Whooping Cough vaccine may need to change due to mutations

[BellyBelly]

Funny, everyone is so quick to blame the non-vacc'ers but now, oh yeah mutations could cause that too.

[Little Chicken]

The whole cell was phased out due to the number of side effects, one of the reasons they bought in the acellular. They may have to go back to the old one then.

[Cherished]

hi Kelly, let me know if I should start another thread with this question rather than hi-jacking yours dh and I don't want to give bubs any vaccinations but have recently been talking about Whooping Cough. I've been wondering if people can be carriers without knowing it, as in they aren't actually sick but can still pass on whooping cough to babies? Some people have suggested that we ask the grand parents to get a booster shot before seeing bubs but I don't feel 100% congruent with that because I am not a vaccination fan and would not like to be asked to get one myself... Some of the grandparents wont mind but there are 2 who I don't think would get a shot even if we asked (it's against their model of the world as it is ours) )and then they would be pretty unhappy not being able to see bubs for a month or so as we would want to give the little ones immune system some time to develop before getting passed around to everyone for a snuggle. So if whooping cough can't be passed on unless someone is actually sick with whooping cough than I wouldn't be so worried, I mean I know it's out there but I have personally never come across someone who either has or has had it so I may not even bother asking anyone to get a booster. I hope all that makes sense.

[Little Chicken]

A lot of adults don't know they have it because it manifests more like a cold with a bad cough in them. It is usually only babies and small children that get the characteristic whoop cough. To be safe I would say anyone who has a cough or cold shouldn't go near bub.

[Cherished]

hmmm thanks muminalice, that doesn't really answer my question though can someone be a carrier without having symptoms (even a cold)? I wish I could think of an example but my brain is mush lol. But there are heaps of diseases out there where people can give it to someone without getting it themselves kwim?

[RhiChiChi]

hmmm thanks muminalice, that doesn't really answer my question though can someone be a carrier without having symptoms (even a cold)? I wish I could think of an example but my brain is mush lol. But there are heaps of diseases out there where people can give it to someone without getting it themselves kwim?

Hun, I don't know for sure BUT my gf was immunised against Rubella and when she was pg with her DS she was a CARRIER but not affected by it nor was her son. (she had the rash etc...) So, I would say that it is a high potential that you could be a carrier but not present with symptoms or present with lesser ones (cough but not whoop cough) like muminalice said.

[skybie]

hun majority of bubbies get whopping cough from their parents. if u dnt want bub to have the vaccine then perhaps look into getting u and DH done, im pretty sure its still free.

lol i love how non vaccers are to blame for the increase in whooping cough cases....really??!! hmmmm