Babies born~July 1st-15th 2009 #3

Saw the message on facebook and sorry for not being on for so long!

Miss E - that is excellent! I am so glad Ash is making progress as far as sleep is concerned. I feel bad as Sam has been sleeping through since about 5 months so I feel really lucky. He goes to be at 6am and we don't hear a peep from him til 6am the next morning. It is nice that we get that time at night to ourselves. However, this means that becuase he is so use to settling himself in his cot, he is a complete nightmare when we go out. He doesn't like settling at other people's places unless it is night time as he can't see anything anyway so may as well go to sleep! Hopefully he will get more use to the porta cot we just got and that might help. He has a favourite toy but just doesn't want to do it and somtimes he is a nightmare in the car, othertimes he is fine! Good for you getting more sleep too and I hope Ash is feeling better.

Lovecate - I saw on facebook how sick you were, so glad you are feeling better. That must have been really scary with Nigel too. I can't imagine dealing with that while you have such terrible gastro. Gastro is awful, you just feel like curling up and dying. I hope everything is okay and hope NIgels test results come back okay. Terrible isn't it how we are pleased about the weight loss though!

SS Storm - I am a few weeks behind you guys so Sam probably isn't as developed as some of your babies. I know exactly what you mean though about feeling like you are doing the same things. We are going to buy Sam a swing for outside, he has a cubby that he isn't old enough for yet, the ones with the slippery dip and stairs as a friend gave it to us, but at the moment he just loves sitting in it and then I put him on the slippery dip. Inside - toys such as putting things in things (like blocks into a tupperware container), put things under things (Blocks under containers), reading books that are touch and feel with him, trying to show him his ears and nose etc and songs that involve clapping he seems to like. I also have a few new toys that are pushing on things to make sounds like little piano and a telephone.They also say, take them around the house with you while you do stuff and explain what you are doing. All these new actions are learning for them and showing them new things. I worry that he isn't learning anything new, but really everything they are doing is new. Hope that helps!

Jess - great to hear that Sophie is doing so well! So great when they sleep through isn't it! You feel like you have a bit of your life back!! Great to be off the bottles too, they are growing up too fast!!

AFM - we are doing well. Working 3 days a week and having 4 days off so feel like I have a great balance. Our business has been doing okay, but we are finding it so hard to find good workers! I am enjoying being at work a little but not too much and then having 4 days with Sam. Sam is doing well - crawling is a one arm, one leg pushing on tummy style - I don't know why he doesn't think to use the other leg and arm!! He is loving exploring. He is quiet little boy that is quite sensitive to new things but he is enjoying learning about the world around him. We have started going to a play group which will be great for him to meet other kids as well. He is starting to make more noises now and babble a bit more. I just can't believe that they are almost 1!!! Wow, we have friends about to have their first and it bought back so many memories and how nervous I was!! It is so great watching them learn. Sam is eating toast and bananas and cruskits all by himself now - for some reason won't pick up a piece of carrot though! He has 7 teeth too!!!
Hope you ladies are all going well, it is great seeing some of the new photos on facebook too!
It is great to all still keep in touch, I hope you melbourne ladies are organising a catch up. It is a shame that we don't live closer, it would be really nice to meet the people I have chatted to for almost 1 year now!!!!!

Hi Everyone! Hope you are all well, sorry I have been slack with the posts of late, these days with Ash crawling around and into everything it seems so hard to find the time!

Jetta, Sam's crawling sounds gorgeous! I've been meaning to find a playgroup for Ash too. I'm finding now that he goes a bit stir crazy if we spend the day at home, so I'd like to have another thing to do each week with him.

Lovelycate, so sorry to hear about your Easter. We all had gastro the week before, it was the most awful thing, I can't remember being that sick before and it took Ash a good 5 days to get over it and then a few more to start eating properly again. What a scare with your DH, has he had the tests done? I hope everything is okay, it must be quite a worry for you.

Storm we're having the early wake ups here too. I think it must take their body clocks awhile to readjust to daylight savings, Ash is waking at 5am most mornings at the moment, yesterday it was 4.15am. I feed him and put him back to bed, but so far he isn't going back to sleep, just hoping he catches on soon. In terms of playtime I don't really do that much with Ash, I'll often take him around the house and talk to him about what we're doing, and he loves to climb the stairs at the moment. But generally I just have a heap of toys out for him and he goes exploring, he loves pulling stuff out of shelves!

Jess good to hear from you and I'm glad Sophie is doing so well!

AFM we're doing pretty well at the moment (touch wood). Ash has started sleeping through again, I hate to say it but the CC really paid off. Mind you with the end of daylight savings he is waking up at around 5am, but getting a solid 10 hours sleep which is great! His naps are still really short, usually only 30 mins, if we're lucky on the odd occassion he might go an hour, but I don't think there's much I can do about that. We've also turned the corner on solids, he's become a real guzzle guts now that he's over his gastro which is great. He's also having grown up poos ;) I am starting to wonder how I'll go about weaning though. I think I would like to stop bfeeding at 12 months, or at least only have a morning and night feed because I'll be going back to work a few days a week. But at the moment he is boob mad and having at least 5 bf's a day if not more. So know idea how we're going to do that...

I've also started looking at child care centres. There are a couple near me which I really like and think he would enjoy, when we went for a tour the other day Ash just wanted to get into everything, so I'm hoping he will transition well when the time comes. But the waiting lists are ridiculous around here, I've been on them since I was 3 months pregnant and at this stage it's not looking good. I have no idea what we'll do if we can't get a place, Oh well just have to keep our fingers crossed.

Hope everyone is well! x

Hi ladies,

Sorry I've been MIA again... I can't believe its been "months" since I last posted! Where does the time go?

