Babies born~September 1st-15th 2009 #2

Hi All,

I have been sticky beaking in here over the past few days as our thread is really quiet. Interesting to hear a few of you are also having bub rolling problems in bed. Do you think our bubs are rolling whilst asleep or waking and then rolling?? Whatever it is its frustrating. I had to get up 4 times last night to flip Jaida back again. Jaida rolls to the left so we thought about sleeping her close to the left rail but I too am worried she would get stuck. We dont wrap Jaida's arms anymore so atleast she can lean on her arms if need be but she doesn't realise she can put her head to the side to rest. We are doing 'rolling back practice' at tummy time but she hasn't connected this at bed yet. Very much open for suggestions - as I am lacking sleep today :wall::wall:

Another question - are any of you losing hair significantly. I used to have long thick hair but now I have long thin hair. Everytime I brush or wash my hair huge handfuls of hair comes out. I dont have bald patches though. I know hormones are going back to normal levels but I would have thought this would have sorted itself out by now.

Like Now were 3 I might pop in from time to tim as well if you dont mind:lol:

Welcome Easha and Now were 3, great to have you guys in here! And congrats on your bubs!

Sanchez - sounds like you have a very determined little princess. You gotta what you gotta do hey? I hope it works out for you and that V learns to self settle. I generally have to rock Ethan to sleep but sometimes he will self settle. Fingers crossed he gets the hang of it. Check out those air wraps as Taurean suggested. My SIL has one for her DD and its worked a treat for them.

Easha - I'm still losing lots of hair too, lucky I have heaps of it so you can't really tell but it is a pain having to constantly remove if from the shower drain :wall:

Art - your DD is such a cutie. I can imagine that she would love being in the highchair. I can't wait to get Ethan into it so he can sit up with us at dinner time. I reckon he'll love it too!

Now we're 3 - great that you got a bargain on the jumperoo. We have a jolly jumper and Ethan absolutely loves it. He is still trying to bounce long after I take him out of it :lol:

Gotta go can hear my boy now and he's probably hungry. Has anyone else started solids yet? I'm thinking of starting in another 2 weeks when E hits 5.5 months old. I'm thinking of skipping the rice cereal and going straight to vegies?! I know my DD hated the rice cereal and it was a waste in the end (can't say I blamed her, not very appetising!).

Hi Girls!

Sangie - I've tried Izzy on rice cereal a few times in the past week and she's not overly impressed so I'm thinking we might try some pureed carrot or pumpkin next. If she likes that then I'll mix in some rice cereal so she gets the benefit of the iron in it.

Sanchez - LOL! You really do crack me up! I love that you're going through so much crap but can make jokes about it. If it makes you feel any better, I rock or feed Izzy to sleep. She can self settle but generally refuses to do it during the day so I settle her. It can be annoying at times but most of the time I really enjoy it. I realised I was trying to get her to self settle as others were making comments about how difficult it will be for others to babysit her. I realised how stupid I was listening to them as why should I change our little habits just so those who might babysit her are happy?!

Easha - You are more than welcome to join us! I love our group and having a good chat about our babies so the more the merrier. As for tummy rolling, I did spend 2 hours checking on Izzy between 3 and 5am on Thursday night to make sure she was ok and I rolled her onto her back a couple of times but she just rolled straight back onto her tummy. I did a bit of Googling at 4am and realised that I can't control it and if she's strong enough to get onto her tummy by herself, she's strong enough to get her head to the side. I also have the Angel Care Sound & Movement monitor so that gives me peace of mind.

NW3 - yup, join our thread! We like a good gasbag in here so you're most welcome. I have a rug folded up under Izzy's Jumperoo as she can't touch the ground and that works a treat. She has always been strong in her legs but they are super strong now. People always comment on her strength and I think the Jumperoo has really helped. It also keeps her occupied for a good 20 minutes :)

Art - I'm with you, I'm loving this age! Izzy is just getting cuter every day and she's so interactive now. I wish I could just bottle her up at this age. It's gorgeous!

