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Trish - He had been sleeping well again with a dream feed before I go to bed and only one wake up and feed around 2am and I can totally handle that. But last night wasn't a good night. He was very hard to settle when we put him down, took me about 30 mins to get him to go to sleep. Then he woke about 3 times I think. Pretty sure he popped tooth #7 overnight but couldn't get a good enough look. Hopefully #8 will follow in the next few days and we'll have a decent stretch of good sleep. I can't believe Alana doesn't have any teeth yet! I'm sure they're not far off.
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LOL - even though Baz wakes up at least twice a night for a feed, I can always count on him being a better sleeper then my DS2. He wakes up crying regularly, and will keep at least one of us up half the night, and then get us all up at 6 - even if he's siblings did decide to sleep in. I don't even notice Baz, he wakes up, has a feed and goes straight back down. My DD slept through the night from 6 months, so I guess I've had all extremes.
All you girls talking about wanting another bub, I can relate. Although, I know I couldn't cope with another so soon (either physically, emotionally or mentally) I KNOW I want another, and couldn't bear the thought of being told to stop at three. I worry because DH keeps on saying that he doesn't want anymore, but I think that is because my pg's have been progressively harder on me, and thus him and our family. In hindsight, I believe I probably suffered from antenatal depression this last time round, on top of all my physical problems. I wouldn't listen to the midwives or DH who tried to tell me that at the time. I must admit I am not anxious to experience it all again soon, but I cann't imagine not ever being pg again, or having another little bundle.
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Hi everyone
Saffi - I had to laugh at your comment about our future 18 year olds :lol: that's so true! Oh geez I can't even picture my little Moo all grown up :o
Willow - I hope that tooth #8 is on it's way & you both get some relief very soon. BTW your little one has double the teeth my Moo has :lol:
Trish - Sitting on her knees, that sounds so cute! You'll have to get a pic up of that on FB. I'd love to see! Aren't the quirky little things they do so funny? Moo often sits cross legged & it just cracks me up to see him doing something "grown up". That's a bummer about your trip!
MummeNurse - That video of Eli walking is just amazing! Thanks for sending it to me, she's so clever & cute.
AFM - We have a mini Dracula here, Moo's top side teeth are coming through before his middle. Going to look so cute! He's continuing to eat everything in sight which is great.
Just reading about all your night experiences, Moo is so up & down! We had two nights of him sleeping through from 6pm to 6 & 7am, then last night up three times :wall:
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Hi ladies,
Hope everyone and their bubs are doing great!
We started sleep training last night! Wow, it was hard, I am not feeding him anymore during the night, as I am trying to encourage him to sleep through and self settle again, as he is becoming more and more difficult as the months pass. Last night he took an hour to settle back to sleep, I offered some sips of water, tucked him back in and reassured him, and he eventually settled back to sleep on his own. Im hoping tonight will be even better...finger crossed! I have re-arranged his cot, put warmer blankets on and have established a new bed-time (7:00pm) and a new routine - bath (6:00pm) as usual, pj's, bottle and a book, then bed! Dinner is at 5:30pm now. Im going to try and stick to it pretty strictly till he gets the hang of it, then Im sure a little flexibility will be good.
Also, Im hearing you all on getting your little pumpkins dressed....OH MY GOD!!!!! What a stuggle! Im having to chase him around the lounge room floor, he is so strong and quick...far out!
Anyway, ill bbl for persies, house cleaning awaits!
Issy
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Hi everyone,
thanks for your well wishes for christening etc. It really was great :) Work has picked up!!!!!!! yay! Many of you know this was a big stress for me lately. But it looks like I won't have to go back to casino (prev job) and can now do what I studied for - teaching! I worked two days this week and have 2.5 days booked in next week (I am available for 3 days a week, so this is great!). Relief teaching pays well, so don't have to do as much which is great = more time with Eli!. I noticed he is being much more clingy, I think cause I have been at work, he is with my mum (who he loves very much) on mon & Wed and DH on Tues, but he still misses his mumma - I miss him too - but hey...got to work!
