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Levi has his days and nights back to front. That and the wind we are all tired here. Sounds like some of you are having a rough time hugs xx
When I get time on the big computer I'll add a photo of the 3 of us.
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Still here.
Levi has his days and nights back to front. That and the wind we are all tired here. Sounds like some of you are having a rough time hugs xx
When I get time on the big computer I'll add a photo of the 3 of us.
Well looks like this feed I figured it out. Looks like my flow is slowing again and I don't know why its decreasing again. I haven't changed anything aside from no pumping after feeds so I'm going to go back to that for now.
Looks like I will have to mix feed full time but at least she is getting some of my milk. She is also going to get the EBM I get from pumping.
Dissapointing but better than nothing I guess. She is way more settled tonight. I guess my supply was dropping the last few days. Can't say I haven't tried, my husband said he wishes he had a mum like me cause I try so hard .. naw. I still feel like I have let her down but at least I can move forwards and stop stressing now.
Awww hun....your husband is spot on. You are an awesome mummy and Lilly is lucky to have you :)
Lolpigs I can relate to feeling disappointed, it's quite heart breaking when the most natural thing is so hard. My husband has said the same type of thing :)
Thanks for the support guys, I really appreciate it. It has been great the last 2 feeds. Pressure is off, Bubs spends time on the boob having special time with me, while Dad gets the formula. Once she has drained that she gets EBM or Formula whatever I have. She is WAY more settled and contented. I have gotten my happy bubba back :) We enjoyed our evening and even 4am feed with her so much she even giggled this morning!
I'm teaching her to mimic me opening my mouth (she already learnt to poke out her tounge from dad so we get that alot not too :lol:) so hopefully that will help her get the most out of the boob.
Do you think it is worthwile sticking with the NAN HA Gold? Seems ok for her so far, just have not much idea when it comes to Formula becuase I expected to be able to BF >.>
This is definatley the right decision for us as disspointing as not making enough milk is. Dan my husband has boggled at just how hard it is. He thought that it would be a little difficult but couldnt believe how much of a struggle it's been. Me either to be honest. I guess when it works its brilliant but when it dosent it is just awful. I am going to the LC again on monday just to work on attachment to make sure I am not doing something wrong that is easily fixed, but they said last time my attachment is good so not sure there.
Off to pump for my little munchkin :)
Lolpigs glad you have worked things out, and your DH is been so supportive.. Without supportive people I think it would be so much harder!
Amanda... ARE YOU OUT THERE!!??? Hope your well :)
:hello: CK, Danni, Nikky & Amumma! Hope you are all going well <3
Well yesterday was a little unsettled, but I figured it out.. The little ratbag was well and truely overtired from not having a proper sleep during the day. So DH took her for a drive last night and she crashed :) And she was amazing last night...
Today is our first offical day by ourselves.. Just us two.. So far so good, Ive even managed to put some washing on, and Im just about to head out to get some stuff to make Lactation cookies... Hmm I wonder if they work :think:
Hey ladies :)
Hehe mollie, I'm still here! Busy day yesterday, I went out for the first time without baby and expressed milk for DH to feed her :) it worked well but she keeps being SO hungry and feeds every five minutes if she's awake! I'm not sure why?! I managed to express 60ml yesterday so I think there is enough milk, it's just she wants it all the time!
Mollie, glad your day is going well so far! Yay! As for our MILs, I feel for you having to go spend so long with them!! Uhh!!!! DH still hasn't called his mum yet to actually tell we she can't stay with us - he seems to be putting it off! But yeah how the same to they seem?! SO annoying!!! It annoys me cos my DH gets amazing in laws (my parents are so helpful and yet always wait for us to contact them to come around and see the baby to give us space etc) and yet I get this stupid pushy rude woman who I can't stand! At least we can vent to each other hey!!
I booked a dr appt for tomorrow cos my stitches are still so sore- i reckon they might be infected but I'm kinda terrified of the dr looking at them cos they're so sore and half are up inside where the dr will probably have to poke around to find! So scared.. Wish I could just describe the pain and just get antibiotics without her having to look at them!!