We had a series of visitors at the end of Feb & throughout March... and as much as it was loads of fun... it was sooo very busy and terribly exhausting at the same time.
Eve - I now appreciate how draining your month of visitors must have been earlier in the year! How did you find time to keep up with the things online?

We had the added challenge that two lots of our visitors in March had come with the expectation of seeing a bit of Brisbane & Qld (friends from Perth & friends from Switzerland), so we were also playing tour guides as well, which was not always easy, with an 8 month old!

Anyway, I need to catch up on lots of posts, to get all the latest from you all. I've missed so much; & I'm sure some of you might even have some of the answers I've been looking for, when it comes to the various things we experience with our little people.

AFU - Miss Annie is doing really well... happy & healthy, although we are in the throws of her very first cold... If only they could blow their little noses! I do wish there was a magic decongestant!
She's crawling faster than her little hands can move; & surfing the furniture every chance she gets... She's also started some serious babbling that's sounding more & more like attempts at words... Things seem to be happening all so fast at this age!!!

Hope you are all well & your little ones are making you smile. Keen to catch up with you all properly over the coming days & weeks.

hi everyone

welcome back Debbee! sounds like you have been really busy! Annie sounds like she is doing well. It's horrible when they're unwell though isn't it?

Miss E - thanks for your thoughts. DH is still in the process of having tests, but we're hoping that an improvement in our lifestyle (ie better diet and more exercise!) will be the only thing needed. I'm curious to know a bit more about the CC as Zac seems to have regressed lately, although that could be the aftermath of being sick I suppose. Will also be interested to hear how you get on with child care.

Suzy - I'm so impressed with how you're managing work and home, it sounds like it has worked out quite well for you. WTG Sam with all those teeth!!

AFU - well, it has been a pretty hard couple of weeks, but we are (hopefully) coming out the other side of it now. Zac seems to be over his gastro now - it took a while, but he has definitely got his appetite back! (I'm dreading the teenage years already based on how much he can put away now!)

Unfortunately the last couple of nights have been pretty bad - he wakes up a lot and completely cracks it - the most awful crying. I'm assuming it's teeth, but who really knows? One night in particular he would only sleep if he was in bed with me, but then wanted to party at about 4am :wall:

Does anyone else's bubba bite? Zac's really keen on biting atm. OUCH!!! those little teeth are damn sharp! and then he looks at me with such a cheeky little face it's hard to be cross ;)

Keen to know if anyone has strategies for nappy changing - it's kinda funny that I've coped with diarrhoea, projectile vomiting, etc, but the extreme sport of changing a nappy just about has me in tears at the moment! all I want is 30 secs to make sure it's on properly :pray:

Cate- nappy changes are a bit of a nightmare here too, sometimes she is fine, but more often than not starts crying as soon as I put her on the change table and trying to roll over. giving her a toy works for about 30 secs until she chucks it off the change table, so I have a few I pick up and give to her. I've found singing (even though my singing is terrible!) helps to stop her crying. She loves the Wiggles "Rock a Bye your Bear", and there are a few other silly songs I sing..my mind does tend to go blank though and I end up singing the same song over and over or sing the Playschool tune..LOL

Hayley has had a big week, she can go from tummy to sitting and sitting to tummy quite easily now and is starting to pull herself up. she chatters away a mile a minute so think she will be talkative like her dad!

Cate when we did the CC I made a point of talking to him about it in the few days before. I would say things to him like 'remember when you used to go to sleep all by yourself, well you will need to start doing that again soon, you're a big boy now and mummy and daddy can't keep rocking you to sleep'. I do think they understand a lot of what you say to them now and I really believe it helped to prepare him for it. I also made a point of starting to say 'it's time to go sleep' when he was getting really sleepy so that he learned to associate that with going to sleep. We also have a good pre-bedtime routine which is a bf (so I know he's not hungry) and a cuddle while we sing to him, which I think makes a real difference.

When we actually got to starting it, I began with his afternoon nap. I let him get over tired and had prepared myself mentally for the fact that he was more than likely going to cry himself to sleep (I figured the more tired he was the less time he would spend crying). I also spent some time thinking about why he would be crying, that he would be angry and frustrated with me for not doing what he wanted. So, the first afternoon that we started he spent an hour crying. After the first 3 minutes I went in and stroked/patted (whatever it took to calm him down in the cot) and repeatedly said 'it's time to go to sleep'. Of course the minute I went to leave he started crying again, which was hearbreaking. But, then I went in again after 5 mins, then 7 mins and then 10 mins. For me 10mins was the maximum amount of time I was prepared to let him cry because I didn't want him thinking that he had been abandoned, I wanted him to know that I was there, loved him, but that I was no longer going to rock him to sleep. I could tell by his cry that it was an angry and frustrated cry, rather than an overly distressed heartbroken cry iykwim.

That night we did the same thing, but it only took 30 minutes for him to go to sleep. He woke up a couple of times during the night. DH or I went in to him straight away and comforted him in the cot and told him that 'it's time to go to sleep'. Each time it only took a couple of minutes for him to go back to sleep himself. This was a huge break through because before this he was waking up to 7 or 8 times a night and having to be rocked back to sleep which took at least 15 or 20 minutes.

The next morning he went to sleep after only 15 mins and then that afternoon went to sleep without any crying. Since then he has been sleeping wonderfully. It's been a few weeks now and I think I have only had to go in and comfort him once 2 or 3 times since we did it. For the last couple of weeks he's actually been sleeping for 10 hours straight and waking up at around 5am. The last couple of nights he has woken up at about 2.30am and I have then fed him and he's gone back to sleep without any problems. When we decided to give the CC a go I made a decision that I would only bf once through the night so that he didn't start relying on it for resettling.

