yep, holding them down by there shoulders worked prety well with the boys! i found it easier to adapt nappy time to changing them while they were standing, less drama, just not sure how you would do that with terrys? have a friend who, if there at home, use to put there son in the laundry tub and clean poos up in there, just give him a quick bottom wash, worked for them, im not real keen on that method, but its a idea! DD is starting to want to flip and kick at nappy time, but she hates being wet or dirty so dosent kick up to much (hoping she stays that way!)