Lolpigs, sounds like definitely the right way to go with the mixed feeding, and you still get the bonding time plus she gets the goodness of some BM, so sounds like definitely a good choice :) I think it's SO cute she has learnt to poke out her tongue!! Hhehehe! Clever!!!
CK, I hope Alex got his day and night figured out again so you got some sleep last night?
I'm still here girls just been struggling with the whole breastfeeding caper or lack of it. TBH girls it's completely broken my heart and i've been checking on you girls to see how your all coming along but not posting alot.
Awwwwww poor Danni... I can imagine how upsetting it'd be for you hun.. But the fact you care so much just shows what an amazing mum you must be :) *hugs*
:hug: Hoping you're feeling better soon Danni - I know it's hard but Amanda is right, you're a fantastic mum.
Being home on your own does get easier, it helps to organise catch ups with any friends/family who also aren't at work etc - every couple of days or so. We try to have at least one outing every second day, whether that's the shops, coffee with a friend etc. Something to look forward to but not always rushing around going places if that makes sense.
We just got home from a big shopping trip, so much easier in the ergo than it used to be with DD and trying to get a trolley with a baby carrier and hope that it's in ok condition etc. Seems to have sorted himself back out again as he only woke twice last night each about 3hrs or so apart. It does look like he's going to be a spewer like his sister was though - just got me a good one all over himself and me. Not really what I'd call power chucking or anything though, just little bits here and there after a feed, so the flannel flat nappies that SIL gave us are getting a good work out as spew rags.
Amanda and CK you made me cry. I know i'm a good mum it's still quite fresh atm i think plus to chuck in the crazy post baby hormones.
Oh those hormones are such insidious little snots to make us doubt ourselves so much... :comfort:
Oh those hormones, god knows mine kick in when I dont think Im doing things the right way!:
Amanda - I hope your DH rings his mother before they turn up! And think that they can stay with you.. You definitely need your space with a new baby so that you can learn everything. Thank god Aubree and I have the breast feeding established, otherwise Im sure my MIL would be all up in my grill trying to 'help' lol...
Danni :hug: Breastfeeding should be easier then it is!
We had a mummy and daughter day out today :) it was awesome... we had lunch and did some shopping, and now we are chilling at home <3 love it
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Hugs Dannim xx
I'm still feeding. Painful on the left side but managing it.
Levi has had a terrible few nights, Im going to illiminate dairy and see how he goes as its all eons I believe it's something I'm eating. I'm running on 4 hours sleep, I'm currently laying on the lounge room floor, watching him sleep in the swing. Pity my brain won't switch off so I can sleep too lol.
UGH I'm so mad right now, I stupidly didn't wake violet up for a feed before leaving to go to the doctor for getting my stitches checked for infection (fun) and so she cried the whole way in the car and DH made me feel SO bad for it, saying I clearly didn't have her best interest at heart - I'm still learning all this stuff and SO didn't need that kind of nasty lecture from him making me feel more terrible than I already do... So I BFd for 5 mins in the car and hope that holds her off till I get back... I feel awful.
Your DH needs a boot to the head and to be told to button it. Be kind/supportive or keep his trap shut! Sometimes stuff happens, sometimes she's going to decide she's hungry at inconvenient times and will have to wait. And yes, she'll cry. It's not going to hurt her long-term, and definitely does NOT mean you don't care, or don't have her best interests at heart! You are doing a great job hun, be gentle with yourself.
Most doctors couldn't care less if you BF in the waiting room, or even while talking to them before the examination if you need to. Heck, most just gave us an indulgent smile and a few words of encouragement while I fed Alex in the corridor after our consultation before driving home.
Oh and Mollie, I know hey, I bet you he will keep putting off telling her till she rocks up on our doorstep! Yay for your mummy daughter day! How cute!
Wig BFding, my dr said don't feed till you e left like 3 or 4 hrs in between feeds, yet I've just been feeding when she's hungry which is ALOT! Anyone have any views on this?