Anyway, that's how we did it. It's not for everyone, and TBH I really didn't think it was for us either. But I had gotten to a point of desperation and was trying to get into a 5 day sleep school program. But then I figured that they were probably going to do some form of CC and that it would probably be better for Ash if we were going to do it for him to do it in his own room where he feels safe and comfortable in his surroundings. I really think that the reason it worked for us is because we prepared for it, we decided when we were going to start and that we would give it four days, no exceptions, and we talked to him about it beforehand so that he was ready for it.

As for the nappy changes, they're also a major PITA here. I have a few different things in reach of the change table that I give to him to try and keep him on his back. But inevitably he rolls over and sits up at least 3 or 4 times with each change. I think it's just the age...

Ash is also a biter. He really only bites me and I think it is an affectionate thing. I've tried a few things to stop it but nothings really worked. He actually constantly does it, if I'm sitting on the floor he'll come over and bite my leg, arm, whatever he can get. I always say 'no biting' and move him away, but we're not really getting anywhere with it. I guess I'm just hoping he'll grow out of it.

Anyway, that was a bit of a marathon post... Hope everyone is doing well x

i am hearing everyone on the nappy changes! it is clearly SUCH an inconvenience to have to lie still for a minute when there is so much invesitgating to do :lol: i also sing songs & give him things like tubes of moisturiser to hold while i do the quickest possible change!

a few people from my mother's group have a special toy that is just for nappy change time.

cate - glad to hear zac is all better now. that must have been horrible. hope nigel is ok too.

deb - it's always good to hear from you. i saw your FB post the other day re-sleeping & i can totally relate. hope you're hanging in there okay :hug:

miss e - it must be such a relief to have ash sleeping again! sounds like CC was a good option for you guys :)

ss_storm - hayley sounds like she's been so busy learning lots of new stuff! i love the chattering. it's such a beautiful age they're at...although i think i've said that at every stage :lol:

jetta - i hope you & sam are still enjoyign playgroup! we've just started & it seems like a lot of fun. and all those teeth! sam has been busy!

jessica - good to hear from you. sounds like sophie is going well :)

and HI jas if you're reading :D

afu, corey is still going well with the crawling & furniture cruising. thankfully he learnt how to get down from standing which cut out alot of frustration fir him. he stands by himself now, although not for too long! (and has bruises on his bum to show for it :lol:). tooth number 8 is through & his eczema is much better. he still wakes frequently though which is the only downer :lol:

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Hi everyone :hello:

Sorry I haven't been in for a while, I was getting a bit too involved with BB and forced myself to take a break. That and I was starting to get a bit down because everyone elses babies seemed to be going great guns and Isaac was, well, not.

In the last month however he's had a developmental explosion. He's learnt to crawl, pull himself up to his knees on furnitire (he's trying very hard to get to his feet but despite using every muscle in his body, he's just not budging lol), he waves hello consistantly and sometimes goodbye, walk when being held up and led, and if I hold him up he can walk while holding his ride on car, eat finger food (when he feels like it / can be bothered :lol:), worked out object permanence, is alot more talkative and I'm sure there's more I missed. It's like a light has switched on in his head.

His sleep has regressed quite a bit but with all that he's learning I'm not really suprised. He's waking 2 or 3 times a night. Hopefully he goes back to sleeping through soon I'm going a bit loopy with lack of sleep and he wakes up at between 4:30 and 5:30 each morning, most days he'll go back to sleep but not always.It's soo draining.
Daysleeps are still quite bad, I have to feed him to sleep for each nap, I try to get him to self settle but he just plays until he's overtired then cries until I pick him up.

I'll try to get in here a bit more often, I find that once I get on the computer I don't get off and time really gets away from me. I'm thinking of limiting my PC time to after Isaac's gone to bed for the night but then of course DF wants all my attention and gets shirty with me for being on the computer. :wall:

DF is jobless at the moment, he's driving me a bit nuts, as much as I love him I don't want him hanging offme all day everyday. I really feel like I have 2 children except one of them is 23 yo. Any suggestions on how I can get him to be a bit more pro-active with getting a job without hurting his feelings? I don't want him to feel like I dont want him around, because I do. I just don't want him around ALL the time. It probably wouldn't bother me so much if he didn't want as much if not more attention than DS. It's like he's constantantly competing with DS. Maybe he's feeling a bit left out IDK. Anyway enough of my problems lol.


How are you and your families going? I'd love a quick update if you feel like it. :)

Take care xx

WOW quiet in here....

all busy chasing after busy babies :lol:

Maybe I'm just impatient :lol::think:

I know, I miss the constant chatter that we used to have...

It's great to have you back Heva and I'm glad Isaac is doing so well. It's amazing how differently they all develop isn't it. There's a little girl in my mothers group who isn't crawling yet, but she started saying mumma and dadda months ago and is already clapping her hands. I think like the rest of us some bubs are more physically inclined while others are develop faster mentally iykwim. But it is so nice to see them learn new tricks!

Sloane it is so much fun to watch them cruising around isn't it! You can just see that they love their new found independence too. Ash is just starting to let go of things and stand for a few seconds before he realises and grabs hold again. It's funny cos he clearly had the strength but just not the confidence.

Storm, hope you and little Hayley are doing well.

And Hi! to all the other mums and bubs, be great to get an update from you guys.

We're tracking along pretty well here. Ash is becoming a bit of a fussy eater which is a PIA. I think I just need to get a bit tougher and not bring out his favourites if he isn't eating. He's also just started saying Mum. He's only got it out a few times, but when he wants me to pick him up he now makes a MMMMMM MMMMMM noise so I think he knows that I'm Mumma which is lovely.

