Babies Born November 2007

Welcome Suse! I will also duck in and read your birth story as soon as I get the chance.

Hoody - sounds like things are a bit tough for you at the moment hun. There are advantages and disadvantages to having bubbas close together. You will get through the hard parts at the same time and when other people (like me) are just starting the hard part again with their second bubs, you will be in the clear with two bigger kiddies. I guess that is not much consolation at the moment, but hang in there, you are doing a great job and I just can't imagine the patience that it must take to deal with two bubbas at the moment.

Willow - we too have good days and bad days. Don't feel guilty about your IVF bub. Some people fall preg accidentally and wind up with the most perfect bubs in the whole world (eg my lil sis). They don't run around going "wow, I didn't want him, but geez he is perfect..." So don't feel guilty that you have tried so hard to have a baby, and get stuck with a bad-sleeper. It is like EVERYTHING has to be hard for some people. I guess you already know that it does get better, but I am sure it really DOES get better :D As for the Tresellian stay, over here in WA we have Ngala, which sounds like the same thing. I am booked in for the 31st of December. If it helped you before, then go for it! A little bit of sanity just goes a long way, and as parents I think we need all the help we can get.

As for us...good days and bad days. DH had a bit of a mini-breakdown last night, which I found really hard. He said he is so worried about me and PND and worried about Caden and he is not really enjoying being a dad because it is so hard just waiting for bubs to cry. I tried to rally for him and told him all the good things, but really I felt like a fraud because I agree with him entirely! I do really believe that things get better, it is just when? When does it get better? When he is 6 months old? 12 months? I mean, I love him to the ends of the earth, but I just can't help feeling so desperate all the time and there is a knot in my stomach that is constant.

Well, enough of a whinge, back to the grind stone. I agree with you Willow and Hoody - a good cry always helps! But really, I am sick of crying, almost everyday I feel like crying, and I didn't even cry at my Grandmas funeral!

Sorry, there I go again, spoiling the mood. *hugs* to everyone and I sincerely hope you all have a great Chrissy,

Dragonbub- Huge hugs to you and your DH. Your DH will come around i promise. With DD1 my DH was very much the same then one day when she was about 4 months old he came home from work in the best mood picked her up and said to me "omg i just realised how much i love her" he said he never doubted that he did love her but it was such a huge adjustment period and things are always tough in the beginning. For him it was overwhelming in the beginning and in his eyes all she did was sleep, ***** and cry (ok well that is true but ykwim). He is very similar with Molly and i have had comments from family that he doesnt seem to 'like' her which is sad but i know in time he will be just as smitten as he is with DD1. If things continue and you are both still struggling maybe in the new year some family couselling would help. I hope that tomorrow you both enjoy your day. Maybe we can catch up sooner than later too if you like. :hug:

Aw Dragonbub, your poor DH. I know I keep saying this and you still can't see it yet, but it DOES get sooooo much better. Just like Hoody said, the Dad's tend to come around when bub is a bit older and a bit more interactive and doing more than just cry, poo and sleep (or not sleep as the case may be!).

DS was an absolute trooper with his needles and slept like a log the whole day and night! We had him out and about yesterday and he was so good, slept and settled really well. Had a hard time settling him to sleep for the night last night but we had about 20 people over so with all the noise, lights etc it wasn't any wonder :rolleyes:

Had him weighed again and the little porker has hit 6kg!

He has slept well again today actually, did a 3 hour sleep before this one. I called the tresillian parents line again today (I know, I'm a shocker!! Need constant reassurance I do :rolleyes:) and she told me that while going for the day stay is always a great idea that she didn't think DS was a bad sleeper at all and that I'm doing all the right things (don't know how many times I need to hear that!) and that I shouldn't expect to see any huge improvements with his waking during sleeps for about a month. At about 12 weeks they are much more able to self settle and she said that if I stay consistent things should really improve from there. She also said that the peak period for a newborn to be unsettled was between about 6 to 9 weeks (so watch out Hoody! LOL) which rings true for us, DS has only been a bit unsettled again since about 6.5 weeks.

I really can't complain too much because he hardly ever cries and is such a happy boy when he's awake.

So, feeling good about things again - I swear its like being on a rollercoaster! One day we're up, the next we're down!

I'm going away tomorrow with DD and DS (poor DH has to work :() to stay at my parent's place on the north coast for about a week. I'll be back around the 5th January.

I hope you are all enjoying the christmas holidays and hope you all have a fantastic new year!

I am watching out Willow, PMSL. With DD1 she got really unsettled at 10 weeks and i had her screaming for hrs on end for about 2 weeks. The thought of it scares me. I really hope Molly doesnt get too unsettled.

Enjoy your trip away and make the most of your parents been around.

So it really does get better? That's good! I am going down south to spend a few days with my sis to give DH a break. I think he needs some good sleep and to recharge his batteries, that way he will have more patience with Caden when he gets back (or realise how much better life is without a bub and divorce us LOL). It will be a good break for me too as my sis will be able to help out a fair bit.

Sorry to be a wet blanket, I am sure you have your problems as well. I guess being a new mum makes it harder as I didn't expect to be landed with an extremely grumpy baby!

I am going to organise a chiropractor for Caden. Apparently that has helped lots of collicy babies. I just hope it helps us. But still, Caden is 10 weeks today, and is just around the corner from that magic 3 month mark, so hopefully his colic will ease off a bit soon.

Hoody - yeah would be good to catch up soon. I will PM you in the New Year and perhaps we could grab a cuppa in the city or something?

Willow - Glad to hear you are doing "all the right things". I agree, the good day and bad day rollercoaster is very frustrating. I guess you have to just keep on doing and trying everything and not let the bad times affect your confidence (which is really hard).

Well, 42 degrees here today! We have no aircon either, so VERY grumpy baby.

Will chat after the weekend cos I will be away from the computer,

Have a great week everyone :D

Willow - Its funny that you were told that the babies get more unsettled during the 6-9 week period. We have noticed a big difference in his temperament during the days now. I am not sure if that is me not catching him before he gets overtired or not, but it is certainly becoming a lot more difficult getting him to sleep. Plus over the last few days he is only feeding for really short times, like 5 minutes. Not sure what is going on there, will see how long it lasts. Have a good break on the coast.

Dragonbub - I have a friend who went to a Chiropractor for her really unsettled little boy and the change was huge after just one session. Good luck! Have a good break!

Hoody - Hope you guys are starting to feel a bit better, enjoy your break too.

Suse - Welcome to the thread. Don't worry about a routine appearing because no sooner do you think you have one than it changes anyway. Oh and I am sure that was definitely a smile. I know some people will tell you they don't smile until they are about 6-8 weeks old but we definitely got smiles here around the 3 week mark.