AFU - My hair loss isn't too bad really. I don't think it's any different to what it was before and during pregnancy to be honest. I don't think my hair changed that much during pregnancy though.

We spent the day on DH's boss' boat yesterday and it was fantastic. We had lunch and drinks at one of the islands not far off the coast then we moored in front of the city for wine and cheese late afternoon. It was bliss! Izzy loved it too and was such a good girl. She just fed and slept and smiled and talked to everyone! Very cute. We had a party at our neighbours last night which was really nice too and little Iz just slept in the sling the whole time. What a great day!

We still aren't having much luck with day sleeps in the cot but she's getting some naps in while we are out either in the car, the pram or the sling. She's still doing 10-11 hours straight overnight so I'm very happy with that.

Izzy really knows what she wants now and it so damned determined. She just went spastic at DH for putting her in the sling when she just wants to stand and chat! Hilarious!! We've got our work cut out for us though.

Well I'd better get myself in the shower seeing it's almost lunch time :shakehead: What a ferral I am!

Chat later girls

PS: we have a tummy sleeper! She started rolling throughout the night on Thursday. She's been on her tummy the past three mornings when I've gone in to get her. She loves it. There is no stopping her now, she's finding her independance!!

Hey all,
Welcome Easha - Jaida is such a pretty name. We don't have a rolling baby yet and he's still wrapped so I can't help you with that one yet! But my hair is definitely still falling out, its been about a month now - i still seem to have plenty, but its clogging up my shower and hairbrush. i'm not complaining because i have finally recovered from the pregnancy acne i had on my chest and back which i'm guessing is related - so yay.

Sangie - we just ordered a highchair online so will start offering solids soon and i'm going to try veges first and see what happens. Is E still sleeping ok now he got past that tricky bit?

Taurean -totally agree, 5 mths is such a cute age - they are so smiley happy and interactive - but friends of mine keep telling me it just gets better, so i think we have a lot to look forward to - let alone enjoy now! Your day out boating sounds awesome - so cool that Izzy just went along with it all :) We are getting the determined little grizzles now too - especially after reading the favourite book (which he turns the pages for) we have to keep reading it over and over haha, he is also really into looking at magazines.

Sanchez - good on you for trying the routine out. I have read the Tizzie Hall book, and although our routine is less strict I think the general idea is great - and once you have done the hard yards hopefully you can tweak it to suit too. I'm sure it wont be easy, but you are always so positive - i hope it works for you both xx Big changes for you guys! I dread to think of the effect of solids on poos! Are you trying more baby rice or something else? Out of interest are you trying because she is extra hungry or just to see how she reacts?

Art - yep we have done formula top-ups in the past, and still do sometimes at night, and he seems to be getting a bit better - they used to make him quite burpy and spewy. I have tried replacing the lunchtime feed with a bottle and it seems to be going ok so far. I am weaning him because I think he has got the best part of breastfeeding now he is nearly 6 mths, he will be in daycare soon, my milk supply is a bit low and he is getting annoyed while feeding - not to mention distracted. It's strange i've been using nipple shields for over 5 mths and last week he decided he didn't like them anymore and refused to feed unless it was skin to skin, which he is managing ok now (yay) apart from pulling off all the time - which i think is a combination of distraction, slow milk and just easier feeding direct on the nipple. He is ok for the first couple of minutes then its just annoying. I figure he gets a good morning feed, formula at lunchtime and a topup in the evening if he wants it - so 2 smaller feeds a day is probably fine anyway - i'm not going to fight him. I'm assuming A is perfectly happy with only 3 short naps during the day? or does she get a bit cranky?

