Babies Born September 2007 #27

Arte, thanks for your questions, trust me I've been over and over it in my head - I don't think there's any easy solution. I think what happened was she got out of her usual pattern when the teething started and hasn't worked out how to get back to it.
No, it started before solids so I know it's not that.
I don't think it's wind cos she's not arching/drawing her legs up. She actually keeps herself awake either fiddling with her fingers (I've tried giving her a little toy to fiddle with that works, sometimes) or she tosses her head back and forth from side to side. Last night she was soundly asleep, I stayed by the cot to make sure she was in a deep sleep, she then woke up at the barely audible sound of my bum easing off the stool (WTF??)
Definitely no change in diet, if anything it's been pretty constant from before then. You would expect other signs of upset, like vomiting, rashes, wind, etc.
She is swaddled, when her hands get out that's when the fiddling fingers start. I've tried putting her in half unswaddled and that didn't work at all
Yep was doing it before we moved her into her own room. That's why we moved her because we thought it might be our lights/movement/noises setting her off. The funny thing is she's quite happy in there during the daytime and will sleep well and wake up happy. No pattern at all. :(

Sorry everyone I feel like I'm consuming this thread with my dramas. So sorry everyone.

Leanne I hope you are feeling better soon. I need ot make an appt for my flu shot because I really couldn't cope with getting sick.

Hi Girls!

Geez MD, you're having it tough ATM. not that you need me to tell you that!! 4 hours is a really long time to be awake, even during the day. id be feeling pretty desperate right now (in all honesty i feel desperate after 20 mins in the middle of the night...). it does sound like there is something else going on. is she maybe feeling that DH isnt around and is reacting to this?? man, i dont know. have to agree with the other ladies...see the dr and check out if she is feeling ok. seems like you are on to that though. wish i could be there to help out. even if just to walk the halls with you at night! solidarity sista!

Hayley: We got hitched on the 29 of Feb this year. (yes a leap year, my DH is a cheap so and so and doesnt want to buy me pressies every year LOL!!). I have to say that your rant touched a few home truths with me as well. I am turning 25 tomorrow and it is a strange feeling to be married and have a baby. all my friends are still partying hard and travelling and living in divey cramped houses in central london, eating cold baked beans for brekkie, lunch and dinner, and a part of me is really missing that! Also, i get the 'holy cow, you're sooo young' line all the time. really annoying. a part of me also feels that i am missing the whole young person experience. sometimes it gets me down, but then i figure that hey, one day it will be their turn, and i would have been there done that!! and i'll smirk as they complain about sleepless nights...
it is really weird not being able to travel so freely anymore. we would go O/S at least twice a year (my DH is italian - so italy to visit rellos and friends). we are however determined to get back on the horse, so will head to italy soon (hopefully end of the year). we are also going to Fiji to catch up with friends and i need to do some research there...so we'll see. i guess though the type of travelling will be different!
i reckon just go for it. AND you can travel while pregnant! maybe not places like PNG where you have to take loads of anti malaria pills, but hey. i travelled to italy and ireland when i was 30 weeks pregnant and it worked. pretty uncomfortable on the plane, but the hostesses were awesome and i got loads of extras! LOL!
just do it babe! all it takes is a big leap forward. we are planning on moving O/S in a couple of years, if not sooner, and i look forward to it and i look forward in showing my girl the wonders of the world. friends of mine travelled to China with their 4 month old baby and lived there for a year. they said it was great and the boys first words were in Cantonese!!! great stuff!

Arte: I love the photo with the dog...they definitely get their own back!! LOL! our dog stella usually just tries to lick the camera. so yeah no happy family shots together....
that's a tough situation not having MACH support. although here in melbourne is quite poor compared to canberra. here you basically only get to see someone for 10 mins every 2-3 months. so yeah, not great. in canberra they have a drop in system that seemed to work quite well. i guess that's what you get for living in the 'nations capital' LOL! and no finger foods until 9 months!! egad, we would sooo get bad parent of the year award! leila loves finger foods!!
bummer about the mums as well. all i can say is hang in there and maybe be really proactive with them. that is what i had to do when i moved to melbourne. all the mums were really shy and we would all kind of timidly walk away from group or when we would bump into eachother it was also just a passing hello. so one day i was like 'stuff it', there is NO way i am going home so early, i need a coffee and a conversation with other sleep deprived mums! so i told them that i was going for coffee and asked if any wanted to join me...since then we have been hanging out with eachother almost everyday!! of course not everyone everytime, but still loads of fun, especially exploring mums and bubs sessions at the movies!!

well we had a first night in AGES that could be termed a sleep through. leila woke at 1am but i refused to feed her, so i just slotted her back into place (found her bunched up the corner of her cot...) and left. and it worked!! then she woke for a grizzle at 3am (no doubt a poo), but i left her to it and within 10 mins she was gone again and then she woke properly at 7am!!! woo hoo feel like celebrating!
although today she has a bit of runny poo action, so not sure if i should be concerned yet....hmmmm.

anyway raging outta control as usual, take care all!