We had a horror few days at the end of last week after I started the mini-pill. Jacob screamed after each feed and he was awake all the time. He went from 3-4 hourly at night to every 1.5-2hours. Looking around on the forums I discovered that the mini-pill can make some babies irritable or can reduce your supply temporarily. Apparently they get used to it, but I couldn't stand the anguish in his eyes and have stopped taking it now. (hmm, not sure about contraception now).

Hope you all enjoyed your very first Christmas with your news babies. Its pretty special

June- its true they say crying in NB's peak during this time. Funny enough my DD was 6 weeks old yesterday and we have had the worst day today! She literally cried for hours. Poor thing though had a slight temp so i gave her some panadol as after a bath it hadnt gone down and now she is sleeping. Thats interesting about the mini pill i never knew that. At the moment we are not using contraception but saying that we have only DTD twice. I am tossing up between the mirena iud and the pill.

Willow- i'm on that roller coaster and we are on a downer today- hopefully we will be up again tomo :) I have to say i love reading your posts you remind me of me! I hope you have a good time away as well and cant wait to hear all about it.

Dragonbub- It does get better as we keep saying but it takes time and at times can feel like it will always be this tough. I am pleased you are going away for a break hopefully it will do you all some good and you can go home refreshed to a refreshed DH. How on earth did you cope with the weather yesterday. You said 42 is what it got to but when i checked on the net mid arvo it had peaked at 44.5. This is our 1st summer with air con and i dont know how we managed without b4. I look forward to hearing from you when you come home :)

Suse- how are you coping?

Everyone else your all been very quiet- must be busy. I hope you all had lovely Christmases and i look forward to hearing how you are doing.

Hello

Its very quiet in here :( i love reading an hearing how you are all doing and there is nothing new to read since i last posted. (i know some of you are away ;) )

Well we are having a rough couple of days at the moment but are coping (jsut ;) ) It has been ok as Dh is not yet back at work so i have had lots of help with both girls. DD1 has been very good and has even wee'd on the potty so i think we are starting to TT even though i didnt want to start just yet. DD2 on the other hand has been very unsettled. She has been good at night but i am finding it nearly impossible to settle her during the day. I have my very own 'velcro baby' this weekend and its not very fun. DH tried to let me sleep in this morning but all i could hear was her crying. In the end i got up to see to her but it made no diff she just wasnt very happy. I guess we are jsut having a bad week hopefully when DH goes back to work she will change back to my happy girl. Well thats enough from me for today. Take care and i would love to hear from those of you who are not away if you have the time :)

Aww Hoody, I hear you at the moment! You poor thing. Big hugs.

I had a similar thing last night - DP is back to work tomorrow so last night was his last night off. Euan just wouldn't settle and DP told me to go to bed, that he'd bring him in once he'd settled him. I woke at 6:30 and found DP asleep on the couch, and Euan asleep in the pram - apparently once DP got him to sleep he was too tired to try to get him into the cot so I got a good night's sleep. I really felt for DP though - but gee I needed the sleep! And then I slept more on the couch because Euan went straight back to sleep after a feed. Not quite sure when it's going to end but he so far hasn't cried ONCE today, apart from when he's had a nappy change. So we are guaranteed demon baby tonight for sure!! Perhaps he is being lovely baby today because he realised that mummy was going to crack last night and feed him to the crocodiles - or he has just worn himself out after two days of constant eating and crying.

My DP finds it pretty hard too sometimes - he says he can't wait until he can rationalise with him (LOL!). But they do have a few nice moments together which is great, and he is slowly becoming interactive baby which makes such a difference. We live for the good moments right? Everyone I know says the first few months are really hard - but I don't think anyone really understands what that means until it happens. I know that I didn't!

Hugs to all and hope you are all having good days!

OMG, OMG - we just got back from pub - Euan didn't wake up the entire time we were there - I got to eat dinner without a baby attached to my boob!!! We just got home and he's just waking up now, so better go feed the monster!

Hello All,
Back from my stay with my sis. Hope you all had a good Chrissy!

Suse - LOL about the meal. Yeah, it is hard on DPs I guess, they try to do as much as they can but it is hard for them as they can't breast feed.

Hoody - Good to hear your lil one might be ready for TT. It makes it alot easier apparently if they indicate that they are ready before you start trying. Yes, I will PM you my mobile number and maybe we can catch up in the city.

June 78 - My bub was definitely unsettled starting from 6 weeks til now pretty much. It is sooo hard, and I am just hanging out for the time when the happy-times are longer and the grumpy times are shorter.

As for us - had a rough few days, but it was great being with my sis for support. Caden was SO full of wind yesterday, the poor thing just screamed and screamed until he eventually fell asleep. I cried a bit too, I just hate seeing him in pain. I am hanging on by a thread to that magic 12 week mark. I know it might not get better, but anything has to be better than yesterday :(

I hate to whinge, I really do, but it feels as if I have wished his whole life away. I mean, I counted the days until we could TTC, then it was taking temps and torturing myself in the 2ww and then it was just praying for that magic 12 week mark again where we could find out that bubs was in the clear for MC, then waiting out the pregnancy, then now, where I just want to morph myself into the future to the time when he is happy and no more pain. It feels as if the last 2 years has been one big count down.

Anyway, enough whinging for now, have a great New Years everyone,

Hang in there Dragonbub - and don't feel like you shouldn't whinge - that's what we're here for! If you can't have a vent on BB, where can you? And BTW, I don't think you are whinging at all, I don't think that anything that you are feeling is unusual, and I feel for you that you are going through the hard times ATM!

I was very lucky, in that yesterday was a good day - it made the bad days prior to that (where I wanted to feed him to the crocodiles) not just bearable, but worthwhile. I really hope that you get a good day soon sweet - sending happy baby vibes and hugs your way.

Dragonbub feel free to let it all out here. This isn't easy as the damn things don't come with instructions or seem to follow the "usual" expectations. Just hang in there and enjoy the good moments! Glad you had your sis around the last few days!

Suse - lol about going out. I got to go out for dinner too. DS was awake the whole time but didn't cry so I was happy.

Had a bad few days at the end of this week. Ended up with mastitis (god how painful), but the antibiotics seemed to have knocked that on the head. Feeling much better now.

Oooh, the mastitis sounds really nasty june78 - I'm glad you got it sorted out and are feeling much better now.

Went proper shopping today, ie retail therapy. Didn't think we'd EVER leave the house after monster poo, then huge vomit all over mummy like exorcist baby except it wasn't green and his head didn't spin, then voracious 'feed like there'll never be booby again' baby for two and a half hours - but we FINALLY made it out of the front door and although he cried for a minute getting in and out of the car he fell asleep as soon as i put him in the baby bjorn and we shopped and had coffee for two whole hours!!!

