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Hey Shazz, i tired to join in one of the TTC threads, but they don't seem real keen on a new person and haven't answered any questions. Can I ask you?
I THINK I o'ed on Friday.
After O does the CM all but dry up?
Is it possible to O with no CM?
I've only charted a few days, but my temp keeps going down and down. What does that mean (and it doesn't correlate with the CM)?
Kim I did all this stuff last time when trying to conceive and am a bit vague on it this time and also can't be bothered this time.
I believe thou, off memory that if you temp is dropping, it is the sudden rise that normally means ovulation and you have 12 or so hours to catch the egg. Otherwise all sperm can live for a period of time before this and get there too waiting for the egg. I never got noticable CM in my undies, I always had to go searching IYKWIM. Gross hey, sorry TMI. But I believe once this CM has gone from clear and sticky to cloudy then it is too late. As the clear stuff easily carries the sperm to the egg. Hope that helps.
I might remember more if you ask more questions.
I am just wingin it this time round. I went to so much trouble for 5 mths and it was so disheartening as I put my heart and soul into it. So this time I am in no rush, and it will happen when it happens.
I sometimes wonder if all the temperature taking and charts etc put more pressure on people TTC. I couldn't be bothered doing it... and wouldn't have a clue where to start.
I would just make a note of when the first day of my period was, then worked out ovulation dates (google ovulation calendar) - which is two weeks after the 1st day of AF. And I just tried to DTD around that time. And when I say tried - I mean it. Yariv & I were so knackered, and just couldn't be bothered half the time. We are definately NOT rabbits. Both times I fell pregnant - Yariv has said "When did that happen??".
When you consider my age, being overweight, and that I had one useless ovary the first time, it is a wonder I fell pregnant so easily. But I am 90% sure it's because I didn't try too hard, and I was so relaxed about the whole thing. I just enjoyed DTD... and oila!!
Although I really feel for the women who TTC for years and years. It must be hard to want something so badly. How often do you hear about women who spend a fortune on IVF, then when they stop trying so hard they fall pregnant naturally.
I think stress is the greatest disease of our era.
Oh thanks heaps Sheree, yeah I'm thinking it's a bit too hard and I might just chill for a bit.
Np Kim, but I guess I knew from last time charting when my ovulation date was too! I conceived Lachlan on 2nd September - CD 16. Freakish hey! But I am 99% sure. I am just hoping that my ovulation day is the same CD 16 but if it is not then so be it! I am over stressing about things.
So for us this cycle which I am up to CD18, we DTD Day 13 (Cause I was away CD 12 (which I think from memory last time this is when I started), then every day up to CD17. Now I am buggered hehe. I think off memory too, you are to only to try every alternate day but that is hard if you don't what day you ovulate. My cycles have been anywhere from 26 - 29 days since having Lachlan, but my body was like clockwork prior to having him. 28 days to the day to the hour to the minute. That is how I knew I was pregnant, even thou the stick at the doctors said I wasn't (it came up negative). I didn't feel pregnant, but hey my cycles don't lie either. Silly doctor told me to go home and wait for my period it was obviously late. Grr...... felt like shuvin those sticks up his but!
Atleast this time I know I can have children that was a great fear of mine at that time, so this time I chillin out about it.
When charting for me it was so stressful, and it was only when we were on holidays that we conceived. So how about that, your theory is so true Jodie.
Gosh Jodie you fertile girl, see there is some of us that can do it and some of us that can't. You go girl.
The irony is Sheree... I had been having sex for 22 years - many times unprotected - and never fell pregnant! So I thought I would have great difficulty conceiving. But I really believe it's an emotional thing. I love Yariv so much, and I wanted to have his child. And my life is good. A different guy, a different time - would be a totally different outcome.
I'm getting ready to go to a 2yo birthday party at a play centre. Woohoo!! NOT!
Shaun is asleep - so at least he will be in a good mood when he is let loose at the playcentre.
We got heaps of work done on our house yesterday. Few little things to do - including neatening up the garden (hopefully next weekend, weather permitting)... and we will call in the Real Estate agent.
And I booked MIL flights - and she's staying longer! arrives 21st Nov and leaves 7th Jan now. Yariv is starting to think that she might want to stay even longer! I had a dream last night that she didn't want to return to Israel!
Aghhhh good for you Jodie that is fantastic, so happy you are soooo happy.
Have fun at the party.
Gosh I struggle getting paperwork done with Lachlan around let alone renovating a house, you are a champ!
Is it just me or does everyone else's kids constantly follow them around the house all day and whinge and chuck tanties etc..... I wish I had a video camera, he is an angel is someone else is here. Must be a mum thing. His toys just aren't enuf these days!!!!!
