Arrrrrrrr, but pirates be so much more awesome, arrrrrrrrrr.
We spelt our girls names phonectically (sp?) so that our relatives o/s can pronounce them. Some very common names in English have a legimate alternative spelling in another language. Just because "we" in Australia don't recognise the spelling doesn't mean it doesn't exist...For example Emilia is a perfectly "normal" name in Poland and so is Monika (Monica)
Last edited by BekZ; July 7th, 2009 at 03:38 PM.
Love it Nelle
Slightly off topic but when considering names I have been going through the following process
* <name I like> mmm that is a nice name
* how would I spell <name>
* mmm how does Doctor <name> surname sound... oh, what about <name> surname, esq etc etc etc
yes I must be a loon
Ok, back on topic
we too have spelt the winkies names as they sound in the hope that people will be able to say it without too much heart ache... but that hasn't stoped people saying Jayden, or Mickala ( sorry I cant spell it correctllywhich I know will annoy most of you ) and with poor bubba girl nobody ever gets her name... I mostly introduce the winkies with there names and when I get that blank look I will say for now you can just call them Zay May and Kai... But once people get used to saying the winkies names it rolls of the touge as easily as Jane.... or at least I think they do...
Haha, my only 'test' is where I screech the name to see just HOW bad it will sound when I'm calling for them.![]()
I haven't read all the posts in this one yet, I will go back over them, but 'unusual' spelling is kind of a bugbear of mine. Purely because I have spent my entire life correcting and having to spell out my name for people, and it's not even that odd!! (It's two hyphenated names and the last one can be 'traditionally' spelled at least three different ways, so people always get stuck with it - I ended up dropping the second name as soon as I got to high school and became confident enough to tell teachers that the name printed on the roll was not the name I preferred to go by. Even my parents now refer to me as 'Donna' rather than 'Donna-Lee'.)
I love 'exotic' names, don't get me wrong - there are so many beautiful names out there and how boring would life be if we were all Toms, Janes and Sarahs? My annoyance is with a 'normal' name, taken and twisted and having letters added and taken away, until it barely resembles the original name. Mum and dad might think it's 'unique', 'individual' and will give their child a sense of originality, but speaking from experience, it just makes life bleeding difficult and becomes a burden.
That said, each to their own. I'm sure there are people out there who think 'Hayley Nicole' and 'Emily Paige' are boring and old-fashioned and would be better if I'd 'livened them up' by spelling them 'Heyleigh' and 'Emmie-Lea', but I just feel like it makes life a lot easier to have traditional spellings and if it saves them the misery and taunting I went through as a kid (and the constant irritation of having to correct important documents as an adult), then I'm happy.
My 'trick' to choosing baby names is to imagine it on an elderly person, a preschooler, and at the top of a resume from the perspective of a conservative (usually middle-aged male) employer. If it fits all three, it's a keeper. If not... back to the drawing board lol.
Last edited by Glamourcide; July 7th, 2009 at 06:17 PM.
I grew up in Scotland and am surrounded by Ruaridh's, Sionbhan's, Muireall's and Iain's. The vast majority of the Scottish population have zero knowledge of gaelic, only around 1% of us are fluent speakers who actually use the language. You get used to seeing the spellings though.
Most of those names were said for a LONG LONG time before they were written down. So really the spelling, even the oldest "traditional" spelling, is completely arbitrary - it's just what the first person to write the name down thought it should look like which is why there are variations between countries of origin even when the name sounds the same, and for all we know they could have been adding or omitting letters for the sake of fashion too.
I do sometimes think it's being taken a bit far, given, as BW said, the name sounds exactly the same spoken but if it makes people happy to give random spellings then that's fairly harmlss as craziness goes (remember little Aryan Nation?). I know a bryahn (brian), a meekaila (michaela), a sharlottah (charlotte - german pron.), a kaytea (katy). But then at least those ARE names. Does anyone remember the judge allowing a girl in America to change her name because her parents had called her, on her BIRTH certificate, "Tallulah-Does-The-Hula-In-Hawaii"?
DD's name is rare but traditionally spelled and very common amonst 80-year old women and still, no one can spell it. I think the world is so big now, people come into contact with so many variations on spellings that no-one even tries to think anymore, they just automatically ask "and how are you spelling that?"
Bx
oh THAT did my head in big time
heheheh so Vy is oging to be a pole dancer come stripper then
thanks babe needed to hear that
Because its a way to make your child unique, putting your stamp on them for life...that child is part of you and their name is one of the most important and most valuable thing you can give them bar life its self.
I hated my name as a child....my name was always misspronounced....its spelt
Maryan...and got Mary-Anne all my life..its actually pronounced Merry - en
It wasnt until my brothers headstone was layed down did I notice something very odd and questioned my parents about it. name was spelt Maryen not the usual way.