Got a nursing pillow (the My Brest Friend one) which although extremely ugly and a bit cumbersome to put on, made my aching arms and shoulders feel much better. Euan is doing the 'latch on, latch off' trick which I'm sure is keeping him entertained but not very well fed (and he gulps in air every time he goes on and off), so anything that will help him stay in a good position is a wonderful thing, I can even cope with ugly and cumbersome if it saves my boobies and reduces his wind. They are holding up really well so far but I have heard the stories of the horror of cracked nipples and mastitis - really don't want to go there...

Oh, and we managed to have a bath without him screaming his head off - he was very cute with this confused look of "hmmm, I know I should be screaming right now but I can't remember why. Maybe I do like this water stuff after all...". Although he turned into screaming baby as soon as I got him out of the bath and did a massive wee all over the couch (which is where I was drying him - thank goodness for leather - wipes clean!!). And I still hadn't got most of the vomit off, so the wee didn't make any difference!

So, even though I have been pooed, weed and vomited on, today has been a good day so far. He's finally out for the count, but will wake him at 8:00 otherwise we'll never get any sleep tonight!

Hi all :)

Charlotte Paige was born 8 day s late on 19th november - 8'5". After a 24 hour labour at home I went in to hospital to find all was not ok, so she was delivered y emergency c/s. I was so scared - but you wouldnt have found a healthier baby - and after they starte the epi everything was all of a sudden so much rosier!! lol

Been home for a little while now, but def loved the 5 days in hospital - so good when they took the staples out! Trying to cope on my own (hubby works 2 weeks on 1 off in Kalgoorlie) an ddoing well so far. She's wonderful! Feeds really well which Im so happy about, but trying to get her to take a bottle every now and then of expressed BM (going on hols soon) and she wont have a bar of it!! Any suggestions would be great!

Hope to get to know you all well...and look forward to sharing this VERY new experience for me with you all :)

BIG congrats to all the other mummies (esp the 1st timers!)

Alexis :)

hi girls, hope you don't mind if I join in. We are a November baby house too, Paisley was born the 21st and I've also got a mad little man (21 months ) as well.

Things are up and down here, with me sitting here at the screen at 3am with Paisley in the sling trying to convince ger to go back to sleep! She has her good moments but just like her brother did has more bad moments just now. Like many of you we are doing it tough but I know it'll get better.
Well that's it for me at the mo' just wanted to pop in and join your little group.

Take care everyone, for those fellow Melbournians - try and stay cool!

Happy new year!!!!!

DragonBub Welcome back form your few days away. Sorry to hear Caden is still unsettled i hope he is kind to his Mummy and lets you have a nice New Years Eve. Dont worry if you feel like you whinge alot i feel like that too but as the other girls said thats what this place is for- for helping us clear our heads with others who understand.

June78 How are the BB has your mastitis cleared up fully yet? You poor thing i have not had it yet this time around but with DD1 had a nasty case and its not pleasent.

Suse Glad you got to enjoy a couple of hours shopping. I am very jealous. I struggle to get out to get milk and bread let alone some retail therapy but its mainly due to DD1 who likes to play up now Molly is here.

Limeslice Welcome Welcome and Welcome. You must be very strong to manage whilst your DH is working away. It is something my DH has considered doing but i dont think i'd cope with 2 little ones on my own. I'm hearing you on how good it is when they take the staples out after the CS i was scared of mine coming out but it felt sooo good. I have no tips for expressing i have not tried to give Molly a bottle yet as i am petrified of ruining our BFing (silly i know as she has a dummy but i had lots of probs with dd1 so i am paranoid)

Krisp Welcome to you too. We have the same age gaps between our too bubs and i also post in the March 06 thread when i have time. Hows Ewan coping with Paisley been around? We have had a few issues but i think we are over the worst of it (well i hope)

Well i have been a bit quiet the last couple of days as i have not had time to scratch my bum, lol. Little Miss Molly has turned into quite an unsettled little monster and no matter how many times i threaten to sell her on ebay she doesnt seem to improve. It looks as though we are going to prove all the books and experts right by having a peak in crying at 6 weeks. Yesterday she was up literally all day. I tried no end of times to get her to sleep but to no avail. In the end i felt as if i could have thrown her so at about 9pm i drove myself to my sisters and let her take over. DH was in bed with a migraine so had been useless to me all day. Today we got off to a rough start but she has been asleep for an hour now so i'm hoping she will be more content when she wakes. I am jsut greatful that DD1 has been good the last few days. It really is one or the other at the moment so Molly will prob be a star next week and DD1 will more than likely play up. Cant win. Well at least i am in brighter spirits today.
SO are any of you brave enough to go out tonight? I would love nothing more than to party with a few drinks but i can tell you its not going to happen.

HAPPY NEW YEAR :happyforyou:

Well today's not been the best...usually I dont have any hassels with Charlie duringht eday...but today!! She has fed every hour since 11.45am today...and has been awake save two 30 mins stints since 11am too! House looks like a bombs hit it, and I cant seem to manage to find the motivation to get out of my pyjamas....oh well...shes gotta sleep eventually - and you never know, she may sleep most of th night now!

Going out to friends place (the surrogate family! lol) so going to get her dressed and go for a walk before we go...try and calm her a little.

Hmm...ever notice how its always when you have something to get done that they play up...its like they know.. *flashbacks to "Look Who's Talking"*

hope you and yours all have a great night whatever happens, tomorrow is another day...and year!

Take care all and SMILE!! ;)

HAPPY NEW YEAR!!!! :confetti:

I thought it was about time I posted again! Sorry ladies :) I haven't been online as much lately and we're still on holidays down in the Mornington Peninsula in VIC!

Well, I don't have much to report with our little Mia, she's a very good girl :D we've had our moments where we were crying at the same time lol :lol: but overall we're both doing really well!

BFing took some time to get used to, and at one point I was using nipple shields just so my poor nips could get a break!! BFing is all going well now though yay! AND... it's been almost a year since i've had a drink of alcohol!

I can't believe Mia is 7 weeks old already! We almost have a bit of a routine going now... get up at 8am after a feed (or 11am if we sleep in together!) have a play for an hour or so, she's happy to just lie by herself and laugh and smile at everything in the room, but i like spending that awake time with her and seeing her gorgeous smiles!! Then it's feed time again, play, sleep, feed, play, sleep until her big sleep usually from 7 or 8pm through til midnight, then feed, then sleep til 4am-ish, feed, sleep, and that brings us through to 8am again! I love being a mum though, it's just amazing, all the hard work is so worth it!

Anyway, sorry if i've been rambling :rolleyes: i have been feeling very guilty about not posting for so long! I hope everyone is well, and that all your bubbas are great too.... oh and Happy New Year!!

