Crying it out...is that what I am doing?

[Macca79]

Sorry to hear your little man is unwell Skye. I hope your able to get some sleep soon, I know how hard it can be when you can only get an hour here and there. for you and your little man.

[~clover~]

Thanks Macca. We're getting there. He woke for feeds last night, but slept all night.
He was easier to get down tonight too. So hopefully its finally getting better!
Glad things are better for you guys too.

[Ca Plane Pour Moi]

My take on it is if the baby is "talking" (ie the odd "waa" but not upset) then that's not crying it out. If the baby is crying and distressed than that's "controlled" crying.

With DS, we wait until he's crying rather than talking and if he still won't sleep and we get frustrated then we let him cry for a bit. He knows we go to him as soon as he needs us... but also that we're human and have enough! We leave him until we're calm (usually 2-5 mins) and then go back and he settles a little bit more quickly - but not enough so we're tempted to let him cry!

Sometimes he talks himself to sleep, sometimes he cries for ten seconds then sleeps, sometimes he wants us to hold his hand, sometimes he wants patting... I just wish that it was consistent and he'd do it all by himself every night!

[~clover~]

Thaks for clearing that up for me Rosehip.
I tried to work out the difference in another thread & it ended up turning into a big 'discussion' about control crying & weather or not its any good. I never actually got an answer.
I was told that cc was cc no matter how you look at it???

[Ca Plane Pour Moi]

I think it's controlled crying - if your baby isn't crying then how can it be controlled crying?

I hate letting DS cry but I know that it isn't controlled: either he isn't or I'm not, and if I'm patting him I need to be in full control. I'd rather let him cry for a minute or two (or just the fifteen seconds it takes to change parents) than beat him up for not sleeping.

[~clover~]

Yeah, well I've found that if I try to pat/rock/walk Jesse its harder to get him to sleep.
I fI lay him in the cot & go back & forth with the dummy at the end when I pick him up he will settle, but he needs that time in the cot first to let him know its time for bed iykwim. Otherwise he thinks its playtime & won't settle no matter how dark & quiet it is.
& if I'm in the room & he can see me it's harder too.

[Marlene]

Yeah, well I've found that if I try to pat/rock/walk Jesse its harder to get him to sleep.
If I lay him in the cot & go back & forth with the dummy at the end when I pick him up he will settle, but he needs that time in the cot first to let him know its time for bed iykwim. Otherwise he thinks its playtime & won't settle no matter how dark & quiet it is.
& if I'm in the room & he can see me it's harder too.

That's exactly like my little man, I really enjoyed rocking him and holding him till he went to sleep, but, now he flat out refuses. He squirms and twists until I put him in his hammock. Sometimes he will fall asleep as soon as I put him down or sometimes he will lay there and "talk" for a couple of minutes or grizzle untill I put his dummy back, but he always puts himself to sleep now. He has done this since about 10 weeks when I got the hammock. It's a godsend!! I do miss cuddling him to sleep though, so now at his early morning wakeup i feed him then have him snuggle and sleep in bed with me.

Macca, you are doing a wonderful job, and letting baby have a little grizzle is not controlled crying. Remember babies do get a little restless around 4 months as they usually have a little growth spurt.

[Rouge]

Actually bjrose that was my comment about CIO and I wasn't talking to you specifically. I was referring to another comment (not about whinging vs crying), if you wish to discuss anything with me feel free to talk to me anytime