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  1. #1
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    Apr 2010
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    I don't know what to do

    Okay so ds1 was vaxxed to schedule, I had some reservations but I honestly thought it was what had to be done so I did it and crossed my fingers each time. ds2 was also vaxxed to schedule until after his 6 month ones. I had this really bad feeling in my gut about the 12 month ones so I started to do some research into the whole thing. Anyway I was horrified by the research and ds2 still hasn't had his 12 month ones at 19 months.

    With dd I have ummed and ahhed, I don't want to vax her but yet I would never forgive myself if she caught a vpd and suffered a bad result from it. I declined her Hep B at birth and I had decided I would delay her vax schedule till after 1 or 2yrs old. And not get ds2 until he was 4.

    But my ds1 is starting Kindy next week so now I am worried that he might bring something home and spread it to ds2 and dd so I am wondering if I should vax them then and cross my fingers once more.

    I honestly can't separate which thought I hate more, pumping all the toxins into my babies blood stream or them catching something I may have been able to prevent.

    This vax stuff is so hard... how did you all reach the decisions you did.

  2. #2
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    Nov 2009
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    I would never forgive myself is DS caught something he could be immunised for . Children die in other countries everyday because they dont have access to vaccinations, so im my mind, I was preventing every possible thing I could in regard to diseases etc.

    Also I think the whole thing about immunisations causing autism ridiculous, isnt that what most people are worried about. ? I dont get the whole debate anyways

    Even chicken pox can be deadly so if the younger ones arent immunised and ds ended up being a carrier to it, yeah, id be worried too (also chicken pox, shingles in adults causes sterility) (for DH)

  3. #3
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    Apr 2010
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    Well I'm not worried so much about the autism thing exactly. I am more worried in whole about what the mercury in the vaxxes can do to my babies neurological system on the whole. So I guess I'm more concerned about the fact that they are full of thimesoral (mercury) aluminium and fermeldyhyde (a known cancergin) Not to mention that they are cultured in animal kidneys and cells and aborted human lung cultures. I guess I am having a hard time weighing up knowingly pumping known poisons into my baby's blood system vs catching the disease... both seem equally horrible to me. There should be a better way.

    I also don''t like the fact that the health professionals expect us to trust them but aren't honest in the information they give us. Stupid pamphlets about the vaccines that don't list the toxins that are in them. I think parents should be properly informed so they know what they are putting into their child.

  4. #4
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    Jul 2006
    Melbourne
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    I did vax my DD (she is nearly 4) but I am seriosuly contemplating not bothering with her 4 yo, particularly if she is ill. It is a really tough decision to my IMO, one I had no issues with prior to DD being born but something I certainly thought about after she was born and now. I have the same thoughts - what if she gets ill from a preventable illness but then on the flip side what if her asthma (mild) is caused from being vaxed?

    I am reading a book atm called 'Healing the New Childhood Epidemics - Autism, ADHD, Asthma and Allergies'. Some of the information I take on board some of it I dismiss, but I guess it makes you more aware of the affects vaxxing can have on tiny bodies.

    M2R - For alot of parents it isn't just about the autism debate. My gf swears her DS1 development was delayed / went backwards after his 3 month (?) injections and is also the possible cause of his allergies and other issues. She is choosing to vax her DS2 but on a delayed schedule - this was after reading the above book and also speaking to a mother whos son has high funtioning autism and her naturopath.

    FWIW I just got the flu injection (with the included H1N1). This is b/c people in my work caught the H1N1 virus last year or the year before and I work in an office and didn't want to risk being ill with it. In addition, I'd rather have the injection than my DD (I feel my body can cope with vaxes - I have no external side effects) and try to prevent her getting the flu or equivalent that way.

  5. #5
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    Jun 2007
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    This vax stuff is so hard... how did you all reach the decisions you did.
    Can I firstly say that I think vaccinating your children is a personal choice, so I'll neither sway my post for or against vac'ing in terms of what you should do.

    I am pro-vac. While I haven't researched extensively, I'm aware through online forums and the recent debates in the country that it carries a small chance of risk. OK - "small" is my thinking given my stance. I don't expect all will agree. I vac'd my kids because I didn't/don't want them to contract the illnesses these vac's were designed to protect against and/or spread them.

    I've no doubt vaccinations aren't fool-proof, I wouldn't be surprised if they were detrimental to some children. I wouldn't be surprised if - in years to come - there are confirmed links to cancer. By the same token, I also think that household chemicals, cosmetic sprays, preserved foods etc could also be equally as detriminental for some. I guess my point is that "nothing" - or "everything" - in our world today seems to carry some health risk. Hope that makes sense. But hey, if one of my kids (or a friend's child) had had a bad reaction to a vac, I'd most likely think very differently.

    And can I reiterate - this is my opinion only. It's not meant as a reason why anyone else should vac. I'm just answering the OP's question.

    Mumof2boys - good luck. You're decision won't be an easy one. Maybe the best way to tackle it is to think about what will keep you awake at night less, iykwim?

    ETA: Sheesh, re-reading this I sound defensive. Sorry, not my intention ... I guess I'm anticipating this could turn into a pro and anti vac debate, and not one I want to kick start

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    Mar 2010
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    I vacced because i have seen same of the diseases in action and i do not want my children to have to go through that. I am aware of the small chance of adverse effects and this is a risk i am prepared to take.

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  7. #7
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    Feb 2008
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    Do they even let you into Kinder now if there Vac's arnt up to date? I know DD's needed to be for day care.

  8. #8
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    Jan 2006
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    With DS we just followed the schedule. But I've thought more about it since. We also skipped the HepB at birth, and the rotavirus, but I've gotten the others and will continue more or less on schedule now. The reason is that DS is in daycare and so there's a greater risk to DD from him bringing something home. I also have some concerns about vax to be honest, but this is the best compromise I can make for us, as I am also concerned about DD catchign some of these diseases. (I also got my whooping cough vax done, btw).
    If neither child was going to daycare/kindy then I'd probably delay.
    It's just another parenting decision - you have to weigh up everything and decide what's best for your kids.

  9. #9
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    Feb 2005
    Sydney
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    My girls have had their vaccines but not to schedule after 12 month ones. Even if you have the vaccine remember they can still get the virus, just not as bad. My DD1 got chicken pox at 2 1/2 at daycare (after having the vaccine at 19 months) and gave it to DD2 who was only 6 months old.

  10. #10
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    Nov 2009
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    I struggled with this decision too for my twins, after DS1 reacted badly to the routine vaccinations as per the schedule. In the end I waited until they (particularly boytwin who was frequently very ill as an infant) were healthy enough to tolerate the jabs, but didn't leave it so long that they would not be covered by the time they went to daycare. I started with the vaccinations that I was more concerned about not getting (specifically whooping cough and the MMR) and have not done any more so far. But I will get them all done, and before they start school, because they have tollerated the ones they have had so far.

    It's not an easy decision, and I don't envy you it. I felt sick when they got their first jab, but they were absolutely fine which made the 2nd jab (months and months after the first) much easier.

  11. #11
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    Jan 2009
    pakenham, victoria
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    No mummamia they dont