Keira xox

Hi everyone. Thought I would join the November babies group. My little man was born 23 November after a 29 hour labour, with an epidural that although helped me in the end, caused damage an resulted in an epidural patch being performed 5 days later an 8 day stay in hospital. Not fun.

The first few weeks at home were good, and he slept regularly during the night., but now it is absolutely crazy. He just wont sleep during the day unless he is carried or in the baby bjorn. Every time he falls asleep, and I put him in his basinet to sleep, he wakes up screaming. If I don’t pick him up, he will just keep screaming. He is only sleeping 1- 1/2 hours during the day, which is making me ( and him) absolutely exhausted. He was a good sleeper at night, normally going to sleep abut 9pm sometimes even 7pm. Waking once for a feed, then going back to sleep until 5- 6am.

Last night he decided that although he had only slept for a total of 1 hour during the day, he would finally go to sleep at 11pm, wake for feed at 4am, then not go back to sleep until much settling at 5.30am for 1 hour.

Does anyone have any suggestions, as I am now so tired that I feel like I have the flu. I have tried patting him in his basinet, rocking it, singing, and the only thing that seems to work is me picking him up, and he will then fall straight back to sleep. I can tell he is tired, as he is very grumpy now. I am letting him sleep in the baby bjorn at the moment, just so he can get some rest, but this isn’t really a great solution, especially as he gets bigger, I just wont be able to carry him.

HAPPY NEW YEAR EVERYONE!

And welcome LimeSlice, Krisp and EJE!!

Hmm, think I hear the small human stirring, so a short post from me. Hmm, maybe not.

He is in sleepy baby mode today (I shudder to think what he'll be like tonight!), and you will all hate me for saying this, but slept through for 9 hours last night - from midnight to 9:00am!!! Then he was awake till 11:30 and is still asleep. What a new year's present! If it's any consolation to the sleep deprived, he'd only had 1.5 hours sleep since waking at 3:00am the previous night/morning - he must have been exhausted! It seems to be one good day, followed by one bad day at the mo!

My MIL leaves today, so we are going to pop the cot into the spare room and make it a baby room - that way DP and I will get unbroken sleep. He's such a noisy child - he makes so many little (and not so little) noises in his sleep and we wake to every one of them. Especially the farting - OMG the noises that come out of his butt - they are incredible! The puppy dog sounds are also very cute.

This is weird - I semi-woke in a panic twice last night thinking that Euan had fallen asleep in bed next to me or had fallen off the bed (he hadn't, he was in his cot) and reached over to pick him up and put him in the cot. I was actually trying to pick up DP and put him in the cot - I'm not sure why I suddenly thought I had a 6 foot baby. Hopefully once Euan is in the spare room I'll stop doing it. We've never co-slept with him so not sure where I'm getting it from!

We ended up going to a friend's BBQ last night which was a last minute thing - it was really good to get out for a couple of hours and hang out with people. Euan spent most of it on the boob - so was no trouble at all! Although he did get pretty stroppy each time I tried to settle him to sleep - so I just stuck him back on and he shut right up! Probably I'll regret it later, but it worked!

I hope you all are having a lovely new year's day and all of your respective bubbas are being good.

Hoody, I'm sorry to hear that your DDs are playing tag-team at driving mummy crazy - what a co-ordinated effort. I hope you get a break soon!

EJE - no suggestions for you, but sending you hugs and hope that it gets better soon. My little guy has done similar things but doesn't seem to have a routine so I don't know that anything I've done specifically has settled him, although he seems to have better days if we have gone out somewhere that day. Perhaps the stimulation helps? He doesn't go to sleep by himself (but mostly self settles if he wakes once asleep), and will either fall asleep on the boob or in the baby bjorn. Once he's asleep though - we can drop a bomb next to him and he will sleep through it. Is there anybody who can take Luke for a couple of hours to give you a few hours proper sleep?

Keira, I'm glad to hear that you have a good routine going with Mia - she is just adorable! Euan has just started smiling and it is the most incredible thing!

LimeSlice - know what you mean about the "they've got to sleep eventually" feeling. There are days where I'm just hanging on by a thread to that thought! Hope your feeding monster has settled - Euan does that too and it can be exhausting! It can be hard to tell whether they are actually really hungry or just comfort sucking, but I'm getting better at telling the difference.

DragonBub - hope that you are having a better time now that you are back from your sister's, and that both you and DH are feeling a bit recovered. My DP sleep till nearly lunchtime today - I've suggested that if he still doesn't get any sleep once we've moved the cot into the spare room that he stays with a friend for a few nights to recover. It makes so much difference having a night of proper sleep.

Anyone I've forgotten - sorry - hope you are all doing good!!

HAPPY NEW YEAR TO ALL OF YOU

We are still struggling today and Molly is still very unsettled, she did sleep from 10-4 last night but apart from that big stint she has pretty much been awake the whole time. She will doze but will wake after 5-10mins screaming as if she is in pain. I definately think she must be a bit colicy this is the 4th or 5th day of screaming for hours on end. I am trying everything i can to possible calm her but am feeling a little at my wits end. Thank goodness today is a pub holiday and DH is home so i am not doing it alone. My local CHN runs an open clinic tomo morning so i will go along to have Molly weighed and to hopefully get a bit of reassurance. I have a few Q's to ask too as her poo is really foul at the moment so i dont know if i am eating something thats no agreeing with her or if she could have a slight bug or if its normal and i am been a paranoid mummy. We are going to the IL's for tea tonight which is the last thing i want to do but DD1 is going to stay after dinner so at least i will have a break from her until tomo lunch time. Mind you she is been very good at the moment. It will just be nice to not have to get her up fed and dressed along with myself and Molly iykwim. Well sorry for the lack of personals DH is getting wound up with trying to settle Molly and i am feeling a little calmer so i will go take back over.

Hi all :) Hope NY Day is treating you all kindly.
DD is having a good day today...a couple of sleeps and feeds and some play time and she's rolling along in a very agreeable mood - thanks Baulder! lol

Suse - glad to hear you also have some peace...enjoy the harmony while the goings good!

EJE - Have you tried co-sleeping? When Charlotte was having a bad time last week, it was the only thing that worked...and that way she can also feed without having to wake up and get unsettled. Charlotte likes sleeping on our chests (think its the boob pillow!) but I found that just having her near me settled her down a lot. You can get some sleep then too!
Rubbing her feet also helps sometimes...she kicks a bit at first, but if you keep eye contact and talk softly and steadily the relax...Start at the heel with your thumb and rub in circles up wards to the ball of the foot - both feet at once for a few minutes. It wont put Luke to sleep but may just relax him a little.

