I had a c/s the first time and they weren't as bad as the second. But that could have been because I was doped up after a c/s who knows.

Did anyone else feel completely ripped off? I felt totally jibbed because I'd done all the hard work, got my vbac and then it hurt MORE. What sorcery is this?!

My mother had warned me that for her and all the women in our family afterbirth was more painful than the birth. I thought she meant birthing the placenta. No. She meant after that. And ouch.