Sangie, so true about the clocks. I never knew how long I'd been labour for until it was over. I knew it had been a while cos it had gotten dark outside but that was it. I specifically didn't ask how long I'd been there for or what time it was. I knew it would just distract me from the job at hand. If there are all these negative stories, why do they regularly do the IE then? Apart from when there's something possibly wrong obviously.....