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    Default How long is this going to last? Please give me some hope!

    Miss J turns 2 this week. And we have hit the terrible 2's in a HUGE way. Attitude plus! Throwing herself around, kicking, screaming, hitting and throwing things when she doesn't get her own way, waking anywhere up to 6 times a night - and don't even get me started on the whole TT thing. I'm so tired. I KNOW this is all normal behaviour but seriously, I hope it doesn't go on too long. She spends more time on naughty chair than off it i think, not to mention all the toys i've taken away.
    Geez!


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    Hugs to you and your DH lol but i so know what your on about ... it is hideous at times.!
    I have DS 2 2months and he can really put on a performance but luckily theres no biting or kicking yet as god help him he would get put in the time out area for a long long time lol
    TT can i ask why now ? I didnt even start until my older son was nearly 2 1/2 to 2 3/4 yr old and then it worked!

    What do you do at night when she chucks wobblies?

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    Argh I'm hearing you. Since DD1 turned 2, omg she's horrible.. lol... soooo whingy, and she screams a lot now, and whinges more often, and hits her brother, pushes him, won't leave him alone - and yes - attitude plus!!! Arghhh... frustrating!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubno.3 View Post
    Hugs to you and your DH lol but i so know what your on about ... it is hideous at times.!
    I have DS 2 2months and he can really put on a performance but luckily theres no biting or kicking yet as god help him he would get put in the time out area for a long long time lol
    TT can i ask why now ? I didnt even start until my older son was nearly 2 1/2 to 2 3/4 yr old and then it worked!

    What do you do at night when she chucks wobblies?
    TT - she started it. She takes her nappy off when it's dry and wees everywhere and stands at the toilet door yelling wees at me. So I figured I'd just go with her lead.

    Night time - She keeps coming into our room so I just take her back and put her into her own bed, she screams for about 10mins and comes in again. I just persist with this routine until she gives in and goes back to sleep. Problem is that she is ALWAYS up and ready to go for the day between 5.30am and 6am and because she's been up so much during the night shes exhausted. I don't know how else to get her to sleep longer. She has one day sleep of anywhere between 2 and 3 hours but thats it.

    Any suggestions to change this are welcome

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    DD1 still wakes up at night too - and we just give her some milk and then she goes back to bed quite happily. Before we thought of giving her the milk, she would be up for 4 hours, whinging and crying and nothing we did stopped her and made her go back to sleep like the milk does.

    Maybe you could try that?

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    See again i didnt move my oldest son out of his cot to big bed til he was 3 yrs but he was in a portable cot with a nice mattress etc etc so he couldnt get out.
    If you dont want to place her back in a portable cot i would suggest a small gate for over her door entry from her room.... then if she wakes up she cant get out of the room .... and tell her that she is to sleep at night like mum and dad . If she chucks tantrums and she will (as our Ds does at 1am at times) go in tell him that you will come and tuck her back into bed when she is finished crying, if that fails leave her to sort it out. If the room is warm and she cant get out or hurt herself she will eventually fall asleep ! And you will know the different cry if she is seriously ill or needs a hug

    TT : mmm tricky one .... put two nappies on ... i dont know but again its a little girl trying to get her own way ...

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubno.3 View Post
    See again i didnt move my oldest son out of his cot to big bed til he was 3 yrs but he was in a portable cot with a nice mattress etc etc so he couldnt get out.
    If you dont want to place her back in a portable cot i would suggest a small gate for over her door entry from her room.... then if she wakes up she cant get out of the room .... and tell her that she is to sleep at night like mum and dad . If she chucks tantrums and she will (as our Ds does at 1am at times) go in tell him that you will come and tuck her back into bed when she is finished crying, if that fails leave her to sort it out. If the room is warm and she cant get out or hurt herself she will eventually fall asleep ! And you will know the different cry if she is seriously ill or needs a hug

    TT : mmm tricky one .... put two nappies on ... i dont know but again its a little girl trying to get her own way ...
    Yeah, that ^
    Nappy on backwards? or potty outside toilet door?

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    I hope you find a solution soon

    can you bring her into bed with you, or put a mattress on the floor of her room? 2 is a big separation anxiety time and it sounds like she needs you.

    Wrt bedtime I don't think your dd is manipulating you, just expressing a need, and the sooner you address the need, the sooner it should pass.

    As for the other tantrums, I think it's pretty normal. I encourage dd to take deep breaths which works well for us, but she's just shy of 2.

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    Sunshine, our pair of girls are very similar ages (DD1 is a bit older though - 2y 8mo, DD2 - 3mo) and I went through a very similar thing when DD2 hit 2 months. It was as if the jealousy of having a sister didn't hit straight away as we had 2 months of joy with DD1 very happy to have a little sister and being a delightful 2 year old then BAM! Overnight DD1 turned absolutely feral! It was as if her terrible twos, sister jealousy and a developmental milestone tantrum were all rolled up into one. I was floored as I had never had an ounce of trouble from DD1 before.

    Defiance, waking constantly at night and being disagreeable. It was really, really, really tough and I feel for you.

    I tackled the bad behaviour by treating DD1 with as much love, patience and time as I could muster (some days I had more than others admittedly) as I figured she was testing my boundaries and love for her now there was a new kid on the block. I also remained firm on non-negotiables and would take her to her quiet spot (pile of cushions in her room in a nook) when she was tantrumy eg refusing to go down stairs without being carried - something I could no longer do with a baby in my arms. She had to stay there till she was ready to listen to me and talk to me by telling me her story - ie me listening too (my version of the naughty chair, I hate using the term 'naughty') I never time it, just keep going in to see if she is ready to talk and I tell her its ok to cry/make noise if she feels she needs to, we just can't talk till she is calm. This took about 2-3 weeks to work and it was a hellish time. I didn't get anything done, the house was a mess and many times DD2 had to just make do or was pulled off the breast too early so I could deal with DD1. I'll admit that I wasn't always calm, but... it has worked. She is so much better now and if things get heated, I just ask her if she needs to go and have quiet time in her room and she usually listens to me properly on the spot now.

    With the constant night time wakings I figured that it was DD1s way of making sure that I still was there for her, DD would always yell for me and refuse comfort from DH. DD was waking 3-6 times a night and refusing to go back to sleep (She doesn't actually get out of her bed but will call and cry until we come in.) Some times she would be awake for 3 hours Again it was hellish and exhausting but I would go to her when she called and cuddle her if she wanted it. I would always explain to her that I am always here for her but she needed her sleep so she could have fun tomorrow and I also needed to get my sleep so was going back to bed. I would check she had all of her comforts, music on, teddies, blankie etc and then resettle her. If she kept calling, I kept going but warned her I couldn't keep cuddling her and would just come to the door to check on her. I would always try to remain calm (!). The bad nights were the ones which were bookended by DD2 waking and needing a feed. It is working though, the wakings are less frequent and I really believe it is because DD is getting better adjusted to the changes going on around her.

    Sounds like your smart little cookie is a bit like mine. Well aware of all of the changes and trying out different ways to make sense of her new situation. Hang in there and keep digging into that reserve of love . Make sure when your DH is around he takes both girls off your hands so your can recoup on loss of sleep.

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