Hi all :)

Miss E, Pie is much the same - she has the strength & I think the balance to stand but not the confidence. She loves to walk around holding our hands but if we let one go she will start looking for something to grab onto.
I hear you on the different development too. Her cousin (yes, BIL is still with us :() has only just started sitting alone, not even close to crawling. But if you tell him to clap hands he will. Pie can clap , but not on command :lol:
Lots of mum & dad noises but I don't think there's any meaning in it - not quite yet ;)

and we have our first tooth! it finally cut through last week and the one next to it is on the way as well. You still can't see it really well but beware of getting your fingers too close to her mouth :lol:

that's about it for us... I had a bit of a meltdown last week but I think it let off a bit of steam, I am feeling a bit better this week. It's just too little time, and never any space! gets to me after a bit. I am really over work too.. meh what are you gonna do? :dunno: gotta work. Should be working now :rofl:

Hope everyone else is well :grouphug:

heva - it's great to see you back! i know what you mean about getting too involved. i find myself going through phases of posting frenzies & then taking a back seat for a week or two. how's your DF going? i can see how that might drive you a bit crazy! and it sounds like your DS has had a wonderfully busy month!

fleur - :hug: so glad to hear you're feeling better. sometimes a meltdown can so therapeutic! it's good to get it out there & let people know what's going on...cos we'll never get sick of telling you how much we love ya!

miss e - the cruising sure is funny. and the looks on their faces when they realise they're not holding on to anything. priceless!

hi to everyone else! hope you're all doing well :)

out of nowhere on sunday, corey started clapping. DP & i were eating toasted sandwiches so i gave corey a little bit of toast to munch on. he looked at both of us eating, then looked at his piece of toast & started clapping & couldn't stop smiling. seems like it might be necessary to bounce up & down while clapping as well.

does anyone know when the first molars come through? i have some info around somewhere but i've obviously put it somewhere 'safe' :lol: corey seems to be back in teething overdrive & i had it in my head that the first lot of molars may be teeth 9 & 10. all the others have come through in the standard order, so i'm guessing they might continue that way?

hi all

heva - nice to hear from you again. Sounds like Isaac is really making up for lost time!

missE - I suppose it's just a matter of time before they become fussy about what they eat really. I've been quite conscious of not just feeding Zac the foods that I know go down well, but there are days when the temptation to just give him something safe is pretty high!

Fleur - god, I don't know how you do it. It's hard enough just living sometimes without having to share your space with extra people isn't it?

AFU - well, April seems to be our month of crappiness. Hopefully it all ends once the month finishes :pray: We have seriously had enough! ill health all around, car problems (I still don't have my car back 4 weeks after the mechanic sent the tow truck), financial... and it's not just us - my sister- and brother-in-law are having similar problems, so our entire family (all of us that are here in Australia) are really struggling right now.

Zac has five very sharp teeth now, pulls himself up to standing, will stagger a few steps to mummy or daddy (with hands held), makes a lot of noise, but still only commando crawls (it works for him obviously), hasn't worked out how to get into sitting position (except from standing!), and is just the happiest little fellow. In fact, he's what gets us through when everything else is looking black :D

Cate- hope May is a better month for you :( Hayley still only commando crawls too, and it's really starting to annoy me when people keep asking if she is crawling 'properly' yet...my little brother used to crawl with his toes, so ya know whatever works for them! She is quite happy scooting around on her tummy!

Fleur- I keep going to call you Jasp all the time :redface: yay for Arlea's first tooth! They'll probably all fly up now..although Hayley still only has the one and can't feel anymore coming up just yet.

Heva- good to hear from you, Isaac & Hayley seem to be on the same page, she just had a huge week where all of a sudden she took off where before it seemed like she hadn't learnt anything new for a while. Sorry to hear about your DF's job. Can you suggest he see a career's counselor or something to give him a boot up the bum? Hope he finds something soon and is out of your hair!

Miss E- I wouldnt worry too much about Ash being a fussy eater...just keep offering and if he is hungry he will eat it. I think it's supposed to take them a few goes before they decide if they like something or not. Must make it hard for you though, I hate throwing stuff out if Hayley decides she doesn't want to eat and chucks a wobbly.

Sloane- Corey sounds so cute with his clapping antics! He must have been so proud of himself :)

Hayley is really starting to want to stand all the time, still very wobbly though, but loves to bounce up and down, quite violently sometimes! and seems to like doing the yoga position downward dog..LOL. I think she's going to have a bit of a temper too (probably takes after me :redface: ) if we take a toy or something (like the washer when she is in the bath) she starts screeching and throws herself back, same if I close the front door when I go to put her down for a sleep. If we don't go outside and I just shut the door she'll start crying and throwing herself back!

Hi Guys!!!!

It is so much quieter in here, and Miss E I know what you mean, we use to chat all the time! I guess as life gets busier and the kids need more attention, people go back to work!! But it is so great that we do all still continue to catch up! Wow, everyone's babies are growing up so much! I can't believe that so many of you are almost at walking stage!
It sounds like everyone has been going through a lot from colds, sicknesses to feeling down for a bit. I hope that everyone is getting better this month. I have just read through everyone's posts and everyone is doing so well. We should be very proud of ourselves.
SS Storm - Sam sometimes has a bit of a tember too! I think that now they are realising that they do want things or don't want things and they have the ability to make their own mind up. He now screeches if we take something away from him. In the morning for breakfast, if I don't have it ready for him straight away he gets all upset, but now he knows that he has to wait for the toast to pop up or mummy to make the porridge so when I look at him and say excuse me, SAm we do have to wait - he kind of backs off a little!! not every morning though!
Lovelycate- I hope this month is better and things with the car are okay. So many teeth now! Aren't they sharp!! Sam has 7 now - I love his little toothy grins!