He is still mad on the boob and has been feeding more since I have been at work, which is making pumping my supply for frozen milk difficult. Nevermind I shall persevre.... He is loving food and his second top tooth has just made it through today - so cute. He had his second haircut today and looks sooooo grown up! My goodness, baby boy where did you go? 6 years to get you and you are already so grown up!:shakehead:
Trish - I bet Alana is going to get a lot of them at once ;)
Willow - Elis is still the same too :hug: :hug:. I put him down around 8:30 then he wakes around 12 and 4 for a feed. From 12 onwards he co-sleeps. It is the only way I can get enough rest. Plus I must admit since being at work I love being close to him at night. I miss him so.... would be nice if he slept more.....I just keep saying it won't last forever.... right? ;) Hope it gets better soon hun.
Issy - we are the same here with getting dresson :lol: soooo annoying. The boys looked so cute playing in the portacot the other day... we are so lucky!
Chezel - hope you guys have a great night tonight. and how cute mini dracula!
misty - time will tell you when it is time for another. I know I feel the same as you, not ready yet, but not ready for Eli to be the only one either! We are thinking TTC next year...but who knows maybe a bit later? ahhh it is a tricky one.
Saffi - :hug: hope you and your gorgeous girls are well hun!
Rach xx
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Hi girls,
Tippytoes - I know, we are so very lucky to share this time together, watching and enjoying our little ones growing up together, after supporting eachother through ttc for so many years. Im still amazed everyday that it worked out the way it did, its just amazing and Im so grateful I found a friend like you....youve been my angel! Luv ya hun xxxx
Cheezlemonster - It seems to be like that doesnt it? The unpredicatable nights? Im hoping it sorts itself out soon. Sleep training is going great, Lochie slept from 7pm till 6am this morning, so thats a really positive start and result from our first few nights if sleep training. Just got to keep everything consistent now, until he gets the hang of it!
Misty - Im the same. I couldnt imagine not being pg again. I am looking forward to doing it again and welcoming the last little bundle of joy into our family. Im keen to wait, and so was DH....LAST WEEK!!!!! Now, he has had a change of heart and wants to see how things pan out, not minding if we have another one soon. I think he is pretty worried about me going on any kind of contraception again, after finding it so difficult for us to fall pg a 2nd time, and waiting so long for my body to get back to normal. I dont know....im very hesitant about doing it all again so soon. I would like to wait another year...AT LEAST! Will have to think about it!!!!!!!!
Trish - thankyou for your lovely words of praise about bf'ing. I really appreciate it! Im know 8 months is great, and im grateful we got this far considering it has been a bit of a bumpy journey! He is only having bottles now, and as the days pass, im feeling more and more at ease with it. He is still my happy little fella, so I have to be thankful for that! Oh and goodluck with sorting out plans for your trip. Must be difficult with a baby who dislikes the car. Lochie was starting to hate it too, but we turned the seat around at 6 months, and since then he has been good. He wasnt quite the recommended weight, but I decided to do it anyway. Im glad I did!
Oooops, gotta go, just noticed the time, and have so much to do today...hi to everyone else I have missed!
Issy
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Issy - Glad to hear the sleep training is going well. We had a much better night last night with only one wake up so I'm hoping that means the latest lot of teeth are sorted. I am going to wait a few nights to see how he goes and if he seems back to normalt hen I am *hoping* to work up the courage to stop feeding overnight and resettling instead. I've been saying that for weeks though! :lol:
As for ttc, we won't be having anymore. I've been prg 4 times in the last 5 years and I kinda think that's enough for me! When D was about 3-7 months old I really felt like I could have another but over the last few months I realise I'm very content with the 3 children we have and considering the issues we've had ttc, I don't want to push my luck.
