"Enjoy your Labor" by Gilbert Grant is GREAT!

[fatmama]

LOL *he* doesn't need the promotion, he doesn't get paid any more as stated.
If women are so anti-epidural they won't read the book and they won't have one. If they are only not having one because they are scared off then they may read it and be reassured. So actually, I did exactly what I wanted to do. I was never trying to convince those soooooo against it they can't see the other side.

Once again, respect goes both ways. My original very respectful post was shown none. Interesting.

[Rouge]

Calling people liars is hardly respectful... And yes it is interesting that you see it the way you do

[suse]

Once again, respect goes both ways. My original very respectful post was shown none.

Fatmama, it cannot be said much more plainly that your original post was not written in a way that was respectful (whether you intended it to be disrespectful or not). Without exception, you have accused those who advocate for or choose natural birth of spreading lies and deceit, and by referring to the risks of an epidural as mumbo jumbo and propaganda you suggest that those who choose not to have an epidural for whatever reason are credulous and incapable of reasoned decision making.

I do question the assertion that Dr Gilbert gains nothing from writing this book or does not benefit from the promotion of it - my credulity does not stretch to think that he did not receive payment for writing it and will continue to receive royalties or other benefits from its sales.

[Toomanytoomany]

I'm puzzled as to why you think people here are "anti-epidural". I don't want one because I've never needed one. I enjoy drug free labour just fine. I'm not going to buy a book I don't need about a procedure I will in all likelihood never use. I'm happy to read the research (independently of Dr Grant's interpretation) should you care to cite it.

But then I'm a liar who spreads deceit and propaganda, so what would I know, right?

[2CheekyMonkeys]

i think this is just going to go on and on if we all keep responding.

[Toomanytoomany]

i think this is just going to go on and on if we all keep responding.

You're probably right.