Babies Born ~ March 16th-31st 2011 #5

EM: yes i had my contraceptive councelling, so fun that was! she read the letter from my doctor, looked over my file (as i had ds1 there) and said straight out no they will not do my tubes as im only 23 blah blah, could sue as i have a good 20+ years of reproduction ahead, she spent 2 hrs talking non stop about the iud's, and basicaly made me think i had no choice but the merina, even tho i expressed my concern over having bad reactions to the hormones in implanon and the depvo.
if i get any form of side effects from the hormones in the merina, im to wait it out for 6-7 months and if they havent dissapeard by then they will "disscuss" removing it. she is convinced it will work as its "99% effective" yup, thats what they said with implanon! if you want it, get a info sheet from them and read it. they didnt give me jack, only if i start a heavy bleed go to emergency, google is not my friend at the moment!!

oh never have kids at a contraceptive appointment either... S was ment to be watching the girls but snuk arround the curtain, had to walk threw the packed waiting room with a 5yo asking why i was on the bed and what was the doctors doing! :redface: yup try explaing that one!!

Jaki, good luck Wee man! hope he has porked out for you!! ive got to get A checked, i know she has goten longer but she is still a skinny little thing!

Kylz, with the pre made food what ones are you using? my kids hated the hinez after 2 months of solids.
A has the taste for coffee, df dips her dummy in the foam on top sometimes, well now i cant have one with her near as she tries to rip it from my hand!

Jenna, poor kiddies, the last month there has been one or 2 sick at all times here. now its brendan, he was sent home from work yesterday, and told to be back wensday and 100% better, :lol: cant see that happening, he lost his voice today. man flu, BAH!

Allyssa still isnt trying to roll or sit up. she is quiet happy were ever you "plop" her providing the other 3 leave her alone when she wants them to! to be honest im happy for her to take as long as she needs, i kind of WANT her to stay my baby forever, but i know she has to do these things eventualy :( im trying to hold onto the baby-ness i think.. the older 3 didnt seem to be babies for long, they were trying to set reccords for hitting milestones i swear!

Sarah I've been giving him aldi brand and loves it also the only organic apple custard and also their pear and rice cereal. Love that he likes the cheap ones. Aldi ones cost $1.49

argh, i think i have a growth spurt going on - all jack has done this arvo is feed n sleep

kitty - how did dh go with the job

jaki - how did wyatt go today??

lou - i haven't got af back, with luke i didn't get it back till after i stopped bf him so hoping the same

hi to everyone else - sorry i didn't reply to everyone that is all i could remember for now - just busy busy at the moment

Well we didn't hit the 6kgs as I'd hoped :(
He has gained tho and we are close at 5950g.

As for af I've been totally ripped off. Full time BFing and I get it like clockwork. Bites the big one!

I got AF like 6 weeks after birth, and then about 3 weeks after that I got it for 3 days and then I haven't seen it since lol. Maybe the BFing finally scared it away :)

Chase is loving his solids. I'm not loving his chunky little nugget poos though...so far he has had rice cereal and sweet potato, and rice cereal and pear; I just mash up a whole load of both and freeze them and take out as needed. I have pumpkin at the ready once he has finished his sweet potato and pear. Wonder if solids is the reason chase is becoming hard to put to bed again...nope spoke to soon lol just walked in there and gave him a nice pat on the leg and he quietened down and went to sleep :) he also likes teething rusks, likes to hold them himself and everything and gets water out of his sippy cup if i hold it for him hehe.

sarah: Chase has no interest in rolling either. He has no interest being on his belly no matter how many toys I put in front of him, he's stubborn :)

jaki: thats close enough to 6kg :) wooo Wyatt

iona: Haven't heard back about DH's job yet, still waiting nervously. DH is all relaxed though, he thinks he got the job but im always more on the cautious side as in you dont got it until the guy calls you and tells you that you got it.

And if I missed anyone, hope you are doing well.

Jaki - close enough :) Go Wyatt!