Hoody : Sorry to hear Molly is still giving you a hard time. Thank god for the IL's sometimes! Have you tried some Infacol for her tummy? Charlotte got bad a couple weeks ago so I went and bought some and it does wonders - farts a lot more now though LOL Anyhow, I hope all goes well with the Nurse tomorrow...How's Molly coping with the heat? I find I have to drink about 5 litres of water a day just to keep Charlotte happy she feed so often in the heat! Not looking forward to the next couple of days (I wish I had A/C!!!)

Well, better go and pull the washing off the line while DD is snoozing and i miss my chance!

Take care all...Best wishes for all of us for the new year!!

Alexis
x:)

Hello All,
Thanks for the support. I feel all I do these days is whinge, but I know things will get better.

Hoody - Caden was like this at week 6. He just screamed all the time and was inconsolable, he pretty much cried until he was so exhausted he just crashed. I think I went slightly insane that week, but it was over pretty soon (thus began the turning point where my sleepy happy bub became a monster!). Hopefully it is just a "phase" and will be over soon.

Newbies - hello and welcome. It will be great to have you in here. Sounds like all our bubbas are a bit of a handful at the moment.

WEnt to Ngala yesterday. We are trying a new sleep routine, where we are teaching Caden how to send himself off to sleep. It sort of involves a kind of controlled crying but not, where I listen to him cry for about 4 minutes, and then go in and settle him, then leave again. As long as he does settle, then I can keep doing it for about half hour, before trying something different. If he doesn't settle, then I pick him up and try other things.

Today was a hard day as there was no nurse to assist us. He took 45 minutes to settle, then slept for half hour, then another 45 to settle, then slept for 2 and a half hours! Then two hours to settle before it was time for a feed and change and bath anyway before bed. Bedtime was easier, only about 20 minutes. It is hard and I so hope it gets easier. DH is back at work tomorrow, so will be doing it on my own. I have a whole heap of housework to do so will do that to occupy my mind. Might try some earplugs as well! It will be almost 40 degrees here tomorrow, so that is just going to make things harder :(

Again with the whinging! Oh well...

Have a great week all, hope you are all keeping cool,

For Dranonbub, Hoody, EJE and anyone else with settling/colic issues...

I found this in one of my books, and found it SOMETIMES works for Charlotte, though you might like to try it too.

"These are the only essential oils I recommend you to use on babies up to 2 months:
Chamomile Roman, Chamomile German, Lavender, Yarrow, Dill."

The best way to use oils is to allow the molecules to circulate throughout a space (usually with a diffuser (electric burner) but you can also use infusion (steaming water.)
Place a bowl of steaming water on the floor in bubs room, away from their head and add the oils to it so the steam carries the oil around the space.

"1 drop oil to 1 pint (560 ml) water is sufficient for small babies"

Diffuser Method:
"Make certain that it has a glazed surface, so that it can be thoroughly cleaned. Avoid the natural -looking porous clay type diffuser for use with babies and chldren
"DO NOT use essential oil neat in diffuser in a baby's room. Even one drop..is too powerful. So add 1 drop of oil to a dessertspoon of water, mix well and add a little of this water too diffuser bowl."

"If baby is suffering from any digestive problem - colic, diarrhea, constipation, regurgitation - use DILL essential oil. If baby is not sleeping well, use chamomile roman"
~"The Fragrant Pharmacy"


You should be able to get all these at a health food store.

Hope it helps :)

Wow, LimeSlice, that sounds great! I might give it a go anyway cos it sounds lovely. WE have the Huggies bedtime bath, lotion and powder which has lavendar in it for calming, so this sounds like a perfect addition in the evening.

Thanks!

Wow I have had a few days off the computer and this thread has gone crazy. Hope everyone had a great new years.

We have been pretty good over the last few days. Jacob is sleeping pretty well at night, he seems to be feeding 4-5 hourly at night, but during the day for some reason he has decided that I can't put him to sleep. It doesnt' matter what I do he will either just cry continually until I hand him to someone else, or if I do manage to settle him he wakes up as soon as I put him down. Thankfully today he isn't doing that, so I'm hoping it was just a passing thing. We have also had a few lovely evenings of crying before his big sleep. We suspected it was because he was getting a little overstimulated during the day (way too many visitors lately), so we had a quiet day yesterday and he settled wonderfully. I just love how we had to change daily what works.

He is growing so quickly now, I have now taken all of his 0000 outfits out of the wardrobe. We go to the Dr's on Monday for his two month immunisations and I can't wait to get him weighed.

Mastitis has completely cleared up which is great. If any of you even suspect that you are getting mastitis go the the Dr's as quickly as possible, it gets really bad really quickly. I couldn't even rest my arm against the area at all.

Suse - congrats on the big sleep. I hope it gets repeated for you. Our record is 6 hours. How did Euan go in his own room? We have had Jacob in his room since the start and I am so glad we did, he is just so damn noisy.

Limeslice - Welcome. I like your suggestion for massaging feet and the oils, might have to give that a try.

Krisp - How are you managing in all that heat?

Keira - Sounds like you have pretty much the same routine we do. It does change a lot but thats pretty much how it plays out at our place as well.

Hoody - I hope Molly is settling a bit better for you. We had the unsettled period around six weeks too, but it only lasted a few days. It also seemed to coincide with him wanting more awake time and me not picking up on the cues of when he was tired. He then got overtired which made him an absolute nightmare to settle. I am now really strict on starting to settle him for a sleep as soon as I see him getting tired, or if he has been awake for about an hour. Not sure if this would work for you. Hopefully you get some answers with the CHN.

Dragonbub - how is the new sleep routine going?

Hope I haven't missed anyone. I hope you are all getting some rest, remember your sleep is much more important than the washing.

hi guys! typing 1 handed so very slow today! almost asleep bubba in arm!

june78 - didn't get to put Euan in own room yesterday because dp was too tired to help move the furniture. he paid for it because we had wriggly, noisy, farty baby who kept waking us up all night (although Euan slept from 10-4:30, then 5:45-8, he didn't wake himself up!!!). it will def. get done friday!!

went to see MCHN today - he'd only put on 260gm in the last 2 weeks. They don't think he's put on enough (average 130gm a week), and want me to start expressing to build up my supply. He was 4.2kg at birth and is now 4.56 at 5 weeks. :-(

Finally put him down - am going to go and join him. DP doesn't finish work till 9:00 tonight so taxi-driver suse will have a late one...

hi girls!

Good day today - so hot! No sun though which is a bonus :) Bubba been sleeping most of the day, except when I wake her up to feed her...wonder what is going to happen tonight now! lol

Feeling a lil lonely/depressed at the moment - not sleeping well either. I never needed much sleep anyway and not really getting tired...just gets lonely having an empty house with DP gone for 2 weeks at a time. Having all my family and friends in Melbourne is hard too...Think my mum is getting sick of me ringing everyday for any reason I can find! lol Oh well...Hump Day today...Daryl back next Wednesday...And poor old Charlotte! We go through the whole routine of settling her and putting her down and then an hour later Mum wants to pick her up and cuddle her!
*must find that rescue remedy!*


June - I had to pack up the 0000 jump suits when I brought her home - her legs were too long! lol But its so hot here most of the time she gets around in a singlet anyway - so many clothes she doesn't wear...all going up on EBay.