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Well, update on sleep training....7pm till 7am for our little pumpkin here last night! He stirred at 3:30am, but I popped the dummy in and he continued sleeping! Wowzers...its working!!!!!!
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awww nice one issy! :clap: Gee, my darling god-son is such a good little boy! ... Now can he teach his god-brother the same! ;) Eli slept pretty well, still waking at 12 and 4ish for a feed, but as he is in with us, I can pretty much sleep through YAY!. Must get ready for work tomorrow. House is a tip and soooo much washing.... hopefully BBL!
Rach xx
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Well our first serious attempt at resettling instead of feeding was a freaking DISASTER. Fed him before I went to bed, then he woke at about 1am fed him but then he woke again at about 3.20am - tried to resettle and got him back to sleep once only to have him wake again 10 mins later. He wailed for about an hour and a half all up. At 4.30am I cracked it and fed him and he slept till 7.30am when I had to wake him for breakfast.
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Oh Willow, Im sure it will get easier. Lochie was pretty bad at first too, kept waking every hour to feed, and I caved so many times. But I knew I had to do something cause he was starting to get pretty bad, and I knew he didnt need the feed in the night, and was only using it to resettle. You'll get there, but just make sure you do it in your own time when you are both feeling up to it....its not easy!
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Can we join the 'bad sleepers club'? :(
We used CC for DD from 6 mths, she was and has been a good sleeper ever since.
DS1 we were unable to use CC for various reasons (including him actually getting worse when we tried) - he still is a terrible sleeper. Have given up with him...he is 2.5yrs old and I cann't see how anything will improve there.
Now Baz is showing signs of becoming just as bad as his big brother. :( He will only sleep when held, will not self settle, wants to be fed everytime he wakes and will not settle until he is (even though he isn't actually hungery). I am at a loss as to what to do.
I think because of all the problems we ran into trying EVERYTHING with DS1, I am hestitant to do anything with baz, just in case it backfires and makes him worse (like it did with DS1). I don't know where to start. Should I just leave him to cry? If so how long for? etc etc
Everyone seems to suggest sleep school. Sounds like a fabulous miracle worker, the way everyone talks about it. The problem is that it just isn't practical. I have three kids to look after, not just one baby. I don't have the time for it. And I am really not comfortable inviting anyone into my house to help 'train' him, even if we had the money.
The biggest problem seems to be that we have a small house, with the bedrooms right across from each other. This means everytime Baz wakes up screaming, DS1 gets woken up, or vice versa.
And truthfully Baz isn't That bad yet, I am just terrified he is going to be as bad as his brother. Once bitten, twice shy....
Then again maybe it's just teething causing the bad sleeping atm????
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Big hugs Misty :hug:. IKWYM about once bitten twice shy. Would you like me to PM you something that I tried for DS2 and DD that seems to work well? Just let me know and I am happy to pass it onto you :).
Willow - More hugs to my friend :hug:. Sorry it didn't go well last night. Just remember that the first night is usually the worst and tends to get a little bit better each night. You just have to keep at it (but only if you're up for it :hug:).
Tippytoes - I hear you on the washing! DH took the boys away for the weekend and brought home a mountain of dirty clothes for me, how nice :rolleyes:.
issy - Woohoo on Lochie sleeping well!!!
CheezelMonster - LOL @ mini-Dracula! My DS1 got his top side teeth first too, I was worried he wouldn't get the middle ones for a while :lol:. I have put a photo of Alana sitting on her knees on FB and in my ticker, she's so funny! I saw your photos of your DS sitting cross-legged, he looks so grown up LOL!
Hi to all that I have missed, sorry, gotta be quick!
AFU - We finally have a tooth! Alana had a couple of dodgy nights and then yesterday I felt a little sharp tooth that has cut through. It's one of her bottom teeth. I wonder if the others will be far off? She's still not interested in drinking water from a cup, she'll have a tiny sip if I offer it to her, but she doesn't want to hold it or drink it herself. I guess she will eventually!