Sarah - Hubby doesn't seem to get sick, unless his hayfever is playing up and then he gets constant sinus infections :(
We won't b making it up to dandenong on tuesday now, hubby is taking us to Sale early in the morning so he can do his tax return and doesn't want to go anywhere else after that :( We'll have to organise a joint birthday lunch for the fortnight after that when I get paid again and hubby has a day off :) It will be closer to your birthday then anyway lol

Kylz - Blegh to AF :(

afm - AF turned up tonight, blegh, been b*tchy and hormonal for 2 weeks now, was expecting AF to turn up a week ago when I got crampy and bloated, but nooo, it had to turn up today. Pffffft!

its a deal JJ! just let me know closer my mind is worse then preggy brain.

with AF, i think i got mine today, but not sure if it is or if its just from the merina... :dunno: NFI.

Jaki, oh thats so close! 50g and he will hit it! go Wyatt.

Kylz, i hope he stays liking the cheep food! i tell you the older boys get the more they turn into bottomless pits!

Kitty, i put Allyssa on the floor today, with a towel rolled up under her chest, the feral puked on the blakie and tried to eat it :sick: shes a feral, just like the others..

just want to go to bed but miss K is up, flapping like a fish out of water on my knee... guess i thought wrong when i put her to bed at 9:rolleyes:

ETA: were over the 4 month mark :o OMG it seems like so long ago, yet only yesterday... wierd...

Just been and had my chuncker weighed and buck naked he is 8.22kg. His length is still 65 but head has grown 1/2cm to 42.5cm

going to try taking the thickener out of his formula and see what happens. The MCHN (a nice and helpful one today) said he is getting too full. She also told me if he wakes in the early morning to try and just resettle without feeding to see if he has just got a belly ache.

Since I started him on solids he has started waking at about 330-4am again. Any ideas?

Thanks Sarah :) that is so useless of them though! I understand they don't want to do anything permanent but they could have given you more info to make an informed decision!
Jaki yaay he is so close! Id take that as 6, maybe he just did a wee or something lol.
Hi Tams if you're out there!!! Hope all is going well :) xx
Jj my hubby gets bad sinus and sinus infections. Feel so bad for him, but at the same time its do annoying all his sneezing and nose blowing wakes the girls lol.

kylz: my prob is getting C to go to bed. What time do you feed J for dinner?? Maybe he is going to bed too full and wakes up early with a tummy ache?? i don't feed C any solids after 5pm-6pm. I start putting C to bed 7.30pm and he cries so I go in there every so often and pat his bum, usually he just goes to sleep but lately just crying and crying its stressing me out. Right now he is crying but its that fake one that he does like he just needs to hear his own voice.

sarah: lol Most of the time Chase vomits in his mouth and then just swallows it back down. Cant waste any of that sour breast milky goodness lol tell me about it, chase is 3 weeks from being 6 months!!!!! wtf?? LOL

jenna: booo to AF im dreading mine coming back. ive gotten so used to not having it.

Got a letter from logan hosiptal today, they are doing a Special Care Development Group that I can take chase to and they will do a brief assessment of his progress and what to expect and what is 'normal' milestones etc Sounds like it will be good. im Working for Dh's dad again tomorrow. Dh's work today (even though they said he could keep working with them till he found another job) told him it was his last day and he has to give his van back tomorrow. They have paid out his holiday pay and everything already. He is now officially unemployed. He called the guy from the interview on Monday and he said he had called and spoken to one of his referees and was just going to call the other one tomorrow then call DH to let him know. bleh so over this.

I feed him at same time kitty he has solids at 5 then a bath the a bottle about 7 then is generally asleep by 730-8 but as I type this is still semi conscious in the bouncer

I've just been to the gym and my body is aching already lol tomorrow is going to be a killer

How did you girls know they were ready for solids? I was pretty determined not to start til 6 months but I have no idea how I will hold her off that long!! When we eat she stares at the food and watches us chew then copies. And today she was in the trolley and tried to take a piece of cheese out of ellas hand!! Have to watch them like a hawk now!! Meanwhile on an unrelated topic Chloe hasn't pooed since Saturday, its going to be epic lol

lou - oh no maybe put her on the grass tomorrow with no nappy on while we're at the park lol

Lol good idea! I even put a brand new pretty mcn on her and still nothing! That always gets a giant sh*t lol

I don't know Lou J was doing same thing now he guzzles food

Geezo Wyatt is still such a baby baby, I can't even imagine giving him real food. I still don't even know how I want to go about it. BLS does appeal to me in some ways but every person at clinic and the baby nutritionist that came to mothers group say they don't recommend it.
They say 2 teaspoons at a time from 6 months. I'm sure once the time comes instincts will kick in and we will figure it out!

