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OP- Routine is good but just use as a rough guide, if she is tired put her doen to sleep. We had a terrible time with DD1 and we to a sleep clinic, we did eventually get somewhere, so I try some of the same things with Emily now cause I know it can work I feel bit more confident in doing it. Eventually she will get into a predictable routine where you'll know roughly what time she wants to sleep or be awake, always changes every so often tho.
Holly- maybe he gets past that tired point and gets that second wind and is harder to resettle. I find if I miss the window she is much harder to settle. The prob also is sleep promotes sleep but hard to get it going like that. I guess once the breathing gets sorted then you can put your time and energy into settling him easier.
Kaz- Usually you need to give something new at least 3 days to see if its working or not.
Nai- woohoo on the weight loss! I so need to tone up, hate seeing myself naked these days. I blame these girls of mine for it!
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Typing one handed so will be short
Ocean-Did the sleep clinic say no sleep after 5pm?
Nai-well done on wait loss,bet your happy!!!
Kaz- Good Luck with the resettling, I'm going to try being better at night and no co sleeping/feeding back to sleep this week, you've given me inspiration. Sounds like you got a bargin with the chair.
Ok making too many mistakes typing one handed will be back later...
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shell bummer about the dorothy show! ive only ever taken sophie to the playschool concerts.
how are all the sickies in the house?
holly your not a sook :hug: youve certainly got your hands full, i take my hat off to you hun!
it does sound like Leon is overtired though, remember sleep creats sleep, the more they get the more they want it!
kaz yay on the chair and :lol: at yout little esme!!
meg sophie was the same sleeping through from 3 weeks :o
nai awesome job with WW!!!
op sorry sleep school didnt really help, maybe just use their settling techniques but stick to her routine, you know her better than anyone :hug:
please dont get down about it :hug:
all this talk of sleep!! for us we have no routine except night, as long as millie isnt awake from her last sleep before 5 and is up by 6 for bath time, thinks are ok!
but for during the day i just go with the flow! she normally has 4-5 sleeps a day most are 45-60 mins, sometimes one will be longer. i leave her in bed to see if shes going to go back to sleep, but get her up when she gets snippy,i feed her 2.5-3 hourly, and dont follow the feed play sleep thing. im much more relaxed about sleep this time, i used to get quiet anxious with sophies sleeps and it got me no where!
as long as we all remember that all bubs are differet all will be right!! no two bubs are the same! i hope no one thinks their not doing a great job just because some sleep better than others, were all super duper mummies!!! :lol: hope all that came out ok :lol:
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wow.. I really admire you gals for getting your bubs to sleep in their cots during the day - Alex won't go near it at all - he gets wide awake when I put him in, so I have to cuddle him for hours :rolleyes:
meg - didn't venture out to the toy sales
Nai - way to go on the weight loss!
Ali- did I thank you for putting up the sleep info? Well thank you :hug:
AFM - DH's dad estate is just going from bad to worse and now its potentially going to court with the executors (ie us) being sued (or whatever it is you call it when the other party wants to get money off you).. All I can say is good luck to them.. we don't have any! :rolleyes:
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Tarkine that really sucks about going to court over his estate. I can't believe how money brings the worst out of some people, it's disgusting.
AJP & Shell, yeah I kinda figured he probably is over-tired, but I never seem to spot that window!
Pinny how did it go last night with no feeding to sleep?
OP, hope you had a decent night last night and she settled down for you :hug: Sorry you didn't get much out of the sleep school.
AFM...well we had a really good night for once! He had his last day sleep (well evening) at 6:45pm and woke up 55mins later at 7:40pm. I then fed him and took a while to settle him back to sleep...finally went down in his own bed (next to me) at 9:45pm, slept til 11:05pm, quick feed, back down in his bed at 11:20pm and not a peep until 2:30am!! Woohoo! lol well it's good for us! Then had another feed, took a little bit to resettle and back down in HIS OWN BED at 3:15am, slept til 4:30am. Fed him, both fell asleep feeding and he woke up at 7:20am. SO yeah, a lot of broken sleep, but it is a lot better than usual and the fact that he slept most of the night in his own bed is amazing! I think that's why I feel a lot better this morning, because I didn't have a hot sweaty baby on me all night :lol: He has just woken up from his first day sleep and is just fidgeting(sp?) in bed. He went to sleep again at 9:15am, so slept for almost an hour!
Sorry for my ramblings and tally on sleeps but I'm just so happy :) Hope he starts to do longer blocks during the night - but I'm happy that last night he got a 3 hour block.
