Wow - that was quick Tootie and Iris..thanks so much.

I do wonder why it's still bothering me (I'm reminded eveytime I look at the very sticky out belly button he now has)....it's probably a need to get it off my chest for closure...but also maybe that she may have caused him pain without me there (and maybe cos she had reduced me to tears that day as well...they need to realise what being pumped full of natural AND synthetic hormones does to someone!!).

Thanks so much again... ;-)