So.... Where are everyone bubs sleeping?
Wyatt is just about too tall for his basinette and I'm not ready to put him out of our room. We are picking up a Portacot tomoz so might use that. I would co sleep but I'm so paranoid about killing him! Plus when Stephen is home and W would have to sleep on the outside I'd have to hold him but all my bones ache so I toss and turn all night :( it kills me to lay still for the couple of hours we do co-sleep in the morning.

2 teaspoons hahahaha who are they kidding..... Or am I over feeding my kid lol

Bottles just weren't filling him up. The mchn told me yesterday that was a good time to start cause they get more nutrition from food than just formula. He has veg and then some fruit after if still hungry.

Dunno, I spose you'd notice if they weren't fitting it in. Is he showing interest in the food till it's finished? I don't imagine your force feeding him ;)

kylz - i'm sure j would let you know if he was full

jaki - i still have jack co-sleeping with me at night but am gradually putting him in his cot during the day when i'm home

afm - well ummm i think i have a teething baby....there is a nice lil lump on his bottom gum and he loved having one of his cold teething toys and is unsettled, so will need to get some bonjela tomorrow. It's way too early for this he's only 15 weeks :(

Kylz, you wouldnt be overfeeding him, they chuck up what they dont need, and if he wasnt hungry he wouldnt take it!

Jaki, Allyssa only slept in her bassinett for a week. she sleeps with me at night, during the day she is either in the sling, pram, rocker, couch or a blankiee on the floor! depending were we are, what im doing and more importantly who else is arround being a pest! (usualy Krystal or the dog!:)

i dont think im going to go out with her dressed "nutral" anymore all these old people were telling my how cute my baby boy looked :(

H man has been sleeping in his cot in our room for months now - he grew out of his bassinett at less than 2 months!

Bella slept in our room till she was 1.5 and H man will be sleeping in there till we build a new house coz we font have enough room in this one!

jaki: Chase is still in his bassinet :) don't know what i would do if I didn't hear his grunting at night LOL He still fits in there though so Im gonna let him stay there, see if he can fit in there all winter before I kick him out.

Chase would have a fit if I only gave him two teaspoons lol

sarah: i have people always ask me if Chase is a boy or a girl so I must dress him to look androgenous hahaha There's no way A looks like a boy, just had to look up photos of her on fb (we weren't friends so i sent a request but could see some on your profile :))

iona: aargh Jack slow down lol teething already sheesh.

lou: I always said I wasn't going to start until maybe 5 1/2 months with solids and just rice cereal but one day Chase was watching me eating breakfast and then copying me then he got frustrated and starting whining so I jokingly put my toast towards his mouth and he got excited and tried to eat it. I thought he was having a laugh so I was like, ok lets see how excited you really are about eating and made up the tiniest bit of rice cereal, like not even a tablespoon of water and a tiny bit of cereal. And he ate it....and then he wanted more... the bad news is no more multpiple days without poo, now he does a couple of nuggets a day LOL betcha Chloe is going to have a nice one tomorrow :)

Kylz: you can't overfeed, J will just refuse it when he doesn't want anymore. I know Chase is over it when I put it in his mouth and then he uses his tongue to just push it all back out. And when he hasn't had enough he tells me cos when I put the bowl down on the table and say all done he starts to cry LOL

kate: H man is such a little tank :) Wish we could put all the kiddies side by side and see how diff they all are.

Chase bit me yesterday when I was feeding him, not once, not twice but thrice. I thought maybe he didn't like the side or it was out of milk so I swapped him to the other side and the little so and so bit me again. So i evicted him from the boob and served him his pear, rice cereal and water and he was so happy with himself he fell asleep. I thought that was the end of the biting saga. Then this afternoon he starts biting me again, really clamping down on my nipple. Why Chase why!! It hurts me so bad. Is there a reason he has decided that biting my nipple is fun??? Anyone?