AFU - Tadhg seems to be needing a bit less sleep - with only 3 sleeps and a "rest" the last 2 days. Which is a bit disconcerting - i am nervous if he is up too much he will get overtired and not sleep later or get cranky - sometimes its hard to tell if he is just not sleeping due to wind or the heat so i generally leave him in his cot anyway - which he is usually ok with, interspersed with a few grizzles. Moving on with the weaning, I was thinking of dropping our 6pm feed next - but now T is being fussy about the feeds I'm finding my BB's quite sore in the morning as it is - so will see how we go over the next couple of days. Maybe i will drop the 3pm one instead.

K :D

Kelly, yip, she is happy as larry with her short naps. After two kids I still don't really understand the overtired thing - they are fine, then tired/grumpy and then they go to sleep.

Easha, welcome. I have lost quite a bit of hair and have bald spots on my temples. Luckily the rest of my hair falls over it so you can't tell. It happened last time too.

NW3, glad your bub liked the jumperoo. A loves hers and she bounces so high she hits her head on the dangling frog which she thinks is really cool.

Sangie, can you see pics of A? On FB? I thought I had it set so that only friends could see, so please let me know if you can see them on there. PM me your name and I will add you if you want. I would love to see E.

Sanchez, how is sleep going? I hope it is working for you.

After researching and looking at all the recommendations, A had her first solids yesterday - Ice cream lol. I was eating one and she grabbed my hand and helped herself! So later I gave her a bit of marmite cruskit to suck on. She isn't overly keen so I think I will just offer her whatever we are having if she shows an interest.

Art - I meant your ticker pic! I'm not on FB despite a million people asking me why not lol :redface: One day I'll get around to it! He he on the ice cream, did she enjoy it?

Kelly - Are you going back to work soon? Great that you have ditched the nipple shields. I understand about the distraction, E is the same. I put a light wrap over him so he doesn't look around while eating. Yes Ethan's sleeping has improved so much over the last week. He still sleeps 11 or so hours overnight and has been having 3 day sleeps. Two of them are around 45 mins and he has a bigger sleep of around 1.5hrs at lunchtime. Please please let this continue lol :pray:

Taurean - Sounds like you have a very determined little girl there, wait until toddlerhood lol! Yeah rice cereal isn't very exciting. The Rafferty's garden cereals are more exciting and they also have iron in them. They come in multigrain with banana and apricot and I think they have a banana porridge too. I don't think they are recommended until 6 months though. My DD used to love them and I'll probably get some for Ethan too.

Ooohhhh just noticed my AV! Pretty cool hey? Looks just like me only thinner! :lol:

Hi Everyone

Hi Easha, welcome...so exciting having newbees to chat with. Congrats on Jaida. As for your hair loss question.......mine is coming out by the bucketload. I finally went and bought a dust buster because i was sick of pulling out the big Vacuum to clean up my hair. Especially blow drying and straightening......I can't believe i have any left on my head!

Sangie...I did try the rice cereal last week, but decided not to keep going. Will give her another couple of weeks and will start on veges...think i will go through the bought stuff and find out what she likes before i start steaming and stewing and freezing!

Taurean...i am some what green eyed when i see you are getting 11 hours a night :o
I was there - i didn't cherish it as much as i should have! And then i lost it! How is the house packing going? We bought an investment house last week.....so i am in the midst of figuring out how to be a property manager. As DH said - that can be my new yearly wage....i think it comes to $3000 :o:o:o Giving me something to do though.

Kelly - good luck with the weaning....I bet your BB's are a bit tender. That is great he is happy with his lunch time bottle and amazing you have got rid of the nipple shield! Just in time for the weaning! Are you heading back to work soon? I can't believe 6 months is just around the corner....i was just thinking how i remember the labour just like it was yesterday......

Leading up to my due date I had put an application on my DH's iphone called the contraction counter. Basically you hit start and stop at the beginning/end of the contractions and it times it and tells you how far they are apart yada yada yada.So i am in labour and my beloved DH is watching me like a bomb about to blow with his iphone ready for action. I notice that hes not pushing the buttons with the contractions though. My next contraction comes and i am breathing heavy and grimicing....and i look up at him and he looks so intently at me saying "now, do i push it now to start, are you having a contraction?" i think i yelled some comment about being an idiot and how can you not work out that i am in pain. When the contraction was over and i looked at him he still had that intense look and says "now, do i push it now to stop, is it finished?". I almost threw his phone out the window. Hence that was the only contraction it ever timed.....funny times!

