Babies born~May 16th-31st 2009 #6

Hey Girls

I had a crappy sleep last night...Cara was miserable. Gave her panadol about midnight, she woke up about 7 times!! (no joke!) Sometimes my back is sore from swapping sides of the bed to feed her! She has two top middle teeth just bulging under the gums ready to break through. She usually sleeps well from 9pm-7.30am, just wakes up, breastfeed. straight back to sleep. But not last night. Nasty teeth..I am sure we will all be happy when they have a break from teething for a lil while. Cara has had 4 teeth now (almost) within a month almost! Can't blame the girl for being fed up. She got the other 2 bottom teeth around 6mths.

I set up the wiggles playpen today. I've never had a fancy playpen before..usually just a wooden one..but I gave it away ages ago. It's a nice colourful one with things on the side panel for them to play with (mirror, phone, dial etc). She isn't crawling yet, but she can get herself around on her tummy VERY well. She can cover a lot of ground. This morning it almost looked like she was crawling!! Not far away. She's up on all 4s a lot and trying to pull up. She's so heavy though, she doesn't stand for long hehe. I just thought I'd get the playpen out for the times I can't watch her....doing certain housework etc. She pulled the playstation down the other day. I am sure in time she'll see it as a prison. But I don't want to stick her in there too often.

Cara seems much worse with these teeth than the other 4. She has been biting me on the boob HEAPS in the last 24 hours. I yell "OWWWWWWWWWWWW" (can't help it, it hurts), and she comes off and looks at me. She knows it is wrong. Occasionally she will cry if she knows she's hurt me. And then goes back on the boob and is fine.

All you teething Mums! Hang in there!! It will get better! hehe

To all you Mums that are going back to work/have gone back to work...all the best!! I've never done it before (work and be a Mum). Give yourselves a pat on the back and make hubby spoil you sometimes (and I hope he does his share of the chores too). Doing two very important jobs is HARD WORK! You ladies are the true wonder women! SuperMums!

LOL BG, Dildocam...had to laugh.
I called it the darf vader wand....hehehe
Kyrstie we did the antagonist cycle like Nay oh the good old days of being a human pin cushion....BUT SOOOO WORTH IT!!

Seems like all us mums are being woken up around the clock...Aaron is the same waking up every 2.5 to 4 hours :wall: Not too sure if it's a growth spurt or teeth...He has his top two and bottom two and has for a while so have no idea.
Also very Velcro baby.... Me and my shadow are like two peas in a pod!!

Here is hoping for a good night sleep for all of us :pray:

BG - meant to mention before and forgot - 2 days is a nice way to settle in - hilariously April 20th was my first day of maternity leave last year LOL. Hope it all goes well, will pass on any 'return to work' hints I come across... :)

Cathy - thanks for the vote of confidence re being a working Mum, but I reckon having 4 kids gives your supermum status too babe ;)

Nic - I'd do it all over again in a heartbeat, it is definately soooooo worth it :)

Cathy - I just leave Kyson's teething necklace on overnight. I usually only take it off while he's eating (don't want food crusty's in between beads, lol), and for water activities like the bath, pool, shower etc.
Isn't it so cute when the bub's start learning new tricks? Lol. Kyson has got "gimme 5" down pat. He also sometimes waves bye bye. It's funny when I want him to wave hello to someone and instead I have to say bye bye to him to get him to wave hehe.

Nay - I've given Kyson a smidge of vegemite before. I put it on a little sandwich because I wasn't sure what else I could put on a sandwich for him. I kept it very light though.

