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thread: Can you give Rice milk to under 5's?

  1. #19
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    Dec 2007
    Sunny Qld
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    Ange - does that include soy formulas as well?

  2. #20
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    Feb 2007
    In the jungle.
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    Yep- Goats milk formula would be a better one to try.

  3. #21
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    Aug 2006
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    Ahhhh shyte!

    *Goes off to find info about the evils of soy milk, particulary for boys??!!*

  4. #22
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    Dec 2007
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    Seriously?!?! Damn.. she is doing so well on soy too...

  5. #23
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    Aug 2006
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    Same here Mel, DS hated the rice milk, wouldn't even drink a small cup of it.

    We are still breastfeeding but I can't see myself tandem feeding (you never know, still early days) and have had to drop him back to 2 feeds a day because my supply dropped with early prg.

    I'm going shopping tomorrow, will buy some lactose free stuff. My paed did recommend this as an option but soy was just more readily available. Hope he tolerates it ok!

    Ange - can you give me a brief run down on why soy might be a problem?

  6. #24
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    Feb 2007
    In the jungle.
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    Don't stop it on my say so, do a bit of googling and see what you think...... Some people are very happy with their soy products. I guess i'm a bit cautious, if there are questions surrounding the safety of something i would rather avoid it. Guilty unless proven innocent i say!

  7. #25
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    Going to go google it in a minute, but I'm the same, especially when it comes to the kids and if there is an alternative

  8. #26
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    Feb 2007
    In the jungle.
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    Now this is off the top of my head, not a paper i would submit to uni for assesment!

    - a high % of soy crops are GM modified. I read 2/3 but not sure on the figure....
    - A soy bean is a hard bean, there is alot of processing that goes on to make it into 'milk'
    - Soy crops love heavy metals and absorb them readily.
    - There are high levels of phyto-estrogens (hormone) in soy milk. The high levels of this hormone is what gives soy its benefits such as reducing the incidence of cancer in adults, but it has also been shown to mess with the estrogen levels in our bodies, it has been linked to fertiliy issues as well as Thyroid cancer in a few studies. The levels of the hormone are a concern particularly when it comes to infants.

    The problem is that it is hard to find a balanced perspective on Soy, or a good scientific study. There are many articles shouting the opposite opinions, but like i said, guilty until proven innnocent at my house!

  9. #27
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    Jul 2006
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    Ange is definitely a woman on the ball, so I'd trust her

    Willow, when I changed DS over to rice milk, he wouldn't have a bar of it. I mixed a small amount of it into his cows milk, increasing the rice milk ratio a little each day, until he was having all rice milk. Recently, we were away, and I couldn't get any rice milk for a day and a half, and he was really funny about having cows milk!!!!!! Maybe a very gradual approach would work?

  10. #28
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    Janie - I was just talking to DH about it. We're going to try the lactose free stuff first and see how he goes with that. We haven't actually tried him on cow's milk, I have been too scared to after seeing his reaction to yoghurt and cheese etc. But if he doesn't take to that either, I guess rice milk is our only option.

  11. #29
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    Jul 2006
    Melbourne
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    Hun, totally don't blame you for being scared to try cows milk. I wouldn't either in your situation! I hope you have some luck with the LF stuff.

    ETA Just realised that maybe you think I was suggesting mixing it with cows mil for L?! I meant to do it with whatever you're currently giving him (ie soy milk).

  12. #30
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    Dec 2007
    Sunny Qld
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    EEkk I'm reading. and its a little scary. maybe i should just stop googling and put my head in the sand..

  13. #31
    Matryoshka Guest

    I would go OAT milk instead of rice milk - much more nutritional if you weigh up whats actually IN the stuff. The rice milk is very empty calories, unless its fortified with calcium or protein which we used to buy until we discovered oat milk. Check the labels.

    Also soy isn't evil, if you google choice report on soy milk for babies.

  14. #32
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    Oct 2003
    Forestville NSW
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    Except that oats is high on the intolerance list as well.... sorry, but both my girls are allergic to oats as well.... I do buy the calcium enriched rice milk in the hope that something is absorbed. Our allergist/nutritionist suggested that magnesium is much more important because that is what helps the body absorb calcium, so we have a multivitamin with magnesium with the rice milk.

    Someone asked something I had an answer too... damn....

    Soy, the other day Matilda (who is not allergic to soy) spilled soy sauce all over herself. She came out in a HUGE rash and its still pink and welty now..... scary stuff..
    Last edited by christy; January 16th, 2009 at 08:46 PM.

  15. #33
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    Dec 2007
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    Thanks for that B.

    Christy - wow thats scary.. hope she's ok?

  16. #34
    Matryoshka Guest

    Yeah, the gluten, bummer.

    Just that DS1 drank rice milk for about 9 months from age 1 until i discovered Oat milk and realised rice milk is very mostly just carbs.

    I actually drink powdered magnesium every day mixed with water, good to know it helps with something else!

    I think soy is okay where you have no other real options, but also highly allergic.

  17. #35
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    Jan 2008
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    as for my kids i gave them all rice and soy and cow milk after 12 months and one of them skim milk he went fully on at about 8 months (pead instructed me to) due to being OVER weight but he was a lovely wrinkly chubby bubba hehehe.

  18. #36
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    Jan 2006
    Melbourne
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    Am I right in thinking that all the "warnings" about not giving kids rice milk the the fear that someone will give it to their bub instead of formula or breastmilk when under one? I mean, once a child is 12 months old and on a full diet (assuming they are not BF like my poor boys ) then rice milk is a good alternative if cows milk is a prob and you aren't keen on soy?

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