Weighing up whether to make the switch ...

[Arimeh]

I agree with everything Lea said - especially about the baby beehinds fitted.

I use one at night for DD and don't have any leaks - and it does her for about 13 hours? I use them during the day for DS.

But I am horribly addicted to MCN's - so have LOTS of different types that I use for different reasons...(ie, nights, daycare, home nappies, after bath before going into night nappy - those kind of things..)

I'm not really thinking about how much money I have spent (and believe me its wayyy more than $800!!) cos I am planning another child - so I will get full value out of my nappies by the time the next one is toilet training!!!!!

Don't know about the toilet training biz - I would imagine it would get them more inclined to do it if they are using a nappy that has the wet feeling (like the baby beehinds) but there are MCN's out there that draw the moisture away just like a disposable.

Let me know if you want me to send you a couple of nappies so you can give them a go.. I'm sure Miss M can spare some.. LOL

[Arimeh]

OOh and another point - you can always RESELL your nappies that you aren't happy with, or have finished using - so you get some money back that way... can't say that for disposables!!!!

[catherinemoses]

Hi there, sorry to hijack
What is PUL? I'm occassionaly using terry flats with the PVC pants but I don't like them!

[Arimeh]

Catherine - PUL is poly laminate or something like that.. pmsl... its better than the old PVC that everyone used to use - PUL is great (for day times anyway, wool or fleece better for night times)

MM - yeah I get mine online - baby beehinds have their own site, and if want to see them in real life, check out if there is a demonstrator near you mate. (But another site has them actually cheaper at the moment - so if you want the name of that online shop, let me know)

Oh, and you don't sell them on ebay - can't sell used nappies on ebay - just new ones or new ones that have only been washed - not used. there is site where you buy 2nd hand nappies - not too bad resale value - I sold 16 of mine one month.

[mountain mummy]

Mel - I was kidding about ebay!! LOL!

Would you say Veygas is size small or medium atm? I have looked at BBH website and the have a trial pack (pity it's only one per customer cause I'd love to try Khaemon in them too! )

[Arimeh]

You're talking about the AIO's on Baby beehinds?

Ummm... not sure... I don't use them .... umm... I'd say take his measurements and see where he fits in...
I would say a medium maybe cos I know he's bigger than Miss M..

[mountain mummy]

Has anyone used Peapods? How are they compared to BBH?

oooooohhhhh I'm so confused now!! LOL!

I would say a medium maybe cos I know he's bigger than Miss M..

Oohh yeah, he's a chubba bubba!! LOL!

OK, looks as though I've got my work cut out for me!!

And thanks for all that info too Gigi!!

[Arimeh]

MM - I read too much bad stuff about Peapods when I was researching so I don't have any... but they do work for some people - like every brand
Are you sure you don't want me to send you some types so you can work out whether or not they suit your bub? Makes it cheaper for you anyway if you know what type and what shape, material etc suit your bub.

[catherinemoses]

Thanks everyone for the advice. I've definitely got some homework to do. I think I've found what I'll spend some of my $1000 from Mr Rudd on!

[Gigi]

Hi there, sorry to hijack
What is PUL? I'm occassionaly using terry flats with the PVC pants but I don't like them!

if you google

"PUL"

you get great definitions popping up. if i was allowed to post you a link i would!

PVC covers are all sweaty, crack, break, leak etc
PUL is streets ahead
if you have never bought one before, you can get PUL covers with snaps like the Wonderwraps at darlingsdowunder (a one size fits all cover)

or sized aplix closing PUL covers from baby beehinds.
APLIX is industrial velcro that stands up to the repeated washing that nappies go thru.

other waterproof cover options these days are:

- double layer polar fleece covers
- maldenmills windpro covers (esp for night)
- woollies in the shape of a cover, often called SOAKERS. they work by being LANOLISED, you only wash them once a month.

have a look at some big MCN sites, and click on COVERS to find out what's out there
e.g
darlingsdownunder
nurturenappies
baby blossom
baby softlandings
nappy bucket

ozebaby
wahmnaps
wahmania
minicuteture
these are WAHM sites, mcn made by work at home mums

at the cloth advocacy sites
ozclothnappies (read the FAQ section especially)
nappycino
you'll find great info, and links to free patterns (if you knit or sew), even photo tutorials online, youtube vids, all sorts.

[Snacks]

PUL is a fabric that's waterproof but more breathable than PVC. PUL wraps are heaps easier to use than the pull-on fluffies or PVC pants IMO, but they are more expensive - about $15 a pop. Worth it!
Yup, you buy them online mountain mummy. Baby beehinds (if those are what you're considering) have a website and they do have some packages where you save a little bit of $$. I would think if you are washing a lot then 25-30 would be enough. (Depends on how much they wee and poo!) Personally, I'd go for the bamboo rather than hemp. Heaps more absorbent and softer, but take a little longer to dry.
Not sure if it will help with the TT... Particularly if he already knows the feeling of being wet and knows what it's about, KWIM?
But personally, I'm already thrilled with the money I've saved using them, even just part time. I find that it is more work, but worthwhile.

ETA: Whoa, sorry I obviously took ages to write that response! Sorry for the repeat info

[mountain mummy]

Thanks Lea and Mel

I shudder to think how much money I have spent on disposables (I haven't had a break from nappies/pullups for nearly eight years now!!!! ) At least DD pulled her finger out ALOT earlier than her older brother (who we basically had to bribe at 6 years old to stay dry at night!) - she beat him by about a year and a half!!

So we only have the 2 in nappies (and I'm pretty sure Veygas is getting close to 7kg now) and with DS2 starting preschool next year, he has to be toilet trained (for the most part) before he can go.

So do you just buy them online?

Do you think that 25-30 would cover 2 of them? (considering I wash every day anyway!!)

you can always RESELL your nappies that you aren't happy with, or have finished using - so you get some money back that way... can't say that for disposables!!!!

Mel!!!! Sure you can, you can sell just about ANYTHING on ebay!!! LOL!!!!