Honestly...?
Your right that we are both making massive generalisations

I could use that logic with immunisations, that say any decreases in disease in recent decades are only because of better diagnosis and reporting as apposed to the estimations used before proper medical records were kept, but that's not convenient to your argument.
LOL, better reporting and records would seem to help my case! Im not sure what you mean?

1. They would need to be mobile. 2. I'd have their blood tested to check the state of their immune systems - if it was compromised I wouldn't vaccinate, but use avoidance methods instead. 3. If I went ahead I would make sure it was only a single vaccine (not a combo) and 4. I would be a diet nazi and make sure I was loading them with good bacteria, and good bacteria feeding foods.
I have no doubt your a fantastic parent,
but what about the rest of us very average parents who do what they can while living in our battery-hen existance?

I don't know a single person who could so judiciously manage their children's immune systems and I have serious doubts that a small minority of even well informed anti-vax parents could do what you do. They just don't immunise.


I think you're onto something there SAHD. IMO immunisation would come under the umbrella of distancing from nature, wouldn't you think? Nature would be letting the disease run it's natural course, although not a popular choice or easily accepted one.
I should have been more specific, the study was about children having unstructured play in unaltered green spaces, but I take your point.


also think that when it comes to Autism and ADHD that their causes are multi factual, with a high probability of immunisation being one of those factors in a lot of cases (as it is "distancing from nature"). It could well be because of one or more ingredients eg Thimerosal which I don't think is relevant in Australia as it's not in the MMR any more, but like Yeddi is trying to explain the way it alters the gut in general, which refers to all vaccines not just MMR.
I understand the need to move back to 'natural' things, good food, no medical interventions etc which is all admirable but our natural environment was destroyed 10,000 years ago with the coming of agriculture and we'll never get it back.