feeder), and it ends up being 4hrs+ between feeds, which make that wake up feed rather late.

Well getting a little more sleepy now (that TiaMaria and milk has kicked in I think) and it seems like the party behind has gotten a little quieter. Might try to get some sleep - as it is a big day for us tomorrow as we will give the farex a go (it feels like a milestone, my little boy is ready to try solids - i think, where did my newborn go?)

Bye for now,

Thanks Bec. I have noticed Yasmeenia leaning forward a little too much during the first two days. But today was remarkable she was holding herself back. Anyways am definitely limiting her use.

How old is your cousin's baby?

Morning Girls
Gee you were a talkative lot last night.lol
It was very warm here yesterday and i am a little tired this morning, Hamish doesn't sleep well during the day with the heat, although he still slept all night and waking a little earlier this morning at 6am but had a feed and went straight back to sleep and is still sleeping now.
Bec - I dont think 4 feeds is enough either, so i have been making sure i give him the 5th feed all though i think he wouldn't fuss without it, i wouldn't be able to give him anymore than that, as he sleeps so much like Cameron i would have to wake him. Hamish gets weighed tuesday so i will ask mchn what she thinks as we havent been for 5 weeks. We also have one of the play centres (given by my sis), hamish loves his, he can spin himself around now and can reach the toys now, he also leans forward a little bit but i put a towel around him to support him.
Mis Tree - i wouldnt worry about the rolling thing, Hamish has only just started and he wont stop, he went from just virtually laying on the floor and not moving to rolling from one side of the room to the other, friends use to say maybe you should get him checked as he shoudl be doing more than that and then all of a sudden he rolled and rolled and rolled. lol Also my nephew never really rolled he just went from laying to sitting and crawling.
Girl22 - I agree with the other girls about the walker, just put your dd in for limited time as there are alot of reviews on the affects they have on babies backs and alot of accidents from them toppling over. I am sure if you limit the time she spends in it and always keep an eye on her it would be ok.
NaNa - I do think Hamish is teething but as he sleeps alot unless i wake him, i cant possibly fit another feed in, i thought of maybe stopping a solid feed and only giving him the one, but it would not make any difference as he still feeds the same with or without solids, every 3 to 4 hours. You must be getting excited about the trip now, i am sure everything will be fine as you have taken all the precautions possible.
Jess - Hamish has 2 feeds of solids now, farex only around 1 1/2 tsp about an hour after first bf then about 1 1/2 tsp sweet potato mid afternoon. He loves his solids and still feeds every 3 -4 hours so i dont think i could feed him anymore, i have been managing to get a 5th feed in last few days but could never get more than that as he usually sleep 11 to 12 hours a night now, and has 2 big sleeps during the day. Yes he has both sides each feed. I think he is getting enough as he has got so chubby lately.

Hi to everyone else, Sass i hope you had a great night out.

girl 22: dont be silly come in here as much as u want. i have a walker for jayda nad she loves it. i think i have it down a bit too low but it stops her from walking on toes. she gets around so fast in it now. she loves playing with the toys on the front tray and she also stands up fully in it now (y i think i have it too low lol) u just gotta remember to still give them lots of tummy time.

my night out went pretty good. stayed at a nice place had a nice meal, went to the rsl but it was very dead. back to the room by 1030 (WAT A PARTY ANIMAL I AM LOL) then i fell asleep hahahahahahaha had to make it up to Dh this morning but. i felt so bad lol.

Hi All,

We got a bit of a fright this morning, woke up to Cameron talking, looked at my watch thought I'd read it wrong, checked the alarm clock - it said 8.05am. We all had slept in. Usually we are up between 6-7am, no later then 7.15am, so this has put our routine a little out of wack.

Well we did our first farex feeding today. Cameron seemed to like it, opening his mouth for the spoon everytime. It was hard to tell how much he had, as he wore alot of it, but I did see him swallowing. How long did everyone else wait to try it again? I was think of offering some more to him tomorrow morning if he is ok with it today. Would that be ok do you's think? Also how long do you's wait to put them to bed? Cameron was falling asleep in my arms almost straight after, so held him for about 10mins, then put him down.

Girl- my cousin's son is almost 3 years old.

Abb - let me know what your mchn thinks. I feel guilty having such a good sleeping baby - but it does make it hard to do enough feedings though.