AFU - The Tizzie Hall boot camp has had an off day today. She refused to sleep and i gave her a bath at 5.30pm and she pretty much fell unconcious straight after. I was standing with my DH holding her after the bath and she was looking down and i asked him what she was looking at. He assured me she was staring at his feet. After about a minute I looked at her and she was fast asleep. My DH makes me laugh!
So we are all surviving in my camp. You have to have the laughter, especially when the times are tough, or else you would never survive :)

Nighty night xx

Hi All,

Thanks for the advice re: hair loss - good to know there isn't anything to worry about. I too went and bought a hand held vac to get rid of it.

Taurean - looks like I have a tummy sleeper too. Jaida was on her tum last night and I turned her back. She woke 3 times last night though to be flipped back. Jaida is obsessed with rolling on her tummy during the day too. Once she is there she whinges about being there so we help her roll back and within 2 mins she is back on her tummy again :wall::wall:. I suppose at least she will eventually pick up how to roll back.

Kelly - Jaida's sleeping less and less during the day as well. I still put her down after a lunch feed but she just lays there listening to her music. Atleast she is 'resting' so to speak and I get 30 mins to do house work etc before she fusses too much.

Artechim - icecream - :lol::lol: how funny. I had a glass of pepsi max the other day and Jaida was staring at it so intently so I dipped my finger and gave her some. Yummy !! Although soft drink isn't what I want to her to drink at all.

Sanchez - told DH about the contraction application - he wants it for our 2nd child. :shakehead: Men and their toys.

How are you ladies filling your weeks?? I am sort of bored but unsure whether Jaida will cope with going out all the time. There is only so much TV one can watch





Anyhow bubs up again after sleeping after swimming so got to go.

Happy to report......she slept through the night!
Could be a fluke but at least I am feeling energized and ready for the next month of sleepless nights!

Sanchez, Yay!! :dance: I hope it continues for you.

Sangie, I wondered if it was the ticker, but I am paranoid about strangers being able to see my FB pics - I have a fear of some sicko getting his jollies off pics of my kids. FB isn't that exciting, I doubt I would even have it but it makes it really easy to share pics with the IL's so I don't have to bother emailing to different people.

Easha, I am bored bored bored. The activities I take DS to are just starting up again after the holidays, so now I have mothers group, music, topsy turvy (like kindergym?), and we go to a daycare center for him to play sometimes too. So we get out of the house for at least 3-4 mornings each week and DH has friday arvo's off. But after 2.5 years of sitting around home my mind has started to rot. I am thinking of doing some extramural uni papers next semester just to clear out some cobwebs.

Yay Sanchez!!!!! That's fantastic!!!!

I've had a sh#t of a day. Poor Izzy has been really out of sorts. Really whingy and clingy. I'm wondering if a tooth is on the horizon as she was chopping madly on everything today, including my fingers and boy can she bite!

Will try to jump back on later. Am typing on my phone while I feed Izzy. Hoefully she'll be in bed very soon!

Taurean, same here. A has never really grizzled in her life but for the last 3 days she has been grumpy and screws up her face crying sometimes. So different from my normal cruisey babe but she is chomping like mad so I guess her teeth are troubling her. I was hoping she would be one of those kids that pops out teeth and barely notices.

I have to bite the bullet and go shopping tomorrow. I hate it. The shops are over an hour away down a dodgy winding road. But A is running out of clothes so I have to.

Hi All,

Sanchez - yay for sleeping through..... has your bub continued this pattern?? Jaida is one step forward two steps back. Now she is rolling in her sleep she wakes more and just wants to be feed - 3am feed this morning.... aaarrrrgggh feeling like a zombie.