Anyway, I can hear him grunting away, probably trying to do a poo! Back later xox
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Yay Holly - that's great that he slept better for you!
Tarkine - as if you don't have enough to worry about :rolleyes: Money just brings out the worst in people I think
AFM - we had a sort of good night as Miss J went down at 7pm and didn't wake until 3am. She had a feed but then as she was going back to sleep did a massive poo and woke up so I changed her and put her into bed with me as she wasn't settling. Then she did a huge spew all over me in bed so I had to get up and change. She slept next to me until 6.30am when DD1 came in and yelled at me which woke Miss J up and she started screaming - great! She went down at 9am and has been asleep for 1.5hrs which is unheard of!
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Holly- Thats great, do you think the meds must be working helping him breath better? Hopefully it continues and he'll start to settle easier and have longer sleeps. It is hard catching that window of tiredness and then if they don't settle they get worse, I know from DD1 she was like L in the day. Barely slept.
Nai- Hope she isn't coming down with somethng, has she had her immunisations recently? I know the rotavirus one can cause vomiting 7 days after? Drives me crazy when the older child wakes bubs, Ash doesn't know the meaning of whispering when she is upstairs near Emily.
Tarkine- Thats awful, I have found death can bring out the worst in some people, I work with aged care patients and you really see family dynamics coming out and which family members actually want whats best for the patient and who is looking after there own interests. If they are taking you to court does that mean you now need to find legal support? Can you get free legal aide if neither of you are working?
Emily did so well last night, she gets really drowsy on her bedtime bottle so easily goes down and if she wakes in the night been settling herself back off after a little grizzle. Last night she didn't want her dreamfeed so she went from 7pm til 4:30 between feeds then slept til 8. Woohoo.
Day sleeps still bit tricky, takes a little while to settle but she is getting less upset and has been doing longer sleeps.
We all still sick tho, snot everywhere here and coughing, poor Emily by early morning sounds like she is drowing in phlegm. I try sit her up alot in the day and tap her back alot to make sure anything in her chest is loostened, don't know if it does anything!
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OP - :hug: darl. I was wondering how you were going. I think you do an awesome job with Isabel. She is not easy with her sleeping and I think you're a really strong mummy!
Shell - Thanks for the 3 days advice. Tried it again last night but it wasn't working :rolleyes: How are you guys going without the dummy? I'm seriously considering ditching it too because I'm up all the time to stick it back in overnight - I think when he stirs in light sleep and can't find it he starts getting noisy.
Holly - Whoohoo on the good night last night!! I really hope this means things are starting to improve for you guys.
Tarkine - That really sucks that its getting all legal. How stressful for you! I wonder why Alex is wide awake in his cot during the day??
Nai - Doesn't it suck when they spew all over you? Some days Jacob does it like 3-4 times and I have to keep changing. So annoying. Especially when it gets down my top and into my bra :sick:
Pinny - How did you go last night?
AJP - :clap: Well said. I get quite caught up in either feeding or sleeping and it really helps to take a step back.
AFM - He has just woken but was asleep for 1.5 hours and it's nearly 3 hours since the last feed. He's starting to fire up so I'd better go. Happy vibes to all!
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Lol, when i get vomited on I can't be bothered changing and just mop it up with towel.
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Snap Shell!! That's great about Emily doing so well without the dummy but not good everyone is sick. Hope you all get better soon.
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Unless I am saturated I don't bother changing - I don't have enough clothes that fit me! :lol: She's fine now and has been happy all day so I don't think it's anything. I am hoping that baby vomit has anti-aging qualities - if so, I will have the best decolletage as Miss J spews down my cleavage on a regular basis :rofl:
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Shell - I too think that I *may* ditch the dummy, as I am sick of going back in and putting it back in. Can you please share what you did in regard to settling without it? It seems to have made a big difference to you already.
J is going to stay with MIL for a few days, and I am seriously considering giving it a go then.
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.. I forgot to mention that if you put mayo in your hair you need to put a showercap on, over the top.
Don't even want to thnk about the legal stuff, just gets my blood boiling when I think about the details.
Nai - whole new beauty product there.. might have to come up with a new name than baby spew.
Kaz - Alex just loves cuddle time - he's a very cuddly baby.
Shell - the money will come out of the estate - as all the exectutors are being sued. I don't think we could qualify for legal aide.. won't even qualify for centrelink, as they will just turn around and tell me to go back to work, which I'm not going to do just yet.. (but you know my thoughts on centrelink - can't stand it - have a bad experience with centrelink when I was in a terrible place in my life and never again)
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Meg- I hear you about the dummy, I too might get rid of it..