I got Cameron weighed the other day. He is now 6.7kg and 64cm, so not a big boy, but still following the same percentile. I didn't think to ask about the feeds (it was rather busy at the baby clinic that day). With our 5 feeds, usually the 2nd one is not such a big feed, generally it'll be only the one side and not very long at that (and he tends to cry a little when I offer it anyway), so sometimes I wonder if that feed could be missed somedays, and the next feed would be brought forward a bit. Especially like today, as he woke late then fed at 8.30, we did the farex about 9.30, then by the time he wakes and has his next feed it will probably be about 12.30, so at that point, with half the day over he'll only have had 2 feeds, was thinking would probably do another about 3.30-4pm, then will still have to wake him about 7-8 for another feed. I think I might have to start setting an alarm again to wake up earlier (about 6-6.30) just so we can try to get in that extra feed. There just arn't enough hours in the day for feeding, sleeping, playing and now solids.

Better go get some housework done.

Bye for now,

Sorry Sass - you posted as I was typing. Glad you had a great night. Where abouts did you go, just realised you too are on the Gold Coast arn't you? Maybe everywhere was a little dead because of the Indy (people either in Surfers or lying low). I have gone out twice at night by myself for a couple of dinners with friends since having Cameron and both times I was home early, one of them I was home by 8.30pm - so sad, nothing like the 4-6am like it was when I was 18 (where did those 10 years go).

bec: yeah i am on the GC aswell. we went down to ballina last night.

WOW you ladies have been chatty... weekends are a bit difficult for mr to get in ad DP b!tches that i'm talking to my other family,,, HAHAHA...

Went to the markets and brought some plants and yesterday we did the garden... Gosh it was hot... My head is sunburnt... (where my part in my hair is) ... need to wear a hat...

Girl22- Dont be silly, we love having you and anyone else popping in... as you can see we are all just blabbers... hehe feel free to pop in as little or as much as you like... I dont have a walker as we have heaps of carpet and i thought DD would hurt herself trying to move it (hard enough to slide the computer chair on the carpet) We have a jolly jumper for the same purpose as to give her a different view of things, also i use the highchair and the swing anything different is good for her.

Bec- I know what you mean about ear pearcing singing... My gosh but SOOOO sute at the same time... she's also started doing this goofy sounding half a$$ed laugh... with like a cough in it... cracks everyone up when she does it... She's laughing like that at people and also when everyone else laughs she does too like she gets the joke... YAY on the farex. Alot of us had constipation issues with farex so just keep an eye on that but i dont see an issue offering it again... DD was 6.05kg's at 4 month needles... she's bigger now (havent weighed her in a while but i'm pretty sure she'll be bigger then cam...

NaNa- still dont know what caused the rash... its gone again now... quite worrying expecially cos its like needle pr!cks all over his face and neck. DD is SO different from DS. He fed every 2 hours morning and night till 4 months then started having bigger day sleeps but still no longer then 2 hours at night. never really made noises except grunts, not really interested or bothered by anyone would go to ANYONE, never crawled early walker. DD seems to love the communication (wonder where she gets that :redface:) very inquisitive, is a mummies girl wont go to anyone, rolls over and moves round (DS did the same) DD has just started lifting her knees while on her tummy like she's going to crawl but cant get the arms going yet.

Miss-YAY on stanky being so good for you... DD actually prefers to be out and about also. Your right about the walking on toes...

I used the walker with ds and it was a real issue... when he did start walking it was on tippy toes and we had to start him with heavier shoes earlier to correct it. The only advice i can give with the walkers is that you have them lower to the ground to bubs is flat footed and not stretching their feet to touch the floor which promotes the tippy toe walking. (dont make it too low that bubs pushes of the ground and lifts up out of the seat either as it can topple the walker over. same with the JJ, have to have them at just the right height. Also with bubs back muscles not fully developed and having them use the muscles early we have been told it can cause curviture of the spin. Having said that i dont see why 10 mins every few days would be too bad. But i have heard numerous people including chiro's, GP, peads, other mums etc warn people off of them. Walking to early can also cause bowed legs and it isnt easily corrected. I use our JJ for about 10 minutes about once a week if that. best thing for bubs back and neck is tummy time.