Well I'd better go and take the mountain of washing off the line and bring it inside *sigh*.
Have a great night all :D
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Trish - I would be greatful for any advice :) And YAY on the tooth!
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Trish - YAY for a tooth! They sure are sharp aren't they! Quite suprising! Boo, for washing... I hear you.
Misty - :hug: Hun, I hope it is just teeth. I don't know what I am doing here with sleeping ....but wanted to give you a hug!
Willow - big :hug: I am sorry you are having such a rough time of it hun. It can be really upsetting can't it. I hear you hun. If I am honest..... Eli wakes up around twice a night and I feed him to sleep both times...I can sleep and he settles better. Just keep swimming ..... just keep swimming (in Dory voice!).
issy - hi and I am also grateful daily for our little ones and our friendship....luv ya! And see you soon. hope you have another great night tonight hun.
AFU - had school today and boobs were sooooo ready for a drain after :lol: I got some good milk pumped for the freezer though so that was great! Eli is gorgeous and I so look forward to coming home to him after work....glad I am not working everyday though..must dash.... :grouphug:
Rach xx
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Issy - Good luck with the sleep training. Seems like you're off to a great start! I agree, consistency is the key! I'm glad it's working for you :)
Tippytoes - Congrats on the relief teaching!
Willow - I'll join in you in the working up the courage to stop overnight feeding :lol: Really want to stop but...dunno just doesn't seem to happen! Just saw your latest :hug:
Misty - hugs to you too :hug: It's so hard to know what to do isn't it? I can understand why you're hesitant to change things with Baz.
Trish - woohoo Alana on the toothy peg! I did see your pic earlier, sooo cute & funny! Yeah Moo won't drink either ATM unless I hold the sippy cup for him :dunno:
Moo is now cruising furniture! Caught him this arvo going from the couch to the play pen! As I said, would like to stop feeding him overnight. But really putting it off for some reason! It's usually only once, sometimes twice but am really over it! Especially seeing he doesn't NEED it & will go all night now & again.
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Thanks guys but I'm really doing OK, it's just so frustrating though!
I honestly don't mind feeding him once overnight but twice or more...I'm just over it.
I was just looking at the sleep guide from Ngala (sleep school in WA) and they actually say that babies up to 12 months may sleep through but they also may feed 4-6 hourly overnight. So maybe our babies are just doing very normal stuff :dunno:
I go from wanting to get him to sleep through to just thinking it's too hard and going with the flow.
Misty - I can relate 100%. My DD was a good sleeper, similar to D in that they learnt to self settle very early (D has actually self settled pretty much from birth, so I got lucky in that respect). We did occasionally do what I call responsive settling which is listening to bubs cry and going in and comforting accordingly. I wouldn't say we did full on CC but it worked and she was sleeping through every night, 12-13 hours solid by about 7-8 months. I didn't know how good I had it.
DS1 was a shocker. He had difficulty sleeping from birth. He'd have good stretches where he would self settle and sleep OK at night but then he'd regress again. At 10 months I hit rock bottom, I was just exhausted so we took him to sleep school. It was one of the hardest things I've ever done, but it worked. He has been a fantastic sleeper ever since. He started sleeping through at sleep school and we never looked back. He is now 2.5 and we very, very rarely have to get up to him during the night and if so, it's usually because he is sick.
Having said all that, I would have to be utterly desperate to do it again.
I just wonder where we went wrong, he was such a fantastic sleeper when he was a little baby but over the last 5-6 months has gotten worse and worse :wall:
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Willow - I don't think you went wrong at all.... they are just babies.... I think :D. Well, at least that is what I am telling myself!
Chezel - thanks for congrats on teaching. It really is a big relief (relief teaching is a relief! :lol::lol::lol:) Also, you call them toothy pegs aswell! I thought my family wrer the only ones!
Rach xx