OMG we have had a really good night/day with sleep, I gave L a dream feed at 11pm and he slept to 4.45am:dance: I then co slept with him till 8am!!!! he only feed once while co sleeping so should have put him back in bed but couldn't not be bothered...
Then we had mum's group at our house today, ARHHHH:doh:, some kids are really naughty!!!Trashed my house amd the mum just sat there and didn't correct them....Anyway that's another story will fill you in one day.
Lewis slept the whole time they were here 3 hours:o, I think he was too scared to wake up. I kept checking on him and he slept through the noise, I was happy as i was a bit afraid about leaving on the floor with the feral kids....( one even child lock my house phone & I don't know how to get get off...these kids touch everything!!!)
Anyway he had another slept for 1 hour 20 mins!! So I am very happy must be having a growing spurt!!!
Has anyone elses babies started to watch you eat and lick there lips and pretend to chew??? L started about 3 days ago especially at dinner time as we put him in the highchair that lays back to be with us at the dinner table. DD didn't do it that early...
Packed to the Rafters is on tonight yeah!!!!!
Sorry about the selfish post will try to get back later to do personals....
Holly looks like you had a good night with L too!!! :D
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Nai - LOL at anti-aging! Why not?
Tarkine - I like a cuddle too!! I don't think J is that cuddly - he's too busy wanting to rubberneck everything and acts more like he's trying to leap out of my arms most of the time :( The only time he snuggles is the late evening and overnight feeds.
Pinny - OMG at those kids! I don't think I would cope well with that :o Jacob has been showing more interest in us eating and drinking but it's hard to tell because he's curious about everything atm. He really loves watching water move around inside bottles and glasses. It's great that L is interested - it could be a copying/mimicing thing rather than a ready-for-solid-food thing though.
AFM - Jacob has been really grumbly today - more so than usual the past week. He has been awake 1hour max today - usually 30-45 mins and then he gets cranky so I've been putting him down. He's just waking up now and it's been his 4th nap today - three were for 1.5-2hours! :o Gotta go.
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Hi girls,
Way to go on all the sleep Big :clap: to Jacob and Leon doing some extra good sleeping!!!
Quick one from me as I am working out but on a little break. Just thought I would tell you that I got on the floor to do situps tonight and OMG they hurt so much, my abdominal strength has gone, I didnt realise how much until I went to do situps (havent done them in a year)!
Had mothers group at my house as well today (Pinny I cant believe how some of those kids treated your house and the parents did nothing :o I wouldnt have been impressed). It went really well and it was a good excuse to get my house cleaned top to toe the night before.
In case I havent told you in awhile, I am totally in love with my gorgeous little girl, she realy makes my life amazing and I feel so lucky everyday. I am sure all of you feel the same, just some days, I cant get over the way she makes me feel....
Anyway better get back to it. I'm watching top model while I work out, then there is Packd to teh Rafters and All Saints so I dont think I will be able to ahve a shower until 10:30. Tuesday night always has good tv.
Will do some personals tomorrow but Tarkine, big :hug: I cant believe how some people get when it comes to money. I am sorry you are going through this.
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Ali- I'm taping Rafters, boy the drag out the aussie top model final don't they, I'm very rapt with outcome tho! Not sure how that whole viewers vote works tho. Good on you with exercise, just do better than I did, I did if for few days and got slack!
Kaz- Maybe a grwoth spurt? They can sleep more than, enjoy the peace while he is!
Pinny- How rude of them, hate parents like that, I wouldn't have them back. Yeah Emily been showing heaps interest, so funny I put food near her face and she opened her mouth and put her hands out!
Tarkine- god they will sue then by the end of it there prolly not be any money left and all the lawyers go off happy, hope you sort it all out.
Meg- with the whole getting rid of the dummy I'd been giving her a bunny comforter for awhile so she'd have something to snuggle. So when I put her down she was automatically looking for her dummy and wasn't impressed, I just had to pretty much pat, rub,stroke her head or rock her on her side (you sort of lie them on there side and then roll back and forth). If she got really upset I'd pick her up, cuddle, and once she was completely calmed try again. She started sucking on her blanket or bunny too. Once she started drifting off I'd stop doing whatever I was doing and if she started again I'd start again. Emily like the rocking on the side the most so guess try and find what E likes and use that. Look it does involve crying but you are there the whole time and I always gave her a cuddle if she was really upset. It has worked well for us, it still varies from sleep to sleep but if she does need help settling its not for long. Hope I've explained it ok.
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just heard the news about the lady in WA with the twins - that is incredibly sad :(
