thread: Healthiest option for non dairy? Soy vs rice milk vs oat milk

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  1. #1
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    Jul 2010
    Melbourne
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    Well this is disappointing to read. I have just switched to soy because I have found out I am dairy intolerant. I can have a small amount of dairy like a bit of cheese, but the main culprit for my bloating was cows milk. I Looove my dairy so this has been very hard. But I find I am loving soy milk, full fat though none of this light crap. It has to be 'milky' in flavour. Rice milk is disgusting as is light soy.
    How can something made from soy beans be so bad for you? My acupuncturist just recommended soy to me (for the bloating), and I am being treated for infertility. Why did the GP not say anything either? Have they done studies? Link please if you have one

  2. #2
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    Dec 2005
    In Bankworld with Barbara
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    If affects your fertility because excess estrogen (from soy) can alter the ratio between your estrogen and progesterone levels and you need a perfect balance of both to sustain a pregnancy. The studies are out there and easy to find - go to google scholar and search for 'estrogen dominance fertility' and see how many hits you get, same goes for 'effects of soy on fertility'. There is an interesting report here http://www.litalee.com/documents/Est...20Problems.pdf and this passage in particular;

    Dr. Peat’s research established that estrogen excess kills the embryo by suffocation (hypoxia). Progesterone protects the embryo by preventing hypoxia and by aiding the delivery of both oxygen and glucose. During the ninth week of pregnancy, estrogen increases. Women who lose their babies around the ninth or tenth week of pregnancy are either high estrogen dominant (e.g., hypothyroid) and/or are consuming commercial meat, poultry and dairy products containing synthetic estrogen (DES). Their progesterone levels are low and the liver capacity is insufficient to detoxify the estrogen. Studies indicate that progesterone also helps prevent toxemia and increases the intelligence and the health of the baby. How? By opposing estrogen, progesterone enlarges the cortex whereas estrogen actually decreases the size of the cortex and other parts of the brain.
    Tasha, another alternative for you could be A2 milk. It contains a different protein to regular milk and can be tolerated by those who do have an intolerance to dairy. Other options would also be goat or sheep milk.

  3. #3
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    Oct 2008
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    Just a question, as I am in the process of converting our house to be dairy free and maybe soy free, is when can babies/toddlers stop formula (long story but my milk dried up ) and start having almond milk, or other dairy alternatives?

    I'm thinking of making all my food from scratch to ensure there is no soy or dairy in anything...

  4. #4
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    Dec 2005
    In Bankworld with Barbara
    14,222

    I'm not sure Ryatha, I know some people just use coconut water to start with. Maybe you could read up on some raw food information/books? That would be a good place to start.