Oh and stitches aren't infected , just lots of stitches and yeah normal to still be so sore apparently!
I feed Alex on demand, some days he's hungry a lot and wants to feed frequently, other days he'll feed less often but for longer periods. So long as the output is good just go with what she wants I think. Particularly in hot weather BF babies will have shorter but more frequent feeds as this keeps them well-hydrated as well as provides nutrition. Most doctors and child health nurses recommend demand feeding with exclusively BF babies I thought? I know mine certainly do...
Awwww thanks CK I needed to hear that :) yeah he was sooo rude and I'm clearly doing the best I can! And it was a 15 min appt and now I'm feeding her again so she didn't have to wait long! He was just being a jerk! I got back in the car and told him I ready felt bad as it was so he didn't need to try make me feel worse - and I burst into tears as soon asi walked into the drs office too and I told her what happened and she said men don't get it haha! Thanks hun :) I appreciate your nice words! :)
As for feeding, good to know you demand feed too- I can't stand the thought of her hungry and not feeding her! And good advice, next time ill just BFd in the drs! Good advice!!
Danni, hope your feeling okay today :)
:hug: that was a bit insensitive of him :/ I'm sure you doing everything you can and are the best mumma. Men can be silly sometimes they struggle to cope too and lash out instead of talking about things. My husband does this too. Its irritating. Tell him if he can't be supportive zip it, becuase you don't need to hear that. I would have made him awit till I BF her completely in the car if it was me. I did it the other day with my husband. :lol: Glad to hear your stitches are all clear, a sick mumma isn't good either!:
I demand feed as well, even with comping I still dont let her sleep more than 3 hours in between feeds during the day. She normally wakes well before that anyway LOL because I want to make sure she is eating well, but I don't not feed her if she is hungry. I use a formula for comps that has no Casein protien in it so its easily digested like my milk so she keeps to a regular waking pattern during the day.
I thought the waiting to feed rule was old school thinking anyway? Even FF babies they suggest demand feeding nowadays too.
Making a baby wait to feed is really old school and not recommended anymore anyway. I feed Abby anywhere from 2-3.5 hourly normally it's pretty much 3 hourly though day and night. I'm finding she is having 8 bottles a day ATM which is a couple over what she really needs but she is waking 3 hourly overnight again. DH gave her the 1am feed this morning, I was so happy to get a couple extra hours till she woke at 3am for a feed.
Amanda thanks for asking how I'm going :). I'm ok still feeling like I could have done more with the breastfeeding but on the other to know how much pain I was experiencing every feed and it was getting to the point I was dreading each feed.
Glad to hear your going ok Dan, I was wondering how things were getting on. I was like that in hospital Dan, in so much pain that I was dreading attaching her, becuase I didn't get much help until day 3 getting her attached properly when her weight started to suffer becuase my milk was not coming in. I had blisters all over my nipples from her working them so hard.
My introduction to breastfeeding was an old midwife shoving her on my boob after returning to my room still out of it on medication from the operation. I really wanted to BF in recovery but was so exhausted I could only stare at her, and she slept on me heh.
I am still going, Managed to get 120mls over the course of today pumping. I save it up and use it for her night comps when she seems to want more. Bubs still isn't that great at sucking however, so I think that might also be causing an issue. I find however our 4am feed I seem to have more milk? Is that my imagination?
My Fenugreek and Blessed Thistle tablets arrived today so I started taking those along with the Motilium. Worth a try at least. Was so cross, called to speak with my LC and got the other LC in their office who I haven't delt with. She tried to tell me the reason I have no milk is becuase of attachment, and when I told her my LC told me my attachment was fine all I got was "oh, well do you want to come in an see her again then to check" err not really she has already seen me once and checked it, I also was told that if I dont get my supply fixed then DD won't accept my boob soon becuase we are comping.. er what? DD is not making indication she is refusing the breast unless there is no milk. I was not impressed and promptly cancelled my visit I was going to go in. I dont need to be made to feel inadequate again when I'm just starting to feel better, No thanks. Obviously they don't know why my milk isn't increasing properly, however I suspect its because DD wants a fast flow and mine is slow and so she dosen't suck properly etc.