Hi MD, sorry i posted just before your last...

we used to swaddle leila as well (doing the half one) but i found that it distracted her too much. and then when she became really mobile the act of turning herself over while she was sleeping would wake her too much. and she started the midnight shennanigans, so then i moved to sleep suits and against all MACH nurse advice I put her on her belly (she would roll over on her own anyway, so figured i would save her the bother). it seemed to really work with her...
but yeah, you're right it's probably just recovery from the teething upsets...i found that leila took ages to recover from the wedding stuff.

cassius - runny poo can be a teething symptom wouldnt be worried
md - dont be sorry i cant believe you are still awake enough to jump on and update us.. i really dont have any words of advice just a big :hug: and a sympathetic ear when u need it (or eyes in this case i spose lol)
leanne - ahhh not the flue!!! never good hope u all get better asap
arte - love the pic classic!!! eeep no finger foods lol Asha loves finger foods i think they discourage it because it makes some people lazy iykwim if they dont have to feed them they can just give them something and walk away and do something else when in fact supervision is important..
cally - have u tried custard or rice pudding or something if ur looking for something desserty?? yoghurt is messy but wait till u try pasta!!
haley - i know EXACTLY how u feel i'm 22 as well and even though asha was planned those comments always get to me too...

MD, another flimsy suggestion: Would she sleep better at night if you don't let her have an afternoon nap? Or would you just have a grumpy bum all evening and still be up half the night?

Cas, Happy Birthday for tomorrow! 25 is the good insurance birthday, you get lower rates now because you are out of the 'irresponsible youth' category. I am 26 next week.

I took the dog pic off, didn't realise that they go into a newly added folder that everyone can see lol. Thought it was a bit questionable and didn't want to get told off.

MD, another even flimsier suggestion: would mittens stop the finger fiddling?

Well, W has been in bed for 1.5 hours and has woken twice already so I doubt that my wish of a decent sleep is happening tonight lol I guess good things take time.

Noni - weren't really trying the yogurt as dessert, more just introducing dairy. She had some grated cheese in her vegies last night and that was good.

Arte - great photo! What a shame about not having MACH nurses and no sleep school!!

Claire - happy birthday for tomorrow!

MD - They won't let you swaddle at QE2 after 4 months because of the risk of bubs getting caught up in it. Also no toys (our giraffes are back up on the shelf, although I have pulled one out when I was desperate one night!) Don't worry about consuming the thread, that's what we're all here for!

Leanne - oh no, not the flu!! DH had his injection last week and had a reaction to it. Fingers crossed I don't get anything this year. Hope you all recover quickly.

Well we had a bit of a shocker last night (by our standards). Woke at 3 (had already been fed at 12), asleep by 4, then only did those annoying 10-15 minute naps 3 times before falling asleep properly. Then stirred after 45 minutes, I got up, but she had dropped back to sleep by the time I got to her room. Then awake at 6:20. Was feeling pretty wrecked this morning, but at least I got a morning nap in and am amazed at how well I feel. MD, when you do go to sleep school, find out how long you have to perservere with the responsive settling before resorting to just sitting next to her. She was settling the moment I appeared in her room, only to start crying the moment I rose from the chair. Very frustrating.

lost my post. :( here's a much shorter version of what i'd typed out earlier.

leeann, hope the whole family recovers soon.

claire, happy birthday for tomorrow.

md, hope E settles better tonight. :pray: remember that we're here for you as you've been there for us for almost a year now for me (and more than a year for some others)

arte, W's just gorgeous!

on sleeping, i've been quiet about it coz' i was lucky that max was still waking up 1x (at 4am) or 2x (12mn and 4-5am) for feed and a few stirs but not waking. until the other night when she was up every hour or so. finished the night with her sleeping on me so that i could get some zzzz's. guess it really must just be their age. wonder week/s?

advice please.....any suggestions on baby proofing the cot? max keeps banging her head on the rails all around the cot (and playpen) when she stands and when she loses balance while sitting. am worried about her doing serious head injury and wondered what everyone else has done to keep the little ones safe.