Jacinta - Nice hcg level! That IS what the number on fb was yeah? ;)

Amy - Hopefully by the time I get worried about changing seats for Kyson you'll have it all worked out and I'll just be able to ask you! ;) My problem at the moment is that DH's car has leather seats and I hate how much Kyson's seat moves on them. He's still rear facing and the front of the seat (where his head is) seems to moves from side to side a bit when the car is going around corners. DH says it's normal, but I still don't like it. My car is so small that his seat touches both front seats. That's not meant to be the best thing, but I figure if I'm in a car accident that's bad enough for the front seats to push back and affect his seat, then then a cm or two between his seat and the front seats isn't really going to make a whole balogne sandwich worth of difference...
PS. I've seen one of Bella's wraps in person and it was gorgeous. I love how she coordinates her wrap with her outfit! :rofl:

Vic - What a naughty little monkey Cerys is when you are telling her off, hehe. Sometimes when I growl "too rough" at Kyson he smiles at me too and gosh it's so hard not to laugh or smile at them!
What a sneaky tooth number 5. Hopefully now that it's here you'll get a better nights sleep tonight.

Bella - What a nice little sleep-in you got this morning. Hopefully her single waking through the night is a new trend. It's much better than the 4 times a night!
Also, should I be secretly hoping that you have an "accident" despite planning on waiting to ttc? ;)

Nicole - I completely agree with Bella. If the doc's were concerned then I'm sure they would have gotten you to come in earlier.

Bridg - Fantastic news about the hips! Does that mean he's gotten the all clear?

BG and Nay - Firstly, LMAO @ dildocam! Classic! I felt a little embarassed when DH went for his sperm analysis, and then realised that surely it's much worse for us girls that actually have objects inserted INSIDE us! LOL!

As for whether my cycle will be the down-cycle or antagonist one (thanks for the terminology!), I actually have no idea to be honest. It was mostly spoken about at the compulsory counciling session which was like a group info session where they really generalised what a typical cycle might consist of. Then our PGD session yesterday was more about the actual science of how they were going to test the embies (exactly how you explained it BG!), rather than what my cycle would entail. I guess I'll find out the particulars next wednesday :)

My assumption is that we're not going to use ICSI (pending DH's swimmer analysis results, but considering they've worked 3 times before...), and the good news about my ovaries is that my baseline pelvic ultrasound showed at least 20 folicles in each ovary. Apparently that is ideal for a stimulated cycle (yay ovaries!). Oh, here's a fun fact! Before having Kyson I had a retroverted uterus (the top sloped in the wrong direction), but apparently now it's in the normal position, lol!

We started going through Melb IVF, but weren't too keen on the geneticist. So our specialist told us that we might want to start a-fresh with Monash IVF (as they are totally seperate and don't have anything to do with each other), and we've been really happy with everyone we've dealt with at Monash so far. I almost laughed when the Monash genetecist just happened to mention a study he had done with the Melbourne genetecist. We just smiled and nodded ;)

At Monash IVF they wait until day 3 for cell collection and the embie has to have at least 5 cells. We've been told to expect that not all eggs will fertilise, then that some won't be suitable to test, and then that at least 50% won't be suitable for transfer. Fingers crossed my ovaries decide to churn out quite a few eggs to up the chances! At least our chance of the embie that's transferred (assuming we have one) sticking as apparently quite good.

Gosh, I'm really taking over this thread with all this! Hopefully the mods won't smac me for being off-topic...

BG - Also just wanted to say that I think you are pretty special. You always have so much time to give to others when it comes to advice, help and support. Not just for me, and not just in this thread, but I've seen how much you help others with centrelink info as well! You should be proud of yourself because you really help others!

Cathy (again :) ) - Oh please tell me that they DO get a break from teething at some point. I don't know how me (or Kyson) will hope if this goes on much longer. And he hasn't even got ANY yet! I know the exact playpen you are talking about. I saw one on ebay just before while I was looking at playpens. It looks really cute. I know what you mean about them moving so quickly too. I put Kyson at one of his toys on the other side of the lounge room, put two things in the dishwasher and turned around just as Kyson jammed his fingers in a kitchen draw. Who knows how he got behind me so fast! Lucky it was pretty softly, but he still cried. I'll have to get all the safety latches now though!