What date is bub due? Are you finding out? It will be good to have help around huh?
Hi girls!!
Wow!! I can't believe we are up to page 3 of a new thread already!!! You girls have been talking up a storm in here.
We are ok. Briley is good. Had a bout of bad nappy rash this weekend though. I think the second top tooth might be on its way.
I am tired. But ok. Everything settled after the laxative left my system. I called the Birth Suite and they told me to stop taking them and to wait until 36 weeks if i am still having major issues with constipation. Fine with me. I suppose cause baby will be almost classed as "full term" by then. I just don't want to force the baby out though. I mean i know i need to go to the toilet but if it means sending me into labour then i think i should just bare with it till i am 40 weeks or at least 39.
Will be back sometime soon for personals.
Hope you are all well.
HI Kim ~ Chin up send me the link to your chart ( if you don't mind of course ) i 'll have a quick look for you it can get quite depressing if things don't happen when you want i know that only to well though charting has some major benefits for a pcos women just my history alone tells you ovulation doesn't always occur on CD 14 on average my O day was CD 18 -21 hang in there
Does my link work Shazz?
yep sure does i'd keep DTD for the next week cover your bases and it will give your chart a chance to get some sort of pattern to it it is a little to early to tell what really is happening :hug:
Has Kim's DH paid you to say that Shazz????? My DH would be over the moon if someone told me that LOL
Haha actually this week he's been complaining about having to 'perform' too much!
Geez that is not like a male, it is more me that has had enough. Wade is luvin it!!!!
What CD are you up to Kim?
aahhh, 12 I think. But I only generally have 21 day cycles. 2 weeks is well after I 'should' get AF so when do I test?
So we should get AF around the same time, or should I say around the same time AF will be a no show hehe. I am not testing till after AF is due. AF is due 4th July, but I will test on 5th July if I can hold out that long. I pretty much know a few days before the 4th of July anyway if she is coming cause I get pre AF pains. But I know you can get pregnancy tests for before AF is due, not sure the time frame before thou.
argh well there you go if you have 21 cycle days it will have to be a adjustment in fertility friend cause if you still O around CD 14 your luteal phase is short which in some cases can be a problem i would highly suggest to chart for the remainder of this cycle all the while giving your selves a good chance ( lol Refer to above post and NO Cam hasn't paid me still waiting on the cheque lol )
AF is due this Sunday so the 1st. I have some tests that reckon they can detect at 7dpo so maybe I'll give one a whirl on Friday....or wait until Sunday if I can bare it. God I can't believe how desperate I'm getting even though i'm trying to chill about it....
ETA our cheque acct's all but dry sorry Shazz :D
Hehe Kim, it happens to the best of us, if you are cd12 today isn't cd21 on 3rd July? Anyway gl.
Vic - god if only Lachlan ate half that variety, fussy kid.
We had a bad day of eating today. What I mentioned yesterday we were lucky to get half into him today! I got a break and he carried on at Daddy for a change...........
All this talk of AF and TTC and O days etc is making me clucky.
But not quite ready yet......
Took over two 1/2 years to 'make' Kaitlyn, so maybe I should start thinking about it.
Wow it all sounds so scientific! I am with Jodie and Vic we just dtd, Riley was my most technical cause I was trying for a boy so I roughly worked out when O would be and waited until there was CM and dtd then (and fell that month)
:doh: course it is Sheree, good thing i can count!
Oh Vic :hug: what does he have instead of a bottle?
lol i envy all you lucky gals for being able to not have to think of such things but out of 3 kids i have 2 clomid babies with charting for over 3 years and last one IVF baby and charted as well just so i knew my body was doing the right thing charting isn't a miracle cure for infertility but more of a tool to help you to were you want to be... ultimately pg
Kim ~ wishing you the very best of luck for when you do decide to test
Vic ~ i wish ryan would give up his bottle but he won't have a bar of a cup just yet
Nah I know Shazz, just nice to have a bit of control IYKWIM?
If I decide to wean, do I need to replace each feed with something? Not real keen to go to a bottle at this stage...
Shazz there are definitely people that have been through sheer hell conceiving, like you. I don't envy what you have been through, must have been hard. Mwah
Kim - yeah I don't think they recommend a bottle at this late stage, probably a sippy cup!
I am getting a bladder infection from all this god dam BD, not happy jam! It is sooo painful! I have the urge to wee constantly and when I go I twickle twickle - feel relief and then I am back to square one again. Use to get these all the time when I was younger, they are soooo painful.