My dad wanted my name spelt MARYEN but somehow it had ended up MARYAN and it stayed. My dad has only realised that my name isnt spelt right (he has gotten a bit forgetful in old age) and isnt happy and to behonest, nor am I..... blame was pointed at my mum at first but we are now thinking that my name was changed by some 'well meaning nurse' in hospital who thought my name was actually promounced Mary-Anne...mum never changed it as she thought dad had wanted it that way and dad thought mum wanted it that was.
So a life time of missery and torment on over having my name spelt incorrectly by someone trying to fix what they thought was wrong.
And it still gnaw's at me......![]()
Last edited by maz; July 7th, 2009 at 06:53 PM.
I reckon change it Maz.Would be fun.
Bx, how ARE some of those first names pronounced? I only recently learned about Niamh, so I'm fascinated by it all.
That was me... my DD has the middle name Jayne spelt differently.. I was trying to find something that I thought was quite commonly mucked with, just as an example rather than being too specific
guess it didn't come off as I intended!
I was thinking more of spellings similar to the 'tryndeigh' example given earlier rather than single letter differences
No offense intended to anyone![]()
I ruddy HATE creative spellings. Adding in Ys and Zs and Xs to look "cool". Fair enough if it's a spelling from a country that you can call your own... but not just randomly! (I have a Welsh name and I AM NOT WELSH! It was also popular in the late 60s/early 70s so people are shocked at how young I look... I'm about a decade younger than my name, I don't just LOOK young, I AM young!) I do like Irish names but DH's Mum's parents were both Irish so we can just about get away with that - or could if DH liked them!
I hate having to constantly correct the pronounciation and the spelling. I hate having people think my last name has a Y in it because my first name does... NO. Yes, I can spell my last name... I can spell my first name too. Just you who thinks that comment is amusing.
Having said that, children with "normal" spelling suffer. Liebling gets two As in his name rather than A then E. His middle names get it too. I don't understand - we picked three very normal names! The first two names, when combined with the last name, are breweries. Why is there this problem? Because other parents made it a problem for us.
Don't they say Imogen originated from a misspelling? Guess those of us who use it are a bit screwed either way then![]()
Nelle -Rory, Shavaun (which i realised i typo'd when first typing it, lol), Muriel, Ian.Ruaridh's, Siobhan's, Muireall's and Iain's
I have to say, i totally disagree with that. I know 4 Olivia's and every one of them is an incredibly unique individual. Two of my very good friends have the same name, are utterly different and i NEVER get them mixed up in my head or otherwise. When i was at Uni i worked on a welcome desk and practically every man i met from the middle east had a name that was some variation on Mohammed, but they were all very different people. I think a sense of individuality goes way way beyond a name and that, although the name is the 2nd Very Important Parenting Job (after getting them earthside as healthy as possible) of a new parent, in the course of years it pales, as the birth does, in terms of importance. My mother gave me the most popular girls name of the time when i was born, because, she said, she felt it could fit in anywhere. On paper i could be a lawyer or a lapdancer. In person i am as unique as anyone else. As has been said by one more eloquent than me "what's in a name, a rose by any other name would smell as sweet". JMOBecause its a way to make your child unique, putting your stamp on them for life...that child is part of you and their name is one of the most important and most valuable thing you can give them bar life its self.
Bx
I have to disagree with Maz and Skye too - Liebling isn't the same as all the other people out there with his name and his spelling. He's HIMSELF.
I have an uncommon name but that just made me cross that my parents can't spell. It is fairly common in my family - Zaidie also originated from a spelling mistake, but a few women in my family have it now. As a child, you don't want to be different. You want to fit in. And teachers calling you "Crane" because they can't pronounce your first name properly isn't what I call fun and exciting.
As an adult you want to be different - but by then you realise that you're more than just a name, you're YOU. OK so some people do change their name, but more people change from odd name to normal name than from normal name to "no-one has a hope in hell of spelling this" name. A lot of people change "Jaymz" to "James" or "Seaufeighya" to "Sophia": they have the same name, but none of the spelling hassles. I do know a Jaymz but thankfully not a Seaufeighya.
They all sound the same on the playground... you're going to hear it more than you see it, so why do people want names to look different? I mean Jessica is going to be sound the same as Jessyka in the end. I don't get it.
Because its a way to make your child unique, putting your stamp on them for life...that child is part of you and their name is one of the most important and most valuable thing you can give them bar life its self.
I have to say, i totally disagree with that. I know 4 Olivia's and every one of them is an incredibly unique individual.
A name is not just something spoke. As some have stated in here, a name can represent generations of a family, a nationality, a passion.
A name can by no means represent an individual...saying that name out loud may sound the same even if spelt different, yet its the way its spelt that means the earth to the parents, a priceless gift etched into history.
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