I saw a documentary about orphanages in China and this is what they did over there. Also they were tied to chairs with potties underneath so catch any waste. It broke my heart to see this and we did look at adopting from there as I was so upset but DF was to old. He is not to old to have his own bio children but to old to adopt :shakeshead: and they went on his age and not mine (which is nearly 10 years younger). There was a lack of carers in the orphanages so this is what they did to the children so they knew where they were. Horrendous