Miss E - so glad that things are getting better with sleep. I totally agree with the CC. Sometimes they just need a little push. We just made our bed routine the same - dinner, bath every 2nd night, pj's, turn the night light on, bedtime story, cuddle and then we say goodnight to everyone and the dog. I always let him cry for around 10 minutes and eventually he got it. If he wakes up in the night on the odd occasion he sometimes finds it hard to go back to sleep as because he rarely does it, I think when it does it startles him. So glad to hear that you are getting more sleep though! Well done Ash!
Sloane - wow! Corey is clapping! I try to show Sam how to clap but I dont think he is interested. He hates me holding his hands for too long! Not sure why! Not sure about the molars - I didn't think it was for a while though.

Fleur - hope you are feeling better and feel better after letting off steam. Things get tough sometimes but hang in there!

heva- sorry to hear about your df losing his job. That must be hard and it can be so hard getting a new one. I am probably a really stooge but if my hubby was hanging around and expecting me to look after him as well as Sam, I would be having words! After a few weeks I would say enough is enough! Can you try going out a bit, like to the park and stuff so that he then thinks, well I should do something too? Not sure if that is any good advice at all!

Sorry if I have left anyone out! Hope everyone else is doing well.

AFM, Sam is doing really well. We are not near you guys with the standing up yet! He bears heaps of weight on his legs when I stand him up but doesn't do it himself yet. Loves crawling, more of commando style still - has to carry something in one hand and use the other one to push himself along! It is quite funny. Bits of toys are everywhere! Babbling and talking lots. When I point out planes or birds in the sky he looks up so Miss E, I agree with you about language. I think they understand so much more than what we think. We are going away tomorrow for 4 days with some friends who don't have kids so that could be interesting!! Sam will be going to the beach so I bought a bucket and spade for him! Should be nice to get away for a few days and hopefully he will settle into a new sleeping place. I feel like I have packed the entire kitchen though!
Gave Sam is flu vaccine a few weeks ago and then freaked out about all these kids getting sick. It is awful, I don't think I would cope if something had happened to him. We ummed and arrhed about getting it done too.
Sam isn't pulling himself up to sitting yet but loves being a poser and lying on his side! Eating cheese, ham and avocado sandwhiches for lunch - stuffs almost the entire quater into his mouth and is pretty much eating what we are just slightly mushed but not much.
Anyway, I think I have rattled on enough!!! Will try to post again soon!
Take care everyone.
Soon there will be lots of disussion on first birthdays!! We are thinking of getting a Smarttrike for Sam! So exciting!!! If you guys were in Sydney I would invite you all!!

Hi everyone

Suzy - hope you are having a lovely time away. Will it be Sam's first time at the beach? Sounds like he is going well with food :-) What is a smarttrike?

ss-Storm - Hayley sounds like she is developing a strong personality ;-) I suspect our babies are getting closer to the age where we will see some good tantrums!

Sarah - how gorgeous that Corey is clapping! the info I've got on teeth says that the first molars usually arrive between 12-18 months, but maybe since he's doing so well with solids he's decided he needs some better chewing 'equipment'!

AFU - well, one day left of April. I'm holding out hope that tomorrow will herald the beginning of lots of good stuff happening :clap: Things haven't been that bad really for the last week, but they haven't exactly been fantastic either! It's so nice, when everything else seems to be going wrong, to be able to look at my beautiful smiley little boy :-)

Speaking of beautiful smiley little boy - his day sleeps have gone weird again. He's started standing up in his cot and shaking the rails, and just cries and cries. I've been able to feed him to sleep for one day sleep the last couple of days, but that's it - so he has only had one sleep each day! Surely it's too soon for that? I'm hoping that the standing up thing is just a phase he's going through and that he will re-learn how to go to sleep.

Hope Zac's sleeping improves...we've been through a few phases where she would only have one day sleep, for the other one she would either cry or roll around in her cot (and now sit up in her cot/pull herself up on the side) or just chatter away. So it might be another of those 'this too shall pass' things.

We've had trouble with night sleeping the last 4 or so nights...she goes to bed fine at about 7.30 but as soon as I head off to bed she wakes up crying and I haven't been able to get her back to sleep unless I feed her. I've tried not feeding her but she just cries and cries, she'll start falling asleep on me but as soon as I put her in her cot she wakes up and starts crying again. I was up until midnight last night! DF reckons it's teeth, and it's possible I just don't know why she wakes as soon as I go to bed, I do check on her before I go but I didn't think that would wake her up. I just know I couldn't go to sleep until I'd poked my head in and checked she was still breathing. I just get so frustrated that she won't go back to sleep, I'm exhausted and DF just sits in his office...I have yelled at her, I know it doesn't help and I feel so guilty for doing it, but just can't stop it coming out :redface:

Miss E - Thanks. :) I am so relieved when Isaac started crawling lol. I know what you mean about some bubs developing quicker mentally or physically, I was worried because Isaac didn't seem to be doing either lol, apparently he was just saving them all up.
YAY for Ash knowing your mum! How exciting! Isaac's been saying mum and dad for a while but so far I don't think they have any meaning to him they're just sounds.