Do you think the doctor would give me antibiotics if I could possibly be pregnant? (well a possibly of trying means possibility of baby - but unlikely hehe)
Sheree: Oh no…..Wasn’t Lachie going good with his eating for a while there? After reading through some of the posts and seeing what Jayden is doing, maybe it’s a bit of a phase with this age group?? Lachie is obviously a bit worse than the others for some reason. Jayden is refusing food then the next day he will eat the same thing and like it or he will eat for Chris and not for me.
Elissa: Archie definitely eats well! You can whinge away all you like. Trust in yourself….If Archie needed a cuddle who would he go to? He’d pick you…..He is alive and well so that makes you a great Mum! Try not to worry what your “friend” says….what makes her such a great Mum and know everything? I have a friend that did the same thing when her baby was born (and before actually hehe) Its all about her and her family…..She knows best because she did it first.
Jodie: I let Jayden have a spoon and feed himself one night. I had already given him his dinner and we were having ours so I chopped it all up for him and let him go for it (not worrying about how much he actually got in his mouth). He did pretty well and had a ball doing it but it was from head to toe and all around….I haven’t done it since because of the mess haha. I can’t believe you are still vomiting! Poor you! It must be a boy haha….The kicking will start soon. My SIL hired a Doppler, they are great! Not sure where she got it from but she is in QLD anyway.
Oops I better get back to work (home for lunch) I’ll finish off personals one of these days!
kim - i agree with jodie about the temping and charting for 13 months i did everything i possibly could to get pg and we were both geting really stressed that it wasn't working so we booked into the fertility place, stopped trying, went out on the grog and what do u know? got a positive test 2 weeks before the fertility appointment. So i say just DTD when you feel like it (which is usually O time as you naturally have the hormones at that time that make you want to DTD) and eventually it'll work. Having said that though i am first month ttc and i am obsessing about every little feeling in my body and wondering if im pg, it ridiculous how crazy we get when ttc!
tania - thank for your kind encouraging words, you are so right! up til i read what other bubs are eating(or not eating) i thought Arch was a bad eater!
vic - it must be hard seeing your baby grow out of all the baby things, there are certainly a lot of positives to it though. Does Adam sit up in a normal chair at the table now?! What a grown up! Probably casue he wants to be big like the other kids im guessing. How are you planning on approaching the whole dummy thing?? Just got rid of Archie's last bottle yesterday and thats fine but he still has to have 2 dummies at night or he can't sleep, took one dummy away and he woke continuously all night. I'm not sure whether to be tough and just take them away and let him be upset for a few days (he is extremely addicted to them!) or just leave them i his bed so that he can only have them at bedtime and let him grow out of them........its a tough one.
Bought a second hand dining table and chairs today so now we get to all eat at the table together, i think this will improve Archies eating. AF is due tomorrow so fingers crossed i start feeling really queasy instead, my cycle is all over the place a 5 weeks cycle is often normal for me so lucky me gets a 3WW, whooopeee!
Hope everyone enjoyed their weekends
I remember my mum took my brother's dummy away becasue she thought it was 'time' for it to go. He didn't sleep for a month and when she took him to the GP he told her to give his dummy back. He gave it up in his own time.
Kim ~ thats so funny... poor kid Nick still had a dummy at 3 and a half no biggy he only ever had it at home and one day he threw it out and told us he didn't want it and that was that ryan i reckon we will need a small detonator to detach it from his lips
Talking of dummies, Lachlan uses his bottle (I fill it with water) as a pacifier, it calms and relaxes him, I was concerned at first but he has fought me all his life too sleep, so now we are both getting some peace and quiet time. Sometimes he will go to sleep and sometimes he won't but I don't get him out of his cot for atleast an hour as a rule. He doesn't even drink much water out of it, I put him down twice a day with 180ml once for both sleeps and he will drink 30ml. But hey that is 30ml more then what he was getting before. He just loves his bottle / teat. If I take it away from him he screams. I have made a rule it is only for bed, otherwise he would walk around the house all day with it hangin out of his mouth.
Elissa, GL for tomorrow.
Tania, Hi honey, no we aren't very good at all here atm. Just a kid who hates food! That is my assumption, the little rat. Always had issues, they just continue!
I gave Lachlan yoghurt 2 nights ago and appeared no reaction. His poop was definitely soft, but I wouldn't call it dirreha. So bought some more today and he scoffed it. Now that is a food he definitely likes.
So the two foods he definitely doesn't resist is yoghurt and his rice snacks. That's it. Everything else he is really hot and cold with. More cold then hot mind you.
thats good that there was no reaction sheree Tyan Hates yoghurt i gave up trying him with it tonight i tried him with corn meat fritters he ate one and that was only because i was eating them too
Far out, for all you who have fussy kids - I have one with hollow legs - now don't think I'm bragging because I'm not. My DH was the lightest member of his family at 120kgs by some 20kgs (MIL and SIL included) - I'm so paranoid.
