I don't know what to do

[Traveller]

I struggled with this decision too for my twins, after DS1 reacted badly to the routine vaccinations as per the schedule. In the end I waited until they (particularly boytwin who was frequently very ill as an infant) were healthy enough to tolerate the jabs, but didn't leave it so long that they would not be covered by the time they went to daycare. I started with the vaccinations that I was more concerned about not getting (specifically whooping cough and the MMR) and have not done any more so far. But I will get them all done, and before they start school, because they have tollerated the ones they have had so far.

It's not an easy decision, and I don't envy you it. I felt sick when they got their first jab, but they were absolutely fine which made the 2nd jab (months and months after the first) much easier.

[boomba]

Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe there is no Mercury in vax in Australia??? Or not in the ones given to kids? ETA I put up a link....
We vaxed DS1 on schedule but have delayed with DS2 he is 18mths soon and still has not had his 12mth ones.....He will get them just not yet and probably not all at once.

You can read about mercury or ThiomersalHere.

In the end hun its up to you and educating yourself is the best thing...although I find it hard to find articles and research that inst totally for one or the other. xxx

[LizLemon]

Someone correct me if I am wrong but I believe there is no Mercury in vax in Australia??? Or not in the ones given to kids? ETA I put up a link....

You beat me to it. Everything I have been able to find says that there is no longer any thimerosal in any kids vaccines - and hasn't been since... well a long time ago.

I agree, the vaccination decision is a scary one, and not one that most parents take lightly. I am relieved that DS is fully vaccinated so that when this bub comes soon there is far less chance of him bringing something home.

You have to do what you are comfortable with and unfortunately for every person that gives you a convincing argument one way there'll be another one the other way. Good luck with your decision.

[katey80]

I know you said you aren't worried about the autism thing, only about the mercury. Well, the mercury is what causes autism. There is a great book called 'Evidence of Harm' by DAvid Kirby which is about a group of american mothers whose children became autistic. They researched the matter themselves instead of relying on information that came from Doctors and scientists etc. who are paid by vaccine companies. Which if you look closely enough is the case with every article, medical journal etc. that supports vaccines.

The mothers research led them to an article on mercury poisoning and the description of symptoms which affected 'hatters'. (Hatters [back in the day] used to use mercury to keep hats flat. Thus the term 'mad as a hatter' came about). The symptoms of mercury poisoning were alarmingly similar to the symptoms of autism, in fact identical. Austism is mercury poisoning.
Some of these mothers tried a process called 'chelation' to help expel the mercury from their son's bodies, which I believe worked.

Mercury aside - the vaccines themselves, even WITHOUT mercury, are absolutely useless. Each vaccine consists of either a live or dead virus of the diease you are being vaccinated against. This doesn't help you avoid the disease, it occasionally even GIVES you the disease. There are also other adjuvants such as aluminum (another neurotoxin which is linked with Alzheimers) and formaldehyde (which is embalming fluid!) in the vaccine. So with these heavy metals, neurotoxins, live or dead viruses, plus monkey brain, kidney or balls, you can be assured that it does NOTHING BUT ABUSE your baby's natural immune system. By injecting this stuff into the bloodstream we completely bypass the bodies first line of defense - the skin! We are taught to believe that we are powerless against disease - but that is simply what the drug companies (PS - who make BILLIONS of dollars from vaccines) want you to believe so that you will become dependent on THEM to be safe. We are more powerful than we have been led to believe.

Our bodies are actually quite resilient when not pumped full of poisons. If I were you, I would go and find a family of unvaccinated children and ask their parents about their health. I have not vaccinated my son (who is 6 months now) and he has not been sick ONCE. Where are the 'colds' and 'ear infections' he was supposed to get?? Hmmm - maybe its because his poor little immune system wasn't completely attacked by toxic substances and was allowed to flourish and grow stronger with breast milk, fruit and veg.
And yes - basic good health, believe it or not, is all it takes to be able to fight disease efficiently. THe pharmaceutical companies however, would have us believe otherwise. Its good for us to be scared and feel weak - that way all our money goes to them! HOORAH!

There are also (and quite suspiciously) NO studies done comparing vaccinated with unvaccinated children. (!!!) WHY? The establishment's response - 'we find it unethical NOT to give the other group the vaccine. What the??? Suspicious much? LEt me think.....maybe because the results will undoubtedly show that unvaccinated children are superior in health, cognitive function and general well-being. This would indeed be bad for Pharmeceutical revenue. The Head of Pharmeceuticals would say - 'People cannot find out that they don't actually need this! We will be bankrupt within the month! Quick, quick - pay off some more people to write good things about vaccines. Oh and remember to trash the doctors and scientists who speak out against us. RUIN THEM! Quick dammit!'

Just a little humor to get my point across - hope it worked

I hope this information has been helpful in helping you decide what to do about vaccinating. I respect the right to choose.

With love - Katherine

[RhiChiChi]

I've just seen this bumped by the above post.... mo2b - what did you decide to do? (Note: I still haven't made a decision)

[Me+him+bub]

hope the choice has become a little easier for you xoxox being an RN and working with kids that have had autism and seeing children die from whooping cough and other child hood preventable diseases and even adults who are on deaths door because of chicken pox I would have to say I would rather have a lifetime with my son having autism then a few weeks of him suffering with an illness. (that is if the studies are true) If the autism thing is all your worried about I would have a long think. This is just my opinion and is most possibly swayed due to what I have seen in my profession. I've given children experimental and very strong medicines for preventative measures never knowing what the side effects will be but always with the intent to cure or to help, it is the risk parents choose and it is the same as vaccines. Whatever you decide you will find support on this website.

[*LittleMissSummer*]

My DD has had every vax so far, i always ask what she is getting and the side affects, what to look out for and how important they are to her. Her 12 month needles were great the doctor who did them told me EXACTLY what he was doing, where they were going why they go there what the vax helps prevent and he said in his 20yrs of being a doctor since these vax came out he had not encountered one of these horrible diseases, he has also said he has not had any child have any bad reactions either so that put my mind at ease. He was very sympathetic to DD when she cried when she got her bum jabbed by telling her he was sorry but one day would thank him

[RainbowBrite]

As far as I was aware they have removed the mercury and thermosil out of vaccines for infants and children (in 2000 I think) but there is still a small amount in some adult vaccines.
I vaxxed my fulltermers and late prems to schedule but my very early prems I have delayed vaxxed till at least corrected age or later.

ETA - Sorry to repeat Boomba I didn't see your post