Fleur - how long has your BIL been there?
Pfft to work, BB is MUCH more important. lol

Sloane - WooHoo on the clapping! I thought everyone bounced up and down when they clapped?? :lol: He sounds so cute.
DF ... um, well, we had a big fight yesterday morning because he doesn't want me to talk to anyone about my problems. He thinks I should just come to him with everything and after talking about it that it's all better again, I admitted to him that I think my depression has come back and told him I feel like I'm being emotionally abused (he tries to tell me who/where and when I can see and speak to people, gives me guilt trips if something doesn't go his way etc). I'm feeling quite isolated as I only have one IRL friend in Bris and I'm not "allowed" to see him when DF is not around. If I talk to anyone about anything I have to relay the whole conversation back to DF and if I forget something he gets angry with me and tells me I'm hiding things from him. :rolleyes:
Obviously big trust issues there, none of which are warranted.
He still hasn't got a job and isn't really trying to get one, he's just doing the bare minimum for centrelink so we get the payment and no more (which BTW I think is really wrong but he doesn't seem to care)

Cate - Thanks :) Hooray for May! I know what you mean about Zac getting you through, I feel the same way. Whenever things are crap I hug/ look at my little man and just for a little while the problems dissappear. ♥

SS-storm- I would if I thought he'd go but I told him yesterday he needs to sort out his trust issues towards me (I've never done anything to give him reason not to trust me) and because after 2 years he hasn't gotten even slightly better, I want him to see a councellor. He flat refused and told me that was never going to happen so I doubt very much that he'd see a careers councellor either.
Isaac's the same with standing, he loves it and as soon as he's on his feet he just wants to bounce for ages and look out if you stop, on the upside I'm getting some rather good looking biceps though, lol. I hear you on the temper too, Isaac cracks it almost everytime he doesn't get his way lol I definately think they are begining to assert thier independance.
:hugs:I am the same with the yelling, a while back we went througha patch where Isaac would just scream at me and nothing I did could calm him. It gets soo frustrating and even though you know they dont upset you on purpose,it can get you so angry. I think it's only human to have to release that anger and frustration somewhere and every now and then it gets too much to take and you explode. I'm sure she wont even remember, let alone hold it against you if it gets the better of you now and then. :hug: Maybe your DF stays in his office because he doesn't want to interrupt you? ITMS? I think that's why my DF tends to not intervene when I really wish he would.

Jetta- It's not so much that he does nothing all day, he does do housework and stuff, but he would happily choose to wash the dishes over playing with Isaac. If I go out he has to come too. I just can't get away even for a minute. I have said stuff to him but he takes it as a personal attack rather than a gentle nudge.
I'll be at Sam's 1st b'day in spirit, better keep a close eye on the cake, it's my weekness(well one of many) ;)

AFU - Isaac has had a cold the last day or two and has been waking up every hour or so at night wanting a feed, then he'll have two sucks, crack it because he can't breathe and throw himself around a bit, then go back to sleep.
He's almost learnt how to clap as well (yay!!) he's done it twice in the last couple of days. Apart from those two times he "claps" by holding one hand up and waving at it with the other or he'll hold my thumbs and clap my hands for me.lol.
We were aving trouble getting Isaac to eat because he always wanted to be fed rather than do it himself, but that seems to be going better now so yay!
I'm counting every little yay ATM no matter how tiny. lol

Anyway, enough from me.:rolleyes: I always seem to rabbit on for ages lol. I guess I'm making up for all the talking I dont do IRL. :lol:

:hug: everyone.

Cate, re one day sleep - I would be hoping it's too early! but my two DS's dropped theirs very early so you never know. I would be more inclined to think (and hope!) that it's just a stage.
Hope May brings you much nicer days :hug:

Heva, big hugs to you. I was going to suggest counselling & then I re-read your post :(
Honey, I don't think it's very fair of your DH to say to you that you shouldn't talk to anyone else. It's un-realistic of him to expect that talking to him will fix everything. I really think it might be worth you talking to someone, your GP even. You don't necessarily have to tell your DP. IMO we are entitled to a bit of privacy even from our loving partners, you know?
But even if you do decide not to see anyone IRL you know you can come on here & vent :hug:

Storm, don't feel bad, it's soooo normal to have a little melt-down, you know ;)
I have lost count of the number of times I have yelled at my kids, not at Miss Pie yet but I am sure it's only because I have bigger kids to yell at instead :rolleyes:

I don't feel great about it either, actually really crappy but I think we have to remember we're not super-women (although I have been asked where my cape is a couple of times ;)) - it is hard being a mum, and it is hard being a good mum and being responsible for this life, this little person and not just keeping them alive but making sure they grow into nice, well-adjusted people.
We get a manual with our appliances, and when we learn to drive, and instructions on how to assemble our furniture, but the most important job in the world, and no-one can tell you 'this is exactly how you do it'.
It's very hard when you are so frustrated, not to take it out on whoever is there. I hope things settle down soon, and she stops waking as you go to bed...and I KWYM about checking on them, I am still like that with DS2!

Ok, off my soapbox now, lol.
We are all doing such a great job!
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woops we fell onto the second page ;)

Cate- Hayley has some days where she only has one sleep, she'll just refuse to go to sleep and muck around in her cot instead...it's frustrating but at least that night she'll go to bed early, at about 6.30!

Heather- hope little Isaac is over his cold soon :( there were so many sick kids at playgroup last week I'm considering not going back until winter is over...it's just too hard when they get sick and if I can avoid it I will! Hope the situation with your DF gets better soon, would be nice if he took it upon himself to want to do something for his family, instead of just getting by on the bare minimum :hug:

Fleur- how is little Pie going? And yep, sometimes I wish we were given an instruction book, or that they all worked the same way..but i guess that's half the fun of parenting! Lol

AFU- Hayley started saying "Mum" today! After so many months of going dad dad dad dad...lol. She sort of says "bub" too, but I don't think she realises what 'bub' or 'mum' means. She knows dad though! She's standing up lots, hasn't had any falls for a few days though (probably just jinxed myself..).

I'm still at a loss with her sleeping...I've been trying to get her back to sleep when she wakes as I'm going to bed but nothing works except putting her in bed with me, which I don't want to be an every night thing. DF doesn't like her being in our bed, and while I don't mind it I dont want it to be all night every night, I need some space too! DF thinks I should try cutting back on her day sleeps, so she would only be having one sleep a day, but I don't know because then she is exhausted by 6.30, but maybe if I dropped her morning sleep and she just had an arvo one she would be ok? I'm not ready for her to only have one sleep though, that's my time!