Ok, phew, that's surely got to be a big enough post for now, lol. And it's only taken me about 5 hours to write!

I just looked at Yasmin's old baby book and diary I wrote about her...and it said she got her first tooth at 11mths! All my other babies started to get teeth at 5/6 months though.

Cara seems to like the playpen...the kids have been jumping in there with her. Every night we do 'crawling training' (LOL) up and down the hallway with her....the kids crawl and she laughs hysterically! I almost thought she was going to crawl this morning..but after a couple of steps, she fell on her belly hehe.

All my kids has a smear of vegemite on their toast. I don't think it hurts. Has some good stuff in it like folic acid, which is good for them. I tried her with some tuna tonight..she loved it!

You girls talking about your periods....I still haven't got mine back. (was the same with Laura...I did not get it back til I stopped breastfeeding..at 19mths). I think this is due to the fact that Laura and now Cara don't sleep through the night. I am sure dropping that night feed would encourage your period back. So in a way, I don't mind the sleepless nights..no periods LOL. I got my period back at 6mths with Yassie (and I think Ronan) cause they slept through from that age. Or maybe because they were smaller babies and didn't drink as much from me??? Yassie weighed like 7-8kg at 1 year old!!! She was tiny compared to Cara who is 11kg and as tall as a 1 year old already probably.

Naomi: Awww you're a sweetie! I can't believe I had 4 kids some days. It's nice that you think I'm a supermum too. *blush* Just wish I was as organised as one LOL. I lose things ALL the time..it's insane! I hate to think what I will be like when demetia sets in one day!!! Oh and I want to say THANK YOU to you (if I am right...if I'm not...well thank you to whoever RAKed me!!) I will have to pass on the RAKness!

Krystie: YES...there is a time when the teething takes a break...I always think the early first 4-6 teeth seem the worst (maybe cause they seem to come with such furious pace in succession). I am sure we'll wait at least a couple of months for the rest. Well I hope...I would have to check my baby books to be sure though..

Bella: Yay for a good night's sleep! I hope you don't have to wait too long for baby no 2 either hehe. Another cute little redhead would be adorable hehe

Too tired...til tomorrow girls :)

Hahaha Krystie...I shouldn't hope to have an accident but I do. I am not on any contraception we r just using condoms. I had a dream last night that I saw a rip in DH's condom and I didn't tell him:) However that being said I have never fallen pregnant before the first time we tried in all my years of being sexually active ( and I have been very active at times LOL!) so I very much doubt that I would get preggers now without deciding to and I suspect my DH knows I would just love to get knocked up again now and so he has no problems looking after the contraception:)

Can I ask would the mods really tell us off for getting off topic? Surely not!! I would really laugh if they did:)

