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i think you might find the reason that alot of "negative" information is out here is due to the fact that only "positive" info is coming from the doctors that do these immunisations
there is always 2 sides of the story which means that very few people are nuetral.
and research is always twisted to a particular way depending on the persons personal opinion
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just letting you know, Sydney now has an outbreak of Whooping cough. There is no way I wouldn't vaccinate my third as his two older sisters are at school/kindy. To me whooping cough is too scary (especially in under 1year old).
I have been a bit weary of vaccine's but am going to get them for DS. I avoided Hep B, dont think it's necessary, but will get the rest. A nurse told me yesterday that a positive of the chick pox vax is that you can't get shingles later if you've never had chicken pox. Shingles is chick pox lying dormant in your body after chick pox and is terrible. That was something I didnt know. I didnt immunise DD1 with it but she chose to have it at 8 years as she had decided she didnt' want to catch it!
As for Japan, I had that same thought, but the thing with Japan is (as my Kenisiologist pointed out) they aren't as multicultural as us, therefore we have more risk here.
I would definitely see if you can get the whooping cough vax. It's been around our school and is going around many others. xo
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you know i have really thought about this, and if the whooping cough vaccine was worth the risk then there wouldnt be any around, because it would have worked!
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Thats what I think too Kitten.... The rate is now higher, not lower.... same with many of the vacs, theres now more problems than before....
We were all vac as kids, and still got chicken pox, measles, mumps etc....
and I got chicken pox bad....
We didn't get Harmony vac after much talk with DH.... she is at such a low risk.... not worth the risk to us.... all the shots are together.. the whole lot except rotovirus... not impressed....
I'll review how we feel at the 4 month ones.....
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Just a thought, but as more people are doing their research and choosing not to immunise, do you think the whooping cough rates are higher because more people are not immunised?
Adults can carry the whooping cough virus without even knowing it. What we think is just a cough, could be whooping cough and we risk passing it on to our kids.
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Laranna, the studies showed a rapid increase in Whooping cough after the vac was bought out. And it is still rising!
And theoretically, if only 2% of the population aren't vac'ed, then 98% of people with whooping cough were vac'd anyway... so it cant work that well....I didn't see the point of putting all those chemicals in my daughter,... I just keep her away from anyone that is the slightest bit unwell...
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The reason why whooping cough is still around is that a lot of people don't realise that they are only immune for 10 years. 80% of babies who get whooping cough contract it from their mother. It would be great if you could protect your daughter by just keeping her away from anyone who is sick but in reality it's not the case. I am not trying to convince you either way as I agree that you need to make an informed decision, please just make sure that you obtain your information from true evidenced based articles - not scaremonger websites.
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Nope, I got all my information from proper clinical studies.
"It would be great if you could protect your daughter by just keeping her away from anyone who is sick but in reality it's not the case"
Actually, it is. To get whooping cough you need to be with someone who has it, for at least a couple of hours, and be coughing and spitting and so forth, which is why it is rife in child care and hospitals.. My baby doesn't go anywhere without being in my sling, and isn't in care. If any of her siblings were sick, I'd keep them away... many of unvac'ed kids never catch anything, because there parents are careful.. If infected people stayed away from everyone else, and didn't spread it, then it wouldn't be around. I find people and parents who still go to care, school and work while sick are much more responsible for spreading any diesese than an unvac'd person!!
JMO of course....theres not much chance of my unvac'ed daughter giving anyone anything...but the rest of the vac'd society?? well.....they are the 98% spreading it...
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I have to agree with PB here - with this "epidemic", stats that 98% are immunised - it just doesnt sit right.
ANd I would much rather my little bundle to not have nasty heavy metals injected into her beautiful little body!
google thimerserol.............
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The problem is though, that we might try and keep our kids away from infected people but it just doesn't happen. Eg, Dad goes off to work where his colleague shows up coughing and sneezing, passes it on to Dad. Dad comes home and passes it on to Mum and Mum passes it on to bub. PB, I agree that sick people should stay away from others, but they just don't and that sucks.
Like Hisista says, most adults are not immune to whooping cough and if they get it, they wouldn't even know for a couple of weeks, because it starts off with a runny nose which is the most infectious period.
I guess one has to weigh up whether the risk of immunising outweighs the risk of not immunising.
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