Taurean and Artechim - Jaida has been the same. I have seen the little white teeth push up a little and she has taken to stealing the washer in the bath to suck on and near has a tantrum when I take it back off her (can 5mth old have tantrums :o).

Jaida has also become a little clingy and cries when we leave the room. Other than that we went to playgroup yesterday and although she is the youngest by 5 mths or more she loves just watching all the other toddlers. She also loves the singing and dancing time - I may have a musician/singer/dancer on my hands.

I have also decided to commence a journal for Jaida starting with the pregnancy and working my way through (from what I remember) until she is one. Will be a nice 18th birthday present. I'm looking forward to starting.

Anyway Jaida is waking for a feed

I wish Easha I could say it had continued....she slept through for 2 nights and then had a horrid night again last night! Oh well!
But yesterday we made some progress, she finally took a bottle! Yay for us. So strange, she was a bitgrizzly and itwasnt feed time so I thought I'd give it a whirl with EBM. She was lying on the ground... I handed it to her and she gave it to herself! So bizarre as she would always chew on the teat.... Nup drank it down in a hurry! Must have been hungry!

In other news she got her first pAir of shoes yesterday! Pink Dunlop Volleys! Instantly made her look older with them on her feet!

That's about it for us.
She is calmly watching tv in my arms......such a bad
mother!

Ah well Sanchez at least you got a couple of good nights which is better than none! At least you know she can do it and hopefully she will do it more often for you. YAY for taking the bottle! Her pink shoes sound adorable. My sister bought Ethan some blue and white Nike's which fit him for all of 4 weeks! You can tell she doesn't have kids by the presents she buys for mine lol!

Easha - having a journal is a great idea! I kept meaning to tell you that I love the name Jaida and it was on our list if Ethan was a girl :clap:

Art - is A growing out of her clothes? Wow on living an hour away from shops, don't think I could do it although I'm sure DH would be quite happy as then I'd probably spend less money :lol:

Taurean - poor Izzy can you see any teeth yet?

Ethan has been a bit whingy the last couple of days too but thankfully he has been sleeping ok. He has started babbling a lot more now. He is already pulling his sister's hair and then she cries and he giggles :wall: Oh lordy I'm in for some fun times ahead!

Hi Girls

Well I finally got Izzy to sleep at about 8.30 on Thursday night and thankfully she did her usual 11 hours overnight. Phew!!! I was shattered. She was just so out of sorts but she was fine on Friday and was fantastic all weekend so what was going on Thursday is anyones guess :dunno:

Izzy seems to be changing every day lately and she suddenly seems so big! She's wearing some 00 clothes and finally she has chubby knees and thunder thighs! She's really mobile too, rolling all over the place (she has finally mastered tummy to back again) and pivots around on her belly. She moves around a lot in her cot too so I never know what position I'll find her in! She's also jumping a lot more in her jumperoo and squeals when she does a really decent bounce. So cute!

We're slowly introducting solids and we've now tried pumpkin a couple of times and she seems to like it. I think I'll try carrot next and then maybe something sweet. I'm pretty relaxed with it as I don't think she's really that fussed yet.

Sleep - still the same. Days are hit and miss, although she is sleeping a lot more in the pram these days, but nights are brilliant. She did 12.5 hours the other night and this morning she slept in until 8.30! We were stoked with that given we'd had a late night at a friends house last night. I'm dreading teeth as I'm sure that will be the end of our good nights.

Sangie - nice avi! Congrats on your RAK too! Ethan sounds super cheeky! Izzy has started pulling my hair lately too. She tends to grab it when I'm carrying her and just doesn't let go. It's like she's holding onto one of those straps you hold when you're standing up on a bus!

Sanchez - V's shoes are so cute!! Izzy has about 5 pairs of shoes but she doesn't fit into any of them yet. I actually came close to buying her some Dunlop Volleys the other day but thought I'd wait til they're on sale. What a bugger the good sleep didn't continue but at least she's taking a bottle now - that's great news! Izzy has loved bottles as much as boobies since she was 3 weeks old and I'm so grateful. Has made things a lot easier.