Bella

Bella: Funny the dreams you have! I had a couple of contraception dreams a while ago - they really freaked me out until I woke up properly, LOL! Sorry you had to pay for your good sleep. I will email you in a couple of weeks with my order. This pay is all going to childcare, then next fortnight I am buying myself a prezzie :)
Cathy: My period is still MIA too. I agree, I think mine will come back when I stop feeding overnight. It was the same with Natty - she started sleeping through at around 8/9 months and that's about when AF returned for me. I am happy for it to stay away. Plus, now that I have been back at work, I am very keen to keep up these lovely early-morning feeds. This morning I just stared at my baby for ages once she'd gone back to sleep after her feed. She makes these glorious noises when she's getting full - like, 'Oooooooh, my tummy's full... but... can maybe fit a bit more...' LOL! She's so beautiful and I just adore those snuggles. But we have been pretty lucky in this house of late with sleeping as she is waking only once or twice a night atm.
I think I need a playpen too. I have put gates up at the stairs because Phoebe's technique is pretty similar to Cara's and she is getting faster. She is slowly transitioning to hands and knees.
Krystie: We have leather seats in one of the cars too and IKWYM about the movement. Now our seats have big marks and dents on them too from the seats, so they don't move as much... but that's not such a good thing for the car! (Don't tell your DH ;) ) I think you will put 2 and 2 together when it comes time for Kyson to change seats. From what I figure, as long as you follow manufacturers instructions for your chosen seat then you are obeying the law. Keep Kyson in a booster until he's too big for it or until he's 6/7 years old. Voila!
I am very interested in hearing about the IVF, so I hope we don't get in trouble from our mods. It's not something I'd venture into the AC threads to read up on... I can barely keep up with the threads that are relevant to my life and experiences! I hope you don't have too long to wait and that your first round is a great success :)
Oh, and on the teething - yes it gets better and you quickly forget how hard the teething was to get through. I remember when Natty was about 20-ish months and we were at the shops and she chucked this MASSIVE tantrum. I was so confused as to why she was so fussy for no reason and guessed it was just a toddler-ism. But then I looked inside her (open - screaming) mouth and saw two molars coming through! I had forgotten she still didn't have all her teeth. I had thought all that was behind us. How quickly we forget, LOL.
Nic: Sorry to hear Aaron's been unsettled. Phoebe hasn't been waking more than usual, but she has been very sad at times through the day. I figured it was because of my return to work and that she's adjusting to it (and maybe feeling a little bit abandoned :( ) but maybe it is a developmental thing too. I love the reassurance of knowing the other bubs in here (who still have their mummies with them) are going through something similar.
Nay: The work clothes are a bit of an issue for me too - I have about three tops and two pairs of pants that are still comfortable, LOL! I told a friend of mine that I need to go shopping and she said, "You're only working three days - three tops is enough!" LOL! I have my 'Tuesday top' my 'Thursday top' and my 'Friday top' PMSL.
Enjoy your pre-work Bailey-days coming up. I am making the very most of my time with the girls atm, and I have found that since going back to work I am much more patient with Natty and we enjoy each other more.
LOL @ the junk mail thing... are you a 'junk'ie as well?!? I love junk mail and we get heaps of it here. I cut out pictures of things from the catalogues for Natty to do collages. So they really come in handy (esp the Toys R Us ones) :)
BG: Nay is right, you are awesome with the way you help folks out on here. You have a knack for explaining things and I think you would be the bees knees at your job. I'm not surprised they are itching to have you back.
Happy anniversary :) I'm glad you fessed up to your sore face. Hope it's just a pimple. xx
Vic: Sorry for the early-morning-escapades you've been experiencing. Phoebe still only has two teeth but we've been brushing them since they came through. Just a soft brush with no paste. Like Nay said, a washer will do, but I personally find a toothbrush much easier to get to the right place in their mouth. (Phoebe loves sucking washers and thinks its a big game when I try to wipe her face and hands, so you can imagine the fun she has when I try to stick it in her mouth :rolleyes:) She is very good with the brush - just opens her mouth and lets me brush. I also brush her gums and tongue when I feel like it, just for her to get used to keeping her mouth open for me.

As I mentioned to Nicole, I am kind of glad to hear that Phoebe isn't the only one who's been a bit unsettled lately. I thought it was because she was mixed up with not having me around, and I dare say that's part of it, but I'm hoping that at least some of her sadness is just a developmental phase. She hasn't been sleeping well in the day when I'm not there, so that doesn't help either.
Today is her first day at CC and I am feeling very sad about it. Silly, and I should just get over it. I am really enjoying my job and like I said, I am finding it easier to stay patient with the big one and even enjoy waking up to the little one so it's really doing wonders for my temperament. I just know it's a big step and the idea's taking some getting used to.
My bestie is due to have her baby in a couple of weeks. I can't believe how quickly that has gone (not that I said as much to her, LOL!) but I remember when she told me she was 8 weeks preggers. Phoebe was 8 weeks old! It feels like ages ago, but only yesterday. Babies make time go all funny.