I spoke with my mother yesturday and she checked how I was feeding bubs, and told me that she had the same problem when I was born. She had some milk but not enough and had to comp feed for 6months. She also said I never had an issue with going between bottle and boob and her milk didn't stop either just because she was comping. She said that my flow problems sound the same as hers, but at least Lilly got colostrum becuase her milk took 10 days to come in and she had no colostrum. So looks like there might be a hereditary issue at play here, not just "put her on the boob more" which seems to be the only response I get now :|
Hope everyone else is doing really well. :hug:
I'm demand feeding about every 2.5-3 hours. At night I get 3.5 to 4 (if he sleeps).
Day 1 with no dairy or Gripe Water. Shall shee what his night is like.
Had him out from 10:30 till 2:30 today. Did my first public feed (actually 2), in the parents room in the mall and then down the beach cafe (covered with wrap). Also has baby photos taken of him. can't wait to see how they turn out.
Amanda I hope your DH apologized for his comment!! A good slap up side the head or maybe suggesting that he try breast feeding :) Maybe you should just say to your MIL that although you are very excited for them to met YOUR daughter, you are still learning and would prefer it if they didnt stay with you...
Lolpigs I got the same kind of introduction to breastfeeding, the midwife looking after me was like "Ok this is what you do" then grabbed my boob, and Aubree's head and put them together.. I was in shock lol good thing I had a better midwife over night, and she helped me with attachment and all that jazz. Listen to your instincts, you are doing great, and if Lilly is happy with boob and bottle I wouldnt worry about what the LC says.. Plus your mum sounds like she is pretty helpful :)
Danni glad you are a little better today... Just take it all one day at a time.. You are doing a great job :)
Well Im glad its the weekend :) Looking forward to having hubby home for a couple of days.. Its gets a bit lonely when you only have a little person who cant talk back to you... and he will get to spend some quality time with Aubree
Tee hee hee...it's sticky and hot and yuck today. Feeding Alex is kinda like cuddling a hot water bottle in a sauna. So right now he's in the coolest spot in the house - playing on his mat on the lounge-room floor in a singlet and a nappy with the a/con on :D
Whet age does everyone start belly time? Levi had reasonable head strength and is very nosey and wants to look at everything. He will be 3 weeks on Wednesday.
Had some photos taken of him today. Can't wait to see them printed.
I already do tummy time every wake session even if it is only for a few mins. The head of midwife in the nursery in our hospital recommended it, as it is good to clear wind, and build up the strength in their neck so they can learn to roll and sit up quicker. It is my trick to wake sleepy head up hehe :)
We have started tummy time already.. It helps bring up wind, and Aubree is pretty strong and can sort of lift her head.. We do it for about 5 mins every day..
I've pretty well been giving Alex a few mins at a time on his tummy since we got home - he's really strong and can lift his head for a few seconds already, enough to turn from one side to the other then back down. Plus we also do a bit with him lying on my chest being propped up a bit by my boobs, which he seems to quite enjoy as he can raise his head higher and see everything :)
I've been doing a lot of belly time on my chest but haven't put him on the floor yet. I'll give it a go tomorrow :)
Lolpigs I was just reading some info on a website.. Do you think it could be possible that Lilly might be having a growth spurt????
I think Aubree might be having a growth spurt.. Since 1pm Aubree has been feeding every 2 hours... hmmmm :/ I dont know if I have enough milk for her...
Possibly Mollie, but I haven't had enough milk from the time she was born, rather than just suddenly not having enough milk now. Oh if you had enough milk for her up until now I think you would be fine. Even with comping Lilly has days (like today) where she feeds every 2 hours :lol: she is such a little piggie. Wore myself out pumping today for her. Just about to do my last pump for today as I don't pump overnight becuase I still need to rest after the C/S.
Thanks for looking into things for me thought :) Appreciate it.
Finally got to the big computer....
