Thanks tellytubby. They always do it when I'm not there, in the kitchen for example. If I heard them I would say something. The bigger issue is their mum is very ill, father is a dropkick and noone is parenting them properly. They do all kinds of things and DS then tries it out on me and it's just annoying. I know they are going through a rough time but im sad nobody is bothering to keep them in line, it's going to end up hurting them in the long term