Suse - Charlotte had only put on 100g a week before Chrissie, have to go back to CHN tomorrow to get her weighed again...Fingers crossed that shes bumped up to the 30-50gm a day that they wanted her at ...It took her 3 weeks to get back to birth weight (3.77kg) Otherwise I have to start comp feeding her :(

Doing her footprints on her Birth certificate (finally arrived in one piece!!) just have to figure out a way to do it without her kicking and fussing and smudging the paint! Any suggestions if anyone has done it?...would love to her them!

Hope you are all surviving in the heat...power to the cold shower! :clap:

Hey Limesplice. I did Caden's foot prints and just got DH to distract him while I was doing it. I held his foot pretty tight but he didn't seem to mind. I tried again a week later and he kicked up a stink, but did it anyway. They don't smudge too much if you are quick and go straight on the canvas/paper whatever. Alternatively, do it when she is in a deep sleep.

I hear you about the weather! Mandurah is a degree cooler than Perth, if that is any consolation. My sis and mum live down there, and it is such a lovely place except for the mozzies. Don't feel lonely. Have you joined your mothers group? There should be one nearby you can attend.

Suse - I also wouldn't worry too much. The "ideal" is 150 - 200 gms a week, which does sound a little bit more than your bubba, but being a "biggen" might mean he doesn't need as much. My fella has put on an average of 350 per week since birth, but he lost more than 10% of his birth weight initially, and then only gained 70g the first week.

I recommend expressing anyway to build up your supply. That way when the nasty growth spurts hit, you already have enough for them, and they are less grumpy (I read that in a book somewhere and it makes sense). I always expressed, just to get some milk saved and I definitely think it helped. Besides, too much milk is better than not enough (just keep your pump handy if you are going out for more than 3 hours - the BBs can get sore!)

June78 - I agree on the "change daily" routines. It is only now at 11 weeks that we finally have a semblance of a routine. And that was by recording his sleep and awake times on a chart for three days. Shows how thick I can be, Caden gets grumpy at 6.30 each morning and wont go back down. After realising he has had his 1.5 hours of sleep, I have finally discovered that 6.30 is just the time he wants to get up! Too bad if I want a sleep in, cos he wants to play. Last night I mapped on the chart where I thought his feeds would be based on the last two nights, and sure enough, he was within half hour of my crosses. Clever boy, he knows what's going on, if only his mumma could catch up.

On the sleep routine - OMG! I don't want to speak too soon in case I jinx us, but what a difference! My little man could not "switch off" and was just getting more and more tired. That meant during his awake time, he was still extremely tired, and therefore very irritable. Every little fart would aggravate him. Now (after a painful couple of days of crying) he has learned how to fall asleep on his own in his cot, and get himself back to sleep after he wakes up (he has taken to his left thumb, which is VERY cute and most convenient). So far so good, fingers crossed. We have some lovely awake time and play time. I also get the chance to put him down, as I think he was an over-handled bub and really seems to relish in his own space.

Well, I am thrilled, :) (touch wood) that everything is improving. The magic 12 weeks is just around the corner and hopefully from here on in things will get a bit easier.

Hope you WA chickies are coping with the heat, and everyone else has a great week!

Dragonbub- Its so great to hear you sounding a bit happier. Molly is the same and once she is up in the morning (anywhere between 5 and 7) thats our day started too so too bad if DD1 and DH sleep in Molly and i are up.

Limeslice- Sorry to hear you are feeling a little lonely but it is understandable. As dragon bub said have you joined a mums group etc? I'd be lost without mine.

June78- Glad to hear your mastitis is much better.

Suse- Both my girls have been slow weight gainers. At 4 wks DD1 was only 160g above her birth weight and was alway very lean. I could never dress her (and still cant) in anything without an adjustable waist band. Poor kid does not have and ounce of fat on her. Molly was weighed today and is now up to 3.94kg thats just a 280g weight gain in 3wks. She started off well but has slowed right down.

Well Lil Miss Molly is still been a PITA but we are coping ok although the heat is disgusting. Thankgoodness for air con. But you ladies without it i know how you feel i never had it when DD1 was little. We went to the CHN and it looks like Molly has a bug and that is why she is so unsettled at the moment. We had her weighed and measured and she is up to 3.94kg and 57.5cm long so she has put only 280g in the last 3 weeks but has grown lots in length. My CHN isn't bothered much about the slow weight gain as DD1 was much the same etc and we are having lots of feed and wet nappies etc. Well she is crying again so i better go play the milk machine game for her. Have fun and talk to you all soon

Suse and Limesplice - i honestly wouldn't be too worried about the weight gain that you have. It really doesn't sound too bad to me. Some babies will have weeks where they put on a lot of weight and not at other times. I agree with Dragonbub about the expressing, it is the best way of increasing your supply if that is what you are worried about. If you start comp feeding it just works to decrease your supply and then you get in a bit of a vicous cycle. In QLD there isn't a regular CHN that you go to unless you go to your local chemist, so I haven't worried too much about weigh-ins apart from the 6 week checkup and next week when we have our immunisations. I am just going on if Jacob is happy, alert and filling nappies.

Dragonbub - I have been charting Jacob since we came home. Really only when he feeds, but it has been interesting to see patterns develop. I do know he has a monster poo sometime between 4-5am (and has had since he came home) which means he is pretty grizzly until that happens. After that we get a little more sleep thank heavens. Last couple of days he is feeding about 4 and then not waking up until 7 which is a reasonable start to the day. I would love for the 4am feed to disappear, but I won't hold my breathe.

Limeslice - make sure you get out of the house a little. Mothers groups are great, but it could just be as simple as going out for a walk. Maybe there is a mums and bubs exercise class you could join (i'm about to start that). I have days that fly by and I have no idea where my day has gone and others where I sit around wondering what to do with myself. Not used to be on my own so much but I am making an effort to get out and meet people as much as possible. Not easy for an introvert like myself but I am getting there.

So sick of the rain here. It has been raining pretty much on and off for about a week. Summer has compeletely disappeared here in Brisbane. I really want to go for a walk with the pram but there is no way we are going out in this.

Limesice- I did my little mans hand prints when he was lying asleep on DH's chest. We just watered down some non toxic acrylic paint, wiped it on his hand with a cotton wool ball, and then pressed his hand on the paper with a book underneath.

Oh thanks Limeslice I was just wondering what you guys were using to get the prints. I had no idea.