Abb- i think that with the 2 solids a day plus 4 BF with both sides that it does seem like its enough now... I guess i'm just used to 2 so far that feed and feed... i'm sure that if he's having plenty of wet and dirty nappies then things will be fine... when you get him weight you'll know... DD is only having 1 side a feed and will feed for MAX 15-20 mins but its usually more like 10 mins if that. were doing the ocasional solid feed ( mainly when i think DD is still hungry or is a bit grumpy) SOme days she wants it othersrefuses (just like the bottle :rolleyes:) I'm sure if he wasnt getting enough he's be letting you know... YAY on the awesome sleeping too.. thats great... wish little miss was back to sleeping... she's still waking at night and now wont settle again without that feed. but oh well...

Well best be off, have to do my Wii fit this morning.

mis: not sure by wat u mena how it will effect it. even if u have a doc cert it still counts as a day off. u also still pay as u have contracted that day. you get 42days per yr. it used to be 30days but if u had a cert or a pub hol it didnt count but they have changed it to 42 days no matter wat. there r certain things that u can get extra days for if u had a child with a ongoing illness that needed alot of days at the doc.
Have i confused u yet lol.

i miss my bubby so much. cant wait to go pick her up. after having the night away from her sat night i am all clingy to her lol. she didnt even care that we went.

Hi All ,

MisTree - hope Seth feels better soon. You seem to get a lot of hurdles to jump - but you seem a rather strong person to cope ok with it all. Is that 20mins feeds during the day or night as well? Do you get much sleep?

Sassy - Well that confused me, i even read it 3 times but still didn't get it :confused:. Might be just me though, ain't got the brain like I use to. I understand what you mean about being clingy with Jayda, I was only away from Cameron for a couple of hours when I went out those times and really wanted to wake him for a cuddle when I got home (but fought the urge and just looked at his pictures instead)

Jess - I think Cameron will be tall and skinny (just like his father - minus the beer gut). He was 6pound when born- but who knows now we have started solids he might just absorb it all. He was 6kg at his 4 month needles too though (that was 4weeks before this weigh in).

How long do you think it would be to see the effect of the farex (regarding the constipation issue)? I bought some children's pear juice just in case and I am still taking my metamucil which hopefully will continue to help.

I gave Cameron a little more farex this morning. This time he ate more then he wore. I think we were putting too much on the spoon, its been 15 years since DH fed a baby and my only experience was with a baby alive about 20 years ago! He really loves the spoon going to his mouth though, he starts to smile when he sees it coming, gets excited. I will wait til Wednesday now before offering more.

That's all from me for now,

Bye for now

Hi again... Just thought i'd pop in while i was entering the Maxi bond competition... WOW an advantage to having a famous name :rofl:

Mis- childcare *****s me sometimes. With the place i take DP to i pay if he doesnt go... even if he is sick which REALLY *****s me... even with a Doc certificate. I hope Stanky is ok, do you have a vapouriser??? they work wonders when bubs cant breathe. try the chest rubs also... or if you dont have a vapouriser have a really hot shower and have stank in the bathroom too, the steam will help clear the congestion. Big hugs stank... poor bubbs.

Bec- Wish i had the tall and SKINNY genes... ;) ...with the constipation DD didnt go for 10 days after 2 feeds of farex. i also brought the pear juice but i water it down as it is recommended for 6 months... (its already watered down but i add more) it maked DD fart alot (even though she hardly drinks any) i tried her on apple custard yesterday and the day before. this morning she had a poosplosion.... all up her back on the back of the singlet and through to her pretty tutu onesie. :angry: have it soaking in nappisan now... It was so bad i almost threw up... So if anyone needs bubs to poop try it... worked a little too well thou...

Well I picked up DS's old baby swing from MIL's and DD Loves it 3 days of using it and it makes her fall asleep almost instantly... wish i had of picked it up sooner but i thought MIL sold it at her garage sale. anyways best be off, I'm searching for new plants for our gardens sick of the horid flowers that were in there and the damn skinks that hide in them... i need plants that arent ground cover... :shudder: hate lizards... eeewwweee

jess: i know it sucks having to pay but it stops the carers gettin stuffed around. Your contracting that day so u always have it. if u dont wanna pay u cna always go on a casual contract and u will more then likly have that spot everytime but they have the right to tell u not to come one day.

mis: get one of those nose sucky things that helped jayda so much when she was stuffy and the vaporiser.

off to bed now night night

Mis_t- I BLOODY hate lizards... :hiding: *scratches all over and looks around shuddering* freak me out. The poosplosion i can handle but skinks, snakes, spiders well basically any creepy crawly... YUKKYY

AWWWWEEEE Stanky is SOOO cute... YAY DD's first christmas... Best thing is she'll be a bit older then DS was for his 1st... My DS turns 4 on Nov 16... OMG he'll be in big school the yr after next... :rolleyes:

DD loves her sppons too.. she grbs hold now and tries to help feed herself. She also tries to grab drinks off me also.

