Another bad statistic case for homebirth :(

[harleysgirl]

Well mum just came to visit and told me a sad story from her work yesterday that she witnessed

A lady tried to free birth at hom to twins, first ws breech and she only had a chiro there to help.

long story short she ended up in emergancy with first bub not with us any more and sencond bub born on an ambulance bed in the emergancy department.

RIP little princess

unfortunetly this is getting investigated by police and they are considering neglect charges and chiro for something else. This is another sad case that will go against homebirthing

[fourthontheway]

Yes it is. There is a difference between home birthing and free birthing, but a women's right to choose must always be held true.

If women were having their needs met in hospital then I suspect there would be a lot less free birthing. I'm not opposed to freebirth at all, but I think many women are forced into it as their only option and they would prefer to have other options.

May this family find peace one day, and I hope they know they're not alone in their grief.

[Nelle]

That's awful. I'll another who'll say that homebirth and freebirth are very different things.

[Floweryfields]

A chiropractor?

[Traveller]

I know a chiro who offers doula services (although only in collaboration with a midwife) so it's not so strange.

However if the chiro was acting in the capacity of a midwife that is very wrong, she was way overstepping her expertise.

How sad that this freebirth went so wrong. Please let this story reach the ears of Nicola Roxon et al, this will happen again and again if they let doctors veto who is allowed a homebirth. Women will continue to birth at home and if high risk women are unsupported in homebirth they are more likely to face disaster.

[1MOREPLZ]

how very sad...RIP baby girl

[lauren22]

R.I.P little angel x
It breaks my heart she was taken so small and so suddenly
I think mum shouldn't be blamed at all she tried to do the best thing for her babies its that chiro that i'm fuming at but ill be keeping my thoughts to myself.

[BellyBelly]

I'd assume the chiro would be there for alignment issues... ease of birth.

[CinderToriella]

Very sad..

I dont know much about what 'free' birth is ?

[Oorki Galoorki]

why would you blame a chiro for the babies death??
come on people it isnt a blame game.
this women would be greiving the death of her baby, i highly doubt she is blaming any one(although she may be dealing with her own feelings in regards to this)

what ****s me it that only homebirth mummas get put through the trauma of having the police come and storm in to their precious space with a baby who has passed.

[harleysgirl]

I completley agree, homebirthing and free birthing is very different but unfortunetly its seen as the same with alot of people! my mum called it home birth! i had to then educate her on it so she can tell everyone at the hospital that assumed it to be a homebirth going wrong.

I feel for the poor mother as i can imagin she was just trying to achive a homebirth but knew having twins that it would be hard to achive that with the local OB's.

And yep chiro work is very common for labour as they can help with bad pelvis to achive the best position for mum and baby BUT this person was def over stepping theri boundrys if they were acting as help.

Unfortunetly if they keep up with this crap about homebirths then this will be a common scene in hospitals

luckly for twin number 2 she was helped out by alot of caring peads that were on the emergancy ward that night and shes now safe. mum said there was alot of blood so i would say something has gone really wrong, i hope the mum is ok. She was 39wks so the girls were a good size.

Mums back at work tonight so shes going to check up on mum and bub for me, shes also tracking down someone that can help the family with their little angel.

Thank you for being support with this post i was scared that it would make it look like i didnt care about mum and bub just statistics. i just hate the negative that will come out of this

[lauren22]

I wasnt really saying the chiro was the cause of the babies death at all. I really think they shouldnt be doing a midwifes job is all.

[harleysgirl]

Very sad..

I dont know much about what 'free' birth is ?

"Freebirth" is done at home all by yourself, no midwife etc

why would you blame a chiro for the babies death??
come on people it isnt a blame game.
this women would be greiving the death of her baby, i highly doubt she is blaming any one(although she may be dealing with her own feelings in regards to this)

what ****s me it that only homebirth mummas get put through the trauma of having the police come and storm in to their precious space with a baby who has passed.

I dont blame the chiro at all but unfortunetly the police will see them as someone who could have prevented this death by taking the mum to hospital. its crazy!! this poor chiro is going to suffer for trying to help someone.

Dont get me wrong i think its silly as a professional to support a free birth as its just too risky "Professional" wise. but not sure what will happen if they prove this chiro was there as a friend not as a "professional"

[CinderToriella]

Thanks Harleys

[Traveller]

There is a huge difference between a chiro acting as a chiro and doula, supporting a woman who would otherwise be unsupported, and a chiro acting as a midwife suggesting to a mother that birth is always without complication and that she can handle it on her own. One is commendable and the other is a gross overstep of the mark.

The problem is that more and more women will be in the situation where they put their trust in unqualified lay midwives if the legislation goes through.

So so sad that this little baby died though, and it is far to early to place blame.

[harleysgirl]

well said.

My very first thought when the homebirth law started happening was that its only going to make women choose freebirths or like you said trust in someone thats not trustworthy

[Oorki Galoorki]

I thing to remember is the hB community in Aus is VERY small.. you never know who you are talking to about others. and considering there are LOTS of details coming from some one that works at the hospital it is a breach of many rules/laws..

[blessedatlast]

I am really sorry for the poor Mama who lost her baby. That is very sad.

As for the blame game, I think any Mama who lost her bub (or even has a living bub!) has guilt.. And maybe want someone to blame.. As it was mentioned before though was the chiro there as a friend?doula? or maybe a chiro, but taking a bit too much on for the 'scope of practice?' Either way, I couldn't read this and not comment.. I agree that if this legislation passes more women will opt to free birth as they may feel they wont be able to homebirth with support. I think this is where the problem lies.. Bottom line is: If women have the choice to homebirth it can and would be done safely.. I am not saying that free birthing can't be done safely, it's just that sometimes there needs to be an objective opinion to guide you and sometimes help, sometimes that person is not yourself, but a person trained to deal with situations similar.( I know that women are often aware of their own body and limitations etc, but emotion and pain can blur the vision..)