Hi Girls,

Fianne- I usually put pillows around Olivia.
Claire_:happybirthday: Have a wonderful day.
Hayley- Sorry I dont know what to say to help. I didnt meet my DH till I was 25 got married at 27 and had our first babies at 32. I think you are a wonderful mother and I am sure that will get married when you are ready and travel.
MD- Dont be sorry at all. Thats what we are here for. Please dont ever be sorry. :hug:

Well I still feel like **** but on the up side everyone stayed in there own beds for a change.

Have a wonderful day to all .

hi all a quick post from me while i am at work - just wanted to pop on and wish Clare a VERY HAPPY BIRTHDAY! Hope you have a fab day hon!

Hi everyone
just wanted to pop in quickly and say hi, and let you know i've been thinking about you all, just haven't had time to log on.
Will have to read back some time and catch up on everyone's goss.
Happy Birthday to Clare!!!! I hope you're having a lovely day. :)
My littlest princess is 8 months old today!!!!!! She's growing up so fast. Did the poo from hell this morning - just as i was ready to head out of the door for the school run. she needed a bath and the high chair needed one too.
anyway, catch up with you all later.

:happybirthday: to Clare - hope you have a lovely day :cheer:!

LOL Jazmum about the megapoo just before the school run - we've had a few of those but I haven't yet had to wash the high chair :lol:

Another hellish night here, I dared to dream we had turned a corner because E hadn't got up at 11, but then she started at 1.00am and continued until 4.30 (!) She got up again at 5.30 for another hour (!) OMG I think it is safe to say I have exhausted my bag of tricks, I'm right out there in "nothing I do is working" land. I'm gonna slap the first MACH nurse who tells me to pat my baby to sleep at the sleep seminar. On the upside I have discovered that i have extraordinarily good night vision after I've been awake for 3 hours, I reckon I could spot a Taliban ambush at 3 kms with these peepers. :P

Just a quick one from me - so much to catch up on - we went away for a few days and only got back last night.

Marydean, I really feel for you hun and I wish there was something I could do to help you out. Maybe now that school has gone back you can get some day sleeps in while Miss Betty is sleeping, seeing as how she sleeps good during the day? Bugger the housework - you aren't any good to anyone while you are like this so you need to just let it go for a day or two and try to catch up before you completely burn out.

Everyone is fine here - it finally rained so sowing is underway now and A is now the poster child for velcro babies. If his two top teeth would just come through he would be fine. I have never seen gums so big and red and swollen before - the other kids were never like this. So sleep in this house is up ****ter's ditch LOL.

Sherie, Velcro baby = clingy?? Teeth, just hatch already!

Yup MD - velcro = clingy. I can hardly do anything during the day without him being right behind me either crying, wanting to be picked up, or if I stand still for long enough he grabs hold of my legs and pulls himself up so I can pick him up.

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Glad to know you haven't lost your sense of humour even though you're so sleep deprived! When does DH get back? Sorry the doctor couldn't get you straight into QE2, seems silly to have such strict rules for Canberra residents when us NSW'ers can get in so much easier!

Sherie - K goes through stages of clinginess. When she's just woken up, I can't even go to the toilet without her crying, she's right after about 15 minutes but I'm not looking forward to full time clinginess! Yay for the rain!

hi lovelies
just a quick one from me, been busy busy busy last few days with relatives from sydney here.
lewis has been a nightmare for a few days and then last night i noticed he has two new teeth up the top. not the front 2 teeth but the ones next to them. poor little man has been so clingy and last night would basically only sleep with my friggen nipple in his mouth! he would be fully asleep snoring and so i would gently try to remove the nipple and sneak back to watching big brother and he would start screaming! ggrrr nightmare
hope everyone is having a good day xoxo

hi everyone just popping on quickly to send **calm sleepy vibes** to all those bubs who sound like they need it atm!!!

Noni, thank you so much for the sleepy vibes, Will slept from 11pm until 4.30am! It is the longest sleep we have had for 4 months! I hope I didn't steal them all though and there was some left over for the other bubs.

MD, how was your night? Hope Noni's sleepy vibes found their way to you too.

Gracie, we have had the nipple in mouth all night a couple of times. It is very uncomfortable. W did it when he was getting a tooth, hope he settles down again soon for you.

Sherie, sending A some toothy vibes

JaZmum, good to see you. 8 months already, I can't believe it! I remember very clearly logging in each morning waiting to see if anyone had popped overnight.

Leemar, hope everyone at your house is feeling better

Renee, how is everything going?

Every morning when we get out of bed W walks me over to his little lawnmower, so we get it out and I help him push it across the room a couple of times, then he dumps it and we go down the hall to check if the bath is still there. It is so cute.

This morning he can stand for at least 10 seconds completely unassisted.