ETA: OMG!! I've been RAKed too!!! Ooooooooh, how LOVELY!! Thank you, thank you, thank you!!! xxx

Amy - Congrats and well deserved, I always thought you had a good RAK - your avi certainly seems to suggest it LOL

Cathy - I can neither confirm or deny your suspicions regarding who RAK'd you - Like they say - If I tell you, I have to kill you :) I don't want blood on my hands LOL!!! But you are a deserving RAK'eee, and it's wonderful that all our Belly/Baby Buddies are now platinum! I did work out who RAK'd me though, I wonder if I am allowed to say? Hhhhhmmmmmmmm

I've been pouring out my emotions about returning to work - the logistical stuff I have sorted, but gosh I am getting rather emotional about it - so I thought I'd write it all down and turn it into a positive about how wonderful my Maternity Leave has been.....
https://www.bellybelly.com.au/forums...ml#post2190493

I meant to say too, I don't think we'd get into trouble for being a bit off-topic surely? We are just telling Krystie about how our babies came into the world, and this is a baby buddies forum (well thats my spin on it...!! LOL)

Afternoon ladies!

Sorry for no persies. Just wanted to pop in and say I have been reading, and I will come back in tonight when all the kids are asleep, and do some persies. Don't talk too much, or I will never catch up!

Firstly, Cathy - LOVE the avi! I can't believe how much all the kids look like your KIDS! Especially Laura with that trademark head tilt ;)

I know the RAKing is meant to be anonymous, but looking at the RAKers list it becomes a bit obvious who RAK'd who (ok, seriously, tell me that doesn't sound rude?!). I just need to browse the list again to work out Amy's now ;) And, yes, my RAKee has been renamed "Nancy Drew" :rofl:

I have Amy's sussed I reckon!! :think:

ETA - Cathy - you look as hot in your AVI as you do IRL

Lol, I think I worked out Amy's too ;)

evening ladies - just a quick one - am hungry and need to get some dinner - but i'll come back later and post again if my brain kicks in at all.

Very tired tonight - and feeling a bit MEH! AF has come back for me before Christmas (still feeding overnight - so maybe it's a side effect of PCOS) - had seven week "cycle" which i can cope with - followed by another bleed starting yesterday - 18days after the last one started. i always have weird AF's (longer than most normal people - the joys of abnormality!) - so i've only had a week of not bleeding! not happy! at least the pain in my face has subsided, with no pimple - so buggered if i know what's going on!

BBL - sounds like bub has crashed so DH and I can organise some dinner - shopping after he knocks of work is hard work!

Oo, you girls are sneaky. I don't know which one of you did it (and I'm not going to try to work it out either - I just am tickled pink and am going to leave it there. Plus, my brain hurts tonight.) but thank you. xx
Naomi, re my RAK. Honey, you have no idea. LOL! I've a gorgeous RAK - my avvi doesn't do it justice. Thing is, my RAK is now decidedly lopsided - that's what makes it so spesh. PMSL! You know very well that my RAK is nowhere near as impressive as that avvi's. I think I'd have chronic back problems if I had that teensy body and those huge jugs.
BG, sorry about the all-over-the-shop AF. I hope miss E is nice and relaxed for you tonight so's you get some good rest.

I'm off to bed! xx

I didn't think my AF would come back until I stopped breastfeeding, but despite still feeding 3 hourly (even overnight) I'm about to have my 4th AF since having Kyson. I used to be spot on 29-30 days but so far it's been 46, 45, 26, and this month will be 24! Although next month I am happy to have a super short cycle ;)

Amy, I was thinking that next time you have your avi changed you are going to have to let them know that the big boobs are essential, lol! I can't imagine your avi without the RAK!

K - make sure you are clear with the FS that you're still BF - my understanding is that the drugs used are not to be used while BF...

E grizzling - BBL