Easha - Izzy has little tantys now too, especially when we take her out of the bath. She also loves sucking on face washers - what is that all about??? Izzy is a huge fan of dancing and music too. Giggles constantly when we dance at Gymbaroo. All the other mums all laugh back at her and she just giggles more. It's so adorable!

As for filling in the weeks - I do have some boring days but I generally try to go out every day, even if it's just for a walk. Monday's we have mothers group, Tuesday is swimming and Wednesday is Gymbaroo. This Thursday I'm also going to a Mums and Bubs session at the movies with the MG girls. We're seeing Valentines Day so that will be fun. I often go for walks and take advantage of the times we go out to scheduled things (like swimming) to then catch up with friends or go shopping afterwards. I see my mum quite a bit too. Being a mum is so damn demanding and busy but really boring sometimes too, isn't it.

Art - must have been something in the air. Was it a full moon last week? Quite a few people I know had problems with their kids late last week. How was your shopping? Have any luck? I'm with Sangie, I don't think I could survive if the shops were an hour a way but I know my DH would be thrilled! LOL.

I hope you all had a lovely Valentines Day. We chose not to do anything this year (we normally use it as an excuse to go out for lunch or dinner) but I kind of celebrated on my own yesterday. I used my Christmas present from DH - a 3 hour day spa gift voucher! DH had Izzy for 4 hours while I was pampered to the max. A full body scrub, a massage, a facial and pedicure. It was divine! I even snuck in a couple of cheeky champers during my treatment. It really was heaven.

Well I should get myself to bed. We've been at a 3 year old birthday party all afternoon and the hot weather has knocked me for six. Night!!

Valentines Day....i didn't even notice! DH had done a night duty so i stayed out of the house until 12pm so he could sleep, then he woke and took Violet while i vac'd and mopped the floor - then he went back to work!
Can I ask you girls a bit of a personal question.....How is everyones libido doing? I seem to have misplaced mine and I don't know whether thats normal or not.

Taurean - 11.5 and 12 hours nights is insane! What a champion baby! I am green with envy....no wonder you always look so fresh in your photos! I am going to attempt the mums and bubs movies on thursday as well - it is Valentines Day here as well. Izzy has so many shoes! I never thought about buying her shoes. When she was born i thought her feet looked long - and she fits the 1/2. Talk about chubby legs - have you seen Violets! I thought they were normal chubby baby legs until someone pointed out to me that Violet was the only baby in the group that has them! Apparently they might thin out when she starts crawling! :crossfingers:

Sangie - Thats so funny he grew so fast out of his shoes! Did he wear them much?

Art - any sign of teeth on the horizon?

AFU - sleeping is still hit and miss, last night was a miss and i am dead tired today! V is quite content just lying around and not really trying much new! Still cant work out to jump in the jolly jumper! Still not rolling from tummy to back. Is talking a bit more though.

Can't believe she is going to be 6 months soon - crazy how fast time flys. I can't help but think i am excited for the next baby I have......not for awhile though!

Hi Everyone

Im in a bit of sleepless hell at the moment..Im pretty sure Indigo is teething as she is constantly chewing on things/drooling etc I am using oral gel and panadol but its not helping as she is only sleeping 4 hours max over a 24hr period she is grumpy and irritable so Im hoping that some teeth come through soon!! When she is asleep one of the boys seems to wake!!

I have to sleep her in a grobag now because she rolls in the cot and gets her legs stuck between the rails..I found her asleep the other night on her tummy with both legs out the side of the cot. I wrap her top half - kinda like a straight jacket if she is flailing her arms around when really tired.

I havnt started my pill yet as I was on antibiotics last period, I had to take the Morning After Pill last week due to accident....so crossed fingers for period in 2 weeks as I was ovulating when I took the M.A.P :o

Bye for now
We tried some solids the other week and she has had rice cereal and some apple.