I just don't know what to do next or what to try because nothing seems to work...she won't settle unless I pick her up and then starts crying as soon as I put her back even if she is asleep when I put her back down. i don't know if she is "playing me" as some people have told me, or if there is some genuine reason why she keeps waking up and won't go back to sleep. Whilst I don't mind trying controlled crying I am definitely not going to let her CIO as DF sometimes suggests...but then CC doesn't seem to work either as she gets so worked up and won't stop until I pick her up.

and tonight I can't even get her to go to sleep! :wall:

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I just don't know what to do next or what to try because nothing seems to work...she won't settle unless I pick her up and then starts crying as soon as I put her back even if she is asleep when I put her back down. i don't know if she is "playing me" as some people have told me, or if there is some genuine reason why she keeps waking up and won't go back to sleep.

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It's been awhile since I've had time to post in here - been reading though - but my DS had been doing the same - waking when I put him down in the cot in the middle of the night when he was asleep for a while before putting him down, I've started to make sure that his hand was near one of his teddies (we have a lullaby seahorse/worm thing that I use) so that his hand bumps the teddy when he moves - he can think it's my breast and go back to sleep and it seems to be working so far. He's been feeding back to sleep at night and won't let DH settle him back to sleep.

SS- You've probably already thought of this but, could it be wind? DS almost always wakes up if I dont give his back a rub before I put him to bed.

Hi everyone :hello:

It has been forever since I posted in here :redface: I went back to work full time in Jan and have been flat out ever since. DH is in his last placement as well so things are just a bit crazy with that as well.

Fred is doing really well. She is crawling really quickly but wants to walk everywhere holding our hands. She waits for us to hold both hands and the charges off where ever she likes. She tried walking under a table last week and looked at me strangely when I didn't follow her under there! She stands well but still needs to hold onto something. She also claps at us and waves it is the cutest things. Her bed time routine involves waving good night to everyone before going to bed and now she does it automattically... again really cute.

Once I have had a chance to read up I hope I will be back for personals :)

SS - I had the same thing with DD1 - eventually I took her to the Dr's and found she had an ear infection, it only hurt when she was lying down on the bed, not when she was in my arms. Coud that could be something to check out?

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Fred is doing really well. She is crawling really quickly but wants to walk everywhere holding our hands. She waits for us to hold both hands and the charges off where ever she likes. She tried walking under a table last week and looked at me strangely when I didn't follow her under there! She stands well but still needs to hold onto something. She also claps at us and waves it is the cutest things. Her bed time routine involves waving good night to everyone before going to bed and now she does it automattically... again really cute.

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That's so cute. :lol: @ the table.

Never thought of that Ryatha..thankyou! I might take her to the drs just in case...i have noticed she has a bit of an excess of ear wax lately. She cries most times I lay her down on the change table to change her nappy too...I thought she was just protesting but it could be that it hurts :dunno:

heather- she rarely burps after her bottles these days (unless DF bounces her up and down :rolleyes: ) so I don't think she has wind pain, but then again with babies you never know! There is some natural remedy, like Infant's friend or something for wind isn't there? Might get some and see if that helps..at this point I'm willing to try anything to get her to stop waking up so early!
the funny thing is she will sleep right through the night if she is in bed with me, so I should love that fact, but I wouldn't mind her waking up (after she had been asleep for at least 4-5 hours!) once a night if she was in her own cot!

We have infants friend. It works really well. :) Haven't tried anything else but there are a few on the market.
I hope she's not in pain, but at least if it is an ear infection then you can fix it and she hopefully goes back to normal. :)
*hugs* It's so hard when you don't know whats wrong.

AFU - I burnt Isaac's hand today :( I went to wash his hands under the kitchen tap and didn't realise the mixer was on hot! (our hot water is unbelievably hot too, almost boiling) and stuck his and my hand under. It didn't burn me too badly cause I do it to myself all the time :doh: But his skin is so sensitive. Not surprisingly he screamed!
I put his hand under cold running water straight away.
My poor little boy :( I feel so horrible for doing it to him, of course it was an accident but I feel like such a terrible mum for doing it to him :cry:. He's fine now, it's not red or anything and doesn't seem to be bothering him at all. But I feel so bad. Then DF says "how did you not realise it was on hot?" Thanks DF that makes me feel much better.

Quick one from me tonight. We are well, I ahve been flat-out with work this week.

Arlea is standing alone now :o she has been doing it for a bit at night on our bed but last Saturday at DS1's football she did it for the first time for real... stood up holding onto me & let go. Now she thinks she is very clever & uses every opportunity to show off.
She won't go anywhere though unless we are holding both hands, she is very definite about that. So a few weeks off walking yet.

Ryatha good to hear from you :hug: glad everything is going well.

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Arlea is the same and we have had our first tantrums, when we get tired of walking around bent double, she screams & squeals until someone else takes over. I think we are growing a little Diva :lol:

Heva :hug: it happens hun, don't beat yourself up about it, it has happened to most of us. It is upsetting but as you say he seems to be fine, if he's not bothered then it's time for you to be ok too ;) :comfort:

Storm how is Hayley going?

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:hug: Heather, Isaac won't even remember...I know I've burnt Hayley's mouth a couple of times with food i thought was ok, but must have been a bit too warm for her :redface: And I don't have enough fingers to count how many times I've burnt myself with the hot tap!

fleur- woo go Arlea! It's a bit sad though...she's not going to be a little dependant baby anymore!