Babies List
Nikky ~ 31 October ~ :stork-girl: ~ Zoe Olivia
Sweetpeajan ~ 1 November ~ :stork-girl: ~ Jessica Sophia
Untold Angel ~ 5 November ~
Lolpigs ~ 7 November ~ :stork-girl: ~ Lilly Annabelle
Cranky Kitten ~ 10 November ~ :stork-boy: ~ Alexander Gabriel
Mollie89 ~ 12 November ~ :stork-girl: ~ Aubree-Rose
Danniim ~ 13 November ~ :stork-girl: ~ Abigail Violet
A Mumma ~ 16 November ~ Levi Daniel
Amanda ~ 17 November ~ :stork-girl: ~ Violet Lilly
Hubby was up most of the night with Levi, which meant I got a fair bit of sleep. Pitty it doesnt feel like it :(
Edit: We have reached the limit for images. I might mix the list up a bit and you can all tell me what you think lol (next post).
:babygirl: :cheer:
Nikky ~ 31 October ~ Zoe Olivia
Sweetpeajan ~ 1 November ~ Jessica Sophia
Lolpigs ~ 7 November ~ Lilly Annabelle
Mollie89 ~ 12 November ~ Aubree-Rose
Danniim ~ 13 November ~ Abigail Violet
Amanda ~ 17 November ~ Violet Lilly
:babyboy: :bluecheer:
Cranky Kitten ~ 10 November ~ Alexander Gabriel
A Mumma ~ 16 November ~ Levi Daniel
:nappy: :baby:
Untold Angel ~ 5 November
While Im on here and posting....
Photos of our little family :)
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...s/levi+daniel/
Such a cutie! :) You all look so happy:
Thanks Lolpigs. That was a good day lol.
Lolpigs, thank you :) I reckon your right, it's a case of him being stressed and not being sensible and talking about it and being mean and nasty instead... Men, geez.
Mollie, nope he never apologized!
Danni, anyone in your situation would've done the same thing, and there's no point putting yourself through the stress of being in significant pain each time you were feeding, you should be able to enjoy the newborn stage and no one could do that properly in such pain... Now you can enjoy it and know your doing the right thing for you both!
SO we had another fight -so I had agreed DHs dad could stay with us this weekend on the condition that DH cleaned up (Vaccumed and just neatened up, not a full on clean or anything) and I got up this morning and his dad was going to be here in an hour and no cleaning had been done, so I jut mentioned that it hadn't been done yet and he went off at me
Saying I'm a "selfish b**ch of a wife" because I was hounding him about it! I was SO upset- hello, I've jut been through 9 months of pregnancy and a pretty traumatic birth I bring us our baby into our family, not to mention getting up feeding violet all night, plus I've cooked dinner and cleaned the dishes etc every night since being home from hospital... And he calls me selfish cos I was bugging him about making sure he Vaccumed before his dad arrived! He said the fact I won't let his mum stay with us, plus "my actions yesterday" referring to the doctors incident proved I'm a "selfish b***ch of a wife" - anyway I was in tears right up till his dad arrived and managed to pull it together so I seemed fine for his dad, and I'm pretending alls fine so his dad doesn't think anything is wrong but I tell you hes going to have one talking to later once we go to bed. I was so upset I was like, take that comment back! And he was like no, you deserve it! I'm furious.
And on a side note- he never even said thank you for everything I went through with the birth- not that I expect him to say thank you exactly but to show a bit more appreciation would've been nice, let alone THIS.
On a slightly less yuck topic- does anyone else's baby choke a few times while feeding?! It scares me cos it sounds like she can't breathe for a few seconds!
Thanks all for the advice on demand feeding, SO glad you all agree!!
AM, beautiful photos!!! You guys really look very cute :)
Amanda :hug: Your hubby sounds like he needs more then a talking too! A swift kick in the head would do the trick! How dare he say you are been selfish. You gave up your body for 9 months, plus gave birth to Violet!!! You dont need that when you are trying to establish breastfeeding, sleep deprived!