Kylz - Tank! I like it! :)

I'm not sure kitty, teeth? Do they do that when teething?

Thanks for your replies all. 2 more questions....
Basinette... How close can their heads be to the top before it's a SIDS risk?
Co-sleepers... What's your co sleeping set up? ie- Bub in middle or edge? Do you hold Bub or leave them free? What do you dress them in? Wrapped? Do you share blanket or have them uncovered?

Jaki - I have jack in an fleecy onesie. He is normally in the middle and it depends on what way I'm sleeping if i'm cuddling him and he goes under our doona

Kitty - I'm not sure about the chomping hopefully he stops for u. How did dh go with the job??

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Kitty, my guess is he's chomping because he's starting to get used to the solids and how his mouth has to move to get those down rather than how it moves while having milk? Just a guess though :)

Amelia doesn't have a set spot in the bed - if I'm feeding her on the left, she's on the outside edge of the bed, if I'm feeding on the right she's in the middle. I do tend to cuddle her as we sleep, but sometimes one or both of us don't like that so we'll have a little distance between us...


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See I just worry cause I'd have to put him below our pillows, but cause it's winter we have the doona tucked up under our chins so he would literally be under the doona, like all of him!

Teni are you's off the shield now? I could never use that thing laying down!

jaki - i have jack on my pillow - it helped with his silent reflux and so much easier to cuddle him

I never used shields - I think you're thinking of someone else :) I did consider using them when it was so painful at the start, but never actually did it. I can't remember if I said anything or not...

Jaki, i have A sleeping on the side, I use to have her head sort of on my arm/shoulder, cuddling her, but the last few nights ive given her her own space on the side and slept a little away from her, since doing that she has not woken during the night.
With blankets, as she is on the side, i put them over me then fold them under so they come to over her chest and not her face. I also have my pillow on a angle so it is away from her head. positive im doing it wrong, but it works for us

I think i need to reset my baby, it is 11 and... SHE IS STILL ASLEEP!! i had to wake her up this time yesterday so we could do the daycare run! That is 11 hrs straight.
I swaped her bottles over to the larger ones, so she is having 180/240ml in one hit instead of 2x12ml /10 mins apart. I dont have a problem with her sleeping so much, Its the staying up untill midnight playing!!

How do you Ladies feel about babies and tv?
Allyssa loves it, if it is on she will twist and squirm in your arms untill its in her vision and then its a stare off.. She was upset yesterday arvo did not want a bottle, did not want the floor, didnt need a change or burp, I put her on her rug, she stoped crying after a few mins. when I went back to the loungeroom, she had squirmed off her rug, onto the cold floor :) (shes never moved so far on her own!) but was all happy as she could see the tv! :o

Hun J is the same so I leave him. If it mean I can get stuff done then I dont see the harm.

Wyatt loves the tv. It's just the noise and shapes and moving colours :)

Teni- I just looked at my thread that made me think you were using a shield, my bad, obviously I was skimming ;)

Chloe loves looking at the tv, or my phone, or any light really lol. Jaki do you still have to use the shield?

Nope :D
We got off it part time at 10 weeks and have been full time since 12 weeks! So proud of the wee man!

Oh yay!! You should be proud of yourself too!! What a pain in the ass the shield must have been.

jaki: I only leave Chase co-sleeping with me when DH has left to go to work cos Dh is such a heavy sleeper I worry that he will just roll on Chase without realising if i squash Chase between us. So Chase is in his thin onesie inside a long sleeved sack and he sleeps on DH's side with the thin doona cover on him that we both share. On the weekend if Chase falls asleep while I am BFing him on my side I just get up and leave him there and go sleep in the spare room :)
With the bassinett I didn't even know having their head close to the top of the bassinet was a SIDS risk, I always put chase as high as he can go in the bassinet because in the middle of the night he wiggles his way down to the bottom (I have a towel under the mattress to keep it angled). He doesn't really sleep with a blanket because I put him in the sack and we have the heater on low heat all night. There is a blanket in there but its more comfort for him and he kicks it off anyway by morning.

