Completely additive free foods for kids! With challenges ;)

[MrsFabuloso]

My DS1 is sensitive to high salycilate foods. Things like strawberries, green grapes sulatanas (and lots of other thing, but these are the ones which send him bat s**t crazy)...send him bananas. He will be fine one moments then within minutes of eating something high in salicylates, and boom, he's a screaming, twitching, nasty, violent crazy thing.

[~clover~]

Yep... that's us. But she's over the top 24/7. Its just a steady stream of mischief, that reaches points of bat **** craziness.

She's had our usual bread, with our usual butter & is still sitting for peppa pig, so I might be ok with them... The butter has 202 in it, so will have to find something else, but our usual bread is all good

[onthefly]

Yeah, don't bother with the failsafe not-tomato sauce. there's no way anybody would ever fall for it.
meat and three veg is pretty much what we did for dinner. you can do crumbed chicken pieces if you read labels on crumbs carefully or make your own (we bought gluten free stuff as also gluten & dairy free). With plenty of salt and pepper they're quite tasty.

[~clover~]

I usually crumb myself anyway. If I can be bothered. I assume sausages are out though? I can afford sausages...very rare for me to be able to buy chicken that isn't drumsticks

And I'm forgetting, DD doesn't really do sauce. Not tomato sauce anyway. We do marinades & stuff, but that's easy enough. She's like this 24/7 though. She just hits crazy when there's something different. Like a juice or hot dog. She's still all over the place all the time. She's the same as DD2 with impulse control... a little worse. Mum has said that we're lucky we live here, because she'd be lucky to still be alive anywhere else. She'll run out on the road with out looking. Run off at the shops. Climb onto anything if she wants something. There is nowhere in this house out of her reach.

No type of discipline seems to work... until I lose my **** & completely snap :/ I've tried the positive parenting thing the health nurse thinks cures all, but its just not enough over here. I wish she could see that & give up on it. Not saying that it doesn't help, but its not enough. I'm not even sure she's in control of her behavior half the time, but other times its like she's getting to me on purpose (tipping the dolls bath water on the floor while watching for my reaction... that was last night, in her craziness though)

I don't think its going to be as simple as just cutting out additives now I've looked into it, because the majority of the time, that is us. Now I've finally looked at our every day foods, like the brand of bread we eat, I see that I'm doing the right thing & have chosen the right brands & its still not enough :/

Can jelly, water ice blocks etc be eaten on the fail safe diet? I could freeze my own lemonade I guess? Since nearly all fruits are out. Might look more into that. Its 40 degrees right now & we have no air con. Just fans & cold baths.


ETA; As I typed that she emptied the full bottle of tomato sauce onto her legs & my shaggy mat in the loungeroom... *sigh*
She knows its not ok. She has been in trouble for exactly this so many times before :/ Shampoo's, eggs, creams, soaps. If she touches it, she empties it... Even if we're not at home...

[onthefly]

Mix up 1 cup water, 1 cup sugar and 1/2 teaspoon of citric acid in a saucepan and warm till all dissolved. Then use this as a cordial. You can freeze, as well. This is failsafe and tasty (it tastes like lemonade). I would avoid actual lemons as they're very high in salycilates. Jelly would be no good due to flavouring.

bananas are ok if you're not sensitive to amines.

Allergy train sells heaps of stuff you could try - it's not cheap, though at least they deliver.

We get preservative-free, gluten-free sausages, though they're not failsafe as they contain some extra flavouring. You may not have that option where you are, though. Most commercial sausages will contain salycilates in flavours and almost certainly have preservatives (and then I suppose it depends which kind of preservatives you have problems with). What about rissoles? They're a good one you can make and sort of sausage like.

When we are affected by what we eat - adults, too - we have a really hard time controlling ourselves. Little kids don't have full impulse control as it is, when they're under the influence of 'stuff' then they have no control. It's not really her fault, but that doesn't help you out much.

The thing with sensitivities is that the foods that we react to build up in the body over time and so it takes a while for the reaction to occur and it can last quite a while after you've stopped the foods. That's why it's necessary to completely eliminate for at least a few weeks before you'll see all behavioural issues disappear. It's a lot of hard work - one slip up and you have to start over again.

ETA - have you talked to your DD about this? She is probably quite aware that she feels terrible at times and may also have made the connection with foods. She might be quite willing to try to work on this together - at her age she's likely to appreciate just how much better she feels without that stuff in her system.

[~clover~]

Ok. I'll do the best I can, with what I have, before I go shopping next week.

I know she's out of control. I thought the foods I was giving her were ok. Didn't realize all that fruit would have an effect on her TBH. Guess banana's are out til we find out though?

Lets hope this works

Thanks for all the advice x