Sass- I understand but when it costs me $52 bucks a day its fairly annoying... (he's at a daycare not family daycare. My CCR is like $10 off that. which is why i'm considering not returning to work as i't be 52 for DS and $55 for DD 2 days a week

Also i agree the asperators that suck the stuff out of the nose are good as is the fess for little noses

A vapouriser is an ASSET. The best investment in bubs health that i can think of... VERY HIGHLY RECOMMENDED i guarentee it will be used alot

jess: i think it is slack that the centers do it. i dont see how 1 child out of over 50 makes a dif. I was just saying from the family daycare side of it, because we only have 5 kids it makes a big dif if 1 is away. also i have found u get some slack parents that dont work and book the day but only bring the children when they feel like it, but there is a working parent that really needs that spot. so i think that it helps to stop people abusing the vacant positions. ***i dont think peopel that dont work r slack just the ones that dont use their vancany prop (didnt want anyoen to take it the wrong way)

mis: how is Stanky going any better? also if u get the euky bear rub(sp?) they say to put it on their chest, their back between their shoulder blades and on the bottom of their feet. sounds stupid but i did it with jayda and it helped lots.

Sarah: how is everything going? i think ur too busy in the christmas social group to come in here lol.

omg last ngiht i was awake from like 2 till 430 then feel asleep and DH's alarm woke me at 5 then jayda started stirring. AND i am not even tired. I had the erge to go run on tread mill at 2 in the morning. very very weird lol.:doh:

i have decided now jayda is sleeping through i might get up when Dh goes of a morning and get some exercise in hahahahahahahahahahahahaha nah seriously if i can stop laughign at myself i mgiht get it done.

i have a week off next week. i was thinkin last ngiht i might beabel to try her on food that week. that way if she gets unsettled ill have to time to sort it out. wat does everyone think.

Sass- i can understand FD as it is only few kids. But like you said a BIG centre shouldnt be like that (well at least charge me only 1/2) I'm getting fed up with my centre... My poor DS is still in the 2-3 room and he's almost 4. he's very over active and i think thats why they'd rather keep him there (all they do is play outside, pain and free play... No one seems to want to help him at all... In the process of looking around but the waiting lists here are rediculous. up to 12 months.

I use the chect rubs on the bottom of the feet to... sounds silly but does work.

DP is on night shift s =o i was up til 11.30 (thats late for me) then DP got home at 12.30 get into bed and the dogs started and when he went to have a look we had a turtle on the driveway.... so then DP decided to wake up DS to show him so we didnt get back to bed til 2 :rolleyes: then DD woke up for a feed at 5.15 which was good as she slept from 8.15 i fed her and she slept til 8. still tired but its all good.

Well best be off (for now) have to do some housework, (wish i had a cleaner... hehehe)

