I just wanted to come back and say a thank you for all your replies.

Sorry to say this ...but its comforting to know I'm not alone though.

But in saying that we've had a little bit of progress since I posted. For the last 2 nights DS2 has been sleeping from 7.30pm til 5 or 5.30am - that doesn't mean I got really good sleep though DS1 has been having restless sleeps instead ...ahh well...can't have my cake and eat it too I guess . But at least there is now hope that 1 day they both might sleep all the way through and I'll have a full 8 hour non broken sleep....something I haven't had for a very long time (as most of you wouldn't have either). But there is hope and that is all I need for now...and very strong coffee