Darcy will even eat pizza with olives. The only thing she doesn't eat is icecream.
Shazz yeah I find also Lachlan will try things if I am eating it, but then if he doesn't like it will wait for you to finish before he comes near you again. I think anything corn with kids is a winner generally, that is from my experiences with Lachlan. Yoghurt is what sent his feeding (drinking) really bad at 5 mths, that was the turning point for us, he had a reaction to it and would only drink 10-20ml max with a fight. But the funny thing is he loved it back then like he does now, so I was scared, but all is good so far! I have tried him with other dairy ie: cheese, custard (nope hates them)
Kim - I am confused, why are you paranoid, are you paranoid cause you think she will turn out big?
uh huh. My PIL have no idea about food, my MIL would be close to 200kg. My SIL is 150kg (at only 25). My DH had no idea about nutrition until he lived with me, and only now that he's been on a strict diet for 8 weeks does he understand portion size. It's like they were all born with an eat as much as you can gene. You should see them at a smorgasboard - embarrassing.
Wow Kim what a big family. But for now just be thankful she eats, that is a bonus trust me. She has a good mother to teach her later on.
shereejoy - thats great that you found another food he loves, Archie has always loved it too, its pcked with good stuff which is a bonus. thanks for wishing me luck, i'll prob need it!
shazz - sounds like Ryan loves his dummy just as much as Archie.
kim - lol about the smorgasboard, made me think of the Klumps from Nutty Professor 2. hope you don't take that the wrong way, i can totally relate to being worried about Darcy's eating habits DH has a problem with portion sizes, he is the same with a smorgasboard, its shocking, though he has gotten a little bit better since we've beeen together. i used to eat like a sparrow before we got together, now i eat too much at most meals. i'm sure ur influence will help Darcy with her eating habits. My mum said exactly the same thing about dummies, she got rid of my sisters dummy when she was 4 without my sisters consent and she reckons my sister has had constant 'issues' ever since that day. She tells everyone to just let them have the dummy til they decided to ditch it, so i'd say thats what we'll do, just restrict it to bed times.
Archie had a major head bang tonight, he wee'd on the dining room floor then slipped in it (after he got down and tasted it!) and fell over and bashed his head on the skirting board, he has a dent in his forehead, nothing a piece of chocolate couldn't fix though.
Oh Archie you poor love (after I finished laughing)!!! That is something Darcy would do.
Do you ever feel mean for laughing at them while they have mishaps discovering things? I feel like I'm laughing all the tiem....
Poor Archie :(
I agree with you Vic, it doesn't look right to me to see a 2 year old with a dummy in his/her mouth, but like you said that is just me! Each to their own I guess.
And Vic, sucking on the bottle (with the water in it, as he is not drinking much) is the same as sucking on a dummy in my eyes, but you are right sucking on a bottle with milk in it, is apparently not good for their teeth. I have run this by my paed and she doesn't approve of me putting him to bed with a milk bottle, but when I told her what I do then she agreed it is ok. My reasoning is, I would normally cradle him, give him his bottle and put him down. We go in after 10mins and he is sound asleep when he feeds himself. She is ok with that, but apparently if they were not drinking the milk that fast then the milk can stay sitting in the mouth cavities hence not good for teeth. Apparently anyway, that is what I have been told, but for the simple fact I go in and get the bottle within a short amount of time, she is happy that we continue to do this. If you have any other information, please share. We have always just struggled to get him to sleep and as he gets older it is getting even harder again. So this way we don't hear a peep and he is asleep within 10mins.
Hey girls!
Still alive here. Not feeling to crash hot today!
Brent and I dtd lastnight (sorry if TMI) and i have had a downward spiral since. I felt sick straight after and could'nt sleep. My belly was really sore aswell. So i am still feeling sick today and i am having period like pains. I hope we did'nt trigger anything! Brent told me lastnight the reason he has'nt been trying to dtd is cause i am getting to close!! Maybe i should have followed his advice!
Briley is good. Really starting to sleep through the nights now. Or maybe i don't notice cause Brent gets up to her!!!
We went to the hospital for another check-up on Briley's eye yesterday. Because i think it is still blocked she has to go for an operation on it now. The operation itself only takes 5 minutes but she still has to be put to sleep. I am scared big time and want to cry everytime i think about it. One of us has to go in with her while they put her to sleep and i want too but i think it will be too traumatising for me. I know i will be a mess if i go in or not.
Sorry for the lack of personals. I have been so lazy with them lately. I am getting really tired.
Hope you are all well.
Hugs and Kisses!