sarah: I hardly ever let Chase watch TV and its not because I think its bad or anything, I don't have any other kids and hate housework so when he is awake I just play with him constantly lol. Its actually probably bad for me to do that cos he will get used to me being all up in his grill all the time. But he is obsessed with my phone if I try and use it while I am BFing, he pauses feeding to watch it :) At my mums house all Chase does is watch TV and he looks like a little zombie just sitting on their couch staring at the TV. But he loves it, the colours and sounds.

teni: he hasn't bit me today, when he has its been at the end of a feed, so he has no problem feeding straight away. Maybe I leave him on there too long now and he gets bored and decides to chomp, ill keep an eye on it and see when he gets bite crazy.

iona: DH called the guy today and he said the references checked out so HR will call DH next week to arrange him to come in for a medical and then he can start working. So im guessing DH has the job, just weird it too the guy so long to actually respond, but yay for the job. Once he is actually at work on a job site i will breathe easier :)

lou: any poo yet??? or is Chloe still brewing??? LOL

think i am getting AF...I was so excited that I didn't have it anymore and now its back...boooo

Well I'm not sure... I just know in the hospy they tell you to put the baby at the bottom of the plastic crib, and all the safe sleep pamphlets say to put them at the base of the cot so I presumed same would apply to basinette.

Congrats on dh job, fx it works out. Did you get the nightfill job?

Hi guys, been reading along with you all...

Jaki - re the bottom of the crib thing, im pretty sure it's so they can't wriggle down in the night and become covered in sheets/blankets etc. Also they need to have air circulating around their heads, so if they are right up the top it doesn't circulate much, itms.
We cosleep early mornings... Usually I hold her.
With MJ, we used a sleeping bag and had her up high between our pullout so she was out of our way and not covered by our doona...
Kitty, DH is a really heavy sleeper now, which is why Miss A doesn't come in often.

Re the biting, I remember this, it was horrid :(... With MJ I use to take her off and that would be the end of the feed, she figured out pretty quick not to do it.... Think it started around 6 months... A hasn't started, but I am dreading

Hi to everyone else :)


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Eek not looking forward to the biting!!!
Yay for DH job kitty :) and Chloe is still brewing ewwww its going to be hardcore, no doubt while I'm doing groceries today lol. It's been a week today. How long did chase go that time? Surely it would be uncomfortable to not poo for that long?! She doesn't seem to be in any discomfort though.....
Jak if Chloe is in with us I usually hold her in the crook of my arm, and she is on top of our doona with her own swaddle thingy on with a wondersuit underneath. If in her basinette she has a side sleeper thing then after I pop her in I tuck a blanket down the sides so she can't startle awake. Now she rolls back to tummy I'm too scared to swaddle her properly in case she rolls on her tummy and gets stuck cos she can't get her arms out. I sleep her feet down the bottom. Oh and we have the heater on 18 degrees. Hope that makes sense lol.

lou: Chase was fine when he was holding back his poos, i think its worse for him now that he is pooing everyday lol the paed I saw told me it was normal for BF babies to take a few days (or more) to poo. Chase's record was 2 weeks, lets see what Chloe goes for hahaha

jaki: oh yeah, I'd probably put him closer to the bottom if he had a blanket so that he didn't wiggle under it but because he sleeps in a sack I just put him as high up as I can, but just leaving a little space at the top. Haven't heard back about the night jobs I applied for :( never thought i'd say this but apparently im not good enough to work at maccas or woolies hahahaha I like working at FIL's clothes shop, its just the finding someone to watch Chase for one day and having to express milk before the day that is a PITA.

sammie: oh good I've been taking him off whenever he bites but I've worked out he only does it when he is overtired and at the end of a feed, so he just gets grumpy and munches on me so I'll be keeping an eye on that. I almost cringe when I go to feed him now wondering if this will be the time he bites me again LOL

just came back from cirque du soleil, that **** was awesome!!! I had Chase and my best friend had her 1.5 year old and Chase pretty much slept, watched the show, slept again, woke up and chucked a narnar in the interval, then back to sleep, then watched the show. I think im finally ready for a mummy and me movie session hehehe