So very tired this morning. Jacob decided he didnt' want to sleep between 4-10pm last night. Actually I think he wanted to sleep just not in his cot. We would get him settled, put him in his cot and he would automatically wake up. Back and shoulders so sore from rocking him to sleep.

I did molly's foot prints in plaster this morning now that was hard she would curl her toes evry time they touched the plaster so they look a bit funny but oh well. With DD1 i used a non toxic paint and did it on card and gave them out as thankyous for all the gifts they where much easier than the plaster :)

I am hearing you on been tired Limeslice Molly didnt want to sleep last night either! But she is sleeping well today. I wonder if she is confusing day with night lol.

Hoody - wasn't yesterday absolutely gross? I had a wedding to attend and had my little man in just a nappy. It was sooo humid, with no sun out, and no breeze. The reception was great though, left bub at home with DH and enjoyed the aircon at the venue.

LimeSlice - how did you go with the Mother's group suggestion? Mandurah is tricky, but I am sure there are centres down there that allow mum's to drop by. It is also good to get out of the house for a walk. bit hard at the moment with the weather being the way it is, but even if you got a gal pal to look after bubs in the arvo and you could go for a walk on your own. Sounds like you need a bit of space? You are doing so well, what with DP away for 2 weeks at a time. I am not sure how I would cope, you must be a saint! If you are having difficulty without DP around, maybe talk to your CHN about support options that might be available (eg Silver Chain, Red Cross, etc). They might be able to send a vollie around to give you some assistance.

June78 - I think charting is great. It allows you to see patterns that you don't normally notice. It means that I know if I have a late night, then I wont get any sleep. It is easier just to go to bed earlier, than to pray that Caden will sleep more. I think he is doing much better now, and seems so much happier when he is awake! So glad he doesn't have reflux or anything, he just needed his sleep :D

Well, all is heaps better here (still touching wood and pinching myself). As soon as I see those tired signs, off to bed. He is so consistent, once my hours up, thats it! I pop him in his cot and he will grumble for about 10 minutes but will fall asleep. NO rocking, NO tantrums, and NO over-tiredness. I think he is so clever, to be able to put himself to sleep. They really are such marvellous creatures aren't they?

Better be off and mop the floors. Yay...

Well so glad its been a little cooler here!! lol...poor lil thing still getting all sweaty everytime I feed or cuddle her e- have to put a musy around her so she doesnt stick to me!! But shes coping SO well! They really are very resilient.

Picked up a flyer about a 1st time mums group/ seminar thing at the med centre yesterday...got to talk to the CHN next week about it. Have my antenatal class "reunion" this Sunday too, so thatll be interesting...just always been a bit shy like you June! Baby is good excuse to meet people though! Most of my friends over here are in Perth and are Chefs, so catching up with them always proves to be difficult - wont drive up there with charlotte in this heat...but hat should get easier as she gets a lil bigger i hope!

Charlotte got weighed and measured yesterday and is up to 4.3Kg (3.788 @ birth) and 56cm YAY! lol and been sleeping really well the last couple of nights...she was awake from 3 - 5.30 this morning, but was happy to occupy herself looking at her fist and MooMan (her stuffed cow - fav toy) So we slept in this morning, but she just seems to do her own thing...she doesnt need me already!! (except for food) lol

Got onto the FlyLady website too...lol - shined my sink at 4am and feeling very good about myself! I think itll be good for us...keep me on the straight and narrow. With DP away all th time, its hard to be motivated to keep that place looking good - he isnt here to see it! lmao Clean like mad the Wednesday I pick him up!

Charlottes footprints are all done now! Did them in some non-toxic paint - i was just stressing about it cos they had to go straight onto her Birth certificate and I didnt want to screw it up by myself! But, she was all snoozy yesterday so i just sponged the paint on and held her foot and *sploge!* before she knew what was going on and had time to curl her toes! Turned out pretty good, the second one was a lil smudged cos she was on to me by then...hehehe all done though!

Dragonbub - really glad to hear the lil man is much happier - well done on the sleeping thing - so nice when they can settle themselves! Hope it all continues!

Well, gotta go do a 27 Fling Boogie! lmao

Hey girls – Im back!

I must say how excited I am to see so many new posts and a few new girls joining in since I’ve been away!! It can be a bit quiet in here.

This is gonna be a long post so grab a cuppa – I’ve been without a computer for over a week!!

Wow, sounds like none of us are really having a dream run here are we? LOL. But we just need to remember that our babies are still very young and as Hoody and I have said about 1,000,000 times, it does get better (Hoody – who we trying to convince, them or us?? LOL!)

As much as I’d like to say I had a great holiday, um – I can’t! Was pretty much the complete opposite of what a holiday should be! Was great spending time with my parents and DD had a ball but DS didn’t sleep very well and DD had a few sleeping issues too (just a different environment and didn’t want to go to sleep in a strange room) so it was pretty stressful for me trying to do it all on my own without DH there. Worst NYE of my life with two unsettled kids who wouldn’t go to sleep!!

Mum and dad were a big help but mainly helped out with DD while I spent most days trying to get DS to sleep!!

We had a few good days, had a day of shopping, went to the beach etc and his nights were pretty good but he just can’t work out how to resettle himself when he wakes up during a sleep and I feel like I’m doing everything I know how to do and it’s just not making any difference. I know I shouldn’t expect to see a huge improvement until around 12 weeks apparently when they are much more able to self settle, but it’s such hard work and most days I end up completely stressed out by the end of the day.

Generally his first sleep of the morning is very short, he wakes after 40 mins and generally I can’t settle him back down. After about 30 mins of trying I get him up until his feed (which is usually 20-30 mins later), feed him, leave him for 10 mins or so and then put him back to bed. So this totally blows the whole feed, play, sleep thingo but I just cannot get him to go back to sleep!

Sleeps for the rest of the day are a bit hit and miss, sometimes I can resettle him after he wakes 40 mins into his sleep, sometimes I can’t. I’m guaranteed one good sleep of 2-3 hours, usually in the middle of the day but the others are a bit yuck. I’ve averaged it out and he sleeps for about 5 hours total during the day and about 10 (still doing 4hrs, feed, 3hrs, feed, 3hrs) at night, which is about right for his age (15 hours in 24 at this stage apparently) but his day sleeps definitely need some improvement.

Our CHN is back on Tuesday so I’m going to see her to get a referral to Tresillian (sleep school). I think what I might be doing wrong is not allowing him to put himself to sleep because in the beginning that will mean him crying and I just can’t stand to let him cry when he is still so little so I go into him straight away. I can feel that I’m almost ready to let him have a bit of whinge so am working on that today before I go into him.

The heat has been killing us too, it is sooo humid over here. DS is never in much more than a singlet and nappy or just a nappy. He has a horrid heat rash over his face and under his neck where his double chin hangs! LOL!!