Hiya! Just popping in while DS is busy blowing raspberries. It's funny, he stops for a week, then suddenly he's back to doing it constantly. Raspberries are DEFINITELY in season today!!
Mis_tree - Super cute photos! Vaporiser is a great investment, I'm so glad I got one when DS was sick. Can see it will get a lot more use even over summer coz it's soooo dry here! It's good for your skin too. Hope Stanks is feeling better soon. What Sassy said about putting the Euky bear rub on the bottom of the feet - apparently essential oils are absorbed faster there than anywhere else on the body. My mum's an aromatherapist and massage therapist (among other things) and she told me so... all these years, she was right about so many things! lol
Bec - you might be lucky and not have any problems with the Farex and constipation. Spacing the feeds out over a few days might work well. The pear juice will work in much the same way as the sugar in water, as far as I know. I've decided to start DS on vegies this week (when I get a chance!) coz we had a few issues with the Farex, but that might have just been because he has a pretty sensitive digestive system anyway, and he was teething at the same time...
Jess - poosplosions and lizards! And now turtles! wow, what fun! DS tries to grab drinks off me now too, so I gave him a tiny bit of water in the sippy cup (with the teat, tho) and he wanted to hold it all by himself. He didn't actually drink much, more just chewing on it, but it's a huge change from the last time I tried to give him a bottle. I just re-read your first post about childcare... Do you really take DP to childcare? I never thought of doing that... :ROFL:
Sassy - I think if you have a week off, that's a perfect time to try food for Jayda. Plenty of time for observing any changes or whatever. Or just cleaning up the mess! It would probably help if you're both a bit more relaxed than your usual busy week. Honestly, I don't know how you do it! Send some of your excess energy this way, would ya?? And some instructions on how to get bubs to sleep thru?! We're back to 4.5 - 4.5 - 2 hours thru the night. *sigh* small improvement...
Abb & Bec - I was thinking (random, I know!) about how your DS only have maybe 4 feeds a day, but I think if you're giving solids as well, and bubs has both sides at a feed, then that's probably more than what my DS gets. It really shouldn't be a problem IMO. As long as they're happy and healthy, right? I worked out DS has about 6 feeds a day but rarely has both sides. His tummy couldn't take that much and I still have an oversupply/forceful letdown issue. He's only just started easing off with the chucking in the last month, and has wanted to feed a little bit more a few times lately.

OK, off to playgroup. Well, maybe when kiddo wakes up! Raspberries put him to sleep...
Have a great day ladies!

nana: it was a fluke getting her sleeping through. we went to baby clinic and there was a replacement lady there. she was telling us about upping the bottles and cutting some out. we were having 150mls at 330am 8am 11am 2pm 630pm and 830pm. so she said if she wakes through the night to try cut out the 330 bottle. said to comfort her back to sleep and if that fails just give her like 30 mls then settle her. we done that for 3 nights and she has slept through since. now she is having 210mls at 5 to 6am 9am 12, 3pm 5pm 730pm. we also found that if her last bottle if no later then 730 she will sleep though but if we gave it to her at 830 she would wake at 330 dunno y. most nights she only has about 80mls at 730 so she is only having about 5.5bottles a day.

i wanna keep it at the roughly 6 bottles that way when she starts on solids we can cut one bottle out and it wont matter.


soooooooooooo cant wait till my hols next week. the kids r !@#$ing me so bad at the mo. and hopefully i will get a interview for this job which the interveiws r being conducted the week i have off. so it has worked out really well cause i wont have to have the day off to do the interveiw.

has anyone noticed their babies having somethign like a night mare?

NaNa- Boy you should hear DD ATM... Blowing paspberries all day long, with tongue and without... She's soaked, also squeeling while DP is trying to sleep for night shift tonight:rolleyes: I cant find where i put DP about the childcare thing :oops:

DD chews her sippy cup too, she loves hoklding it herself but wears alot more then she drinks (i doubt she even drinks any)

Sass- yay on your holidays... must have missed that bit... i also find if DD is in bed any later then 8 then she wakes up more often at night (maybe its from being overtired??

DD has about 7 feeds and only 1 side. and the occasional solid feed

mis: yay on the roll. :dance: has he done it again.

well i dont have to work tomorrow all the kids r gonna be away. so i get 11 days off in a row :dance:
i am gonna cook up a batch of carrot tonight and start her in the morning.
i will give her 1tsp the first day then slowly give her more. if she gets cranky i am gonna keep givin it to her for the week. if after a week she still isnt right with it ill leave it and wait till she goes to the doc for her needles to see wat is happening.


she is being a bit of a poo at the mo. she wants to be sitting but cant sit prop by herself. but wont sit in the pram for too long. she loves her walker but i cant leave her in it too long. and if she is on the floor she has to have constant attention.

tomorrow i am getting some chrissy stuff to dress jayda up in and gonna do some photos for xmas cards.

Just in here briefly as i have just had the worst night ever. We had to call an ambulance last night as Hamish stopped breathing, he is ok now. We spent most of the night in hospital and i need to still keep a close eye on him so i will be just brief as i have already posted the story in the boo hoo room. Long story short he choked on his own vomit and stopped breathing. He has no permanet damage and seems to be back to normal today. I think i am still in shock and cant believe we nealry lost him, words cant really describe how i feel right now it was so frightening and heart wrenching to see him in so much distress. I will try come back soon for an update.