Forgot to add, I have just been reminded that something like 70% of babies don't engage until labour (including first time babes) - I have a client who has this same issue at this very moment Exactly the same as in post-dates and babe not engaged. She's doing OFP stuff at the moment and having acupuncture later. Fingers crossed for her, she's going to a birth centre and doesn't want to have to leave.