Hayley has been a bit better with sleeping the last couple of days, although we had a shocker the other night. she went to bed at 7 when she conked out during her bottle (she only had one sleep that day so was exhausted!) woke up at 7.30 with a tummy ache, got her to burp and she was asleep at 8 when someone bashed on the door and woke her up again! couldn't get her back to sleep until about 9.30 and then it started pouring down rain at 10 and was so loud on the tin roof it woke her up...after that i put her in bed with me for the night :rolleyes:
if she is in bed with me she'll sleep right through the night, she might stir a few times but doesn't wake up, I just wish she would do that in her own bed!

the last couple of nights she's woken up at about 12.30/1am and goes back to sleep in her cot until about 6, and after that I chuck her in bed with me. This morning she slept until after 8!
Apart from her sleeping issue she's been going pretty well. Pulling herself up on everything- including her playgym, I keep having to put it on it's side so she doesn't go A over T!
she started saying "mum mum mum" a couple of days ago, so gorgeous! And she sort of says "bub bub bub" too. Although not on demand...I tried to get her to say it to my mum today while I was talking to her on the phone and she would just smile but not say anything. cheeky bugger!

Fleur - GO ARLEA!! :leap:Clever girl.
I just felt realy stupid I guess, I have no idea why I didn't check first. It was the worst possible moment for brain fade :wall:

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AFU - We've had a really good last couple of days, aside from me burning Isaac's hand.
He's really getting around now, crawling faster than I can walk. He's also quite good at walking supported, as in I can hold his hands and he'll walk by himself, I don't have to lead him and he LOVES it! (Fleur - We get the tanties too, although not to that extent yet, he will crack it when I put him back down.)
He's almost cruising too! He took a couple of steps across while holding onto me. He seems reluctant to try it on furniture though, I've tried encouraging him with toys but he just doesn't seem to want to try. :dunno: He'll do it in his own time I guess.
We had a fantastic day today, first we watched a cement truck pour some concrete outside our house, it was very exciting. lol Then after his sleep we went to the park at the end of our street and had a little picnic lunch and a play on the swings.
I took a couple of pics today so I'll put them up on FB soon.

DF had a job interview today and... HE GOT IT! :yeah: His hours are really good too, 1pm to 8pm, so the three of us can be together in the morning, then he goes to work and I get some time with just Isaac and me, until he's asleep and then DF and I can watch some TV or something until our bedtime. I'm so stoked! I just hope his car doesn't wake up Isaac when he get home of a night :fingerscrossed:

:cheer:It's been such a great day:bluecheer:


Hope everyones well.

Awesome news Heva!! :dance: :hug: happy for you both :D

Great news Heather! He must have been the man for the job if they let him know that quickly! when does he start?

He starts monday. They told him at the interview :)

How'd your DP go at his new job Heather?

After DD's sleep getting better for a couple of days, it's gone back to crapness again...and like she did once before she's been waking about an hour after I put her to bed for the night. *sigh*
She started cruising the lounge chair today, shuffling across it, whilst pulling the newspaper off it and scattering it all over the floor :rolleyes: very cute to watch though, she thinks she is so clever! I've tried a couple of times to help her walk while I'm holding her hands but she just stands there and wobbles, or falls down on her bum. So I think walking is still a fair way off. Would be nice if she actually crawled properly first!
Her second tooth has just popped through, looks funny because now she has two bottom teeth but they aren't at the same height! WIll really have to watch my fingers now.

Have got a few little pressies for DD's birthday, I can't believe she'll be 10 months on Wednesday! They'll be a year old in no time! I bought a few little things from MillaRuby Designs (Caddie from BB) she has so many lovely things...but I bought her a little stuffed giraffe, a headband (it's a bit big though) and a size 2 skirt, think I might have to leave the skirt for a Christmas present though, it's pretty big. I also got her a little trolley with stacking blocks in it from a big market we had here when the Falling of the Leaf festival was on a few weeks ago. She's been playing with it and DF keeps saying its not going to be her b'day present anymore...I might have to wrap it up soon so she can't play with it anymore! Lol.
I'd like to get her a swing set or something for outside, but don't know if she is too young for something like that yet? Not really sure what else to get her...

How's everyone else going?

SS - He seems to have enjoyed it. He just got home so haven't heard much about it yet. It was soo nice to just have some time to ourselves today. :D I really missed it and feel so much more relaxed now. I haven't even thought about buying prezzies yet. Maybe I should...??
Bugger on the sleep :( Just when you think it's sorted they change it up again.
Go hayley! Yay!
They grow up so fast! I can't believe how old our LO's are now and how far they've come! It's kinda scary. lol

AFU - We had a really great day, I posted it in a thread before but I'm going to post it again because it made me smile...

I was trying(and not getting very far:lol:) to get DS(10 months) to sleep and he was getting a bit upset so I put his dummy in to calm him down. He was still chucking a wobbly so I picked him up and he looked at me for a minute.
Then he took the dummy out of his mouth, stuck his finger in between my lips so I'd open mine and put the dummy in my mouth. :o

It was really cute and he was soo proud of himself (and so was I)
Do you think it was a physical awareness thing ie he's realised that I have a mouth like him? or just a what happens if I stick this in here?

Aside from that we didn't do too much, just the usual stuff.
He's recently started being a bit more independant with his eating. Before he would make me feed him his finger foods. lol I'd be telling him the whole time that the point of finger foods is that he uses his fingers not mine. lol. Anyway yesterday he decided he'd do it himself. "GREAT!" I thought. Today he decided that he'd squish it all up to the point it's only possible to eat it with a spoon :doh: :lol:

There was a violinist on oprah today playing "flight of the bumble bee". Isaac was totally mesmerised by it. He even had a bit of a sook when it was over lol.

Hope everyone else had a great day/ week :)
How were your mother's days??