OK, will do a pathetic attempt at personals but apologise for anyone I miss…

Dragonbub – have been wondering how your day stay at Ngala went and matey, I am soooo thrilled that you’ve seen such a huge improvement in Caden!! Well done. We never saw a huge overnight improvement with DD, it was a gradual process that eventually worked, so I’m not expecting miracles with DS, but I’m confident that these same techniques will help us. I think I just need a refresher, I’ve kinda lost perspective now I think! Sounds like Caden was probably just overtired a lot of the time which is why he was grumpy? Luckily DS must be getting just enough sleep because when he is awake he is so happy, smiling and talking and very content.

Hoody – sorry Molly has been so unsettled for you! I hope she improves soon, it tends to wear you down after a while. I’m glad DD1 has settled down, she’s probably getting used to the new routine and Molly being around.

EJE – I hope your DS has settled a little (man, I'm starting to hate that word 'settled'...'unsettled'...'resettle'!!!). It is hard having them stuck to you all day and before you know it you are exhausted. Same thing happened here. I just got to the point at about 3 weeks where I knew I couldn’t do it anymore so I just put him in his cot in a darkened room and settled him in there by gently rocking him, waiting for him to get heavy in my arms then putting him down in his cot. He did cry but then I would settle him without picking him up by patting, stroking his face etc. We haven’t had a day since where he needs to be held to sleep etc but I’m not sure if that worked, if he improved with age, or if its because that’s when we started taking him to his chiro. Do you wrap him when you put him down? This works miracles for some babies who aren't wrapped. It sounds like your little boy is like mine and likes lots of cuddles and to feel secure, so this could really help if you're not already doing it.

Suse and Limeslice – I agree about the weight gain, I wouldn’t be worried about it. Every bub is different, my DD took forever to gain weight, was very lean and petite and was never above the 50th percentile for her age for weight. She is still very lean. I b’fed her exclusively till 6 months when she started solids (and this didn’t make any difference to her weight gain by the way, she was still slow to gain it) and she didn’t wean till 16months when I had my m/c and was very ill in hospital. So as long as your bub is happy, is gaining weight (no matter if it’s not what they ‘should’ be gaining) has plenty of wet nappies etc then don’t let anyone convince you they need formula. If you think that supply might be an issue, then try to express to increase it, but generally it’s supply and demand, you will make what your baby needs.

Can’t remember who it was that said they were moving bub into another room but we did the same thing because he is so noisy! Every little grunt, groan, fart, would wake me up and I don’t think DH’s snoring was doing wonders for DS either :rolleyes:

Anyway, best be off. We’re approaching the 40 min mark for this sleep and no doubt he’ll wake up again. Sometimes I feel like I’m in resettling hell!!


***ETA: OMG, OMG, OMG - he's been asleep for nearly two hours and I haven't had to go in to him??!! I think he must have resettled himself!! Woohoo - clever little man. Not expecting too many repeat performances just yet though...

Dragonbub- I'm hearing you on the weather this last week has been gross. We had one day it got to 46 and it was YUK. We do have air con so are lucky but it makes it almost impossible to try and get out and i find it more hard work been stuck at home on my own with both girls. I'm so pleased that what you learned at ngala is working for you. Caden does sound very clever learning how to resettle- they are amazing arent they. Hopefully you will be ableto sit back and enjoy alot more of him now. How is your DP coping?

Limeslice- Shining your sink at 4am you must be mad- lmao. Glad you have looked into getting out etc it really is good for you. When i had my DD1 my CHN started a 1st time mums mothers group of all the babies born in our suburb within 8 weeks of eachother. We started off with about 20 of us and now almost 2 yrs later 10 of us still get together weekly and we have made some firm friendships. All of our kids are the same stages etc so we all have common ground. Its funny all but 2 of us have had 2nd babies or are pg. What i am trying to say is in the beginning it was hard to open up and become friends with these ladies as i was shy but having a child has made it easier.

Willow- Yay i knew youd be excited at how much the thread has grown. I was wondering if you'd be back soon- you were missed. Sorry to hear you had sleeping issues when away but we always have the same prob. I always find i need a holiday to recover from the holiday we've been on. If it makes you feel any better I had a yuk New Yr Eve also. Molly was extremely unsettled.

Well it looks like Molly is over the worst of her bug. Thank goodness i couldnt take another day of unsettled bubba. Yesterday she was quite a bit happier and today she has been a star. She has suddenly started having an extra feed during the night (and is also feeding more often in the day) but i can handle that as she settles straight after. I am assuming she is having a bit of a growth spurt as she is sleeping and feeding lots. Dh and i had a rough week (the roughest we've ever had as a couple) i guess when both tired it takes its toll on the relationship. I even had one morning i contemplated leaving! We've both realised its just the stress of adjusting to having 2 children and less time for eachother etc. so we have both been making more of an effort. I feel a little lost like i dont know who i am anymore apart from a wife and mother. I feel like i am been a little selfish for feeling that way but like i told DH i am looking after everybody else and no one is looking out for me iykwim. Well things still arent 100% between us but they are improving. Well sorry this turned into a long whinge i must have needed to get it off my chest.

hello, hello!
I love reading all the posts from you (even though I don't get a chance to post very often), it helps to know that we're not alone in our sleepless little world...

Paisley is doing much better during the day and having 2 good sleeps of about 2 hours each. She goes to bed at about 8ish and then wakes sometime between 1and 2 usually, feeds and then the drama begins. I did have a good night last night at she only took an hour to get back to sleep and then didn't wake again until 6.20 this morning. Usually she only wakes once overnight for a feed which I'm not complaining about, it's fantastic for a 6 weeks old bubba it's just the time it talkes me to get her back off to sleep which is the prob. I went to Tresillian when DS was 8 months old so I'm going to start sleep training with her in the next couple of weeks. I feel she's too young yet so I just cuddle and rock her to sleep and throw in the odd boobie too in really tough moments.

An odd thing she does is she won't sleep in her cot during the day. She'll sleep in her bouncer in the living room with no bother but will not settle in her cot. Night times no problems she'll stay in her cot but day times - no way! She'll be too big soon to sleep in the bouncer so that will need to change. Any ideas on convincing my precious princess that her cot is a good spot for a daytime snooze?

My MIL is going home on Wednesday so I'll be flying solo from then with my two little terrors. My DH works long hours and isn't usually hom until 7pm so it's a long day on my own. I'm looking forward to playgroup getting back together already and I'm thinking about getting Ewan into a 3 hour permanent spot at day care. I don't want him there all day just a 3 hour play time to get him out of the house and playing with some more children, he's so full on I think the extra playtime will do him good.

I hope you are all doing well and bubs are starting to sleep better. I think the magic 6 week mark makes a big difference and most bubs get the hang of it a little better.